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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2021, 11:48:26 am »
Gas if Joseph gets them --a few years ago Kate supposedly  got warned off by Ann Marie for teaching a young Joe how to ride--I believe Donacha could nearly take up stud duties in Coolmore he is putting it about so much ,God its a great game for a gallop--oh to be young again !

You would think there would be several trainers waiting to take on the License, thinking of all the 10% trainers commission that's a begging until a full result of inquiry --only hope that the other video that's floating about isn't about same story or he is truly fucked !

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2021, 12:36:24 pm »
Some amount of Fuckers in that Game .Fallon was alleged to be riding Cecils Mare and Asmusen was jocked off for fucking a Ballydoyle Filly .Ruby was ordered back to Ireland for Siring a son with a bird out of Nicholls .Even Lester ended up with a son by a different Broodmare .The Horset set get upset when they crossbreed outside the Game most of them marry other trainers kids or jockies marry into trainers families to increase the money pile .Elliott was is an outsider no real connection to the Game .

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2021, 01:27:19 pm »
Now looks like Willie or De Broomhead will get Chevley Park horses .Might be a good move by Joseph  O Brien not to get involved .

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2021, 02:40:48 pm »
Well at least Paul Carberry came out in support ---O Leary seems to be still on board, going to accompany him to inquiry on Fri !

Jane Mangan siding with the female end of things !

We think taxi industry is bad --there are some amount of back stabbers out there  !

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2021, 03:18:25 pm »
Leading owners Cheveley Park Stud have announced that they will be removing their eight horses from Gordon Elliott's yard after a picture emerged of the trainer sitting on a dead horse.

One of the most successful breeding and ownership operations in the sport, Cheveley Park are more renowned for their success on the Flat, but have ramped up their interest in National Hunt racing in recent years and already enjoyed multiple winners at the Cheltenham Festival.

The most notable is the brilliant Envoi Allen, arguably the most exciting horse in Elliott’s yard following back-to-back Festival wins in the Champion Bumper and the Ballymore Novices’ Hurdle in his unbeaten career to date.


However, the horses will be removed from Elliott - whose hearing with the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board will take place on Friday - and moved to Henry de Bromhead and Willie Mullins.

Cheveley Park director Richard Thompson told Sky Sports Racing: “We’ve made a decision this morning to move the horses from Gordon’s yard.

“We have eight horses [with Elliott] and they’ll go to Henry de Bromhead and Willie Mullins. That will be organised by Chris Richardson [Cheveley Park’s managing director] and the team. Logistics are in place and we’re organising it right now.”

Confirming plans for the team’s four Cheltenham Festival contenders, Thompson said Marsh Novices’ Chase favourite Envoi Allen will join De Bromhead, along with Supreme Novices’ Hurdle contender Ballyadam and possible Triumph Hurdle hope Quilixios.

Sir Gerhard, who is set to put his unbeaten record on the line in the Weatherbys Champion Bumper, will be trained by Mullins, who already houses the favourite for the race in Kilcruit.

Thompson is hoping any affect to the horses’ training routines, with the Festival only a fortnight away, will be minimal.

He added: “Hopefully, with trainers like Henry and Willie and the Cheveley team headed by Chris, we’ve got real professionals on the job to hopefully be able to resolve this very quickly. It should be very smooth. That’s what we’re hoping for. It’s just very unfortunate timing, obviously.”

Reputation to consider

Thompson feels Cheveley Park ultimately had little option but to move the horses to other yards to ensure their reputation remained intact.

He said: “We had to consider what was happening [on Monday] with the building story and the backdrop of Cheveley’s reputation – in terms of maybe the most important British-owned racing and breeding operation in the UK.

“This reputation has been built up with various breeders and many people support us. We had to look at the situation in context of where Cheveley sit in the industry and our responsibility to the industry in Britain. It’s obviously very disappointing and extremely upsetting for the industry.

“People love horses and we, as a family, purchased Cheveley Park in 1975, so we’ve been racing and breeding for coming up to 46 years.

“I don’t know what the implications are longer term – I’m not close enough to the centre of the politics of racing and how it works between Britain and Ireland.

