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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: dublin2018 on March 23, 2019, 09:07:28 pm
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If you are a driver with the TDORA group www.tdora.ie (http://www.tdora.ie) you will qualify for massive savings on Insurance,LYNK ,CAB2000,EXPERT,NATIONAL RADIO CABS and many more.I was wondering why loads of new Bread van Taxis on the road ,Taxi Industry will be saturated.
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If you are a driver with the TDORA group [url=http://www.tdora.ie]www.tdora.ie[/url] ([url]http://www.tdora.ie[/url]) you will qualify for massive savings on Insurance,LYNK ,CAB2000,EXPERT,NATIONAL RADIO CABS and many more.I was wondering why loads of new Bread van Taxis on the road ,Taxi Industry will be saturated.
its all bollox .There are some corporate policies around where drivers pool their NCB it suits drivers who are high points or had accidents but I spoke a few years ago to a broker if you decide to leave the policy you have no personal NCB as you surrendered it to the pooled insurance .Is this what you are talking about if so be carefull you could be subsidizing somebody elses insurance and risking your own
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If you are a driver with the TDORA group [url=http://www.tdora.ie]www.tdora.ie[/url] ([url]http://www.tdora.ie[/url]) you will qualify for massive savings on Insurance,LYNK ,CAB2000,EXPERT,NATIONAL RADIO CABS and many more.I was wondering why loads of new Bread van Taxis on the road ,Taxi Industry will be saturated.
its all bollox .There are some corporate policies around where drivers pool their NCB it suits drivers who are high points or had accidents but I spoke a few years ago to a broker if you decide to leave the policy you have no personal NCB as you surrendered it to the pooled insurance .Is this what you are talking about if so be carefull you could be subsidizing somebody elses insurance and risking your own
No John, that’s not what he is talking about at all. Members of TDORA have manage dreams to get a company to give their drivers discounts on insurance. Zero is the name of the company that’s doing the insurance.
The high cost of insurance was keeping some out of the business but now that’s taken away there will be millions driving taxis
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Insurance seems to have come down in the last year or two, regardless. New entrants invariably work for mytaxi and are enticed by it's free training and bonuses (I think someone said it's 3 large now) for passing the exam. Interestingly, Liberty is the only firm that asks if you work for mytaxi before quoting rates of up to treble the market norm.
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New taxi Insurance Co, worth a try, report back if near renewal ? Sounds great if it's all true and they're not Maltese and dodgy.
https://www.zego.com/ (https://www.zego.com/)
https://www.zego.com/ie/ (https://www.zego.com/ie/)
https://www.lobbying.ie/organisation/1365/tdora (https://www.lobbying.ie/organisation/1365/tdora)
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I'd be inclined to tell TDORA to go and fuk themselves.One of their lobbying submissions from the 30 of January mentions a chronic shortage of taxi drivers.These guys aren't our friends any more than Uber or Mytaxi.Why would we give them our money.I'd prefer to pay a few hundred extra to Axa than have these pricks flood the place with drivers again.
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Its like mytaxi asking existing drivers to advertise for MORE drivers,its laughable
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I believe it only works if you're working for a TDORA company and are being tracked by the radio company's computer software - so they know when you're working.
But, what happens if you just pick up a fare on the street and not through the radio? No cover if not tracked by the software?
I'm worried about the tax man too. If it's all tracked through the computer systems, how long until the government asks for information to be shared like they did with Airbnb?
I fear the old agage of if it looks too good to be true then it usually may apply but I'd love to be proved wrong - cheap insurance would be welcomed by all.
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Not working, not insured? No S+D cover? Doesn't sound righf. Renewal notice from Allianz next week so will give ZEGO a call and report back.
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Do report back. Prices sound great but heard a few worrying things re bonus protection, 14% interest on direct debit - in addition to prior concerns! After being burnt too many times need to keep our eyes wide open
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I called TDORA got a guy from Belfast ,He asked was i a TDORA member,I said no,I asked who are members ?,he said Google it ,He said they check that you are working with the members before they quote me.I wouldn't pay a cab company 5K/6K a year for a insurance discount.I wonder who under rights the policy?
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Just in case yis didn't open the links on Lobbying.ie these lads have made 9 lobbying submissions to the department of transport and more specifically Shane Ross himself.Most are about changing PSV regulations and mention 'chronic shortages' of taxis.
These chaps have zero interest in helping existing drivers but need new guys to drive their rentals and pay freight.I know I'm just stating the obvious but sometimes it's needed..without a fresh batch of idiots paying rent they start to fade away.
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Paying for a radio to get an insurance discount is madness is you ask me.
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These cunts state there is a cronic shortage of taxis ??? Are they having a laugh ,???-there is STILL far to many taxis.the people driving this is the likes of Kearns,Kelly,Ebbs,they want more taxis operating,and that will be the result of all this is you sign up for this insurance
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Not enough taxis rofl Here's a screenshot from this morning. This is just MyTaxi vehicles - about 40% empty?
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2dq29w.png)
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Its just these radio companies cunts trying to get the NTA to issue more licences
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I called TDORA got a guy from Belfast ,He asked was i a TDORA member,I said no,I asked who are members ?,he said Google it ,He said they check that you are working with the members before they quote me.I wouldn't pay a cab company 5K/6K a year for a insurance discount.I wonder who under rights the policy?
mytaxi's best drivers pay the guts of €20,000/year freight.... for a little perspective. At least one insurer (Liberty) severely penalises drivers for working for mytaxi.
