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Title: Starting out?
Post by: Mucker on April 06, 2019, 08:41:31 pm
Hi Lads,
I know these types of posts iritate people already in the game, but I just need advice. Long story short, years ago I used to work as a dispatcher, from ages 18 till about 22 early 2000s. Was always good craic among drivers etc. and always fancied driving myself, recently got round to doing SPSV tests, so have that all sorted.

Been looking at cars in the UK, usual stuff, partners etc. Was wondering if I imported one that was already WC converted could I get a cert handy for it anywhere in Ireland?
With the cost of insurance (fucking scandalous €7600) I'm trying to get the car as cheaply as possible. Already have approval for WAV rebate.

Sorry for asking, it's not my intention to take the food out of anyone's mouth, a lot of drivers in my town are near retirement age, any advice on setting up would be great

Also, I'm in Donegal, so I won't be mooching about Dublin on the weekend nights!




Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: john m on April 07, 2019, 12:08:12 am
Contact the Tsxi regulator and ask what the standard is then ask whoever you are buying the thing off what the standard of the vehicle is .Im sure we both use the same standard .If it was me working Doneygall I would get a hack licence as most of your work will be off the phone and locals will recognise your car without a big fuck off sign and doorstickers .
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: vandriver on April 07, 2019, 12:19:14 am
And when some fecker gets in your taxi and tells you it's a fiver anywhere in town,kick him out and let him walk.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Panel on April 07, 2019, 12:54:34 am
To apply for the grant you’ll have to phone the regulator and ask the to send out a grant pack, they send ya out forms to fill out and send back. Once they receive your application depending on success they’ll send ya a letter informing you of your application success, if successful they’ll issue you a ‘provisional grant’, which basically gives you the go ahead to purchase a WAT

 I’ve been lead to believe the majority of WATS are sourced from; https://www.british-car-auctions.co.uk (https://www.british-car-auctions.co.uk)

Make sure it’s a allied converted wat and has a metal plate inside the drivers door jam as this is *the* plate for the conversion company who converted your wat it should say stage 2 on it (van is effectively worthless without this plate)


Then imported by car transporter or ya can go over and get it yourself to save a few quid (make sure you keep the ferry receipt for ref good folks in the VRT office)

Once ya have it ya have to get a engineers report I’m lead to believe https://atecea.ie (https://atecea.ie) are a very reputable company to deal with, Noel is a gent he’ll give ya 3 certs for the wat (vrt, taxi reg, Nct)

Vrt (some wats don’t come with the co2 figure on the v5 for this you will have to email Peugeot in the uk quoting the chassis number and reg YOU CANNOT GET THIS FIGURE FROM PEUGEOT IRELAND) put in all your paperwork to the VRT office and then they have to asses your documentation (sqi) takes between 7-10 working days for them to get your reg, as for vrt it’s around €1600-2000 depending on what spec and engine she is.

Once ya have your reg plates send away your €175 bankers draft plus your engineers report to the regs and they get back to ya in a few days with your new plate number to pass out, in the mean time book your Nct (you’ll need your engineers report for this) and meter and stickers.

It’s fairly straight foreward once ya know what to do (as I’m lead to believe), as for savings a car ready to plate up (excluding grant and meter fit out and Sgs) on done deal they can ask for €13495.
https://www.donedeal.ie/view/19292215 (https://www.donedeal.ie/view/19292215)
Wheelchair Accessible Peugeot Partner Tepee 20


This is the process I’ve been through, my net on the road price for a 2012 Peugeot partner was €8319.79, that was with the €2500 grant, simmilar places wanted €14950 for the same van, admittedly that was on the road price too.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Mr phooey on April 07, 2019, 04:13:14 am
There's a lot cnuts lobbying for uber down the bog.... Ide be careful investing any money in a taxi....... 450 a week in lidl no overheads...work yur way up to manager 2000 grand a week an a car, vhi,pension ....
€7600 for insurance before you make a penny and will take ya the whole year to save unless your working 7 day week hours a week....

Have you really thought this one out?
Can you not rent a taxi for a while and see how much you can earn and if you can hack it before getting loans for insurance and a car?
Best of luck anyway
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: john m on April 07, 2019, 07:54:57 am
Also consider Brexit will you be insured to cross the line into Great British Loyal Colony of Norn Eireann .If your out around Bloodyforeland and you bump into Big Dommos sisters ,sisters lover Sean Ban Ni Brian ,tell her I said hello.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Mucker on April 07, 2019, 12:45:49 pm
 Cheers lads, a lot to think about here. Yeah, I'd looked at renting but I figured the only way to drive the insurance premium down was to take my own name policy out?
Hackney is a good shout too, will give it all a bit more thought before I invest.
Thanks again all.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Jack Meoff on April 07, 2019, 01:55:57 pm
Look into an 8 seater
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: vandriver on April 07, 2019, 02:24:19 pm
An 8 seater,and he's already worried about insurance cost!
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Jack Meoff on April 07, 2019, 03:59:19 pm
An 8 seater,and he's already worried about insurance cost!

