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Why only pay between blanch and Clondalkin ?
« on: December 04, 2022, 04:26:29 pm »
Transport Infrastructure Ireland has been tasked with exploring options around the future of road tolling, which could include a multi-point tolling system.

Such a system would see cars tolled based on the length of a road used, and would apply to motorways across the country, including the M50 in Dublin.

As reported by The Business Post, the work has been called "Project Bruce" or "Better Road User Charging Evaluation".

The options are being examined to help with the country meet climate objectives and improve revenue generation as the road network returns to public ownership.

These efforts are understood to be at an early stage, with most Public Private Partnership agreements running until 2030 and one due to remain in place until 2052.

It comes a number of days after the Cabinet agreed to defer an increase in toll charges until July at a cost to the taxpayer of €12.5 million.
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Re: Why only pay between blanch and Clondalkin ?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2022, 04:27:48 pm »
Posted this before .If you look before and after every Exit there are overhead gantries to hold the cameras to record you getting and off the 50 !
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Re: Why only pay between blanch and Clondalkin ?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2022, 04:53:16 pm »
Posted this before .If you look before and after every Exit there are overhead gantries to hold the cameras to record you getting and off the 50 !
What this does is deter people from using the M50 Dublin ring road and clogging up inner roads instead.

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Re: Why only pay between blanch and Clondalkin ?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2022, 06:46:29 am »
Posted this before .If you look before and after every Exit there are overhead gantries to hold the cameras to record you getting and off the 50 !
What this does is deter people from using the M50 Dublin ring road and clogging up inner roads instead.

The future Silver is Road Pricing .You will pay for every Km you drive with different tarriffs for different roads at different times .Port tunnell is a good example charge you more when its busy with trucks and they dont want cars .
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Re: Why only pay between blanch and Clondalkin ?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2022, 02:03:59 pm »
Posted this before .If you look before and after every Exit there are overhead gantries to hold the cameras to record you getting and off the 50 !
What this does is deter people from using the M50 Dublin ring road and clogging up inner roads instead.

The future Silver is Road Pricing .You will pay for every Km you drive with different tarriffs for different roads at different times .Port tunnell is a good example charge you more when its busy with trucks and they dont want cars .
I got my eflow bill this month and it was just the maintenance charge. I strongly suspect many will follow suit, or simply not pay.
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Fines totaling €164,000 handed to 13 motorists who didn't pay M50 tolls
A fine of €25,000 was given to a commercial vehicle owner who had 216 unpaid journeys.
Nov 22nd 2022, 8:31 AM 20,550 Views  0 Comments Share1  Tweet  Email

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THIRTEEN MOTORISTS HAVE been hit with fines totalling €164,000 after they failed to appear in court and ignored reams of warning letters for repeatedly dodging M50 tolls.

Transport Infrastructure Ireland (TII), the State agency dealing with road and public transport infrastructure, prosecuted them at Dublin District Court yesterday.

However, despite being summonsed, they did not attend the hearings, which went ahead in their absence.

Judge Anthony Halpin handed down fines ranging from €5,000 to €25,000, to be paid within six months.

He also ordered them to pay €350 in prosecution costs.

Twelve were regular private car owners, each with five sample counts for unpaid tolls from January to April. The court imposed fines of €15,000 in seven cases, including a motorist sent over a thousand warning letters about 498 outstanding tolls.

One case involved a commercial vehicle owner who received the highest fine yesterday for 216 unpaid trips on the motorway.

Each one would have cost €5.40 or just over €1,382 for all the journeys, but he was fined €25,000.

TII also revealed the motorists’ overall record of unpaid charges and hundreds of warning letters sent before court proceedings commenced.

The judge noted the types of vehicles and their records of outstanding charges. In each case, he heard the number of unpaid tolls and details of the level of engagement with the motorway operators. He also noted that they failed to turn up for the proceedings despite being sent summonses.

The TII could demonstrate which motorists made efforts to pay for some journeys, and they received less severe fines.

TII posted hundreds of warning letters to most defendants before bringing the court prosecutions, which can carry a potential custodial sentence.

The agency had certificates detailing the registered owners of the vehicles as well as pictures of them passing the toll gantry on specific dates.

Prosecuting counsel Edward Doocey BL (instructed by Pierse Fitzgibbon Solicitors) said the defendants were not in court, but Judge Halpin agreed to his application to proceed in their absence.

Counsel called on a TII witness to confirm each vehicle’s ownership records, the number of passages, and payment history.

The judge heard that most did not engage with the transport agency, and some had recently ceased being owners of the cars subject to the prosecutions. However, the TII could establish they were the owners at the time of the unpaid tolls.

The court can impose fines of up to €5,000 per charge and a six-month sentence.

However, it remains the practice of the motorway authority to select habitual non-payers to face criminal proceedings.

The standard M50 toll for a private car, €3.20, has to be paid before 8 pm the following day or there is a €3 penalty for missing the deadline.

Motorists get 14 days to pay for the journey and the initial penalty or face a more significant fee.

The charge ramps up after 56 days; warning letters and court proceedings follow if it remains unpaid.

Commercial and goods vehicle owners pay higher tolls. In all cases, the registered vehicle owner is liable even if they were not driving.



 


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