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Year of next general election
« on: September 07, 2022, 06:03:45 am »
If Cynide Tits freezes Electricity Prices in Britain and we dont in Ireland (and we wont ) We will do a windfall tax on Profits and the Big Wind farms wont build here if they get taxed while Landlords and Tech companies pay fuck all .If Scotland can Freeze Rents and we cant because the Government say Landlords have Property rights but they can bring in Minimum Gargle Prices taking away drinkers rights to shop for a bargain .Will the Irish People put up with getting shafted if they can see the brits getting some sort of Help /Can this Government Survive .4/1 Paddy Power a General Election this Year .You know the Country is Bolloxed when Leo the Traitor is staying Quiet .Mick from Cork and Eammo the Scallion doing all the TV bad news while the Traitor is working on his Abbs and hair dye .

Think there is a bit of Value in a small bet on this government to collapse .Brits have to respond to a European Court case by 14th if the reply is stick article 16 up Leos Backpassage Deal .Then Irish Farmers will be left with Millions of gallons of Milk that is processed in the North with nowhere to Go .Angry Farmers and their Gaff Less student Kids blocking the Streets of Dublin not a good sign for a government with a working majority of 2 .
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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2022, 03:19:34 pm »
Doubt anybody would pull the plug--cant see any rush to press the flesh from Gov or Independants,maybe the Shinners as they are leading the poles,but would they even want to face the shit on the horizon--reckon all with sit tight for another 18 months hope things improve,bump up their pension entitlements--seldom a Winter election !

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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2022, 04:49:46 pm »
HERE ARE THE RUNNERS AND RIDERS FOR AN ELECTION BUDGET .Government wont last with a majority of Two .Look at the offer for SF voters ,Ie unemployed and on welfare .
Taoiseach Micheál Martin has pledged there will be “substantial supports” announced in the coming weeks to help households struggling to pay skyrocketing bills as inflation soars.

These will be announced as part of the €6.7bn Budget on September 27.

This year’s Budget is significant because it will have two parts to it - the Budget itself and a separate package of one-off cost-of-living measures which could total over €1.5bn.

Here are the measures being considered by ministers as discussions get underway in Government buildings:

Another €200 electricity credit
The Government signed off on a €100 electricity credit earlier this year as part of a cost-of-living package. This was later doubled to €200 at a cost of €400m to the taxpayer and was deducted from electricity bills in the spring.


Double child benefit payments
Despite criticism that the electricity credit is a blanket measure which is not targeted at people struggling the most, ministers are also considering a one-off doubling of the child benefit payment.

The move would be a huge boost to parents, who would be in line for a €280 one-off payment if they have one child, or €560 if they have two.

             

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The Government hopes this would be a direct support to families and would also be made before Christmas.


Finance Minister Paschal Donohoe and Public Expenditure Minister Michael McGrath, who are responsible for controlling the State’s purse strings, are also considering a double payment of all welfare rates in the coming weeks.

The measure would be targeted at those on unemployment benefit who are hit hardest by sky-rocketing costs.


Ministers are examining whether a double payment of the State pension, jobseeker’s allowance, carer’s allowance and disability benefits, as well as other welfare supports, could be paid out. The payment would be alongside the annual Christmas bonus payment paid to all social welfare recipients.

The double payment of welfare rates is expected to be announced alongside an increase in weekly welfare payments, which may be as high as an additional €15 per week.

Tax breaks for landlords
The State is under pressure to act as unprecedented numbers of landlords continue to sell up and cash in on their properties with prices at Celtic Tiger levels amid a housing shortage. However, this continues to further shrink the rental market, meaning renters have fewer properties to live in.

Officials are looking at potentially reducing the high tax paid by landlords on their rental incomes, which can be over 50pc. However, they may only be able to avail of new tax reliefs if they offer long-term tenancies.

Public transport fares were cut by 20pc earlier this year and are expected to remain that way or even be reduced further. Photo: Gareth Chaney/Collins Photos
Public transport fares were cut by 20pc earlier this year and are expected to remain that way or even be reduced further. Photo: Gareth Chaney/Collins Photos
Supports for renters
Last year’s Budget faced criticism that it was not targeted to help renters in any way. This year, Housing Minister Darragh O’Brien is keen to put in place supports for renters. The Government is considering a tax credit for renters on their monthly outgoings.

Supports for schools
The Taoiseach has also vowed there will be supports for schools who are facing very high heating costs. He hinted to reporters in Offaly yesterday that this may be in additional funding through composite grants, which is used for day-to-day school costs.

“Schools will need supports to deal with the cost of energy in schools. Clearly, Government will help in all of that,” said Mr Martin. “We will go as far as we possibly can, in terms of resources we have and ensure we don’t make the inflation situation worse.”

Help for businesses
There have been calls for pandemic-style payments to help businesses hit with astronomical energy bills. One café in Athlone received an electricity bill of over €9,000 for one month. It is understood ministers are considering one-off credit payments to businesses for smaller enterprises.