Same price as a car
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: silverbullet on April 07, 2019, 06:34:15 pm
Cheers lads, a lot to think about here. Yeah, I'd looked at renting but I figured the only way to drive the insurance premium down was to take my own name policy out?
Hackney is a good shout too, will give it all a bit more thought before I invest.
Thanks again all.
Panels advice is Kosher.
Stick with it.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: john m on April 08, 2019, 12:28:40 am
yep panel is correct but dont be fooled by muppets telling you they are earning megauicks like vandriver he is a divorce  waiting to happen .Unless you only need chump change or like most of us are nut job anti social or there is no other employment dont commit coin to this game try get a job. Drive a taxi part time .In the far far long ago a sage called Francis the Sociapath opined this is only a part time gig .He is the smartest man I ever heard comment on this industry .
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Mr phooey on April 08, 2019, 01:31:36 am
yep panel is correct but dont be fooled by muppets telling you they are earning megauicks like vandriver he is a divorce  waiting to happen .Unless you only need chump change or like most of us are nut job anti social or there is no other employment dont commit coin to this game try get a job. Drive a taxi part time .In the far far long ago a sage called Francis the Sociapath opined this is only a part time gig .He is the smartest man I ever heard comment on this industry .

 ::cheers
Very astute Mr John
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: john m on April 08, 2019, 01:44:20 am
Phoey this is a great job for wasters like me .But the next downturn if you are trying to pay a motrgage and no hap or dole  you will realise you are fucked .Be carefull becoming self employed
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Tony on April 08, 2019, 06:00:21 am
Ah good old  frankie the original Irish Confucius, as he said taxi drivers are narseholes mostly..
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 08, 2019, 07:09:47 am
This could be a very good job alright,even when the next downturn comes,but only if drivers stand together and prepare for it.I believe drivers need to take back control of their industry,and have a real imput into its future.at the moment,drivers seem to be content to give over control to dispatchers who want to shape the future of the industry.by making it a legal requirement to align with them but when we hit recession,as we surely will again, and you dont have the 100 plus per week for Ebbs,Kelly Kearns, you wont be able to operate because you wont be able to pay your base fee.on the other hand,if you oppose compulsory alignment,you not only take back control of your industry,but you also take control your own business,and how we can all operate it.the government has a desire to make this a cashless,and an aligned business.at the moment ,they are pushing an open door,but the day will come when you will regret allowing the dispatchers to run the show mark my words.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Jack Meoff on April 08, 2019, 07:55:01 am
It’s only a part-time gig when you can’t drag your arse out of the cot in the morning.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 08, 2019, 08:06:17 am
There are many reasons why it is perceived to be part time.the fact that drivers dont seem to have any desire to bring a level of professionalism to it doesnt help.if movements like TTNH had received proper support in the first place,by trying to eliminate double jobbers,proper vetting practices, appeals process,professional standards, etc etc if could have been a really good job,and be treated seriously.drivers only see it as a part time gig,because people keep saying its a part time gig.this job has the potential to be really good,but it needs to be taken seriously,not least by its drivers.and I suspect the first thing they need to do,is take back control from dispatchers before its to late,and it becomes compulsory to join them
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 08, 2019, 08:40:58 am
Motivation...........big mortgage?...kids?...huge outgoings?.........no point having more than you need in this life as it will be taken from you by someone else anyway.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 08, 2019, 08:51:49 am
Yes lippy and in order to service your big morgage,provide for tour kids,etc etc you need to hold down a serious job,and my point is,drivers need to treat it seriously,and professionally,and not as some little part time number just for pin money.there are a lot of people depending on the taxi industry for a living ,but if they want to continue to benefit from it,then they need to take it seriously,and not be dismissive of it.I suggest we start by taking back control from dispatchers
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 08, 2019, 08:56:25 am
I'm not arguing with that, Dalyer. Most of the folks here seem to be settled, middle-aged males........those with kids who are now adults etc. I've no kids so my motivation might be different from that of a 35 yr old with 2 nippers and huge monthly debt to service....edited...no kids I mean to say.. lol
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 08, 2019, 11:57:09 am
Point taken lippy,but I really do believe we need to help make it a more professional industry,if only for the sake of our younger,debt  ridden colleagues.I believe as long as the strings are being pulled by dispatchers,there will be little chance of achieving that.when these dispatchers get total control,thats the rock the industry will perish on.the have the ear of the government at the moment,simply because the drivers reps are offering no opposition to the strategy they are using to run the industry the way they want.it is at a stage now,that they nearly have total alignment ,and when they get compulsory alignment,all drivers will be fukked.we will have nobody to blame but ourselves because of our willingness to sign up
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: stonethecrows on April 08, 2019, 12:06:07 pm
Point taken lippy,but I really do believe we need to help make it a more professional industry,if only for the sake of our younger,debt  ridden colleagues.I believe as long as the strings are being pulled by dispatchers,there will be little chance of achieving that.when these dispatchers get total control,thats the rock the industry will perish on.the have the ear of the government at the moment,simply because the drivers reps are offering no opposition to the strategy they are using to run the industry the way they want.it is at a stage now,that they nearly have total alignment ,and when they get compulsory alignment,all drivers will be fukked.we will have nobody to blame but ourselves because of our willingness to sign up
DM , would you envisage we would become employees of said companies ?
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: mercenary for hire on April 08, 2019, 12:06:08 pm
For as long as most drivers are happy you'll get nowhere.Customers want to pay by card.We have the PUC back from Mytaxi.We have little to complain about while we're making a few quid.

