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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2550 on: November 11, 2021, 11:14:40 am »
I have some important news on this but I cant remember what it-is ????? ::fds ::fds oops
Dis an Dat Im not a rat

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2551 on: November 19, 2021, 11:56:20 am »
IF FOR ONE MINUTE JUST ONE MINUTE YOU THOUGHT BREXIT AND VIOLENCE IS NOT ON THE WAY .BERTIE THE GREAT COMMUNICATOR JUST SHIT ON THE ALTER IN THE LOCAL PROTESTANT CHURCH AND WIPED HIS ARSE WITH A RANGERS JERSEY >GET A GUN.

Loyalists who are opposed to the Northern Ireland Protocol “haven’t got a clue” about how it works, former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern has said.

Speaking at an event hosted by the Brexit Institute at Dublin City University (DCU) on Thursday, Mr Ahern said they view the arrangements as being solely about identity.

Unionist politicians hit out at the comments on Thursday evening.

The former Taoiseach said the contentious post-Brexit arrangements are not properly understood by the community, and viewed as a backdoor to a united Ireland.


He said: “I spend a lot of my life still in the North. The reality is in East Belfast and in the ghettos and in the areas where you’re likely to get trouble, is that people haven’t got a clue about the protocol, not a clue.

“They see it as identity.

“They see it as a road to the Dublin Government taking over again and this is a pathway to that. That’s the hard reality.”

The protocol was designed to prevent a hard border on the island of Ireland, by introducing controls in the Irish Sea on goods travelling between Britain and Northern Ireland.

The EU and the UK remain deadlocked in negotiations over its implementation, with the new barriers to east/west trade creating tensions in some loyalist and unionist communities.

Mr Ahern, a former Fianna Fáil leader and one of the architects of the Good Friday Agreement, said the idea that Protocol is about trade “just passes them by”.

He added: “In fact they’re not interested. It’s seen as a trick by the south to move the border from across the island, and to put it down the Irish Sea, as a trap for government.

“That’s how they see it. Even those who you might consider to be a bit more intelligent and articulate. That is the difficulty.”

     


Mr Ahern said negotiations over the protocol are made more difficult by this view.

He said: “We’re trying to do two things. We’re trying to solve the difficulties of medicine and meats and everything else in the protocol.

“But there’s another issue in the protocol, and that’s what is in the head and the ideological one, and that’s a far more difficult one to deal with.

“(DUP leader) Jeffrey Donaldson well understands how we might get over the detail, and the reason he keeps on about the other issue is because he’s trying to – which I don’t blame him for – he’s trying to serve the loyalist community as well.”

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DUP MP for East Belfast Gavin Robinson called on Mr Ahern to apologise for his comments.

“To associate East Belfast with a ghetto and suggest loyalists are not able to understand the protocol is demeaning and degrading,” he said.

“People in my constituency who can’t get their Amazon parcels from another part of the United Kingdom well understand the impact of the protocol.

“Rather than belittling those who oppose the protocol, Bertie Ahern should seek to understand why not a single elected unionist in Northern Ireland supports the protocol.

“As a man who was central to the Belfast Agreement being negotiated, Bertie should be honest in recognising that the protocol does alter Northern Ireland’s status within the United Kingdom single market without any consent from people living here.”

Senior DUP MLA Diane Dodds was also critical.

In a post on Twitter, she said: “Coming from the Dublin elite the snide comments in this piece about loyalist communities are despicable.”

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Minister for Foreign Affairs and Defence Simon Coveney (Niall Carson/PA)
Speaking earlier, Foreign Minister Simon Coveney said the EU had offered a comprehensive package to the UK, aimed at easing the implication of the Protocol.

He said: “This package represented a significant compromise for the EU.

“The lack of any evident reciprocal willingness to compromise from our UK partners to date has been deeply disappointing.

“The protocol was agreed by Lord Frost and Prime Minister Johnson, approved by this British government and ratified by the current UK Parliament.

“They have a duty to deliver on their commitments.

“It is very important we do not lose sight of the goal here, ensuring an outcome that is best for the people of Northern Ireland.”


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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2552 on: November 19, 2021, 12:01:57 pm »
He said: “I spend a lot of my life still in the North. The reality is in East Belfast and in the GHETTOS  and in the areas where you’re likely to get trouble, is that people haven’t got a clue about the protocol, not a clue.

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2553 on: November 19, 2021, 02:39:47 pm »
IF FOR ONE MINUTE JUST ONE MINUTE YOU THOUGHT BREXIT AND VIOLENCE IS NOT ON THE WAY .BERTIE THE GREAT COMMUNICATOR JUST SHIT ON THE ALTER IN THE LOCAL PROTESTANT CHURCH AND WIPED HIS ARSE WITH A RANGERS JERSEY >GET A GUN.

Loyalists who are opposed to the Northern Ireland Protocol “haven’t got a clue” about how it works, former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern has said.

Speaking at an event hosted by the Brexit Institute at Dublin City University (DCU) on Thursday, Mr Ahern said they view the arrangements as being solely about identity.

Unionist politicians hit out at the comments on Thursday evening.

The former Taoiseach said the contentious post-Brexit arrangements are not properly understood by the community, and viewed as a backdoor to a united Ireland.