Public transport
Public transport fares were cut by 20pc earlier this year as part of the first cost of living package in a move seen as a win for the Green Party. Independent.ie understands this reduction is likely to stay, or even be brought down further as part of the Budget.


If they can go to the country offering all these Goodies they might get a few seats extra but if they wait till next year when HUGE ESB and Gas bills fall through the letterbox and Cynide Tits is Buggering Leos Backpassage deal they will get wiped out .Its now or never .
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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2022, 05:50:40 pm »
Doubt anybody would pull the plug--cant see any rush to press the flesh from Gov or Independants,maybe the Shinners as they are leading the poles,but would they even want to face the shit on the horizon--reckon all with sit tight for another 18 months hope things improve,bump up their pension entitlements--seldom a Winter election !

We defo agree on this Punter;
The stats on Irish winter time general elections are not in your favour John M.
The first in 1918 was held in December, of the 32 after that only 1 was held in October and 2 in November which is kinda understandable that politicians don't like to be out on the campaign trail in wintertime.

Apart from that who wants the gig anyway ?
Liz will kick off with the brexit protocol.
Energy prices gone mad and nothing anybody here can do about it.
The bill fer the Covid clean-up is about due.
Who in their right mind would want to be taking all that on ?

Fine, you have a bet John M.
€200 @ 5/1 an Irish general election in 2022.

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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2022, 08:55:06 pm »
Doubt anybody would pull the plug--cant see any rush to press the flesh from Gov or Independants,maybe the Shinners as they are leading the poles,but would they even want to face the shit on the horizon--reckon all with sit tight for another 18 months hope things improve,bump up their pension entitlements--seldom a Winter election !

Shinners Do Not want a General Election .They would lose .They would be the Biggest Party at best 62 seats and that maximun more likely 57 .they need about 85 to form a secure government .If the Shinners do well then the Greens and Profit from the People lose out .So the winners of the Election will be the Social Democrats and Rural alliance .Who do you think they would prefer to work with Leo the Traitor Who wont be FG leader after the next election if Fg dont win 40+seats or the Army Council on the Falls Road ..A give away budget by Paggo of FG then a snap General election .The shrewd bet could be Paggo to be Next Taoiseach as a Compromise to help form the Next administration .

Its Politics Stop looking at the Pawns Rooks of Bishops the Queen is trying to be King but the Knights can move in mysterious ways .
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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2022, 09:19:33 pm »
5/1 far too short for me !

Me thinks knocking on a punters door in Oct/Nov wouldn't be met in a positive manner !

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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2022, 09:47:04 pm »
5/1 far too short for me !

Me thinks knocking on a punters door in Oct/Nov wouldn't be met in a positive manner !
I know !
But sur' der's no talking to him !

Once he gets an idea in his head then the 'Rose tinted glasses' go on !!

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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2022, 09:53:05 pm »
.... Shinners Do Not want a General Election .They would lose .They would be the Biggest Party at best 62 seats and that maximun more likely 57 .they need about 85 to form a secure government .If the Shinners do well then the Greens and Profit from the People lose out .So the winners of the Election will be the Social Democrats and Rural alliance .Who do you think they would prefer to work with Leo the Traitor Who wont be FG leader after the next election if Fg dont win 40+seats or the Army Council on the Falls Road ..A give away budget by Paggo of FG then a snap General election .The shrewd bet could be Paggo to be Next Taoiseach as a Compromise to help form the Next administration .

Its Politics Stop looking at the Pawns Rooks of Bishops the Queen is trying to be King but the Knights can move in mysterious ways .
I actually think that SF won't do as well as expected in the next general election.
My knowledge of elections and seats would be minimal in comparison to yours John M, but maybe we will strike a wager on this event at a later date when an election is announced.

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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2022, 09:57:03 pm »
Boyle's 4/1 FG most seats in next election looks tempting to me.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/irish-politics/irish-general-election/most-seats

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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2022, 11:09:31 pm »
Boyle's 4/1 FG most seats in next election looks tempting to me.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/irish-politics/irish-general-election/most-seats

Shinners get the Most its almost a given they will win a seat in every Dublin Constituency two in some .Their problem is they mop up the Leftie vote .Just look at Labour and FF both as Bertie once said were Socialist Parties The Shinners have taken their Support from them .The extra seats SF will win will be from Profit From the People ,Indies and about 5 of the Green Seats .Mary Lou will bring in a running mate. Nessa Hourigan Greens loses Angous O snoddig brings in a running mate Paddy the Husband of the Chinease Lord Mayor loses .Talk in Dublin South  Central is Leo might run there instead of Dublin West there is one Government seat there use to be Cathrine Byrne /Gay Mitchell/Jim Mitchell Seat .She lost out by a few hundred the last time to Joan Collins .her or the Communist from Ballyfermot wont be re elected .There is another bit of Politicing to be done .FF/FG know the Greens will be uprooted lucky to hold two or three seats .They will lose their influence on Policy and FF/FG can then ease off on the Greening of Farming and Killing of Cows .Sometimes you need to lose an election to win ,get rid of the Greens replace them with the Social Democrats who stand for nothing cant even pick between two people for leader .

