Madness v Madness

[silverbullet]

It's the duty free that has the 200 limit so,I never knew that.

I haven't done that lark in about 20 years, but back then the Spanish tobacco shops were actually cheaper than duty free. Most important to keep your receipts to prove duty paid.

I thought about a day trip to Bulgaria a few years ago, which sells 20 cigs at a Tenner less per pack than ROI, and as it is in the EU it is all legal, I would defo bring a suitcase if doing that round trip.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/415034/cigarette-prices-across-europe/

The baltic states, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia attract a lot of attention from Customs. Just check out how many are caught regularly on the Tax defaulter's pages.

[Rat Catcher]

I'm not smuggling, merely exercising my rights as an EU citizen so I've no qualms whatsoever. I could, for a little extra, buy any amount from any number of Eastern European vendors on the streets of Dublin but I won't because that would be illegal and they never have my brand!

Ah sure you could have got some nice single malts @ ten litres a go.

The following quantities are generally considered as being for personal use for individuals travelling within the EU:

800 cigarettes
400 cigarillos
200 cigars
1kg smoking tobacco
10 litres of spirits (whiskey, gin, vodka and so on)

Further explained on https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel-and-recreation/travel-to-ireland/customs-regulations-for-travellers/ as follows:

Excise duties and VAT on goods

The sale of duty-free goods to those travelling within the EU was abolished in 1999. This means that you cannot buy goods that are free of excise duty and VAT if you are travelling within the EU. Any goods you buy within the EU ( except for food, drink, and tobacco products for on-board consumption) are subject to normal rates of excise duty and VAT. Duty-free sales are available if you are travelling to destinations outside the EU.
Goods bought in another EU country

You will not be charged any extra duty or VAT on purchases where the duty and VAT has been paid (for example, goods bought in shops and supermarkets) in another EU country, provided the goods are for your personal use.

If your purchases are within the limits set out below, they will usually be regarded as being for your personal use. If you exceed these quantities, you may have to demonstrate that the goods are for your personal use.
Alcohol and tobacco allowances for travellers to Ireland from EU

Goods
   

Maximum quantity
Cigarettes    800
Cigarillos    400
Cigars    200
Smoking tobacco    1 kg
Spirits (for example whiskey, vodka and gin)    10 litres
Other alcohol that contain 22% alcohol or less (for example sherry or port)    20 litres
Wine (of which only 60 litres can be sparkling )    90 litres
Beer    110 litres

You are not entitled to alcohol or tobacco allowances if you are under 17 years old.

You should keep any receipts as proof that you have paid duty and VAT.

[Rat Catcher]

It's the duty free that has the 200 limit so,I never knew that.

I haven't done that lark in about 20 years, but back then the Spanish tobacco shops were actually cheaper than duty free. Most important to keep your receipts to prove duty paid.

I thought about a day trip to Bulgaria a few years ago, which sells 20 cigs at a Tenner less per pack than ROI, and as it is in the EU it is all legal, I would defo bring a suitcase if doing that round trip.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/415034/cigarette-prices-across-europe/

Hasn't changed a lot, to be honest, Ken. In the Barcelona Airport Duty Free shop the duty free price is exactly the same as the duty paid price in tobacconists. The duty paid price in the airport is inflated hence higher than tobacconists.

The saving in Spain isn't far off €10/packet. My brand is €4,95/pack there and €14.xx/pack here. You could possibly save a bit more going to Poland but you'd probably have to compromise on brand. I did get a Polish driving student of mine to ring a couple of tobacconists for me over there and he was told my brand would be €4.80/pack as it'd be a special order. The beauty of Barcelona (for me) is that it's a viable day trip. Polish airports are less well served so you'd have to fancy a weekend away in reality to go that route.... which I may well do in the Summer when fares to Barcelona are significantly higher.

[Rat Catcher]

Another interesting one on so-called Duty Free, Ken is the prices charged at Irish and UK airports.... over €6/pack... i.e. what they are alleging is duty free is higher than duty paid in Spain... and I've been told it's actually higher again on the ferry... go figure. I still tend to avail of my allowance on the odd occasion I go to the mainland though. If you're going to a show "up west", for example, you can convince yourself that the saving paid for the tickets... comparing to ROI retail prices, of course!

[silverbullet]

Another interesting one on so-called Duty Free, Ken is the prices charged at Irish and UK airports.... over €6/pack... i.e. what they are alleging is duty free is higher than duty paid in Spain... and I've been told it's actually higher again on the ferry... go figure. I still tend to avail of my allowance on the odd occasion I go to the mainland though. If you're going to a show "up west", for example, you can convince yourself that the saving paid for the tickets... comparing to ROI retail prices, of course!

Likewise, I bought two bottles of single malt at the Scottish distillery, only to find the duty-free price at Edinburgh airport was £15.00 lower!

