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Offline SClass

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #120 on: August 02, 2018, 10:32:25 pm »
We have 2 already sclass. Identity Ireland,and the national party I'm a member myself


They need to merge, not enough numbers, or funds,

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #121 on: August 02, 2018, 11:12:08 pm »
Already suggested to Justin Barrett,and Peter O Loughlin leaders of both partys

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #122 on: August 02, 2018, 11:13:44 pm »
You should read both of their policy documents,I think you will find them both interesting

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #123 on: August 03, 2018, 08:35:48 am »
I trust nothing anyone posts here can be enshrined into the precepts of a party? Youth Defence is a bit ironic considering the age profile of most contributors and that said pasty-faced, cranky aul whingers can't be taken seriously.........

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #124 on: August 03, 2018, 08:43:13 am »
take back our country,and our national identity.for to long now, we have been told to chance our culture to facilitate new arrivals. well hopefully not any more. great to see the rise of the far right across Europe

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #125 on: August 03, 2018, 08:49:47 am »
Good luck with that Dalyer. Very carefully planned political machines are behind the exodus from Africa and the Middle-East. Complex and intricate minds orchestrated this and cleverly introduced legislation to make it a crime to disagree with them....if anything we should all be out praying....that's our only hope....and I ain't no Baptist either.........

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #126 on: August 03, 2018, 09:23:41 am »
Dollymount Ireland Inc is a parasitic wastteland designed to be exploited by big business and moronic republicans who believe it is a country .We are fucking beggers as a country no better than the street urchin who tries to tap you up for a few Euro .We as a country are parasites run by probably the best Spongers on earth who parade as an Irish Government .We survived as a Free State on handouts fron our British Pastmasters then we begged to be allowed in to the EEC and were refused on many occasions until they had to let us in because the Brits wanted in and we shared a border with them now that has come back to haunt the EU .As soon as we got membership of the Common Market and development money was available FF /FG/Lab all decided to draw down that money and use it as collatteral to borrow more to build big housing estates  for their voters and new roads for their voters and subsidise their voting farmers in parts of the country where they couldnt buy votes with council houses ,but the morons for got that the part of the money borrowed had to be repaid .So income tax went up to over 50% interest rates on Mortgages to 18% Bertie realized there was no more money to be borrowed by the government so he encouraged people to borrow money themselves and buy gaffs and cars and send their kids to private schools and Ibiza .Dollymount this country is a Ponzy scheme based on mooching cheating and fiddling .Apple were just declared the first company to be worth a Trillion that makes them 5 times more valuable than all of Irelands GDP but our government helped them to rob other people and the silly cunts handed the money they fiddled right back to Apple .I love your idea that old Ireland was a grand place before the EU .Men drank Guinness and rode fuck out of the missus and kept her like a farrowing pig feeding kids all her life .Most men earned not enough to feed their families and couldnt wait to have enough hair on their mickey to be old enough to fuck off to England or the USA .If you did have a job then two rooms in a tenement was bliss .Dollymount the Irish Character is not Red headed women with freckles dancing to some lad wearing a Bawneed Sweater playing the Tin Whistle or the Fiddle. Give up your  romantic misunderstanding of what it means to be Irish and embrace the reality Being Irish means being a cute whore who knows how the game is played and playing it without anybody ever knowing you are a player .When Paddy arrived in Ellis Island the first thing he did was get organised get into Politics Chicago was run by the Irish for the Irish .Paddy joined the police while the Italian was robbing the kip Paddy was getting backhanders a wage and a pension .The longer he was in the cops the higher he went in the organisation the bigger the backhanders while the bigger the mobster got the more likely he was to get whacked by the next kid on the block who Paddy got coin off to look after .Dollymount the irish are among the most successful people on earth and our biggest trick is to make people like us ,In what universe do you think Ireland would ever leave the EU and go back to the past where we couldnt even grow a field of Spuds .Me dog who I paid a few ton for is lying on the bed looking out the window after finishing his breakfast while im watching the BBC news and the story is the London Borough of Tower Hamlets yes London one of the Great Cities of the world today will launch free meals for kids to overcome holiday food poverty as these kids are missing out on free school meals .If you ever read Mr Charles Dickens Oliver Twist you might stumble upon the Character Fagan the most successful of the band of robbers any coincidence he had an Irish Surname
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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #127 on: August 03, 2018, 09:54:21 am »
I think twithdrawing from the EU ourselves should be seriously considered.by doing that,we would be free to cut our own deals with other countries throughout the world,including the UK.this would provide the economic benefits sought by people who care about economics,and at the same time it would give auld fellas like me back my national identity,which is what I care about

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #128 on: August 03, 2018, 10:22:32 am »
Steady on John,,,,,,,,,,Fagin was a jew...you're thinking of Fagan, the fella who broke into the Queen's gaff. The Irish were plundering and screwing America long before the Mafia was conceived....that's why the joined and eventually took over the cops.

