Toyota DPF problems

[John m]

The basic history of the car, after taking educated DPF advice from Taxi friends, my local mechanic that I trust and just about everyone else.

Bought the car in July 2020 with a 12 month warranty.

DPF light came on 13 months later in August 2021, I didn't know what a DPF was back then !!

Tried a few various cleaning agents and motorway driving which always cleared it fer 3 months.

My local mechanic told me Toyota were the only ones able to solve the problem and booked me in with a mate of his in Toyota to diagnose the problem, they wanted €2.5k to replace it in the summer of 2022.

I decided to get it cleaned by JD motors who specialized in DPF cleans and my local mechanic agreed it was a good idea.

Paid JD €600 fer the DPF clean and thought that was the end of it in Aug 2022.

3 months later and the DPF light is back on again, contacted my local mechanic and JD motors and it was agreed that it must be a turbo problem, so paid JD another €1450 to fix that and replace some Fookin flywheel thing.

The day I was supposed to be collecting the car from JD motors in January 2023 at 1pm I was told the car was still being worked on and would not be ready till 3pm. Which was a Lie when I went up to collect it at 3pm the car was in their carpark still completly frozen over from the night before ??

Through 2023 the DPF light came and went and I took the advice of many Witch Doctors and added Dipetane and all other sorts and drove it at various speeds on motorways, they all worked fer a small amount of time but the DPF light always came back on.

I eventually 'Bit the Bullet' and booked it in to Toyota to have the Fookin DPF replaced in early December 2023, they baulked and insisted on trying something which cost me €300 and a half tank of fuel, but the DPF light was off.
Two weeks later it was back on and now Toyota wanted €4.4k to replace the DPF fully, I eventually, reluctantly agreed, a day later they found some other Fookin problem and needed another €300 to fix that, which I again paid.

Eventually got the car back mid December, now over €7k out of pocket and the Fookin DPF light comes back on last week just 3 months later !!

This Cunt must be related to Satins Wheelbarrow .My bought new OCCI a total piece of shit .Never passed the Emissions first time .The 2008 Occi engine was remapped because of the emissions changes in the EU .A fucking disaster to own .

[Rat Catcher]

Get rid of Diesel .Eamo wants 30KMh zones .Diesel wont regenerate at that low speed .Hybrid or EV is the future for taxi business .

VAGs will regenerate at any speed. You'll notice the start-stop doesn't operate and idle revs increase while it's doing it's thing.

[Rat Catcher]

A basic OBDII reader would probably have told you (or led you to research allowing you to conclude) that changing the 3Arena sensor was the logical next step, Ken. Have you googled the price of the sensor? Being a VAG owner I've never replaced one but I think it just screws into the exhaust.... a simple enough job with the right spanner!

[Cool Boola]

I thought my Avensis was scrapped but it turned up in Newry and was locked doing 110 miles per hour on the motorway. Effin thing had a mind of its own and would only start,when it felt like it. Deamon car….it was!

[John m]

Rodent you have your well appointed seaside multistory close to the Motorway to exercise your engine every day .I was sitting on the stairs down the flats pondering this Emissions thing and trying to pick the Grand national winner for Saturday .Now if you only train the Horse over short gallops they wont stay the distance but give the beast plenty of work and he will have a better chance of staying . Decided on two against the field Galvin and The Panda .

[silverbullet]

Rodent you have your well appointed seaside multistory close to the Motorway to exercise your engine every day .I was sitting on the stairs down the flats pondering this Emissions thing and trying to pick the Grand national winner for Saturday .Now if you only train the Horse over short gallops they wont stay the distance but give the beast plenty of work and he will have a better chance of staying . Decided on two against the field Galvin and The Panda .

He's battling his demons: See The Northside People for details!

[Cool Boola]

Anyone for a walnut Whip……

[Belker]

keep bleedin tellin people and i just can't fuckin get through to them.
it's ingrained in people that you use Dipetane once a year before an NCT or some bollocks or when a DPF problem appears.
YOU USE DIPETANE AT EVERY FILL UP SO YOU DON'T GET A PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.
diesel is a dirty burning fuel. not only is the soot collecting in the DPF it's cacking up the EGR, intake manifold and the injectors.
You get a complete burn of the fuel with added Dipetane so there's no carbon and soot build up and it'll work to tackle the backlog of build up that's already present.