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(€20,000 freight/12%)*100=€167,000p.a.
€167k/365 days = €458 per day, every day?
Really? Or is my maths wrong?
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No its just rat stirring it up against mytaxi in favour of his buddy in swords main street
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With the exception of EBBs, because he has the dominant taxi rental fleet, I beleive that the other despatchers are in trouble unless the do something fast, and even then I think that it's too late. They were too slow to develop a good app, and even now, if they had a good one, the number of drivers that they have are not sufficient to provide good coverage and customer satisfaction. One of their apps is already getting slated on Playstore. A big grouping together of the remaining despatch companies with a good app, and expensive marketing, would still probably not provide customer satisfaction, unless the package was extremely attractive to drivers. Have the vested interests in the various despatch companies the capacity for unity/takeovers, or are they just funding their pensions for as long as the biz lasts?
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The only way I can see any of these cunts surviving is to allow drivers to take a stake in their companies,treat drivers drivers.not as employees but as equals,allow drivers to have a real imput into how things are run,but I do agree,and I hope you are right when you say its to late for them
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This morning was absolutely dead.
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The only way I can see any of these cunts surviving is to allow drivers to take a stake in their companies,treat drivers drivers.not as employees but as equals,allow drivers to have a real imput into how things are run,but I do agree,and I hope you are right when you say its to late for them
I think the cooperative idea was tried before....no 2 drivers do the same hours; earn the same money, etc..the investment required is too low for any of them to care enough. I'd say a certain man is only biding his time in the game probably in the hope someone is coming to buy him out. Mytaxi is the safest option for many in these times but we all know their goal/mission.
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Problem with them is lippy,they are actually asking their drivers to recruit MORE fukking drivers for them,but they are doing this openly,while the sneakey bastard radio companys are living up to their well deserved reputations of trying to sneak them in in their usual devious way
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Maybe the despatch companies should change their price structure.Charging a set amount plus in many cases a percentage of account work is just far too expensive.I still think they have a place but just not where they used to be.Loadsa lads working less hours like myself could never get the value out of paying for a radio.Some months I work a bit and some months I work a lot.
There's one of Lynk's newly bought places close to me gaff and in the mornings you'd see customers waiting outside the base for taxis to turn up,they're always looking for new drivers.The reason they're waiting is because many drivers have switched to Mytaxi.They switched because they didn't wanna pay a set freight or deal with base controllers.I've been told the drivers still offer fiver local jobs to regulars, this is in Dublin not some culchie village.Ya can't get on the bus for less than two quid.
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As I've always said,middle men are not needed in this industry.people will be happy to walk outside their door and get a taxi in real time,rather then sitting on their couch wondering if it will turn up at the promised time of 9 oclock
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People are lazy.Most of the jobs I do everyday could be walked in 30mins or less.
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A word of caution regarding the insurance being touted by this representative body. Firstly let us look at who this body represents. Taxi despatch operators. Forgive me for being slightly suspicious about their motives. A number of these individuals have only ever acted in their own self interest, which can be argued is how everyone acts. However when these actions damage the industry, thats when we should be concerned.
So is their lower cost insurance being offered to;
(A) help every taxi driver and the industry
(B) to assist them renting out their plates
(C) fill their depleted radio fleet?
My suggestion is it is simply about renting plates and radio income.
Rather than arrest the departure of dissatisfied drivers by examining the real reasons for churn, they look instead at fooling newbies. Keep in mind one of their recommendations to the NTA was new drivers should be forced to align with a base for until they became more experienced. Their concern for new entrants into the industry was either heartwarming or another greasy attempt to extract cash from drivers.
It beggars belief that these fools have remained in business this long.
Thats the background to the great offer. Now lets take a look under the bonnet. We have a history of insurance companies going bang in the night. Quinn, Setanta, Enterprise and Quodos come to mind.
Two points to note here.
First why would you care? The MIBI will cover outstanding claims when an insurer fails, so all is good and no skin off your nose.
True but picture this scenario.
Its been a great morning, 3 airport trips under your belt, a run to Naas and you can see yourself on a high stool by 3pm. News at 1 comes on the radio and you hear a motor insurer with a foreign name has gone into liquidation. You can forget sitting on a high stool or working for at least two weeks.
You are now driving an uninsured vehicle and no longer able to work. You can park it outside your house and hope no one torches it.
Then begins the stress of finding a new insurer. Try getting a NCD letter from a failed insurer (your broker will wring their hands and sympathise but cannot provide the required letter). The limited number of insurers who do cover SPSV will happily pull your chain for a few days and then quote accordingly. Grab your ankles in preparation for that quote. The failure of Enterprise and Quodos/Patrona caused havoc for commercial drivers and led to them getting badly spanked when they had to arrange replacement cover in a hurry.
Under the “freedom of service” rules an insurer in Europe can provide cover here. Enterprise and Quodos (patrona) were prime examples. Operating under Danish and Maltese regulations they sold policies here through brokers. No need to hold enough reserves as required by Irish regulations as EU regs allowed them operate. If it has webbed feet and quacks its most likely a duck so don't go believing its a prize winning stallion.
I would think very very carefully before switching.
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Assuming you don't live in Clare Halll the odds of your car getting torched are extremely low, DD. This crowd seems to specialise in delivery drivers. I'll reserve judgment 'till we hear back from BS but it doesn't strike me as suitable for taxi drivers who aren't necessarily hired through a dispatch firm. Insurance rates have decreased in recent times. However, those of us who work for mytaxi ought to be concerned about what the future may hold. We have all witnessed taxis meandering out of control while drivers are fixated on their telephone screens and the one insurer that does ask if you work for mytaxi (Liberty) seems to apply penalties of up to 200% for those that do. How long before the others follow suit?
