Cheap taxi insurance if you part of TDORA

[watty]

(€20,000 freight/12%)*100=€167,000p.a.

€167k/365 days = €458 per day, every day?

Really? Or is my maths wrong?

There's a few ways of working it out, WD.

First, about 5 years ago Hail0 told us it's best drivers pay €240/week. That was before drivers working for the firm were allowed charge PUC and before hospitality charges were introduced. I get offered at least one hospitality job per hour so, if we assume the best drivers work 60 hours and accept half of those fares that's an additional €60/week. If we assume they cover 60 jobs/week that's an additional €15 commission on PUCs. Allowing for an 18% increase in mytaxi's business since it published the €240 freight figure we end up with €361/week or €18,045/year based on a 50 week year.

Second, my freight always exceeds €3/hour. I'm not an ambassador and the only time I might have priority is Sunday/Monday where the whole fleet has it. I don't cover pre-bookings, Airport pick ups, hospitality jobs or anything south of Collins Ave or west of Ballymun Rd - unless it has a destination north of Collins Ave and East of Ballymun Rd. I guess it's safe to assume mytaxi's best drivers are ambassadors, always have priority, maximise their takings (i.e. work anywhere regardless of licences held) and cover pre-bookings, hospitality jobs and Airport pick ups. Based on that assumption they have to be paying significantly more than me. Even at €5/hour they'd be paying €300 for a 60 hour week. Add in €60 hospitality charges and you're back to €360/week.

Third, DM reported no bother averaging in excess of €40/hour over 6 hours on a Thursday. It's safe to assume mytaxi's best drivers are trousering more than him as a non aligned driver.  However, to match DMs rate and trouser €2,400 over a 60 hour week they'd have to take €2,727 excluding hospitality fees. That'd put freight at €327.24. Add in €60 hospitality charge and you get €387.24/week or €19,362/year.

I can see what you're saying but I'm not sure I agree.  You're taking best case scenario's and assuming they apply 24/7/365.

Even at e300/wk (not incl hospitality), that's e125k gross/annum.  Say e100k after freight.  If MT had even one driver earning that much, they'd be shouting from the rooftops about it.  There'd be a queue of newbies banging down their doors if they promised even half that as a 'salary'.

Earning e40/hr?  Town to Airport is approx e20.  You'd have to drive from town to the airport and immediately back into town again to get e40/hr.  Repeat town/DAP/town/DAP/town/DAP for 10hrs/day for 6 days (60hr/wk)...  With one day off...  Every week for 50 weeks to maintain an average e40/hr.  Nobody could drive that much and stay sane/healthy?

Back in the recession days, the Goodbody(?) report had 70%(approx) earning/grossing less than 30k/year.  Technology's great 'n all that but I doubt things have improved *that* much?

[Vikkiz]

'If I do 60 jobs on Mytaxi after commission  its always in and around €400 after commission less fuel '
Either you're driving a V8,or your sums are wrong.
60 jobs going nowhere pays you over 300.

Fuel is a major factor .I drive 1.5 diesel ,but yes i never factored in insurance and wear and tear 60 jobs at say over 500 less fuel and there 12% commission its right.Im being honest i couldn't afford to do Mytaxi as i was making less money.Ive tried and tested it.Maximum id do a week off it would be 5 jobs turn on when going home.Id rather hunt my full fare work that i paid to seal a meter for and massive insurance.

Average fair with MyTaxi is €16 according to them so 60*€16 equals €960 minus 115 for commission, and let’s throw in about 10 hospitality jobs so another 20 gone, fuel about 100
So you’re left with about 725.

Now if you can’t make that work for you, you must be doing something totally absurd and maybe you shouldn’t be driving a taxi

[mercenary for hire]

Our fares are up and thanks to the traffic I rarely get to the airport for a score anymore.There are Ambassador lads out there only taking the juicy work off the screens leaving the crap for the rest of us.

I was free up in Clonskeagh a few weeks ago and parked up at Paddy Power.Two lads came out going to the Airport but I decided not to rob the job.Along comes some Eastern European chap Ambassador van and takes the lads away.Everytime I see his van he's full and either on the way to another.Saw him dropping at the Airport today too.If you watch the screens the decent work only stays on it for three seconds then it's gone.The software is rigged to feed the hungry lads.40 an hour might not be too far off the mark for the chosen few.

