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john m

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our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« on: July 03, 2020, 11:41:49 am »
Excess deaths in Ireland from March to June were "substantially" less than the officially reported Covid-19 figures, analysis from the Health Information and Quality Authority has found.

HIQA says this could be due to the inclusion within official figures of people who were infected with coronavirus but whose cause of death may have been predominantly due to other factors.

Excess deaths refers to the number of deaths over and above what would normally be expected for that time of year.

The analysis assessed the number of deaths that occurred in Ireland from 11 March to 16 June relative to the expected number of deaths, using data from the death notices website RIP.ie.

It found that while there were 1,200 more deaths during that period, this is less than the 1,709 people recorded as having died from coronavirus during those months.

HIQA's Chief Scientist, Dr Conor Teljeur, said: "Based on an analysis of the death notices reported on RIP.ie since 2010, there is clear evidence of excess deaths occurring since the first reported death due to Covid-19 in Ireland.

"There were about 1,100 to 1,200 more deaths than we would expect based on historical patterns; a 13% increase between 11 March to 16 June. However, the number of excess deaths is substantially less than the reported 1,709 Covid-19-related deaths over the same period."

HIQA found that the officially-reported Covid-19 deaths likely overestimates the true burden of excess deaths caused by the virus.

This could be due to the inclusion within official figures of people who were infected with SARS-CoV-2 (coronavirus) at the time of death, whose cause of death may have been predominantly due to other factors.

"Excess deaths peaked by 33% over a six-week period from 25 March 2020 to 5 May 2020", Dr Teljeur said.

"During this period, there was an increase of 1,200 deaths from expected figures, with 1,332 Covid-19-related deaths officially reported."

Dr Teljeur said that in the last four weeks of the analysis, they saw a reversal of that trend, with fewer deaths than expected.

However, he said that changes to healthcare delivery – like suspending elective activity in public acute hospitals – might have a lasting impact on health outcomes that could take years to be seen.


john m

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Re: our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2020, 11:44:12 am »
"There were about 1,100 to 1,200 more deaths than we would expect based on historical patterns; a 13% increase between 11 March to 16 June. However, the number of excess deaths is substantially less than the reported 1,709 Covid-19-related deaths over the same period."

HIQA found that the officially-reported Covid-19 deaths likely overestimates the true burden of excess deaths caused by the virus.

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Re: our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2020, 11:49:01 am »
I guess the measures taken to prevent the virus spreading has also prevented the spread of the Flu virus, so one of the biggest killers in the country has been slowed, fantastic news! well done John you're playing a blinder this morning, not your usual doom and gloom shite

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Re: our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2020, 12:05:50 pm »
But missing the point,that one death is too many.

The issue with Covid is that is is extremely contagious,more so than the flu.

It is also far more severe IF you happen to get it and there is more evidence that (if you survive it) your kidneys and lungs will have permanent damage.

The main concern will be come the winter we will have the flu making a reappearance on top of Covid19.

So you think no screen and no mask are the way to go ?

Think again.

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Re: our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2020, 01:49:02 pm »
But missing the point,that one death is too many.

The issue with Covid is that is is extremely contagious,more so than the flu.

It is also far more severe IF you happen to get it and there is more evidence that (if you survive it) your kidneys and lungs will have permanent damage.

The main concern will be come the winter we will have the flu making a reappearance on top of Covid19.

So you think no screen and no mask are the way to go ?

Think again.
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john m

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Re: our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2020, 03:51:40 pm »
But missing the point,that one death is too many.

The issue with Covid is that is is extremely contagious,more so than the flu.

It is also far more severe IF you happen to get it and there is more evidence that (if you survive it) your kidneys and lungs will have permanent damage.

The main concern will be come the winter we will have the flu making a reappearance on top of Covid19.

So you think no screen and no mask are the way to go ?

Think again.
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THE MORE YOU FEAR THE MORE YOU ACCEPT

john m

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Re: our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2020, 04:00:27 pm »
I ll crystal ball this for you the need for people coming into Ireland the UK to isolate for 14 days will be removed next week .Why do I say this .All of Aiden O Briens stable jockies are riding tomorrow in England .Hw wouldnt leave himself without jockies like that so they must of been pre warned .

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Re: our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2020, 05:29:21 pm »
With FF back in power John....it'll be a wink and a nod!!

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Re: our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2020, 11:52:48 pm »
Something like 20% of case related to travel at the moment , watch the figure rising !
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Re: our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2020, 12:10:21 am »
But missing the point,that one death is too many.

The issue with Covid is that is is extremely contagious,more so than the flu.

It is also far more severe IF you happen to get it and there is more evidence that (if you survive it) your kidneys and lungs will have permanent damage.

The main concern will be come the winter we will have the flu making a reappearance on top of Covid19.

So you think no screen and no mask are the way to go ?

Think again.
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THE MORE YOU FEAR THE MORE YOU ACCEPT
Your agoraphobia will prevent you from getting another illness. 8)

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Re: our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2020, 10:45:36 am »
Cant wait for the summer weather to come...I need to get my rose tinted glasses back on...All will b fine then....Eamon
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Re: our Doc said its all a load of bollox
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2020, 11:55:50 am »
I ll crystal ball this for you the need for people coming into Ireland the UK to isolate for 14 days will be removed next week .Why do I say this .All of Aiden O Briens stable jockies are riding tomorrow in England .Hw wouldnt leave himself without jockies like that so they must of been pre warned .
I have two crystal balls  and my other one says  that we will be back in the prison state by late september  (as was planned in Jan/Feb) All Psychopaths know that there is nothing that makes a Virus on the telly more deadlier and more  contagerous than the sight of people out living their lives and not in fear or under total control. Of course we can blame and shame those people for the surprise "Second Wave" thus increasing mistrust and fear and controll.
Multi-Billionaire Philantropist  Bill Gates to the rescue!!  Simples.
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