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You can't get this cheap insurance unless you drive for the cab companies that are in the group ,It seems to me that its a last attempt to save a sinking ship.I dont work for a Cab company as I couldn't afford to pay up to €5000 freight and commission per annum and as for Mytaxi a maximum of 5 jobs per week.Ive done the maths on Cab companies and Mytaxi and not visible for me .If I do 60 jobs on Mytaxi after commission its always in and around €400 after commission less fuel its a disgrace peanuts.As far as this cheap insurance even at €1000 it still wouldn't be in my interest to signup to TDORA group.Its targeting the new Bread van and Kerb crawling Toyota Prius drivers coming into the industry as fresh meat to fill TDORA groups Taxi rentals
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To all drivers.I sincerely appeal to you to let these radio scumbags sink.please dont save them by joining their underhanded method of getting you to insure with these people.let this be pay back time for the way they have treated you over the years. A lot of the drivers who currently work under their banner,are absolute bullies and scumbags who seem to think independent drivers have no right to operate.this is your chance now.the fact that they have resorted to this,shows the basrards are in real trouble
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Jaysus, 200% loading for those working the app? That might have a serious impact on many people....making liars out of them.
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Assuming you don't live in Clare Halll the odds of your car getting torched are extremely low, DD. This crowd seems to specialise in delivery drivers. I'll reserve judgment 'till we hear back from BS but it doesn't strike me as suitable for taxi drivers who aren't necessarily hired through a dispatch firm. Insurance rates have decreased in recent times. However, those of us who work for mytaxi ought to be concerned about what the future may hold. We have all witnessed taxis meandering out of control while drivers are fixated on their telephone screens and the one insurer that does ask if you work for mytaxi (Liberty) seems to apply penalties of up to 200% for those that do. How long before the others follow suit?
Liberty are right charging penalties on Mytaxi, as drivers are doing serious amount of jobs of it and are at high risk of of road traffic accidents as risk at driving to the job and completing the job is 50% more then a street driver FACT .TDORA are offering full-time insurance not just delivery driver insurance
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(€20,000 freight/12%)*100=€167,000p.a.
€167k/365 days = €458 per day, every day?
Really? Or is my maths wrong?
There's a few ways of working it out, WD.
First, about 5 years ago Hail0 told us it's best drivers pay €240/week. That was before drivers working for the firm were allowed charge PUC and before hospitality charges were introduced. I get offered at least one hospitality job per hour so, if we assume the best drivers work 60 hours and accept half of those fares that's an additional €60/week. If we assume they cover 60 jobs/week that's an additional €15 commission on PUCs. Allowing for an 18% increase in mytaxi's business since it published the €240 freight figure we end up with €361/week or €18,045/year based on a 50 week year.
Second, my freight always exceeds €3/hour. I'm not an ambassador and the only time I might have priority is Sunday/Monday where the whole fleet has it. I don't cover pre-bookings, Airport pick ups, hospitality jobs or anything south of Collins Ave or west of Ballymun Rd - unless it has a destination north of Collins Ave and East of Ballymun Rd. I guess it's safe to assume mytaxi's best drivers are ambassadors, always have priority, maximise their takings (i.e. work anywhere regardless of licences held) and cover pre-bookings, hospitality jobs and Airport pick ups. Based on that assumption they have to be paying significantly more than me. Even at €5/hour they'd be paying €300 for a 60 hour week. Add in €60 hospitality charges and you're back to €360/week.
Third, DM reported no bother averaging in excess of €40/hour over 6 hours on a Thursday. It's safe to assume mytaxi's best drivers are trousering more than him as a non aligned driver. However, to match DMs rate and trouser €2,400 over a 60 hour week they'd have to take €2,727 excluding hospitality fees. That'd put freight at €327.24. Add in €60 hospitality charge and you get €387.24/week or €19,362/year.
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To all drivers.I sincerely appeal to you to let these radio scumbags sink.please dont save them by joining their underhanded method of getting you to insure with these people.let this be pay back time for the way they have treated you over the years. A lot of the drivers who currently work under their banner,are absolute bullies and scumbags who seem to think independent drivers have no right to operate.this is your chance now.the fact that they have resorted to this,shows the basrards are in real trouble
100% TDORA know that Mytaxi are going to flood the taxi industry with Bread van Taxis as they make the Bread vans and makes sense as Mytaxi are Mercedes BMW .
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(€20,000 freight/12%)*100=€167,000p.a.
€167k/365 days = €458 per day, every day?
Really? Or is my maths wrong?
There's a few ways of working it out, WD.
First, about 5 years ago Hail0 told us it's best drivers pay €240/week. That was before drivers working for the firm were allowed charge PUC and before hospitality charges were introduced. I get offered at least one hospitality job per hour so, if we assume the best drivers work 60 hours and accept half of those fares that's an additional €60/week. If we assume they cover 60 jobs/week that's an additional €15 commission on PUCs. Allowing for an 18% increase in mytaxi's business since it published the €240 freight figure we end up with €361/week or €18,045/year based on a 50 week year.