I'm not happy the way things are but you can't change things when you're in the minority.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: stonethecrows on April 08, 2019, 12:07:07 pm
For as long as most drivers are happy you'll get nowhere.Customers want to pay by card.We have the PUC back from Mytaxi.We have little to complain about while we're making a few quid.

I'm not happy the way things are but you can't change things when you're in the minority.
Agrrd MFH, unfortunately the minority count is 1
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 08, 2019, 12:48:34 pm
Your happy now,and everything in the garden is rosey.thats great.but because of your willingness to align,it will become compulsory in the event of time,and when the downturn comes and surely will, what are you going to do when there is no work out there,and Ebbs Kelly and Kearns have their hand out for their weekly dues.by that time mytaxi will probably be operating in such a way that they will also have to be paid
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 08, 2019, 12:58:48 pm
You care too much, Dalyer.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: john m on April 08, 2019, 01:12:12 pm
Dollymount you are only looking at this from one side .The customers like the app END OF .No use being a King Kenute you wont turn back the tide .
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 08, 2019, 02:15:31 pm
John I am aware customers like apps,but on Friday,and Saturday nights when the streets are littered with people looking for taxis,and all the apps are turned off,do you seriously think those same people care whether the taxi they are trying to engage is aligned to an app,or radio company or not ? The point being ,that people will not stop using taxis just because there are no apps available,and they wont stop using them at other times ether.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: The Liffey Lip on April 08, 2019, 02:29:33 pm
Most folks under 30 can't communicate without their phones, Dalyer. Some young fellows have to use their phones to tell a joke. I was sneered at over on Roy's for predicting that Stephen King's book "Cell" would become a blockbuster movie and that he was basing the book on what he saw happening to young people in America. Guess what.....................?
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 08, 2019, 02:41:59 pm
I think John nedsto go into the city centre at 2 am  on Friday night and see if the punters will refuse to get into a taxi because it doesnt have Kearns logo on the side
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: mercenary for hire on April 08, 2019, 03:06:01 pm
Many of us don't bother working those hours and the majority of passengers don't be in town after midnight.It's mainly business account work during the weekdays.Unless you're put there you'll never understand how things have changed.Im working today in the shitty rain and there are very few hands out.All app work.Once drivers are happy a few moaners like us won't change anything.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: stonethecrows on April 08, 2019, 03:15:23 pm
Many of us don't bother working those hours and the majority of passengers don't be in town after midnight.It's mainly business account work during the weekdays.Unless you're put there you'll never understand how things have changed.Im working today in the shitty rain and there are very few hands out.All app work.Once drivers are happy a few moaners like us won't change anything.
Daylight hours , App work , its safer and cleaner than looking over your shoulder at every fckn drunkn cnut that gets into the car in the crazy hours, and YES I have been there and done them hours.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 08, 2019, 03:39:37 pm
Tell that to the drivers who were given work in tyrelstown and found themselves the victims of attacks
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: stonethecrows on April 08, 2019, 04:02:55 pm
Tell that to the drivers who were given work in tyrelstown and found themselves the victims of attacks
Taken on board DM but it still is a lot safer and cleaner doing the "Daylight" hours, if we were to worry about "Daylight" hours we may as well stay indoors.

I know its been raised before but can MyTaxi can be held responsible if a driver comes a cropper with 1 of there clients ?, like could we claim of the MYT insurance for damages / loss of earnings ?
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: silverbullet on April 08, 2019, 04:19:54 pm
We all have different M.O's. I moved from days because of the amount of tracker knackers trying to score during daylight hours.
They are more apparent because all the free services and welfare system operate office hours.
You are more likely to rank up during day work, and rhat leaves you vulnerable to skobies.
At least on Tariff 2 when you're cruising you get to make snap judgements.
More and more attacks are driving cabbies to the cleaner, safer App work.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: taxi1990 on April 09, 2019, 11:39:23 am
If you like your nights out op, dont get into this game.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: silverbullet on April 09, 2019, 04:53:23 pm
If you like your nights out op, dont get into this game.
+1
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Mucker on April 10, 2019, 03:25:19 pm
If you like your nights out op, dont get into this game.
+1