Next Government FF/FG/Sdems /Rural alliance or Labour  That leaves Shinners with the three Profit from the People Td Murphy ,Barry ,Boyd Barrett I communist from Dublin South Central a load of neurotic independents to try form a Government .Here is my idea of a fair value bet .Leo wont get 40 seats he has lost seats in every election he was leader he is a Liability and a poxbottle cannot be trusted not to backstab or backpassage his colleagues .Rule in FG is they elect the Party Leader AFTER the Election .If they dont get 40 Seats Leo is a Liability get rid of him Paggo sneaks in Covney is a Fucking Halfwit and the Early School leaver is another Egomaniac wont go down well with Rural Deputies .
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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2022, 06:10:55 am »
Farmers wont wear this ....EU representatives have approached Brazil’s government, seeking to rekindle negotiations on the stalled 2019 EU-Mercosur trade agreement. Dail is due to vote on this Hourigan and Costello from the Greens will vote against it so will other Greens .Makes no sense Irish farmers have to make Carbon free meat while the Brazilians are burning down the Amazon .Government announce the programme of legislation for this session on Wednesday next week .If a vote on the Mercosour deal is included .I dont think this government will see Christmas .
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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2022, 11:43:06 am »
Like I said I don't think SF will do as well as they did at the last poll as the next one.
A few reasons why they may be wearing thin with the electorate;
Leo gave Pearse Doherty a proper spanking in a dail argument that Doherty started and Leo was unprepared fer.
Mary Lou screaming fer more houses while SF were objecting to almost every new housing developement being proposed by the current Gov.
In general SF's pedantic and 'acting the maggot' approach to most dail matters.

Granted, they are a great opposition party, but that's about it !
And I think the public will see it.

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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2022, 11:56:28 am »
Farmers wont wear this ....EU representatives have approached Brazil’s government, seeking to rekindle negotiations on the stalled 2019 EU-Mercosur trade agreement. Dail is due to vote on this Hourigan and Costello from the Greens will vote against it so will other Greens .Makes no sense Irish farmers have to make Carbon free meat while the Brazilians are burning down the Amazon .Government announce the programme of legislation for this session on Wednesday next week .If a vote on the Mercosour deal is included .I dont think this government will see Christmas .

"The stalled 2019 EU-Mercosur trade agreement", WTF is that ?
"Dail is due to vote on this Hourigan and Costello", Who de Fook are they ?
"While the Brazilians are burning down the Amazon", I mean 'REALLY ?'.

If I was a greedy man then I would offer you another 5 Duece's but I'll try to behave myself this morning.

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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2022, 04:43:36 pm »
Farmers wont wear this ....EU representatives have approached Brazil’s government, seeking to rekindle negotiations on the stalled 2019 EU-Mercosur trade agreement. Dail is due to vote on this Hourigan and Costello from the Greens will vote against it so will other Greens .Makes no sense Irish farmers have to make Carbon free meat while the Brazilians are burning down the Amazon .Government announce the programme of legislation for this session on Wednesday next week .If a vote on the Mercosour deal is included .I dont think this government will see Christmas .

"The stalled 2019 EU-Mercosur trade agreement", WTF is that ? Europe buys cheap food from South America that is not made with the same standards as home made stuff .And if we complain they can Sue us for breach of Contract  .In an International Court .So Irish Law would be second to some unknown Law .
"Dail is due to vote on this Hourigan and Costello", Who de Fook are they ? Two Green TD who have a bit of Principle stand for what they stood for .
"While the Brazilians are burning down the Amazon", I mean 'REALLY ?'. They burn more area of the Amazon Jungle to clear it for farming than all the Land area of Ireland every year .So we would be telling Irish Farmers to Cut emissions while encouraging the Brazillians to Burn the forest to sell us cheap meat .

If I was a greedy man then I would offer you another 5 Duece's but I'll try to behave myself this morning.

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Re: Year of next general election
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2022, 05:11:05 pm »
Watch the Farmers Kenneth the farmers will decide how long this government lasts .Farmer milking 400 cows fully electric Milking Parlour .If his power goes down he cant milk them by hand the Dairy wont take the Milk .Cows go unmilked they get mastitis ..His Kids cannot get a Gaff to go to college .Power goes down in the Creamery or the Creamery Trucks cant get Diesel to go collect the Milk or Farmers cannot keep it chilled until it is collected so the Creamery wont take it .You cant run a Farm from a Bikelane .FF and FG Rural TDs will be fucked if they keep playing Eammo the Cabbages Game .Self preservation Kenneth it only takes two Government TD to Vote against the Government and the Game is up .Add im Most Cows getting milked late in the Day would be in the Parlour at the time they want to charge the most for Electricity and they wont wait .
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