Second, my freight always exceeds €3/hour. I'm not an ambassador and the only time I might have priority is Sunday/Monday where the whole fleet has it. I don't cover pre-bookings, Airport pick ups, hospitality jobs or anything south of Collins Ave or west of Ballymun Rd - unless it has a destination north of Collins Ave and East of Ballymun Rd. I guess it's safe to assume mytaxi's best drivers are ambassadors, always have priority, maximise their takings (i.e. work anywhere regardless of licences held) and cover pre-bookings, hospitality jobs and Airport pick ups. Based on that assumption they have to be paying significantly more than me. Even at €5/hour they'd be paying €300 for a 60 hour week. Add in €60 hospitality charge and you're back to €360/week.
Third, DM reported no bother averaging in excess of €40/hour over 6 hours on a Thursday. It's safe to assume mytaxi's best drivers are trousering more than him as a non aligned driver. However, to match DMs rate and trouser €2,400 over a 60 hour week they'd have to take €2,727 excluding hospitality fees. That'd put fright at €327.24. Add in €60 hospitality charge and you get €387.24/week or €19,362/year.
Bottomline Mytaxi and Cab Companies are Fleecing the drivers and they care about one thing is money not the drivers .If a cab company was competitive and charged realistic prices id consider it.But there all greedy and pick away at drivers minimum income
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No its just rat stirring it up against mytaxi in favour of his buddy in swords main street
Anthony isn't a buddy of mine. I don't even work for him these days, I work for mytaxi. However, when I did work for C2K I always found him to be decent, honest and fair. During the Celtic Tiger years we were paying €80/week including all bribes to hotels, pubs, car hire return sheds, etc... and we could work as many hours as we wanted. The work was all full-fare including PUC on base pick ups. In short, we were paying a damn sight less than drivers are now paying mytaxi and we were taking a damn sight more. We even got free uniforms... decent quality shirts (Fruit Of The Loom) included.
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'If I do 60 jobs on Mytaxi after commission its always in and around €400 after commission less fuel '
Either you're driving a V8,or your sums are wrong.
60 jobs going nowhere pays you over 300.
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lol This is a lively aul place at times.
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Here rat ,what do you mean you could work as many hours as you like ,? Of course you could work as many hours as you like,your self employed aint ya ? or are you telling me these radio scumbags also regulate drivers hours ???
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So, the best drivers are probably doing closer to 240 jobs/week, VD? In that case the first computation would need to be modified to add €58 instead of €15 to account for PUC. That'd make weekly freight €402.
I mean you could work as many hours as you wanted for the same price i.e. €80/week, DM. Working for mytaxi you pay a % of every fare (12%) plus a €2 surcharge on "hospitality" jobs so, while it might suit part-timers like myself, the full-time professionals who need the job to feed their families and all are paying through the nose.
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Come on now rat,tell us ffs how much is Kelly paying ya to keep on singing his praises ?
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It's all fact, DM... nothing the men don't already know.
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'If I do 60 jobs on Mytaxi after commission its always in and around €400 after commission less fuel '
Either you're driving a V8,or your sums are wrong.
60 jobs going nowhere pays you over 300.
Fuel is a major factor .I drive 1.5 diesel ,but yes i never factored in insurance and wear and tear 60 jobs at say over 500 less fuel and there 12% commission its right.Im being honest i couldn't afford to do Mytaxi as i was making less money.Ive tried and tested it.Maximum id do a week off it would be 5 jobs turn on when going home.Id rather hunt my full fare work that i paid to seal a meter for and massive insurance.
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I average 15 euro per mytaxi job.What are you doing wrong?
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(€20,000 freight/12%)*100=€167,000p.a.
€167k/365 days = €458 per day, every day?
Really? Or is my maths wrong?
There's a few ways of working it out, WD.
First, about 5 years ago Hail0 told us it's best drivers pay €240/week. That was before drivers working for the firm were allowed charge PUC and before hospitality charges were introduced. I get offered at least one hospitality job per hour so, if we assume the best drivers work 60 hours and accept half of those fares that's an additional €60/week. If we assume they cover 60 jobs/week that's an additional €15 commission on PUCs. Allowing for an 18% increase in mytaxi's business since it published the €240 freight figure we end up with €361/week or €18,045/year based on a 50 week year.
Second, my freight always exceeds €3/hour. I'm not an ambassador and the only time I might have priority is Sunday/Monday where the whole fleet has it. I don't cover pre-bookings, Airport pick ups, hospitality jobs or anything south of Collins Ave or west of Ballymun Rd - unless it has a destination north of Collins Ave and East of Ballymun Rd. I guess it's safe to assume mytaxi's best drivers are ambassadors, always have priority, maximise their takings (i.e. work anywhere regardless of licences held) and cover pre-bookings, hospitality jobs and Airport pick ups. Based on that assumption they have to be paying significantly more than me. Even at €5/hour they'd be paying €300 for a 60 hour week. Add in €60 hospitality charges and you're back to €360/week.
Third, DM reported no bother averaging in excess of €40/hour over 6 hours on a Thursday. It's safe to assume mytaxi's best drivers are trousering more than him as a non aligned driver. However, to match DMs rate and trouser €2,400 over a 60 hour week they'd have to take €2,727 excluding hospitality fees. That'd put freight at €327.24. Add in €60 hospitality charge and you get €387.24/week or €19,362/year.
I can see what you're saying but I'm not sure I agree. You're taking best case scenario's and assuming they apply 24/7/365.