I remember chatting to one of the regulars on the Dundrum rank and he said during the tiger years it wouldn't be unusual to get two or three Airports a day from Dundrum Shopping center.Folks doing their shopping before their holidays.I'm sure if you covered Southside your 40 an hour average could be done easier.

[Vikkiz]

Our fares are up and thanks to the traffic I rarely get to the airport for a score anymore.There are Ambassador lads out there only taking the juicy work off the screens leaving the crap for the rest of us.

I was free up in Clonskeagh a few weeks ago and parked up at Paddy Power.Two lads came out going to the Airport but I decided not to rob the job.Along comes some Eastern European chap Ambassador van and takes the lads away.Everytime I see his van he's full and either on the way to another.Saw him dropping at the Airport today too.If you watch the screens the decent work only stays on it for three seconds then it's gone.The software is rigged to feed the hungry lads.40 an hour might not be too far off the mark for the chosen few.

I remember chatting to one of the regulars on the Dundrum rank and he said during the tiger years it wouldn't be unusual to get two or three Airports a day from Dundrum Shopping center.Folks doing their shopping before their holidays.I'm sure if you covered Southside your 40 an hour average could be done easier.

Absolutely MFH, but these lads think nothing of doing a Power Tower to the airport, then driving back across to do another Power Tower 90-120 minutes later.
I don’t do the precooked usually, unless it’s a priority one.
I’d rather do a job to the airport and see what I can get while heading back into the big schmoke.

[watty]

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Average fair with MyTaxi is €16 according to them so 60*€16 equals €960 minus 115 for commission, and let’s throw in about 10 hospitality jobs so another 20 gone, fuel about 100
So you’re left with about 725.

Now if you can’t make that work for you, you must be doing something totally absurd and maybe you shouldn’t be driving a taxi

60hrs/week... There's the somewhat slippery rule about not being allowed to work 11hr/s per day over a 3 day period.  So 60hrs could be either 12hr x 5 days or 10hr x 6 days or something similar.  Can a person really drive those hours every week for 50 weeks a year.  For 5 years?  For 10 years?  I doubt it?

And people quoting 30-40euro/hr, can you realistically make that money every hour of every day over a year?  11am on a Tues morn or 11pm on a Tues night?

[dalymount]

I got a job on saturday night to a place called blackrock in county louth ,nice little run.I didnt know there were 2 blackrocks

[Vikkiz]

<snip>
Average fair with MyTaxi is €16 according to them so 60*€16 equals €960 minus 115 for commission, and let’s throw in about 10 hospitality jobs so another 20 gone, fuel about 100
So you’re left with about 725.

Now if you can’t make that work for you, you must be doing something totally absurd and maybe you shouldn’t be driving a taxi

60hrs/week... There's the somewhat slippery rule about not being allowed to work 11hr/s per day over a 3 day period.  So 60hrs could be either 12hr x 5 days or 10hr x 6 days or something similar.  Can a person really drive those hours every week for 50 weeks a year.  For 5 years?  For 10 years?  I doubt it?

And people quoting 30-40euro/hr, can you realistically make that money every hour of every day over a year?  11am on a Tues morn or 11pm on a Tues night?

60 jobs not 60 hours, but I suppose you would need to do a lot of hours to get 60 jobs.
And yes a driver could do 10 hour days, over 6 days which is 60 hours. Doesn’t leave much time for anything else when you take 8 hours of sleeping into account.
Restrictions on taxi drivers do state 3, 11 hours shifts consecutively, and then a break, it doesn’t say I can’t do 10 hours on Thursday and then 2, 18 hour shift on a Friday and Saturday night, take Sunday off.

[dublin2018]

'If I do 60 jobs on Mytaxi after commission  its always in and around €400 after commission less fuel '
Either you're driving a V8,or your sums are wrong.
60 jobs going nowhere pays you over 300.

