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john m

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what price a general election
« on: November 20, 2017, 11:46:48 pm »
Kelly has Leo on the ropes Department of justice confirm that Franny Fits did know that the gards were trying to shaft the whistelblower Mc Cabe in 2015 so she lied to the Dail.Kenny lied to the Dail and Leo lied to the Dail .You cant have a government that lies and GETS CAUGHT .If Kelly goes for the jugular this government might collapses .FF might decide to vote no confidence now that SF are leaderless .

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2017, 03:58:27 am »
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john m

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2017, 03:00:25 pm »
What price now Rodent Franny Fits ordered to address the Dail and tell the truth order of business to be changed to allow the Lynch mob have a go at her .

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2017, 06:27:19 pm »
Was it Watergate where they said it wasn't the crime that did for Nixon, it was the cover-up?

Crucial question is whether the TD's, esp the Independents, have enough service to get their big, fat, juicy pensions?

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2017, 06:47:08 pm »
im on @150/1 FG are in a mess FF might withdraw their support SF are leaderless ,ruraldrink driving post office closures homelessness and Brexit all traditional FF bread and butter issues .If FF smell blood then its game over .Fran did a deal with Leo to not run in the leadership contest in return for the FG presidential nomination that deal is now dead Leo might fuck her under the bus if he thinks it might save him .Watch Canny of the Alliance he is FF cuckoo  in the nest .

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2017, 12:10:22 am »
Tánaiste acknowledges 2015 email
21 Nov 2017 23:11


Tánaiste Frances Fitzgerald has told the Dáil that she was told by her department last Thursday that they had located an email in relation to the legal strategy of the former garda commissioner, which was sent to her on 15 May 2015.
She also told the house that the Taoiseach had spoken to Sergeant McCabe by telephone this evening in the last two hours and 'had a conversation with him about some of the issues in the email'.
Tánaiste: 'neither I nor the Department of Justice had any hand, act or part in the legal strategy of the former commissioner' pic.twitter.com/crg1E0DsEl
She said the email - which was circulated to members of the Dáil this evening - highlighted a disagreement that had arisen between the legal teams at the Commission representing Sgt McCabe and former garda commissioner Nóirín O'Sullivan.
She said the email indicated that counsel for An Garda Síochána has raised an allegation of a serious criminal complaint against Sgt McCabe, which had previously been made.
Ms Fitzgerald said the email stated that Sgt McCabe had always denied this.
The email released this evening in the #dail @rtenews pic.twitter.com/VLjU2h6DBa
The email said that counsel for Sgt McCabe objected to this issue being raised and asked if the Garda Commissioner had authorised this approach.
Ms O'Sullivan's authoritisation was confirmed in the email, although this was understood to be subject to further legal advice.
Ms Fitzgerald said this matter was already on the public record from the opening of the Disclosure's Tribunal.
She said the concluding point in the email advised that the Minister had no function and she said she could have no role in questioning the evidence given by a third party.
Ms Fitzgerald also insisted that she had no hand, act or part in the legal strategy against Sgt McCabe.
She added that said she learned of the details that emerged in May 2016, which emerged from leaked transcripts.

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2017, 09:06:23 am »
The Latin word Alibi, I was elsewhere, springs to mind. Leo seems always to have one....attending gay parades is a clever alibi indeed.

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2017, 10:44:49 am »
The Latin word Alibi, I was elsewhere, springs to mind. Leo seems always to have one....attending gay parades is a clever alibi indeed.

Leo wasent by her side last night ,lets see if SF put down a motion of no confidence in Fran if they do then the government have two choices let the vote proceed and trow her ovrboard or what is normal they reject the motion of no confidence and replace it with their own motion of confidence in her but to put the gun to FF heads they might instead of putting a motion in favour of Fran down for a vote FG might put down a vote of confidence in the entire government this would force a general election if FF dont abstain or vote confidence ,

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2017, 11:46:13 am »
150/1 about there being a general election, erm? Go away out of that you lying cunt. It's as sure as night follows day. General elections are held every 5 years at the outside.

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2017, 12:05:19 pm »
150/1 a december 2017 election you were with me when i put the bet on .the issue is do we live in a Republic or a Banana ,The gards gave falsw evidence against one of their own ,how can an ordinary decent criminal expect justice if the gards cant be trusted .If no politician has a problem with that we are fucked .

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2017, 12:15:46 pm »
You didn't specify any time limit in this thread. 150/1 seems fair for 2017.

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2017, 12:38:45 pm »
The Latin word Alibi, I was elsewhere, springs to mind. Leo seems always to have one....attending gay parades is a clever alibi indeed.

Leo wasent by her side last night ,lets see if SF put down a motion of no confidence in Fran if they do then the government have two choices let the vote proceed and trow her ovrboard or what is normal they reject the motion of no confidence and replace it with their own motion of confidence in her but to put the gun to FF heads they might instead of putting a motion in favour of Fran down for a vote FG might put down a vote of confidence in the entire government this would force a general election if FF dont abstain or vote confidence ,

Bigger picture is staring you in the face....again.

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2017, 01:58:45 pm »
SF doing the maths deciding if they will put down a motion of no confidence in Fran they have until 4.30 this afternoon to try to get a motion debated and enough time if the government falls for an election before christmas .Mary Lou had a great observation this morning that the e mail was actually sent before the case started not after it started .The big issue I think for SF is can they get into government in the republic to counterbalance the DUP in the UK ,If they think the answer is yes then they will go for it .

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2017, 11:38:38 am »
The SF heirs apparent haven't got what it takes to counter the Brits or their lapdogs, the DUP. Surprised Pearse has ruled himself out of the race all the same. He's a very capable and competent man. Maybe he knew it would be unwise to try going against the grain whereby having a pair of baps and subscribing to Hello! magazine are mandatory to running every organisation.

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Re: what price a general election
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2017, 11:54:27 am »
Doing some back of the envelope stuff .All the independent alliance TDS should lose their seats .PBFP WILL LOSE AT LEAST 2 joan collins and geno labour no gain possibly BURTON wont stand .so the math is simple if SF can get between 18 and 28 TDs they are guarenteed to be in government .IF they think they can get that many they will push Fran in the hope FF backs them and if they do then the supply and confidence is broken as FF will have voted against a government minister .Its now a numbers game has nothing to do with FRAN .

 


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