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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2022, 03:26:10 pm »
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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2022, 04:21:46 pm »
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)

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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2022, 04:23:12 pm »
Talkin to the wall alrite  ::)

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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2022, 05:11:55 pm »
 
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)

So do you reckon an able-bodied person can shout discrimination because he can't get all the benefits a cripple person gets?
« Last Edit: July 31, 2022, 05:14:35 pm by Tony »
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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2022, 06:09:34 pm »
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)

So do you reckon an able-bodied person can shout discrimination because he can't get all the benefits a cripple person gets?
Point out to me wer I said that Tony?

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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2022, 06:25:10 pm »
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The following vehicles are exempt from paying the M50 toll charge:

Vehicles modified for disabled use
Motorcycles
Fingal County Council vehicles
Army vehicles
Vehicles performing maintenance on the M50
Garda and ambulance service vehicles

The original question is a valid question because the fingal cc statement clearly states " vehicles modified for disabled use "

A wat Is  a vehicle modified for disabled use ....
At very least  the statement does not exclude a wat .

Also as I pointed out ...to charge the toll to a wat wit a  Wheelchair user on board is discrimination as the toll free is intended For the Wheelchair user
If the wat does not have a wheelchair user on board then
The taxi driver should maybe pay but that point could still be argued .....I would suggest that fingal cc wer  scratching ther heads  at this conundrum and because they found no practical way of differentiatin between a wc user on board a wat an a driver only wat that they just put in this blanket description as an easy option but I also said ther will be absolute trouble down the road if wc users are charged the toll if they  are in a wat an they will be in me opinion justified an if its braut to a higher authority they will win absolutely......I can only assume that  final cc
Have procrastinated refinement or implementation of a working solution because either they can't be arsed or more likely to assess the reaction an then do a cost based analysis to rectify the problem at a later date ....
Kicking the can down the road I tink they call it  oops
Or sweeping the dirt under the carpet .....




« Last Edit: July 31, 2022, 06:28:53 pm by Octavia1 »

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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2022, 07:46:47 pm »
I think bubba should expand on his reasoning actually!!

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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2022, 08:22:48 pm »
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)

So do you reckon an able-bodied person can shout discrimination because he can't get all the benefits a cripple person gets?
Point out to me wer I said that Tony?


I didn't say you said it
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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2022, 08:23:15 pm »
Laffin me bollix off

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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2022, 10:57:47 pm »
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)

So do you reckon an able-bodied person can shout discrimination because he can't get all the benefits a cripple person gets?
Point out to me wer I said that Tony?


I didn't say you said it

No ...but your suggesting I'm saying something that I'm not  through  the use of the word " so " and missrepresenting/ misinterpreting what im saying through your question .... what your suggesting I'm " rekoning " is ridiculous and far from what I'm saying .....
I'll reiterate my point if it helps

The fingal cc statement reads
" vehicle modified for Wheelchair use "

Is a wat modified for Wheelchair use ?



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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2022, 12:46:54 am »
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)

So do you reckon an able-bodied person can shout discrimination because he can't get all the benefits a cripple person gets?
Point out to me wer I said that Tony?


I didn't say you said it

No ...but your suggesting I'm saying something that I'm not  through  the use of the word " so " and missrepresenting/ misinterpreting what im saying through your question .... what your suggesting I'm " rekoning " is ridiculous and far from what I'm saying .....
I'll reiterate my point if it helps

The fingal cc statement reads
" vehicle modified for Wheelchair use "

Is a wat modified for Wheelchair use ?

The owner /driver has to be the crippled one to have the cripple pass not the passenger/ passengers
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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2022, 09:27:38 am »
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The following vehicles are exempt from paying the M50 toll charge:

Vehicles modified for disabled use
I'm with Octy on this !

IMO, ''Vehicles modified fer disabled use'' includes a WAT regardless of if they have a disabled customer on board or going to collect a disabled person, or if indeed fer private work, who could ever check which job the driver was on ?

The vehicle (WAT) has been modified fer disabled use !

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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2022, 09:32:28 am »
I did myself call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified last Friday, but was put on hold and I requested a call back, which has not happened yet, when it does I will share the information.

https://dtes.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Guidelines-for-Disabled-drivers-in-barrier-toll-plaze.pdf

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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2022, 09:38:06 am »
.... The fingal cc statement reads
" vehicle modified for Wheelchair use "

Is a wat modified for Wheelchair use ?

The owner /driver has to be the crippled one to have the cripple pass not the passenger/ passengers
Where does it say that Tony ?

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Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2022, 09:45:48 am »
I did myself call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified last Friday, but was put on hold and I requested a call back, which has not happened yet, when it does I will share the information.

https://dtes.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Guidelines-for-Disabled-drivers-in-barrier-toll-plaze.pdf

The answer is in the title DISABLED DRIVERS not passengers .
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