Fuel is a major factor .I drive 1.5 diesel ,but yes i never factored in insurance and wear and tear 60 jobs at say over 500 less fuel and there 12% commission its right.Im being honest i couldn't afford to do Mytaxi as i was making less money.Ive tried and tested it.Maximum id do a week off it would be 5 jobs turn on when going home.Id rather hunt my full fare work that i paid to seal a meter for and massive insurance.

Average fair with MyTaxi is €16 according to them so 60*€16 equals €960 minus 115 for commission, and let’s throw in about 10 hospitality jobs so another 20 gone, fuel about 100
So you’re left with about 725.

Now if you can’t make that work for you, you must be doing something totally absurd and maybe you shouldn’t be driving a taxi

You said according to them !!!!Mytaxi doesn't work for me as ,i work the street and dont drive to jobs.I hunt.I dont rely on apps for work

[Mr phooey]

I'd be inclined to tell TDORA to go and fuk themselves.One of their lobbying submissions from the 30 of January mentions a chronic shortage of taxi drivers.These guys aren't our friends any more than Uber or Mytaxi.Why would we give them our money.I'd prefer to pay a few hundred extra to Axa than have these pricks flood the place with drivers again.

Very wise word Merco San..

[vandriver]

'If I do 60 jobs on Mytaxi after commission  its always in and around €400 after commission less fuel '
Either you're driving a V8,or your sums are wrong.
60 jobs going nowhere pays you over 300.

Fuel is a major factor .I drive 1.5 diesel ,but yes i never factored in insurance and wear and tear 60 jobs at say over 500 less fuel and there 12% commission its right.Im being honest i couldn't afford to do Mytaxi as i was making less money.Ive tried and tested it.Maximum id do a week off it would be 5 jobs turn on when going home.Id rather hunt my full fare work that i paid to seal a meter for and massive insurance.

Average fair with MyTaxi is €16 according to them so 60*€16 equals €960 minus 115 for commission, and let’s throw in about 10 hospitality jobs so another 20 gone, fuel about 100
So you’re left with about 725.

Now if you can’t make that work for you, you must be doing something totally absurd and maybe you shouldn’t be driving a taxi

You said according to them !!!!Mytaxi doesn't work for me as ,i work the street and dont drive to jobs.I hunt.I dont rely on apps for work

And according to me,and I actually use mytaxi am not a big spoofer,like yourself.

[The Liffey Lip]

I got a job on saturday night to a place called blackrock in county louth ,nice little run.I didnt know there were 2 blackrocks

At least 3.......one in Cork also....2 Drumcondras at least........Dundrums also....

[vandriver]

There's a Tallaght in the north.

[Rat Catcher]

Of course we're talking best case scenario, WD... it's their "best drivers". I discussed their shouting the €240/week freight from the rooftops with the bosses when I met them a few years back. They seemed to agree that publishing numbers relevant to drivers earnings wasn't necessarily helpful. Since that they have been more conservative. Regardless, my freight is always over €3/hour so it stands to reason that an ambassador who always has priority and who covers all areas, hospitality jobs, pre-bookings and airport pick ups is paying significantly more. By point of fact I don't work peak hours save 19:00-20:00 Saturday and sometimes 01:00-03:00 Sunday. Factoring that in, I can't see how the best drivers could be paying less than €5/hour before hospitality surcharges.

However, my basic point is that full-time drivers working for mytaxi are paying a hell of a lot more freight during this boom than I paid to C2K during the Celtic Tiger years. In fact, I have paid more myself for a 30 hour week working for mytaxi than I paid for as many hours as I wanted/needed to work with C2K. Obviously, run ins are much shorter with C2K and they have (or had) a base controller who can/could help you maximise takings with jobs on the way to jobs and such like so we were also taking significantly more than is possible with mytaxi. For example, back in 2007 morning bookings (after a busy night) were easily worth €60/hour working for C2k... eleven years on I'd imagine drivers would struggle to get €45/hour out of them with mytaxi's system.

[Rat Catcher]

I got a job on saturday night to a place called blackrock in county louth ,nice little run.I didnt know there were 2 blackrocks

There's at least three, DM. There's one up above in Dublin (just past Booterstown) as well.

[john m]

According to the EU speed limiters and black boxes to be fit to new cars after 2023 .