Have 2 kids so my nights out are well curtailed at this stage anyway
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 10, 2019, 03:27:34 pm
You can work whenever you want in the cab. Don't unnecessarily tie yourself to perceived busy times such as weekend nights.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: stonethecrows on April 10, 2019, 03:32:24 pm
You can also work when the wife is at home
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 10, 2019, 03:52:49 pm
Only if Ebbs,Kelly,and Kearns say so though
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: taxi1990 on April 10, 2019, 07:12:09 pm
if you are not working in the cities, saturday night will be your busiest night. it will be hard to take that night off when it is your best money making time. most taxi drivers are greedy and wont take too many saturday nights off.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: stonethecrows on April 11, 2019, 09:12:42 am
if you are not working in the cities, saturday night will be your busiest night. it will be hard to take that night off when it is your best money making time. most taxi drivers are greedy and wont take too many saturday nights off.
1990, in my case its a case of necessity rather than greed, Family, mortgage and bills to pay, why would I take Saturday off unless I absolutely had to ?
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: mercenary for hire on April 11, 2019, 09:25:05 am
The money can be easier to make on busy weekend nights thanks to tariff 2.But you don't really have to do them in Dublin.Even during the recession I could get a decent days pay for a long Saturday day shift.8am to 8pm,it used to be worthwhile before I got lazy.

So the myth that you need to work nights to survive was never really true.We've got Vandriver making trummers on the app during the day.I've only worked up until 2am maybe three times in ten years.I'd do it if I was in trouble for money but prefer to stick to the normal hours.

I find it interesting that the drivers who never work days think it's a life of poverty.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 11, 2019, 10:09:13 am
In my case its not the money,its the fukkiing traffic.I would loose the will to live if I had to work days
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: mercenary for hire on April 11, 2019, 10:16:51 am
Daly yer not the most optimistic guy on here already...maybe the day shift might boost yer mooood..
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: taxi1990 on April 11, 2019, 10:25:36 am
I work days and nights at weekends. Days is mostly regualar customers so no trouble with them, its enjoyable work mostly. Night work can be good craic but you are just one customer away from having to call the guards about a runner, an assault, a customer refusing to pay the fare or the soiling charge.
The irish public when drunk are like animals at times, no manners whatsoever.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 11, 2019, 10:42:57 am
I had cause to call the Guards only last Saturday night.I picked up this Belgium bastard on the N11 .he wanted to go to the bonnington hotel.not a word between him or I on the way.when we got there,he declares he has no money.a row developes,and I call the cops.they arrived fairly quickly in fairness  to them.after a period of 1 hour,35 minutes,he finally goes up to his room and wakes one of the people he was with to pay the fare.as we were departing this cunt shook hands with everyone the Gaurds,hotel receptionist,his mate,and says ti me in an aggressive tone I WILL NOT SHAKE YOUR HAND.the fact that I was the injured party,did not come into it.what a fukking cheek
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: mercenary for hire on April 11, 2019, 10:48:01 am
Did you wait that long for 15 euro or could you charge for your time?
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 11, 2019, 10:55:16 am
No I waited,and I assure you the money was never the reason,it waswas the principle of ita.I just couldnt get over the cheek of this cunt.I said ti him why did you not tell me before you got in you had no money,and his answer was that you wouldcan not have taken me then
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: taxi1990 on April 11, 2019, 11:15:26 am
Same happened me with a traveller couple one night, he refused to pay and tried to say I discriminated against them. I called the guards, the little shit paid up when the guards arrived. It cost me more by waiting for the guards but its the principle of it. That tramp had probably got away with that tactic many times.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: stonethecrows on April 11, 2019, 11:46:41 am
Picked up a German Lad from Harolds Cross area on Sunday morning , was on the walk of shame, taxi ordered by the burd he had shacked up with for the nite and he obviously paying the fare by cash. Anyways he going to North Great Georges Street hostel and tells me he needs a ATM. Stopped at Spar in Clanbrassil Street and not switched on, stopped at ATM opp the Olympia and it would not digest his German Card. Got to the hostel and he said he would leave his phone with me , anyways he went in and got the lolly from his mates and gave me a tip.
Love these happy ending stories.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: taxi1990 on April 11, 2019, 12:09:53 pm
You should get yourself a sum up card reader. It has been great for me since I bought it.saves driving around looking for atms, also a lot of people dont have cash in their house.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 11, 2019, 05:10:42 pm
I can never understand why anyone needing a taxi waits till they get in to start looking for a ATM.if I wanted a taxi,I would make sure I had the money first
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 11, 2019, 05:56:45 pm
Loada bollix really, the beauty off the job is that you can earn a bit of coin whenever you want.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: silverbullet on April 11, 2019, 07:45:56 pm
Welcome to the theatre of broken dreams.
Ten years from now, you'll  be on here saying you've your money made, and you can live on €35 A week plus family income supplement!! 8)
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: mercenary for hire on April 11, 2019, 07:58:21 pm
Have to say when I started out it wasn't to be well off it was just to survive through the downturn as I already had most things I needed.I really don't wanna be one of them rich oul felllas who can't spend their money because their body gave up on them.Rather enjoy it now, work less.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 11, 2019, 10:16:26 pm
Well id say my days in the game are numbered.I gave it my best shot trying to convince drivers not to align themselves with a dispatcher,but iI lost the battle I accept that.if you are not with a dispatcher,you really have no chance of survival in the future. Could NEVER join a dispatcher ,so I guess if I get another year out of it ill be happy.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: taxi1990 on April 11, 2019, 10:55:12 pm
why dont you move to the country dalymount? no one works the apps there, i know you have this thing about 5 euro fares but you dont have to do them, i dont.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 12, 2019, 01:08:14 am
Yeah I have a thing about 5 euro fares,but I also have a belief that it will become compulsory to align with a dispatcher,so moving to the country would not solve my problem.I also  think the drivers will some day realize when its to late that they made a grave mistake by bringing about compulsory alignment
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Belker on April 12, 2019, 01:25:41 am
To apply for the grant you’ll have to phone the regulator and ask the to send out a grant pack, they send ya out forms to fill out and send back. Once they receive your application depending on success they’ll send ya a letter informing you of your application success, if successful they’ll issue you a ‘provisional grant’, which basically gives you the go ahead to purchase a WAT