Even at e300/wk (not incl hospitality), that's e125k gross/annum. Say e100k after freight. If MT had even one driver earning that much, they'd be shouting from the rooftops about it. There'd be a queue of newbies banging down their doors if they promised even half that as a 'salary'.
Earning e40/hr? Town to Airport is approx e20. You'd have to drive from town to the airport and immediately back into town again to get e40/hr. Repeat town/DAP/town/DAP/town/DAP for 10hrs/day for 6 days (60hr/wk)... With one day off... Every week for 50 weeks to maintain an average e40/hr. Nobody could drive that much and stay sane/healthy?
Back in the recession days, the Goodbody(?) report had 70%(approx) earning/grossing less than 30k/year. Technology's great 'n all that but I doubt things have improved *that* much?
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'If I do 60 jobs on Mytaxi after commission its always in and around €400 after commission less fuel '
Either you're driving a V8,or your sums are wrong.
60 jobs going nowhere pays you over 300.
Fuel is a major factor .I drive 1.5 diesel ,but yes i never factored in insurance and wear and tear 60 jobs at say over 500 less fuel and there 12% commission its right.Im being honest i couldn't afford to do Mytaxi as i was making less money.Ive tried and tested it.Maximum id do a week off it would be 5 jobs turn on when going home.Id rather hunt my full fare work that i paid to seal a meter for and massive insurance.
Average fair with MyTaxi is €16 according to them so 60*€16 equals €960 minus 115 for commission, and let’s throw in about 10 hospitality jobs so another 20 gone, fuel about 100
So you’re left with about 725.
Now if you can’t make that work for you, you must be doing something totally absurd and maybe you shouldn’t be driving a taxi
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Our fares are up and thanks to the traffic I rarely get to the airport for a score anymore.There are Ambassador lads out there only taking the juicy work off the screens leaving the crap for the rest of us.
I was free up in Clonskeagh a few weeks ago and parked up at Paddy Power.Two lads came out going to the Airport but I decided not to rob the job.Along comes some Eastern European chap Ambassador van and takes the lads away.Everytime I see his van he's full and either on the way to another.Saw him dropping at the Airport today too.If you watch the screens the decent work only stays on it for three seconds then it's gone.The software is rigged to feed the hungry lads.40 an hour might not be too far off the mark for the chosen few.
I remember chatting to one of the regulars on the Dundrum rank and he said during the tiger years it wouldn't be unusual to get two or three Airports a day from Dundrum Shopping center.Folks doing their shopping before their holidays.I'm sure if you covered Southside your 40 an hour average could be done easier.
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Our fares are up and thanks to the traffic I rarely get to the airport for a score anymore.There are Ambassador lads out there only taking the juicy work off the screens leaving the crap for the rest of us.
I was free up in Clonskeagh a few weeks ago and parked up at Paddy Power.Two lads came out going to the Airport but I decided not to rob the job.Along comes some Eastern European chap Ambassador van and takes the lads away.Everytime I see his van he's full and either on the way to another.Saw him dropping at the Airport today too.If you watch the screens the decent work only stays on it for three seconds then it's gone.The software is rigged to feed the hungry lads.40 an hour might not be too far off the mark for the chosen few.
I remember chatting to one of the regulars on the Dundrum rank and he said during the tiger years it wouldn't be unusual to get two or three Airports a day from Dundrum Shopping center.Folks doing their shopping before their holidays.I'm sure if you covered Southside your 40 an hour average could be done easier.
Absolutely MFH, but these lads think nothing of doing a Power Tower to the airport, then driving back across to do another Power Tower 90-120 minutes later.
I don’t do the precooked usually, unless it’s a priority one.
I’d rather do a job to the airport and see what I can get while heading back into the big schmoke.
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Average fair with MyTaxi is €16 according to them so 60*€16 equals €960 minus 115 for commission, and let’s throw in about 10 hospitality jobs so another 20 gone, fuel about 100
So you’re left with about 725.
Now if you can’t make that work for you, you must be doing something totally absurd and maybe you shouldn’t be driving a taxi
60hrs/week... There's the somewhat slippery rule about not being allowed to work 11hr/s per day over a 3 day period. So 60hrs could be either 12hr x 5 days or 10hr x 6 days or something similar. Can a person really drive those hours every week for 50 weeks a year. For 5 years? For 10 years? I doubt it?
And people quoting 30-40euro/hr, can you realistically make that money every hour of every day over a year? 11am on a Tues morn or 11pm on a Tues night?
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I got a job on saturday night to a place called blackrock in county louth ,nice little run.I didnt know there were 2 blackrocks
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Average fair with MyTaxi is €16 according to them so 60*€16 equals €960 minus 115 for commission, and let’s throw in about 10 hospitality jobs so another 20 gone, fuel about 100
So you’re left with about 725.
Now if you can’t make that work for you, you must be doing something totally absurd and maybe you shouldn’t be driving a taxi
60hrs/week... There's the somewhat slippery rule about not being allowed to work 11hr/s per day over a 3 day period. So 60hrs could be either 12hr x 5 days or 10hr x 6 days or something similar. Can a person really drive those hours every week for 50 weeks a year. For 5 years? For 10 years? I doubt it?
And people quoting 30-40euro/hr, can you realistically make that money every hour of every day over a year? 11am on a Tues morn or 11pm on a Tues night?
60 jobs not 60 hours, but I suppose you would need to do a lot of hours to get 60 jobs.
And yes a driver could do 10 hour days, over 6 days which is 60 hours. Doesn’t leave much time for anything else when you take 8 hours of sleeping into account.