Nedser and Boss Croker and the lads ran the gaff long before Giancana and Castellano, or Costello as the cops called him. The Italians considered the Micks to be too unscrupulous so they edged them out and then they entered politics.........Sam Giancana or Mooney as he was known, was shafted by Joe Kennedy so he took his revenge in other ways.....

Joe Kennedy reneged on a debt............whatta mistake a ta make a.


All kicking off in Laois now:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-investigating-after-five-men-found-in-the-back-of-a-truck-in-laois-859778.html
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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #129 on: August 03, 2018, 11:22:17 am »
They're doin Air BnB in Tony's gaff!!


Call the cops!!

The Liffey Lip

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #130 on: August 03, 2018, 11:59:15 am »
Electric Pigs knicking.

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #131 on: August 03, 2018, 12:08:54 pm »
I think twithdrawing from the EU ourselves should be seriously considered.by doing that,we would be free to cut our own deals with other countries throughout the world,including the UK.this would provide the economic benefits sought by people who care about economics,and at the same time it would give auld fellas like me back my national identity,which is what I care about

Dollymount who would need to do a deal with us ?The only reason most big companies are here is to enter  the Commom Market if we are out they would be gone overnight .All we have to export is Turf our food industry is over rated we mainly sell overproduced offal and overpriced beef and butter sold on the image of this being a Green and pleasant land .

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #132 on: August 03, 2018, 12:13:45 pm »
I think twithdrawing from the EU ourselves should be seriously considered.by doing that,we would be free to cut our own deals with other countries throughout the world,including the UK.this would provide the economic benefits sought by people who care about economics,and at the same time it would give auld fellas like me back my national identity,which is what I care about

Dollymount who would need to do a deal with us ?The only reason most big companies are here is to enter  the Commom Market if we are out they would be gone overnight .All we have to export is Turf our food industry is over rated we mainly sell overproduced offal and overpriced beef and butter sold on the image of this being a Green and pleasant land .

Precisely right. We're stuck with them and they own us, hook, line and sinker. However, the upshot of our so-called elevation to first world status is that we will eventually have to take several for the equipe in Strasbourg. Our intake of refugees is minimal thus far. Coveney has warned us to expect more and Dizzee Pascal has offset monies to deal with same.........Rainy Day funds have nothing to do with our ageing population.

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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #133 on: August 03, 2018, 12:34:59 pm »
I think twithdrawing from the EU ourselves should be seriously considered.by doing that,we would be free to cut our own deals with other countries throughout the world,including the UK.this would provide the economic benefits sought by people who care about economics,and at the same time it would give auld fellas like me back my national identity,which is what I care about

Dollymount who would need to do a deal with us ?The only reason most big companies are here is to enter  the Commom Market if we are out they would be gone overnight .All we have to export is Turf our food industry is over rated we mainly sell overproduced offal and overpriced beef and butter sold on the image of this being a Green and pleasant land .

Precisely right. We're stuck with them and they own us, hook, line and sinker. However, the upshot of our so-called elevation to first world status is that we will eventually have to take several for the equipe in Strasbourg. Our intake of refugees is minimal thus far. Coveney has warned us to expect more and Dizzee Pascal has offset monies to deal with same.........Rainy Day funds have nothing to do with our ageing population.

Last month the Central Statistics Office (CSO) published the annual national accounts for the Republic. An inevitable consequence of the globalised nature of this economy is that they do not provide a clear picture of what is happening: as discussed in earlier articles we need significant additional data to understand just how fast the economy is growing.

The headline GDP figures suggest that the Irish economy grew by about 7 per cent last year, while gross national income GNI suggested a growth rate of 4.5 per cent. By contrast, the new adjusted measure GNI grew by only 3 per cent in current prices, and probably less in constant prices.