 I’ve been lead to believe the majority of WATS are sourced from; https://www.british-car-auctions.co.uk (https://www.british-car-auctions.co.uk)

Make sure it’s a allied converted wat and has a metal plate inside the drivers door jam as this is *the* plate for the conversion company who converted your wat it should say stage 2 on it (van is effectively worthless without this plate)


Then imported by car transporter or ya can go over and get it yourself to save a few quid (make sure you keep the ferry receipt for ref good folks in the VRT office)

Once ya have it ya have to get a engineers report I’m lead to believe https://atecea.ie (https://atecea.ie) are a very reputable company to deal with, Noel is a gent he’ll give ya 3 certs for the wat (vrt, taxi reg, Nct)

Vrt (some wats don’t come with the co2 figure on the v5 for this you will have to email Peugeot in the uk quoting the chassis number and reg YOU CANNOT GET THIS FIGURE FROM PEUGEOT IRELAND) put in all your paperwork to the VRT office and then they have to asses your documentation (sqi) takes between 7-10 working days for them to get your reg, as for vrt it’s around €1600-2000 depending on what spec and engine she is.

Once ya have your reg plates send away your €175 bankers draft plus your engineers report to the regs and they get back to ya in a few days with your new plate number to pass out, in the mean time book your Nct (you’ll need your engineers report for this) and meter and stickers.

It’s fairly straight foreward once ya know what to do (as I’m lead to believe), as for savings a car ready to plate up (excluding grant and meter fit out and Sgs) on done deal they can ask for €13495.
https://www.donedeal.ie/view/19292215 (https://www.donedeal.ie/view/19292215)
Wheelchair Accessible Peugeot Partner Tepee 20


This is the process I’ve been through, my net on the road price for a 2012 Peugeot partner was €8319.79, that was with the €2500 grant, simmilar places wanted €14950 for the same van, admittedly that was on the road price too.
Hope this helps.
@ Mucker; Go with 'Panel', the man really knows what he is talking about.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Belker on April 12, 2019, 02:00:36 am
Yeah I have a thing about 5 euro fares,but I also have a belief that it will become compulsory to align with a dispatcher,so moving to the country would not solve my problem.I also  think the drivers will some day realize when its to late that they made a grave mistake by bringing about compulsory alignment
Why do you worry so much about other drives DM ?
You have your own plot and you work as you like, your type of work suits you in your own zone in Dublin, seemingly there is enough flag-downs in your area to keep you busy.
Down here in Cork there is plenty of Flag-downs between 2am and 3am on mid-week nights and between 1am and 4am on week-end nights, the rest of the time we have to mostly rely on MyTaxi to get the work fer us, OR we could join a rank in about 10th place and wait fer a job, personally I will take the 88% MyTaxi job with PUC rather than join a rank.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Belker on April 12, 2019, 02:01:50 am
In my case its not the money,its the fukkiing traffic.I would loose the will to live if I had to work days
Me Too !
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Belker on April 12, 2019, 02:23:49 am
I had this Idiot in the cab one night, I picked him up by Finn's corner
in the middle of Cork, he was carrying a closed Indian takeaway box,
as it was 4.30am in the morning and nothing doing on the street's
I took a chance on him with the food in his hand.
He sits in and seems decently sober asking to go to Midleton and
inquiring how much it would be ? I told him that it would be about
Thirty Five to Forty Euro IF it was just to Midleton. "Fine" he sez.