He said: “I spend a lot of my life still in the North. The reality is in East Belfast and in the ghettos and in the areas where you’re likely to get trouble, is that people haven’t got a clue about the protocol, not a clue.

“They see it as identity.

“They see it as a road to the Dublin Government taking over again and this is a pathway to that. That’s the hard reality.”

The protocol was designed to prevent a hard border on the island of Ireland, by introducing controls in the Irish Sea on goods travelling between Britain and Northern Ireland.

The EU and the UK remain deadlocked in negotiations over its implementation, with the new barriers to east/west trade creating tensions in some loyalist and unionist communities.

Mr Ahern, a former Fianna Fáil leader and one of the architects of the Good Friday Agreement, said the idea that Protocol is about trade “just passes them by”.

He added: “In fact they’re not interested. It’s seen as a trick by the south to move the border from across the island, and to put it down the Irish Sea, as a trap for government.

“That’s how they see it. Even those who you might consider to be a bit more intelligent and articulate. That is the difficulty.”

     


Mr Ahern said negotiations over the protocol are made more difficult by this view.

He said: “We’re trying to do two things. We’re trying to solve the difficulties of medicine and meats and everything else in the protocol.

“But there’s another issue in the protocol, and that’s what is in the head and the ideological one, and that’s a far more difficult one to deal with.

“(DUP leader) Jeffrey Donaldson well understands how we might get over the detail, and the reason he keeps on about the other issue is because he’s trying to – which I don’t blame him for – he’s trying to serve the loyalist community as well.”

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Gavin Robinson (Liam McBurney/PA)
DUP MP for East Belfast Gavin Robinson called on Mr Ahern to apologise for his comments.

“To associate East Belfast with a ghetto and suggest loyalists are not able to understand the protocol is demeaning and degrading,” he said.

“People in my constituency who can’t get their Amazon parcels from another part of the United Kingdom well understand the impact of the protocol.

“Rather than belittling those who oppose the protocol, Bertie Ahern should seek to understand why not a single elected unionist in Northern Ireland supports the protocol.

“As a man who was central to the Belfast Agreement being negotiated, Bertie should be honest in recognising that the protocol does alter Northern Ireland’s status within the United Kingdom single market without any consent from people living here.”

Senior DUP MLA Diane Dodds was also critical.

In a post on Twitter, she said: “Coming from the Dublin elite the snide comments in this piece about loyalist communities are despicable.”

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Minister for Foreign Affairs and Defence Simon Coveney (Niall Carson/PA)
Speaking earlier, Foreign Minister Simon Coveney said the EU had offered a comprehensive package to the UK, aimed at easing the implication of the Protocol.

He said: “This package represented a significant compromise for the EU.

“The lack of any evident reciprocal willingness to compromise from our UK partners to date has been deeply disappointing.

“The protocol was agreed by Lord Frost and Prime Minister Johnson, approved by this British government and ratified by the current UK Parliament.

“They have a duty to deliver on their commitments.

“It is very important we do not lose sight of the goal here, ensuring an outcome that is best for the people of Northern Ireland.”
Ahern represented the north inner city and must be considered an expert on ghettoes. The fact the NIHE paid him to speak would be seen by him as flattering.

I'd hazard a guess that the bumbling halfwit is still banking on being nominated for the Presidency, doing anything to remain in the spotlight...a bit like Bono.

He hopes we'll have forgotten how he brought the nation to it's knees faster than a crackhead being promised a fiver for a blowjob.

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2554 on: November 19, 2021, 02:45:06 pm »
Electioneering Bullett reminding the Republican wing of the party they are safe with FF they can continue to hate Prods and refuse to drink Harp .

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2555 on: November 19, 2021, 03:02:33 pm »
Electioneering Bullett reminding the Republican wing of the party they are safe with FF they can continue to hate Prods and refuse to drink Harp .

And Sally O'Brien and the way she might look at ye:


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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2556 on: November 21, 2021, 10:36:55 am »
He said: “I spend a lot of my life still in the North. The reality is in East Belfast and in the GHETTOS  and in the areas where you’re likely to get trouble, is that people haven’t got a clue about the protocol, not a clue.
Bertie is Spot-on in what he says, but in today's Snowflake age, you just can't say thing's like that.

The North is a Tinderbox waiting to blow, and Blow it will in the fullness of time,
if not over this then they will find something else, it would seem they really do want Peace up there !

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Re: The Brexodus
« Reply #2557 on: November 21, 2021, 10:57:29 am »
KEN Look at the USA you can now go hunting blacks with assault rifles before you are 18.Britain is Broken Trump and Boris dont give a fuck they are playing to the crowd .If Boris gets into trouble in Britain he will sacrifice the North to be able to blame the EU when he orders British troops on to the streets of Britain to shoot British Citizens .Have you notice no more talk about fuel shortages or shortage of HGV drivers .That smoke screen has passed .That was the cover for Boris trying to save his mate for fiddling .The Protests in Holland at Roterdam ,Europes biggest Port could lead to more shortages for the EU and Borisland .Macron is another Popularist he will stir the shit over Fish as he has an election to win .The People in Ulster Says No will be used as cannon fodder .

 


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