The service manager in Toyota didn't agree with you DMG.

...  I asked the Toyoya service manger about dipetane and he said (during his 10 minute lecture on it) that it is great temporarily and will get you past NCT but eventually the soot temperatue will rise and the DPF will not be able to clean it.

[Belker]

@ken, I don't think any of these "professionals" set out to rip you off, but once their diagnostics were proved wrong,  they were happy to steal your cash anyway,  they all saw the same fault code, and decided.... its must be a clogged Dpf... let's clean it.... when that didn't work... it must be a flywheel,  let's change it!... when that didn't work.... it must be super clogged, let's change it.... when that didn't work... it must be a faulty sensor... let's replace it... etc etc..... in reality,  their guess is no better than yours...
If it was me, I'd drive on without doing anything else, and clear all faults 15 minutes before my next nct.

Thanks Korky, and yes indeed that is the plan from here on, just drive it on and use a proper fuel cleaner (not dipetane) when required.

[Belker]

A basic OBDII reader would probably have told you (or led you to research allowing you to conclude) that changing the 3Arena sensor was the logical next step, Ken. Have you googled the price of the sensor? Being a VAG owner I've never replaced one but I think it just screws into the exhaust.... a simple enough job with the right spanner!

I can change a puncture or a light bulb in the car Stephen and that's about it mechanically.
Most ordinary folk are reared as understanding 1, 2, 3 and the basics of life ....
I was reared as 1, 6/4, 2 with no life basics in anything else ....
Forgot to thank SB fer his very kind offer of an OB reader earlier. 
Thanks fer the offer SB but I wouldn't know what to do with it or what to do after getting the readings.....

[Belker]

Ken  Check out fast chargers in Douglas or slow chargers on street .Diesel and Petrol set to go up .It still might be worth your while taking the 20K and getting a EV the MG5 is the best value motor on the Road @15K and bits .An ev using street fills might still be cheaper to run than a solid fuel motor ..Looking at The Early School Leaver I doubt the Grants will be available for next year .

I respect all Taxi drivers working modes and methods but fer me personally I really dislike the EV's and hopefully I will never get to have to own one.

[Dr. Martin Gooter Bling]

keep bleedin tellin people and i just can't fuckin get through to them.
it's ingrained in people that you use Dipetane once a year before an NCT or some bollocks or when a DPF problem appears.
YOU USE DIPETANE AT EVERY FILL UP SO YOU DON'T GET A PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.
diesel is a dirty burning fuel. not only is the soot collecting in the DPF it's cacking up the EGR, intake manifold and the injectors.
You get a complete burn of the fuel with added Dipetane so there's no carbon and soot build up and it'll work to tackle the backlog of build up that's already present.

The service manager in Toyota didn't agree with you DMG.

...  I asked the Toyoya service manger about dipetane and he said (during his 10 minute lecture on it) that it is great temporarily and will get you past NCT but eventually the soot temperatue will rise and the DPF will not be able to clean it.

he's talking gick.

[Panel]

Dpf light has come on the odd time in my shitbox, I throw a bottle of JML
DPF cleaner into it at every service and give it a run out the M4 have to make sure ya have a full tank of diesel and keep it above 2.5k rpm, all ya have to is spay it up steam of the filter by taking off the pressure sensor and spay liberally.



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[taxi1990]

That Toyota service manager is probably driving a Toyota with the DPF taken out, he knows the real way to deal with them.

I bought a 5 year old taxi for 14,000 euro and my biggest bill fixing it was 1000 euro (new DPF which only lasted 1 year) and there is nearly 360,000 miles my car now. If I ever have DPF issues again with a car, its coming out and n0t being replaced, that 1000 euro was a total waste of money.

haven't had a DPF warning in 3 or 4 years thankfully and I will never have one again on it even if I get to 500,000 miles.

[Octavia1]

Problem ....its bollixed ...


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