We head on and get chatting, then he opens his takeaway box and
starts eating a few chips with a plastic fork, I allow him as he seems
sober enough and I give him a few tissues so as not to make a mess,
which in fairness he didn't and we chat away all the way to Midleton
about food and the best chippers in Cork.
When we get to his B&B address in Midleton the fare is at 34.45 and
I ask for just 34Euro, he sez to me; "Do you have a card ?" so I hand
him a taxi business card and he then sez; "Will you put your name
and number on the card for me and I will call tomorrow to pay you"
.
No way am I going along with that line and a Ten minute argument
takes place within the cab, seemingly he had No money, No wallet,
No bank card or No I.D. on him and he refuses my suggestion of
handing over his mobile phone as Security for him to pay the fare.

He must have told me every Lie under the Sun, Firstly about his wife
being Dead and than a few minutes later how he needed his phone
to contact his wife who was on holidays in Spain !.
The meter was now up to 38Euro and I stopped it at that as I'd heard
enough of his Bullshit and rang 11850 on my phone;
"Midleton Garda station in Cork please" I requested from the operator,
he connected me straight through and I told the Midleton Gardai of
my predicament, the guard told me to drive to the Main street outside
the AIB bank by the Big roundabout and he would have a patrol car
meet me there shortly.
Yer-man-o starts up; "You know that if you go to the Guards that I'm
going to pay you Nothing !"
, I replied smugly; "We will see".
As we drive along he shouts; "Stop, Stop I'll pay you" and he reaches in to
his pocket and pulls out a few notes of which I can see at least a Twenty,
a Ten and a Fiver, but he doesn't hand them over and I keep driving on
for my Rendezvous point on the Main street, he re-pockets his notes and
starts on about how I'm over charging him and how the fare should be
only Twenty Five Euro. He attempts to start eating his Indian takeaway
again, but this time I'm not allowing it and another Row breaks out over
me disallowing him to eat within the Taxi, while I state Chapter and
Verse of the Taxi regulations regarding Food in the cab.

I'm well pleased after seeing yer mans cash and park my cab outside
the AIB bank, yer man goes on for an eternity about how I'm trying to
rob him as we wait for the patrol car. Eventually I stand out for a ciggie
and yer man stands out aswell, I reach back in, grab his Indian takeaway
and hand it to him, I also take a Two Euro coin from my coin bag and
put it in my pocket before locking the car. No way was this idiot ever
going to see the inside of my cab again. Again I ring the Gardai in
Midleton asking should I just drive down the road to the Garda station ?
but I was told to wait where I was as the patrol car was on the way to me.

Idiot was also on his phone after dialling 999 to report me for something
or other, but the 999 operator had hung up on him after finding out that
it was not an Emergency call. A long Twenty minutes later with me having
to listen to Idiot spouting all kinds of rubbish the Garda patrol car arrives.

Two middle-aged male Burly Guards get out of their car, neither of them
looked like they were going to stand for too much nonsense, The guard
driving the patrol car approached me first asking; "What's de Story ?",
I explain myself to him also telling him that 'He' has money but he won't
part with it and the Two Gardai go over to question the Idiot.

Idiot goes off on a massive Rant about me over charging telling the Guards
that I told him the fare would be only Thirty Euro when I picked him up
and how I had referred to him as a "Knacker" within the cab and various
other figments of his drunken imagination, even offering himself to be
arrested a few times. After Ten minutes of listening to him and trying to
coerce him in to paying for his cab, the First guard took his handcuffs from
his belt holder, he ran the Cuffs noisely through the ratchet twice while
saying; "Look, are ya gonna Pay or Not ?",
Idiot on hearing the sound of the Cuffs reached in to his pocket and
produced Forty Euro and offered it to me, I accepted it ungraciously
and gave him his Two Euro change. I sit back in to my cab thanking the
Gardai as they leave for their time and patience

Idiot starts off again as the rain comes down; "How am I gonna get home ?",
the Guard now walking away from the scene back to his own patrol car
shouts back at him; "Not in that mans Taxi anyway, Walk !".
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 12, 2019, 03:06:23 am
I always feel a great sense of elation when I get paid in these situations.its not even the money,its just to get the better of them
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Cool Boola on April 12, 2019, 10:51:11 am
Yes...it's a good feeling when it finally works out in your favour
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Belker on April 14, 2019, 09:57:48 am
I had 4 Chungwans in the cab last Friday night going out to Ballincollig (12 KM trip), 2 lovely polite lasses, 1 other pissed as a coot and 1 right Brassy bitch, I hear the drunk one getting sick in the back and just mention it. The 2 polite girls are asking what we should do ? and the Brassy yoke is bursting her Tits laughing.
I pull in outside Ballincollig Garda station and Brassy bitch goes off on One. I let her spout off as the meter was running and she soon realized how much shite she was in and where she was. Between the Jigs and the Reels she paid her friend's 140 soiling charge from the ATM across the road and the 2 polite girls paid 35 fer the 32 euro fare home.
I was home on the Link in 10 minutes, all cleaned up in 5 minutes (Dettol Surface cleaner and Hot water is the Job) and back to work within 20 minutes, if the Fookin fat gobby bitch had been in any way respectful to me then things might have worked out much better fer her.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: dalymount on April 14, 2019, 10:25:24 am
Im glad to hear of SOMEONE finally getting they soilage charge,any time I had problems like that they say ill clean it up myself .what are you supposed to do if they offer  to clean it up themselves and they just wont pay ?
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Belker on April 14, 2019, 10:46:51 am
Tell 'em it's Vomit and it needs to be valeted properly, preferably whilst parked outside a Garda station.
Every one pays (except Knackers) when your parked outside a Garda station.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Belker on April 14, 2019, 11:02:24 am
Excerpt from 'Taxi Diaries';