Restrictions on taxi drivers do state 3, 11 hours shifts consecutively, and then a break, it doesn’t say I can’t do 10 hours on Thursday and then 2, 18 hour shift on a Friday and Saturday night, take Sunday off.
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'If I do 60 jobs on Mytaxi after commission its always in and around €400 after commission less fuel '
Either you're driving a V8,or your sums are wrong.
60 jobs going nowhere pays you over 300.
Fuel is a major factor .I drive 1.5 diesel ,but yes i never factored in insurance and wear and tear 60 jobs at say over 500 less fuel and there 12% commission its right.Im being honest i couldn't afford to do Mytaxi as i was making less money.Ive tried and tested it.Maximum id do a week off it would be 5 jobs turn on when going home.Id rather hunt my full fare work that i paid to seal a meter for and massive insurance.
Average fair with MyTaxi is €16 according to them so 60*€16 equals €960 minus 115 for commission, and let’s throw in about 10 hospitality jobs so another 20 gone, fuel about 100
So you’re left with about 725.
Now if you can’t make that work for you, you must be doing something totally absurd and maybe you shouldn’t be driving a taxi
You said according to them !!!!Mytaxi doesn't work for me as ,i work the street and dont drive to jobs.I hunt.I dont rely on apps for work
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I'd be inclined to tell TDORA to go and fuk themselves.One of their lobbying submissions from the 30 of January mentions a chronic shortage of taxi drivers.These guys aren't our friends any more than Uber or Mytaxi.Why would we give them our money.I'd prefer to pay a few hundred extra to Axa than have these pricks flood the place with drivers again.
Very wise word Merco San..
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'If I do 60 jobs on Mytaxi after commission its always in and around €400 after commission less fuel '
Either you're driving a V8,or your sums are wrong.
60 jobs going nowhere pays you over 300.
Fuel is a major factor .I drive 1.5 diesel ,but yes i never factored in insurance and wear and tear 60 jobs at say over 500 less fuel and there 12% commission its right.Im being honest i couldn't afford to do Mytaxi as i was making less money.Ive tried and tested it.Maximum id do a week off it would be 5 jobs turn on when going home.Id rather hunt my full fare work that i paid to seal a meter for and massive insurance.
Average fair with MyTaxi is €16 according to them so 60*€16 equals €960 minus 115 for commission, and let’s throw in about 10 hospitality jobs so another 20 gone, fuel about 100
So you’re left with about 725.
Now if you can’t make that work for you, you must be doing something totally absurd and maybe you shouldn’t be driving a taxi
You said according to them !!!!Mytaxi doesn't work for me as ,i work the street and dont drive to jobs.I hunt.I dont rely on apps for work
And according to me,and I actually use mytaxi am not a big spoofer,like yourself.
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I got a job on saturday night to a place called blackrock in county louth ,nice little run.I didnt know there were 2 blackrocks
At least 3.......one in Cork also....2 Drumcondras at least........Dundrums also....
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There's a Tallaght in the north.
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Of course we're talking best case scenario, WD... it's their "best drivers". I discussed their shouting the €240/week freight from the rooftops with the bosses when I met them a few years back. They seemed to agree that publishing numbers relevant to drivers earnings wasn't necessarily helpful. Since that they have been more conservative. Regardless, my freight is always over €3/hour so it stands to reason that an ambassador who always has priority and who covers all areas, hospitality jobs, pre-bookings and airport pick ups is paying significantly more. By point of fact I don't work peak hours save 19:00-20:00 Saturday and sometimes 01:00-03:00 Sunday. Factoring that in, I can't see how the best drivers could be paying less than €5/hour before hospitality surcharges.
However, my basic point is that full-time drivers working for mytaxi are paying a hell of a lot more freight during this boom than I paid to C2K during the Celtic Tiger years. In fact, I have paid more myself for a 30 hour week working for mytaxi than I paid for as many hours as I wanted/needed to work with C2K. Obviously, run ins are much shorter with C2K and they have (or had) a base controller who can/could help you maximise takings with jobs on the way to jobs and such like so we were also taking significantly more than is possible with mytaxi. For example, back in 2007 morning bookings (after a busy night) were easily worth €60/hour working for C2k... eleven years on I'd imagine drivers would struggle to get €45/hour out of them with mytaxi's system.
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I got a job on saturday night to a place called blackrock in county louth ,nice little run.I didnt know there were 2 blackrocks
There's at least three, DM. There's one up above in Dublin (just past Booterstown) as well.
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According to the EU speed limiters and black boxes to be fit to new cars after 2023 .
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However, my basic point is that full-time drivers working for mytaxi are paying a hell of a lot more freight during this boom than I paid to C2K during the Celtic Tiger years.
@RC, I agree.
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Insurance hikes have serious knock-on effects. Poor little kiddies might have to entertain themselves now......
https://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/were-absolutely-heartbroken-dozens-of-jobs-lost-as-play-centres-forced-to-close-over-300pc-insurance-hike-37957163.html (https://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/were-absolutely-heartbroken-dozens-of-jobs-lost-as-play-centres-forced-to-close-over-300pc-insurance-hike-37957163.html)
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Within ten years you will have a black box and they will do away with fuel tax and motor tax you will pay a road use charge that will vary between a few euro a mile and free depending on what road and what time you travel at .The black box will record everything from speed direction and location .In our case this data can be read to discover our taxable revenue .Its progress ,sure its going to be great .As I said before if I was under 40 I would not depend on this job for 100% of my salary .
