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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2021, 11:22:09 pm »
Anything other than lifetime bans for Elliot, James, O'Leary and anyone else who supports this carry on would be a whitewash. Get them out... Now!

Neigh Neigh, thrice Neigh! 8)

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2021, 12:12:44 pm »
It appears the Instigator arrived in the stable pub to find Gordon doing a bit of mouth to mouth with a stable lass--one word led to another and the two birds ended up on the deck--the Instigator ended up with a black eye, hence non appearance in Dundalk on Friday for her TV gig--there is one thing certain he is going to be screwed to the wall maybe 100k fine and warned off 6 months --business destroyed !

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2021, 12:23:18 pm »
Im going to call this a bit different Punter .The Brits are putting the boot in HRI wont like Paddy bashing .O leary will supply top lawyers scare the shite out of HRI Im sure Elliott knows where some of the bodies are buried .My guess 30K fine and warned about his future conduct .Nothing more to see here .

HRI have treated the more elite trainers with kit gloves while banning others .Last thing they will want ids a ferel Elliott spilling the beans .

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2021, 12:43:31 pm »
Im going to call this a bit different Punter .The Brits are putting the boot in HRI wont like Paddy bashing .O leary will supply top lawyers scare the shite out of HRI Im sure Elliott knows where some of the bodies are buried .My guess 30K fine and warned about his future conduct .Nothing more to see here .

HRI have treated the more elite trainers with kit gloves while banning others .Last thing they will want ids a ferel Elliott spilling the beans .
Does he know where the horses are buried?

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2021, 05:50:36 pm »
Is there any footage from the stable shebeen or is that just hearsay, erm?

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2021, 06:17:23 pm »
Is there any footage from the stable shebeen or is that just hearsay, erm?

I saw it (cant's remember where) but Elliott says it's from last Cheltenham when there were no restrictions.

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2021, 06:20:44 pm »
Lying cunt... Elliott, that is...

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2021, 06:28:47 pm »
Don't know if it's been asked already but what is the 'normal' procedure when a horse drops dead?  Does it get a 'ceremonial' burial with its own plot & headstone or is it fukked onto the back of a lorry and taken away to a knackery?

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2021, 06:45:00 pm »
Don't know if it's been asked already but what is the 'normal' procedure when a horse drops dead?  Does it get a 'ceremonial' burial with its own plot & headstone or is it fukked onto the back of a lorry and taken away to a knackery?

Nah....the trainer sits on it and gets his photo taken!!

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2021, 07:01:03 pm »
Knacker comes and collects it then its butchered and exported to Europe where it is turned into Animal feed .Dead horsemeat is not allowed into the Irish foodchain .If Iceland want to add Pony to their Meat pies them must butcher the Pony from Live animals .

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2021, 07:01:31 pm »
Don't know if it's been asked already but what is the 'normal' procedure when a horse drops dead?  Does it get a 'ceremonial' burial with its own plot & headstone or is it fukked onto the back of a lorry and taken away to a knackery?

Nah....the trainer sits on it and gets his photo taken!!

Funny him sitting on a dead horse and riding a dog!

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2021, 07:12:11 pm »
Don't know if it's been asked already but what is the 'normal' procedure when a horse drops dead?  Does it get a 'ceremonial' burial with its own plot & headstone or is it fukked onto the back of a lorry and taken away to a knackery?

Nah....the trainer sits on it and gets his photo taken!!

Funny him sitting on a dead horse and riding a dog!

She turned out to be some bitch alri!!

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2021, 07:14:07 pm »
Knacker comes and collects it then its butchered and exported to Europe where it is turned into Animal feed .Dead horsemeat is not allowed into the Irish foodchain .If Iceland want to add Pony to their Meat pies them must butcher the Pony from Live animals .
If so, I don't understand what the fuss is?  The trainer was basically sitting on a large can of dog food.  It just had no label on it yet!

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2021, 07:15:30 pm »
Knacker comes and collects it then its butchered and exported to Europe where it is turned into Animal feed .Dead horsemeat is not allowed into the Irish foodchain .If Iceland want to add Pony to their Meat pies them must butcher the Pony from Live animals .
If so, I don't understand what the fuss is?  The trainer was basically sitting on a large can of dog food.  It just had no label on it yet!

Unprocessed food?

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Re: When you bring sport into the gutter
« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2021, 12:37:22 am »
JANE MANGAN
IT'S a fortnight to the Cheltenham Festival and instead of discussing the highlights on the horizon, it would be remiss of me not to address the storm that has engulfed our sport during the past week – that picture.

Gordon Elliott is a self-made man. The son of a panel-beater and a housewife from Summerhill, Elliott learned his trade as an amateur jockey with the great Martin Pipe before moving home to set up his stable in county Meath.

He sent out his first runners in 2006 and was yet to train a winner in Ireland when he won the Aintree Grand National with the Paul Nicholls cast-off Silver Birch in 2007.

Since then, two more Grand Nationals would follow courtesy of Tiger Roll along with 32 Cheltenham Festival winners including a Gold Cup with Don Cossack.


The picture is indefensible.
Elliott sitting on the ill-fated Morgan, chatting on the phone while smiling for the camera.

Disgraceful. Shameless. Disappointing.

Not only has this picture sent shockwaves through Cullentra but the entire industry has felt the tremors of this quake. Headline news on every media outlet throughout the week, racing has found its reputation pinned to a dartboard for anyone with an opinion to fire at the bullseye.

In the age of social media, everyone is entitled to their opinion and while we are not the judge or the jury, the online comments surrounding this case have been toxic, venomous even. Nobody denies there must be severe repercussions for such a heartless act but let’s be mindful that this man has watched his life’s work burn in an overnight flame.


Last week, Elliott was responsible for over a quarter of the handicap entries at the Cheltenham Festival and a number of Grade 1 favourites including Zanahiyr in the Triumph Hurdle and Envoi Allen in the Festival Chase. By Monday afternoon, the British Horseracing Authority released a statement outlining that Elliott would not be permitted to have any runners in the UK pending the outcome of the IHRB investigation.

The innocent parties in this scandal are not only the horses in question but the staff who care for them on a daily basis.
 

Those who have forged relationships with these animals and know their characters, habits and preferences like nobody else.

On Tuesday afternoon, Cheveley Park Stud announced that they would be moving their eight horses from Elliott’s yard to Henry de Bromhead and Willie Mullins. Sir Gerhard, Grangeclare West and Classic Getaway to Mullins – Envoi Allen, Ballyadam, Malone Road, Quilixios and Guily Billy to Henry de Bromhead.


Imagine the heartache of watching the animals you adore leave their environment and the people they recognize as comrades. Horses react to their environment and the people around them, this revelation will have hurt Gordon Elliott more than any suspension ever could.

FALLOUT

A workforce of nearly 80 people await Gordon’s fate. What will the outcome mean for them?

It is not for you, me or anyone online to decide what consequences should follow such actions, that responsibility lay with the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board. Elliott faces an IHRB disciplinary panel today, where a suspension of his license seems almost inevitable but what of his future?


Nobody can deny this man is a phenomenal trainer of racehorses. He will be sanctioned and he will serve his penance but when all is said and done, he has the right to rebuild his life.

He has the ability to succeed again and while the wound is fresh, some might deem this as lenient or unfair, but we must remember that this is a man who has admitted his mistake and vowed to learn from this dark chapter in his life.

 


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