[Belker]

I'm guessing that if you bought DUTY FREE then you are on the duty free limit ??
But if you buy from a tobaconist then you can bring all you want fer personal use ??

If I ever was to try that lark again then it would be to Bulgaria or Poland as the cheapest to buy cigs in the EU and on a one day return trip. Bulgaria is a long 4 hour flight so Poland is more realistic at a 2.5 hour flight.
I have been to Gdansk in Poland before, lovely place, couldn't fault it, especially the Old Town. Seemingly they found or made Ginger ?? Anyway all the local traders sell them on the street stalls, I still have my Ginger stone from my last visit in 2009.

[Belker]

...... I did get a Polish driving student of mine .......

I had a nice Polish/Irish lass who loved her Mama who lived in Poland and her Mama loved her and they would visit each other every month or so and they both always brought me back duty free cigs. The deal was whatever she paid fer the cigs I would double the price, and by that I would save 50% on the cost in ROI. But she returned home to her Mama a few years back and I have not found a replacement as of yet.

[silverbullet]

I'm guessing that if you bought DUTY FREE then you are on the duty free limit ??
But if you buy from a tobaconist then you can bring all you want fer personal use ??

If I ever was to try that lark again then it would be to Bulgaria or Poland as the cheapest to buy cigs in the EU and on a one day return trip. Bulgaria is a long 4 hour flight so Poland is more realistic at a 2.5 hour flight.
I have been to Gdansk in Poland before, lovely place, couldn't fault it, especially the Old Town. Seemingly they found or made Ginger ?? Anyway all the local traders sell them on the street stalls, I still have my Ginger stone from my last visit in 2009.

Are you sure that's not Amber?
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/amber

[Rat Catcher]

I'm guessing that if you bought DUTY FREE then you are on the duty free limit ??
But if you buy from a tobaconist then you can bring all you want fer personal use ??

Correct, within the EU.

SBs case is more interesting as he would be subject to the Duty Free Limit on his duty paid whisky as duty was paid outside of the EU.

[Belker]

I'm guessing that if you bought DUTY FREE then you are on the duty free limit ??
But if you buy from a tobaconist then you can bring all you want fer personal use ??

If I ever was to try that lark again then it would be to Bulgaria or Poland as the cheapest to buy cigs in the EU and on a one day return trip. Bulgaria is a long 4 hour flight so Poland is more realistic at a 2.5 hour flight.
I have been to Gdansk in Poland before, lovely place, couldn't fault it, especially the Old Town. Seemingly they found or made Ginger ?? Anyway all the local traders sell them on the street stalls, I still have my Ginger stone from my last visit in 2009.

Are you sure that's not Amber?
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/amber

Your spot on there SB, the old memory ain't what it used to be !   

[John m]

Its too early in the day to be reading this.

Its never too Early .Oil price is dropping they need to sink a few oil tankers to get the price back up .Houties only acting the bollox no ships sunk yet .They must be useless or brilliant you decide .The first Ship to be sank will be an Oil tanker .Add a dollar a share to Shell Shareprice and $20 a barrell on to fuel .

Thats the only thing an American President can really do is Choose who he wants to fight with .

If I was betting the US Presidency

Trump 4/5
Haley 6/1
Biden 6/1
Hillary 20/1
Obama Mrs 33/1
Donny T jr if the Da gets shot 33/1
Boss Hogg from the Dukes of Hazard 1000/1
 If it looks like Trump will win Russia will wait before attacking Ukraine for real .If it looks like Trump will win China could invade Taiwan after the elections there this year .

Coola I was talking to the girl in the Chemist says they cannot get about 40% of medicines as the raw ingredient's for a lot of stuff came from China ,Ukraine and Russia and Israel and trade embargos and Wars mean ingrediants are not available to the manufacturers .

DeSantas has just withdrawn but I never quoted him anyway .

New Betting 2/5 Donny T
Biden 3/1
Hillary 20/1
Mrs Obama 50/1
Jesus of Nasareth 1/1 with a run .

[Belker]

Donny still 2.22 on Betfair, you can lay Sleepy Joe at 2.96.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/en/politics-betting-2378961

[John m]

Donny still 2.22 on Betfair, you can lay Sleepy Joe at 2.96.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/en/politics-betting-2378961

It could all be over for the Republicans this week Haley will fuck off as well .The Big Double could be on .CIA take him out blame the Iranians .Biden bombs Iran wins re election .Nothing would surprize me .

[Belker]

Donny still 2.22 on Betfair, you can lay Sleepy Joe at 2.96.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/en/politics-betting-2378961

It could all be over for the Republicans this week Haley will fuck off as well .The Big Double could be on .CIA take him out blame the Iranians .Biden bombs Iran wins re election .Nothing would surprize me .

Keep it Real John m !

[John m]

Dont rule anything out anymore .When was the last time you saw a two horse book both odds against ?Market thinks at least one of them wont make the starting Stalls ?