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Erm, ya said that ten years ago..the black box will be the robot taxi driver problem.
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Black Box............great group.
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Black Box............great group.
Yeah Nice , lot of baldy ones around now
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Erm, ya said that ten years ago..the black box will be the robot taxi driver problem.
Picked up a fella from the UK a few years ago he was giving a presentation to Noel Dempsey on Road Pricing in the Four Seasons .I think it was no coincidence that Fat Tonys Scam where he was offering investors a chance to buy in was discovered shortly after that presentation ..
The idea is every road has a different price at different times for usage bit like congestion charge except every road has a price per mile .Imrural Ireland where there is no alternate transport the cost might be a cent a mile but O Connell street might be a dollar a mile .Part of the idea is to offer alternative cheaper routs at peak time that would allow them control congestion by pricing drivers away from busy areas .Just look at the data on your google map after a shift it can show where you have been .Metaxi systemcan do the math by dividing the PUT and the DOT then divide by the distance they can work out your speed .You use to be able on the Hailo app to see how long it took you from accepting the job to hitting arrived how far you traveled and how fast .The tech is there its just about Government doing the sums .Will road pricing generate more revenue than road tax or Fuel Duty . IF IF we go all electric motoring then there will have to be a way to make up for lost fuel duty from motoring Road Pricing fits the bill .
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Doesn't bother me as I'll be passing the cost on to the passenger.If I didn't need a car for work I'd have a bicycle anyway.
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Doesn't bother me as I'll be passing the cost on to the passenger.If I didn't need a car for work I'd have a bicycle anyway.
will you still be driving in 10 years .
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Yes probably, might not be a taxi though..Only if I can find a job that requires less hours for the same money/investment.
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Up with Big Dommos sisters husbands sister yesterday lad washes the windows charges a tenner then somebody else cuts the grass front and back 15 yoyo.She got the gutters front and back done a few weeks ago 80 yoyo she recons its over a ton to get the chimney cleaned .seems to be a handy few quid out there to be earned .
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Do they take away the cuttings after the lawn is done?
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Do they take away the cuttings after the lawn is done?
jeh then dump it in the lane .
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Up with Big Dommos sisters husbands sister yesterday lad washes the windows charges a tenner then somebody else cuts the grass front and back 15 yoyo.She got the gutters front and back done a few weeks ago 80 yoyo she recons its over a ton to get the chimney cleaned .seems to be a handy few quid out there to be earned .
Itinerants ? Do they update you on the missing/broken roof tiles also ?
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I was looking into getting a proper upholstery steam dry cleaning unit .With all the Suitability changes how long before dirty seats will fail and how long before suitability becomes part of all NCTs .20 or 30 yoyo to clean seats with drivers coming to you .Nice little earner for the semi involved taxi driver .
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Wouldn't suit you John..............you'd be 3 hours doing 1 jammer with all the talking and internetting you do...
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I was looking into getting a proper upholstery steam dry cleaning unit .With all the Suitability changes how long before dirty seats will fail and how long before suitability becomes part of all NCTs .20 or 30 yoyo to clean seats with drivers coming to you .Nice little earner for the semi involved taxi driver .
Thanks for the tip John, Oh by the way its too late for you I'm starting this today rofl
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If they were basically almost dry after the clean, you'd be on to something.The crowd I used last time left the seats so wet that I was off work for 2 days.
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If they were basically almost dry after the clean, you'd be on to something.The crowd I used last time left the seats so wet that I was off work for 2 days.
You sure it wasn't the customers soilage ?
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If they were basically almost dry after the clean, you'd be on to something.The crowd I used last time left the seats so wet that I was off work for 2 days.
I looked at a DRY cleaning unit nearly 3K plus u had to use cleaning fluids .You would need to be getting 30 per job at least .If I was doing it it would be vanity only cleaning seats and headliners not interested in cleaning puke .
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Dirty seats are already a suitability fail...
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Seeing as it cost me 4 ton in lost wages,30 sounds cheap
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Hot water and laundry liquid, erm.
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My front passanger seat ,which is only lether seat cover is all worn ,and doesnt look great is that a fail ,,?
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Renewal quote with current insurer, €3030. Zego €1760, have to clarify if it includes NCDP. Work cover and social domestic are covered,(social domestic is a legal rerquirement for all policies). Not covered to drive any other car, even a rental yoke if you are off the road, insurance not transferable, breakdown tow not currently available, but they ,are working on providing same. Finance available with 15% up front and 11% simple interest on the balance over 9 months. Your NCD stays with you, and you have to be with a traditional despatcher. They may, in the future introduce a 2 tier type of policy as they have for say, Deliveroo in the UK, whereby you have your social domestic quote, and then your hourly work insurance clocks on/off as you log on/off to the system
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Was asked had I any claims against anothe driver, and he confirmed that there are 3 categories of driver for initial premium quote. 1. Driver with no claims, 2. Driver with an accident not his fault, and claimed from other party who's insurance paid up.3. Driver who claimed for an "own fault" accident. In my case, being category 2, he said that it didn't affect my premium "that much".
I believe that category 2 caused my current insurance to go from €2500 to €3000 upon renewal in 2018
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If they were basically almost dry after the clean, you'd be on to something.The crowd I used last time left the seats so wet that I was off work for 2 days.
Just turn the engine on, blast the heat and they’ll be dry in about 4 hours
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My front passanger seat ,which is only lether seat cover is all worn ,and doesnt look great is that a fail ,,?
