Author Topic: Phone Home  (Read 1448 times)

john m

  • Guest
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2021, 02:22:25 am »
Occi read 1984 read Animal farm .You are even getting into the Groupthink that because somebody is not a Vaxxer they must be bad or deluded or misinformed .Think of some of the other Nutjobs that were against stuff like people telling you cigarettes cause cancer or Sugar causes diabetes or alcohol causes liver failure or car fumes will rot your lungs .Fucking Nonsence the whole lot of it wasent it ?

Offline Octavia1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9993
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • It's my field
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2021, 04:37:36 am »
Occi read 1984 read Animal farm .You are even getting into the Groupthink that because somebody is not a Vaxxer they must be bad or deluded or misinformed .Think of some of the other Nutjobs that were against stuff like people telling you cigarettes cause cancer or Sugar causes diabetes or alcohol causes liver failure or car fumes will rot your lungs .Fucking Nonsence the whole lot of it wasent it ?
Johnny .....I've never bean a "groupthinker".....
 ive told ya before
I've bean called a mad cnut all me life.....I'm a loner , ostracised on the outside thank fuk all me life.......i like it that way cause I don't fit in with monkeys an ape types .......
Anti vaxers ?  Ther just tryin to feel alive by swimming against the crowd.....most them are personality disordered ....not nessesssarily stupid but blinkered but always stuck in some
Childhood trauma  cage or inherent  physiologically induced boredom loop an must create drama to feel alive......the best way to do that is to play " the rebel" .....but to be a real renegade yu need original thought......an anti vaxers just follow the crowd that swims against the crowd ....Do ya know wat I mean like?

Poor cnuts  :-\

Offline mercenary for hire

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7763
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2021, 08:06:04 am »
Erm what are ya on about I never protested about water.Water is cheap..They're the exact type of people who won't take the vaccine.All getting angry on Facebook together pulling each others plums..probably drive diesels too...I'd say yer on it everyday stirring shit..

And C5 me oul fella passed earlier this year with Covid related complications.He was bollixed anyway but Covid expedited his exit and the restrictions caused unnecessary stress..He was probably younger than most of you lads on here so be happy if yer not vaccinated(it's your choice after all) but hope that you'll survive it if you get a bad dose..Anyway no sympathy necessary just looking at both sides of the argument.

In the US the anti vaxxers are turning up in hospitals in increasing numbers.They're gonna be blamed for us being locked down for another few years if things go that way.

If I had my way I'd just let it rip.If you dont want a vaccine fair enough,it's your body but you're taking it to protect others too so it seems very selfish to be on the antivax team to me...I prefer to be able to get on a flight easily or eat/drink indoors.Barman last night was scanning our QR codes for practice and sees no major issues with the new rules.Just go with the flow lads most of yis will be six feet under in 30 years a little vaccine isn't gonna make much difference but a bad dose of covid might.

john m

  • Guest
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2021, 08:56:12 am »
Merch you and me would be in agreement when you say ...If I had my way I'd just let it rip.If you dont want a vaccine fair enough,it's your body but you're taking it to protect others too so it seems very selfish to be on the antivax team to me...I prefer to be able to get on a flight easily or eat/drink indoors.Barman last night was scanning our QR codes for practice and sees no major issues with the new rules.Just go with the flow lads most of yis will be six feet under in 30 years a little vaccine isn't gonna make much difference but a bad dose of covid might.

  My problem is not with the vaccine it is with the way the European health barcode is being issued and exploited .The Irish Government lost a court case in making social welfare cards mandatory under GDPR they were banned but if Europe can impose enough conditions to move and enter on people then we will all VOLUNTARILY get an ID card in the guise of a Health card .The thing on your phone might one day hold your passport and your medical card and your R111 .That might sound a good thing until you turn up in A&E they scan your device and decide you might be to expensive to treat as they dont have the budget or they dont treat Junkies or Drunks or certain other ailments on ethical grounds .

 How much do you think the Pint will Go up to cover the cost of extra staff .I doubt you will be able to get a Pint in Dublin for under a Fiver and probably nearer six by Christmas after the budget

Offline mercenary for hire

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7763
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2021, 09:24:46 am »
The prices are already up 10% where I go.Plus yer tipping another 10% minimum for mandatory table service so things have already gotten pricey.People will pay it with no other option available.I stopped complaining about drink prices 20 years ago,best not to think about it.Expensive pints arent as nice as cheap ones for some reason.

john m

  • Guest
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2021, 09:32:05 am »
The prices are already up 10% where I go.Plus yer tipping another 10% minimum for mandatory table service so things have already gotten pricey.People will pay it with no other option available.I stopped complaining about drink prices 20 years ago,best not to think about it.Expensive pints arent as nice as cheap ones for some reason.


I remember first pint I bought I was 14 in the Royal Oak in Parkgate Street where First Ireland is now 42 P .A few years later you could go out with £5 .4 pints ten Carrolls bus home chips and still have bet money for the next day .Me wages at the time was 38P an hour as an apprentice .You didnt need ID in them days to get into a pub .

john m

  • Guest
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2021, 09:44:03 am »
Another Expert who contradicts a different expert ..Ali Bracken and Hugh O’Connell

July 25 2021 02:30 AM

Children aged five and upwards must be considered for Covid-19 vaccines to protect the country from the risk of virus outbreaks, a leading infectious diseases expert has said.