“All I know is, with my Cheveley Park Stud hat on, we had to take a decision as a board of directors to disassociate ourselves with Gordon at this time and do the right thing by the stud and by the industry.”

When asked if there was a possibility of Cheveley Park having horses with Elliott again in the long-term, Thompson added: “For the time being we’re moving the horses and that’s it.

“Obviously for Gordon, it’s a terrible time for him, but he’s made a terrible error of judgement, which he admits. I explained to him that we had to do the right thing by Cheveley Park and the right thing by our standing in the industry and what people expect of us.

“I’m not going to make a comment about long-term, but certainly in the short to medium term these horses will stay with Henry and Willie.”

Kennedy to keep Envoi Allen ride at Cheltenham

While plans remain uncertain in such a fast-moving situation, Thompson expects Jack Kennedy to keep the ride on Envoi Allen at Cheltenham.

He said: “Envoi Allen has had Davy Russell and recently Jack Kennedy, and I personally would like to stick to continuity on retaining Davy and/or Jack, depending on injuries etc. With Envoi in particular, we want to stick to the previous relationships.”


Elliott has been “cooperating fully” with the IHRB since a photograph of him sitting on a dead horse on his gallops was posted on Twitter on Saturday night. On Monday the British Horseracing Association barred him from having runners in Britain while the image is investigated.

On Tuesday afternoon, the IHRB published a new statement on its Twitter account, which read: “The Referrals Committee of the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board is scheduled to convene on Friday 5th March to hear evidence and consider an investigation relating to Mr. Gordon Elliott (Trainer).”

 

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2021, 05:06:59 pm »
Some amount of Fuckers in that Game .Fallon was alleged to be riding Cecils Mare and Asmusen was jocked off for fucking a Ballydoyle Filly .Ruby was ordered back to Ireland for Siring a son with a bird out of Nicholls .Even Lester ended up with a son by a different Broodmare .The Horset set get upset when they crossbreed outside the Game most of them marry other trainers kids or jockies marry into trainers families to increase the money pile .Elliott was is an outsider no real connection to the Game .
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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2021, 05:58:58 pm »
Elliot's not from horsey stock, BS. His aulfella was a motor mechanic, I believe - although I did hear of him sourcing horses for several international standard show jumpers a few years back. Anywaysanall, he's quite a vulgar man. I once heard him swear on television. Fitting that he has O'Leary's support, I guess.

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2021, 06:01:01 pm »
Elliot's not from horsey stock, BS. His aulfella was a motor mechanic, I believe - although I did hear of him sourcing horses for several international standard show jumpers a few years back. Anywaysanall, he's quite a vulgar man. I once heard him swear on television. Fitting that he has O'Leary's support, I guess.
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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2021, 06:26:58 pm »
If Elliott is barred .Is there a rule for how long a horse has to be in another Trainers care before it can run in that trainers name ?

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2021, 07:23:58 pm »
Another video of a jockey doing something remarkably similar is doing the rounds, a chap by the name of Rob James. If that name rings a bell it's probably because he rode Milan Native to victory in the Fulke Walwyn Kim Muir Challenge Cup Amateur Riders' Handicap Chase at last year's Cheltenham festival. Interestingly, Milan Native is/was owned by O'Leary and trained by Elliot.

Seems to be something of a "thing" with that crew... definitely not an isolated incident.

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2021, 07:56:09 pm »
Wonder where JP is in all this --if he came out on Elliot's side it would be a big plus !

Russell still silent --not a lot of people you could call mates in that world !

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2021, 08:04:51 pm »
Reminds me of telling someone that I was thinking of emigrating to Switzerland a good few years ago. Why Switzerland, says she... Well, the flag's a big plus, says I.

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2021, 08:06:39 pm »
Anything other than lifetime bans for Elliot, James, O'Leary and anyone else who supports this carry on would be a whitewash. Get them out... Now!

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2021, 10:09:50 pm »
If Elliott is barred .Is there a rule for how long a horse has to be in another Trainers care before it can run in that trainers name ?

As far as I know they can run the next day if the paperwork is done,like if you claim a horse out of a seller.

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2021, 10:40:07 pm »
Reminds me of telling someone that I was thinking of emigrating to Switzerland a good few years ago. Why Switzerland, says she... Well, the flag's a big plus, says I.

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