Highest item for fail is seat covers as per their list in the waiting room. Know a guy who failed in a 171 Suberb, because his seat cover was torn, even though he had pristine original seats underneath. If he had his seats covered in a cheap new set of covers on the day of the test he was told that he would have passed.
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Does it depend on who you get,or are they all pricks?
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^^^^BS that quote is similar to my current AXA policy quote.I have no bonus protection and it's not comprehensive.Break down cover is removed.Policy is only transferable with a phonecall to AXA.My wife went on my policy recently for no extra charge.
I'd say anyone could get that Zego policy without being aligned to a dispatcher.
I suppose the best thing you could do is use it as a bargaining tool to get a better deal off your current insurer.
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^^^^BS that quote is similar to my current AXA policy quote.I have no bonus protection and it's not comprehensive.Break down cover is removed.Policy is only transferable with a phonecall to AXA.My wife went on my policy recently for no extra charge.
I'd say anyone could get that Zego policy without being aligned to a dispatcher.
I suppose the best thing you could do is use it as a bargaining tool to get a better deal off your current insurer.
Mmm,,the Zego quote is full comprehensive. Insurance is no transferable regardless of phone calls. He mentioned a 30 day policy, but for taxi you have to own the plate. €3k down to €1.8 would be a big drop for my current insurers.
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Their aim is to insure the gig economy .So if UBER Rideshare comes in then you can buy insurance from them that will insure you while you drive for reward .This is what they mean by you must be with a dispatcher ....https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/pay-as-you-go-insurer-for-gig-economy-enters-irish-market-1.3636251 (https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/pay-as-you-go-insurer-for-gig-economy-enters-irish-market-1.3636251)
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^^^^BS that quote is similar to my current AXA policy quote.I have no bonus protection and it's not comprehensive.Break down cover is removed.Policy is only transferable with a phonecall to AXA.My wife went on my policy recently for no extra charge.
I'd say anyone could get that Zego policy without being aligned to a dispatcher.
I suppose the best thing you could do is use it as a bargaining tool to get a better deal off your current insurer.
No - it has to be via a dispatcher as they track how much your driving by the software used! I worry about the Taxman in these cases
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If they're insuring Uber drivers and private hire in the UK surely they could open it up to Mytaxi aligned drivers or just street drivers.Do ya not have to just log in on an app using thier pay as you go system?
That clause about the dispatchers doesn't make much sense.I put my age and number of claim free driving years with a London postcode into their quotation site and it came back at about 1100 sterling for TPF+T.That's only a few hundred cheaper than my existing quote with less features.
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Yours seems high to be honest, BS. Mine was €2,024 with BJP in January including interest, would have been €1,920 if I paid up front as I usually do. That includes about €700 for "NCD Protection".
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Their aim is to insure the gig economy .So if UBER Rideshare comes in then you can buy insurance from them that will insure you while you drive for reward .This is what they mean by you must be with a dispatcher ....https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/pay-as-you-go-insurer-for-gig-economy-enters-irish-market-1.3636251 (https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/pay-as-you-go-insurer-for-gig-economy-enters-irish-market-1.3636251)
What if mytaxi/nowFREE Rideshare comes in?
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My front passanger seat ,which is only lether seat cover is all worn ,and doesnt look great is that a fail ,,?
I put cheap seat covers on my two front leatherette seats for the day of the test. It's gotten me through the last few years. I was a bit worried this year. The tester seemed very eager. Came out with a clipboard 'n everything!
I also have a rip on my leatherette backseat but a bit of shoe polish hides the white foam underneath. I have to remember to clean it off afterwards before a passenger gets in though!
As far as I know, the 2 front seat covers have to match but they don't have to match the back seat covers. Worked for me the last few years. YMMV.
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Yours seems high to be honest, BS. Mine was €2,024 with BJP in January including interest, would have been €1,920 if I paid up front as I usually do. That includes about €700 for "NCD Protection".
My current insurers won't drop from €3k, Liberty or AXA won't quote if over 5 points ( even thoughI lose them all over the next 6 months). Looks like €1756 including NCBD is too good to refuse.
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Yours seems high to be honest, BS. Mine was €2,024 with BJP in January including interest, would have been €1,920 if I paid up front as I usually do. That includes about €700 for "NCD Protection".
My current insurers won't drop from €3k, Liberty or AXA won't quote if over 5 points ( even thoughI lose them all over the next 6 months). Looks like €1756 including NCBD is too good to refuse.
Read the small print ..What Im getting from this is ,They insure you as in anybody licenced or unlicenced to carry passengers for reward and you need to be covering a dispatch job to avail of their cover .This looks like a get out of jail insurer for UBER or METAXI Private RIDESHARE as long as they dispatch your taxi work to their private fleets .
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If you give back the radio your insurance becomes Null & Void I heard
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You obviously have 6+ penalty points then, BS. In that case the premium seems reasonable. IMO there should be a surcharge of €1,270 per point with monies raised used to lower premiums for drivers who observe the rules of the road.
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If you give back the radio your insurance becomes Null & Void I heard
MIBI would have something to say about that. In general, insurance companies always want to allocate a claim to a paid up policy, even if that means overlooking a bit of small print here and there.
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Go ask me bollix!
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Look on the bright side... when your points expire you will avail of significantly cheaper insurance. That might inspire you to take your job seriously and operate your car in accordance with the rules of the road, thereby providing a much safer and more professional service to your clients and significantly reducing the danger you pose to other road users.