Chapter 29. Not Again !
 
I realized I had been lucky Not to have a 'Barfer' in my First year as a
night time taxi-driver, but I didn't expect the Second One so soon !
 
I picked up this young couple both about 25'ish and both very well turned
out in designer gear, I collected them on Coburg street about 12.15am
Saturday night/Sunday morning, about Two weeks after the vomiting
incident with the young girls. They both sat into the back seat,
again I was driving 'My old Luv, the 98C Avensis'.
She was a lovely young tanned brunette and not too drunk, the tall fella
with her was well inebriated, maybe 'Sulking' because it looked like he
wasn't gonna 'Get Lucky' tonight, at first she was going on to Havana
Browns niteclub and he was going home to Carrigrohane, but she changed
her mind (due to his sulking) and decided they would both go back to her
house in Rochestown, to a Millionaires private estate in the middle of
Rochestown, she said to; ''Take the Link road as it would be faster'',
she was a really lovely chirpy young girl, we chatted away, the fella was
very quiet in the back beside her, we scooted out the link road and slipped
off the side of the 'Magic' roundabout, just after we had turned onto the
second part of the Link road heading to Douglas, yer man rolled down the
back window down and attempted to barf out of it, I immediately pulled over,
but way too late because he had covered himself, the taxi floor and the
inside of the back door plus most of the outside of the car door in vomit,
the smell was wafting throughout the car as we drove on for Rochestown.
I was most eager to get their address, all was quiet for most of the remainder
of the journey, except for herself to be constantly apologizing for him,
(I refused her apologies and told her that SHE had nothing to apologize for).

Everyone knew that there was going to be Trouble when we got to her home,
when we arrived, I calmly explained about the One Hundred and Forty Euro
soiling charge and told them; ''The car would be off the road for the rest of
the weekend and it would have to be valeted on Monday'',

the young girl offered to clean up some of it herself, but I told her;
"It wasn't worth it, it would have to be valeted anyway".
Yer man got out and staggered about for a bit, he was covered, really
covered in vomit, all over his face, arms and clothes, then he offered me
Thirty Euro in cash and promised to settle the remainder another day,
I refused that point blank, yer man started getting Shirty with me and
he made the mistake of saying to me; "Don't be a Jack-Ass about it !",
the Red Mist descended upon me and I left him have it 'verbally' right
between the eyes, I threw a right few Fukcs into him, probably the most
sensible bit was; "Why de Fukc, didn't you just ask me to pull-over ?",
anyway he was reeling after his 'Bollocking' and realized he had to pay,
so all back into the car, meter running all the time and on to an ATM
in the nearest garage in Rochestown autos, he couldn't work it after
a few attempts due to his alcohol over-indulgence, so his lovely girlfriend
had to put in his PIN number, etc for him, when we were all back in the car,
she asked me; "How much all-together, including the fare ?",
I said; "By the time your home again, be about Thirty Euro plus One Hundred
and Forty soiling charge, it will be One Hundred and Seventy Euro all in",

so she paid in full with his cash, I dropped them both to her home 'quietly'
we said goodbye civilly at about 12.30am.
 
I immediately went home, had a good look around in the back of the taxi,
thought out my cleaning strategy; Garden hose, which I always keep at the
ready for washing cars, hot water, cloth's and fairy liquid, febreeze,
dettol disinfectant spray, newspapers and plenty of kitchen roll,
And set about my task, I attempted to clean-off the inside of the back door,
but gave up quickly and opened it out and turned the garden hose on the
inside of the door, then I set about the task of cleaning up the contents of
another mans stomach from the floor and seats of the taxi. Thanks be to God
a good share of it was on the rubber mats. All the cleaning, changing, washing, Etc
took about an hour & a half as I had to change out of my taxi uniform before
starting the cleaning and adorn an old trackie and tee-shirt, wash myself up after
and change back into uniform again before hitting the busy club closing time of 2am.

I was back in that taxi, Me and Cab as 'Clean as a whistle' and on the road at 2.01am,
plus One Hundred and Seventy Euro better off, but Jaysus, I earned it, the Hard Way !!
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 17, 2019, 05:01:50 pm
Im glad to hear of SOMEONE finally getting they soilage charge,any time I had problems like that they say ill clean it up myself .what are you supposed to do if they offer  to clean it up themselves and they just wont pay ?