As the country further re-opens pubs and restaurants tomorrow, Dr Paddy Mallon warned: “I think schools have the potential to be a problem.”

The UCD academic, who is an infectious disease specialist at St Vincent’s Hospital in Dublin, said schools reopening in six weeks have the potential to be problematic, describing them as a “ticking time bomb”.

SO this lad is a SPECIALIST not a lot of work for him then what was the last Infectious disease he dealth with TB in the 1940s
« Last Edit: July 25, 2021, 09:51:53 am by john m »

Offline Bob Shillin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2520
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2021, 02:53:48 pm »
Condolences on your father's passing MFH. There's no good time to lose one's dad, and probably none worse than now.
"The sword of time will pierce our skins,
 it doesn't hurt when it begins,
 but as it works its' way on in
the pain gets stronger,
watch it grin.."

Offline Octavia1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9993
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • It's my field
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2021, 04:27:08 pm »
Condolences on your father's passing MFH. There's no good time to lose one's dad, and probably none worse than now.

+1

Offline mercenary for hire

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7763
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2021, 04:34:17 pm »
Ah thanks lads I dont really mention it for a reason but it's been a long time coming, and to be honest I was more upset about putting the dog down.Funny how the mind works.:-)

Offline Shallowhal

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13882
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2021, 08:35:19 pm »
Condolences on your Da....and the dog!!

Offline mercenary for hire

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7763
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2021, 08:46:36 pm »
Ha ha no need Hal, thanks..this is spoiling the mood.Get back to insulting each other FFS.


He was a good dog though.Bastard left me on me own just as the pandemic kicked off.

Offline sore

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 191
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2021, 09:12:15 pm »
Condolences on your Da....and the dog!!

+1

Offline Shallowhal

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13882
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2021, 09:34:40 pm »
Ha ha no need Hal, thanks..this is spoiling the mood.Get back to insulting each other FFS.


He was a good dog though.Bastard left me on me own just as the pandemic kicked off.

Ah shur...ye still have herself...regardless of the hairdresser car!!

john m

  • Guest
Re: Phone Home
« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2021, 05:58:19 am »
BACK TO WORK  ,,,,,,If your sick you wont be counted as sick .Fiddling the figures to cover their arses in case this goes wrong .




Senan Molony

July 26 2021 02:30 AM

Health experts have been told to exclude Covid-positive patients from daily case figures if they are not in hospital because of the viral infection.

Patients with appendicitis, for example, or an injury, but who happen to test positive for Covid-19, should be excluded from hospitalisation data, according to a Government letter sent to the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet).

Tánaiste Leo Varadkar, the minister in charge of enterprise, trade and employment, wants more accurate figures from Nphet on Covid-19 hospitalisations as the highly-infectious Delta variant is monitored.

He says people admitted with other complaints, illnesses and conditions, but who test positive for Covid-19 – often without symptoms – are being categorised as Covid-19 cases.

“There are essentially three categories and we should be able to quantify them,” he said.

“The first are those admitted with Covid and being treated for it; the second category are those admitted with something else but who got Covid in hospital and are now being treated for it, and the third are those admitted for something else, who were swabbed and found positive, but who are not being treated for it.”

Martin Fraser, secretary general at the Department of the Taoiseach, has written to Nphet seeking more detailed breakdowns to guide Government policy and to give a clearer picture of the Delta variant’s spread.

The letter suggests the daily data should only reflect people who go to hospital because of Covid
                       

×
Ministers privately believe at least 10pc of Covid-19 patients are unaffected by serious symptoms, with a senior Government source telling the Irish Independent: “We don’t know the actual level. It could be higher than that.”

Another said: “What the Cabinet is seeking from the HSE is better data on the number of people who are actually in hospital being treated for Covid.”



Data from other countries suggest that as many as one in seven hospital patients are Covid-19 positive, with the news coming as a shock to many as they are or were asymptomatic.


A total of 1,126 new cases of Covid-19 were reported yesterday, with 123 patients with the virus in hospital, 22 of whom are in intensive care units.

Mr Varadkar said some people were in hospital “because their appendix burst or they broke a leg, or they’re in for a knee op. It’s not that they’re being treated for Covid.

“So it is essential that we need to find out better data in terms of hospitalisations as to who is actually in hospital because they’re being treated for Covid, as opposed to who is in hospital and Covid positive, which of course is not quite the same thing.”

Elimination of non-specific Covid cases from figures has been adopted in many cases, with the World Health Organisation offering no opposition to the non-categorisation of such patients.

A senior source said: “It’s a bit of a grey area, and there could be some queries from Nphet, but essentially it’s about trying to get a sense of where we are at with acute cases.

“If we can get the figures sharpened up a bit will be all to the good so that we better know what we are dealing with as the situation continues and as hospitality opens up.”


 


Show Unread Posts