The Central Bank in its latest Quarterly, published earlier this week, refers to these problems, saying it is “difficult to analyse adequately fundamental questions such as the current cyclical position of the economy or the extent to which growth is being driven by domestic or external factors”.

The inevitable difficulties in reading the economy’s runes cause problems for policymakers in understanding what is really going on
Nonetheless, the Central Bank, building on a growth figure for 2017 of 4.5 per cent, expects that the economy will continue to grow at over 4 per cent into next year. This “feels” right given the rapid growth in employment. However, it is a bit like driving in a thunderstorm. We know there is a road in front of us, but we can’t really see it.

Partly reflecting this uncertainty, the Central Bank, the ESRI, Fiscal Advisory Council and the Department of Finance are all recommending great caution in the next budget – it should plan for a government surplus in 2019.

The inevitable difficulties in reading the economy’s runes cause problems for policymakers in understanding what is really going on.

The National Competitiveness Council on Wednesday expressed its concern about Ireland’s vulnerability to changes by a few very large companies. It rightly pointed to our heavy dependence on a handful of firms for the size of tax revenue, referring to the fact that five companies account for 40 per cent of our exports.

Large companies
However, a fuller reading of the available CSO data would suggest a rather different picture. While the National Competitiveness Council is right to say a few large companies account for a large share of our recorded exports, some of these are goods manufactured in the Far East and sold on world markets, with Ireland not even being a stopover.

For these goods, and much of the other exports of foreign multinationals (MNEs), there is very little value added in Ireland, and their impact on the real economy is low and much smaller than their face value.

The CSO’s Institutional Sector Accounts provide very valuable information on the impact on the economy of large MNEs. The 50 largest such firms account for around 5 per cent of Net National Income (the best measure of the economic welfare of those living in Ireland). The remaining smaller foreign MNEs account for a further 10 per cent of the economy. Thus, while clearly important to Ireland the top multinationals are really a small fraction of our economy.

Ireland’s vulnerability to changes in behaviour of MNEs lies more in the fact that 80 per cent of corporation tax receipts, amounting to around 3.5 per cent of adjusted national income, comes from MNEs. As a range of bodies, including the Department of Finance, have stressed, this is where Ireland’s true vulnerability lies.

As Brexit ructions rock the UK, last week it emerged the British government was making plans to ensure continued access to drugs made in Ireland and other EU countries after it has left. However, there is little danger of a sudden stop in these exports – if necessary the RAF will deliver them. Rather the vulnerability of Irish exports to Brexit is predominantly a challenge for domestic firms, not for high-tech MNEs.

Imbalances
The current account of the balance of payments ought to be a crucial indicator of whether there are serious imbalances in the economy – it reflects the difference between what we earn and what we pay abroad. In the run-up to the economic crisis it showed a huge deficit, which in 2006-2007 should have been a red light for policymakers.

However, as with the national accounts, the current account balance is today heavily distorted by transactions involving aircraft leasing and foreign-owned intellectual property, as a result showing a huge surplus that bears no relation to reality.

To deal with this problem the CSO have published an adjusted measure excluding the distorting items. The result shows a small balance of payments surplus for 2016 and 2017, suggesting that economic growth to date is real and sustainable. This adjusted measure is a valuable addition to our understanding of what is going on in the economy.

40% of all our exports  by 5 companies .Wait till the Brits who always had our backs leave the EU then Macron ,Merkel will beat the shit out of us with universal credits and tax rates .The bog of Allan and Skellig Michael will be populated with refugees and the Gay Foreigner or his successors will get headage allowances from the EU for taking them in .We took the German Mark back in the 70s just like we took the Kings Shilling in the 18 hundreds .if we had the balls for it and were not afraid of upsetting the Yanks we should welcome in the Chinease and give them the same access we afforded the Yanks into the European markets .This country is in for the shock of their lives when the Old Enemy the Brits are gone and replaced by our Friends the French and Germans .
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Re: Brexit for dummies
« Reply #134 on: August 03, 2018, 01:09:55 pm »
Captain Mainwaring...............pray Fine Gael don't win an overall majority next time, demands Pike. The 3rd scenario has been redacted by Govt sources for data protection reasons....but it's probably as bad as Fatima.......

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/post-brexit-illegals-influx-could-sink-asylum-system-and-overload-state-services-859455.html

 


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