If you work for mytaxi the soiling charge is commission free and easy to collect on account jobs.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Belker on April 18, 2019, 07:36:13 am
Of the dozen or so Soiling events in my cab over the last Ten years, I have successfully recovered the full Soiling charge on about 75% of them and a partial over 50% payment on most of the remainder, the only one that ever got away was from a drunk scumbag from a council estate in Mahon who spilt beer on the seat.
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Belker on April 18, 2019, 08:22:15 am
Excerpt from Taxi Diaries 2, (Circa 2013);

Me Motorola !

I bought a lovely Motorola Walkie-Talkie yesterday, 150 bucks ex-rental
from Kestrel communications up by Cork airport and programmed for free.
It allows me to move from the car on long shifts and still be in touch with the base,
so as not to miss out on Plum jobs if your out of the car chatting or whatever.
I was feeling guilty about spending so much on a 'Toy', but then Anthony
'Baby Bear' stepped in to help !
 
Anthony was top of the rank on the Grand Parade 'Chicken run' last night
at about 3am, a Dougal behind him and Me in Third spot on the rank,
Three lads and a blonde all in their early Thirties approached my cab,
one fella had a closed 'Hillbillys' bag and a drink in his hand, the rest had
no food or drink with them, they asked me to go to Blackrock and then
Mahon, I said; "Take yer man (Anthony) at the front ",
but the young man with the Hillbillys bag said to me; "He refused us and so did
the Second driver, I think because we had food with us". "Jump in 'er "
sez I.
I dropped the first drunken lad at Lindville on the Blackrock road,
the Second at Silverdale by the Silver Key pub, and then I noticed the blonde
in the back moving seats, but I think nothing of it. Last drop was the couple,
the fella with the grub and the blonde to a house in Beechwood by
St Lukes nursing home in Mahon and get my 17 bucks fare.
 
On to the garage I go in Mahon to get some diesel, I check the back seats,
a nasty little bit of vomit on the back door and floor.
As I pay for my diesel the 'Red Mist' is descending, (Not my Best Colour !).
No Way am I having it and much More Importantly,
NO WAY IS ANTHONY GONNA HAVE IT OVER ON ME.
 
I speed back to Beechwood and hammer the door down,
yer man comes out still eating his Hillbillys, I tell him casually;
"We have a Problem".
He knew, the Blonde knew and she had told him about it.
He tries to ring his drunk friend, obviously no answer at 3.30am.
 
I break it down for him; "Its 140 soiling charge, you can either pay
me tonight or give me some insurance like your phone and pay
the base tomorrow or else it's a Garda matter".

He goes back in to the house and comes back with his friends
mobile number on a piece of paper, telling me;
"Ring him tomorrow, he will sort you out".
I reply sternly; "Your not seeing it ar ya, the blond girl was one of
the Three in the back which vomited, I don't know which of them
vomited, but either I get paid tonight or I will have to go to the
gardai right now to have the soiling witnessed, because tomorrow
ye will have all forgotten about it".

He whimpered; "Do you take Laser ?".
"No" I replied; "But I'll drive you to the ATM to get cash".
Back in to the house he goes and returns Two minutes later with
140Euro cash in his paw requesting a receipt to show his mate.
I write out his soiling receipt with my mobile number on it on a
DS cabs card and we part on friendly terms.
 
To be fair, there wasn't a lot of vomit, but there was enough to warrant
the full 140 soiling charge but I'm not afraid to get me hands Dirty.
 
Back home at speed to my car park, garden hose reeled out, in to me
gaff and put the kettle on. Grab a basin, dish-cloth, plastic bag, spoon,
dettol surface cleaner and febreeze and set about my task.
Firstly spooning out the vomit into the plastic bag, then applying surface
cleaner all over. Fill the basin with hot water from the kettle and cold water
from the garden hose, wash it all out with the dish cloth, dry it all up with
kitchen roll, spray it all down again with febrezze, dry it all up again with
kitchen roll, Dump the vomit in the plastic bag in to the refuse bin, Job Done !
Then clean off all me gear under the hose, put everything back and wash
myself off and back out on the road in search of Anthony to tell him of the
157Euro I had just made in less than an hour on the job that he had refused !
 
My new Motorola will be remembered as "Anthonys Walkie-Talkie",
as it was he who gave me the opportunity to pay for it with an hours work !
Title: Re: Starting out?
Post by: Rat Catcher on April 18, 2019, 02:39:07 pm
wash it all out with the dish cloth, dry it all up with
kitchen roll, spray it all down again with febrezze, dry it all up again with
kitchen roll, Dump the vomit in the plastic bag in to the refuse bin, Job Done !
Then clean off all me gear under the hose, put everything back

Remind me not to have a coffee in your gaff next time I'm in the real capital.