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Title: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Tony on October 23, 2019, 10:59:25 am
https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/thirty-nine-bodies-discovered-in-container-in-essex-driver-25-from-northern-ireland-arrested-police-38623799.html (https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/thirty-nine-bodies-discovered-in-container-in-essex-driver-25-from-northern-ireland-arrested-police-38623799.html)
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 23, 2019, 11:16:53 am
25 is very young to be allowed drive one of them rigs.I would have thought insurance would be mental.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Tony on October 23, 2019, 11:26:25 am
25 is very young to be allowed drive one of them rigs.I would have thought insurance would be mental.


Its hard to get decent drivers like meself so companies are taking on anyone that says they have a licence, BTW i was driving them from the age of 18
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: john m on October 23, 2019, 12:04:10 pm
People trafficers Insurance not a problen imigrants probably paying up to 10K a head .RIP
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on October 23, 2019, 12:57:46 pm
were they escaping the freedom that was brought to their country courtesy of the US and the UK.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: dalymount on October 23, 2019, 10:04:38 pm
RIP 39   poor souls
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Octavia1 on October 24, 2019, 01:49:30 am
Wud you go into a sealed container without oxygen ?
Wud yu put yur head in an oven ?



Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Tony on October 24, 2019, 07:12:20 am
Wud you go into a sealed container without oxygen ?
Wud yu put yur head in an oven ?

Its the innocent driver i feel sorry for, the poor chat was only doing a days work
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Belker on October 24, 2019, 07:38:53 am
Wud you go into a sealed container without oxygen ?
Wud yu put yur head in an oven ?

Its the innocent driver i feel sorry for, the poor chat was only doing a days work
@ Tony, serious question, would a truck driver not know what load he was carrying ?

I don't know anything about your old game but I would imagine no driver would be asked to drive 39 people through various ports without being told in advance ?
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Tony on October 24, 2019, 08:03:21 am
I've picked up many a trailer in different ports and never knew what was in them till they reached their final destination, paper work can say one thing but the cargo may be different, if i was to pick up a container without a seal id check the paperwork to see if it was sent out that way, if not i wouldn't leave the port / haulage yard/ or whatever storage place it was in without getting the proper documentation signed to say unsealed  by whoever was in charge.
But that was many moons ago ken,  its very easy to blame the driver pulling the trailer in this case and i for one wouldn't blame him.
The headlines of driver arrested on suspicion of mass murder is a discrace, the poor man will never be the same again mentality and all the keyboard warriors and the media out there  calling him all kinda names is wrong in my opinion.

Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: john m on October 24, 2019, 08:10:20 am
Follow the money ..they will check out the owner and drivers to see if their lifestyle is above their wage packet .People smuggling is more profitable than drugs .They could put a stop to it easily if they fined employers who employ illegals thousands per worker .These migrants wouldnt be in a hurry to come to Europe if there was no financial reward for them .Governments are promoting illegals by offering asylum if you can get here or there .
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Belker on October 24, 2019, 08:23:53 am
I've picked up many a trailer in different ports and never knew what was in them till they reached their final destination, paper work can say one thing but the cargo may be different, if i was to pick up a container without a seal id check the paperwork to see if it was sent out that way, if not i wouldn't leave the port / haulage yard/ or whatever storage place it was in without getting the proper documentation signed to say unsealed  by whoever was in charge.
But that was many moons ago ken,  its very easy to blame the driver pulling the trailer in this case and i for one wouldn't blame him.
The headlines of driver arrested on suspicion of mass murder is a discrace, the poor man will never be the same again mentality and all the keyboard warriors and the media out there  calling him all kinda names is wrong in my opinion.
Thanks fer the input El Tonio, I don't read anything on social media. But as an ex-trucker yourself, is it possible or could he possibly be that stoopid that he didn't know what he was hauling ?
We all know our own game inside out, it aint that hard to spot a Bad One ?
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Tony on October 24, 2019, 08:24:26 am
The drivers home and business premises were raided yesterday looking for such stuff john, as of this morning he's still being held in custody, so not looking too good for him at the moment.
Looking through various trucking sites a lot of people reckon he's innocent. He only picked up the trailer 40 minutes before hand.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Tony on October 24, 2019, 08:26:25 am
I've picked up many a trailer in different ports and never knew what was in them till they reached their final destination, paper work can say one thing but the cargo may be different, if i was to pick up a container without a seal id check the paperwork to see if it was sent out that way, if not i wouldn't leave the port / haulage yard/ or whatever storage place it was in without getting the proper documentation signed to say unsealed  by whoever was in charge.
But that was many moons ago ken,  its very easy to blame the driver pulling the trailer in this case and i for one wouldn't blame him.
The headlines of driver arrested on suspicion of mass murder is a discrace, the poor man will never be the same again mentality and all the keyboard warriors and the media out there  calling him all kinda names is wrong in my opinion.
Thanks fer the input El Tonio, I don't read anything on social media. But as an ex-trucker yourself, is it possible or could he possibly be that stoopid that he didn't know what he was hauling ?
We all know our own game inside out, it aint that hard to spot a Bad One ?

Yes ken, many a time ive hauled goods and didn't know what was in the container
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Belker on October 24, 2019, 08:42:58 am
In the truckers defence, no driver would take a cargo of 39 people in a container and allow them no air.
If'n the trucker had of known his cargo then most likely he would have make sure they had air ?
As he had nothing to gain from them all dying.

The worst of it all is the traffickers who put them in the container and got paid will most likely walk free.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: john m on October 24, 2019, 09:02:36 am
It was a refridgerated container Ken so airtite .They had less chance of surviving that that the Gas Chambers .
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 24, 2019, 09:37:38 am
Maybe he checked the container afterwards and that's how the bodies were discovered.How else would the ambulance crew been alerted?.Could have been another 20 that escaped.

Back when I was a courier I wasn't opening every package to see if there was something illegal inside.I didn't care as long as I got a signature on delivery.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Shallowhal on October 24, 2019, 10:08:47 am
True MFH,
I remember back in the 80's working as a courier,got a pickup from a well known tailors going to Ranelagh...when i got to the shop,there was a few detectives and i was told to deliver the package to the Hill Pub,i questioned what i was doing exactly and as i was now privy to their plan i said i wasn't happy to do that and walked from the shop.....went back to the base and was dragged off the controller....who along with all the base staff and owner knew what was happening.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 24, 2019, 10:14:54 am
I think something similar happened with a gaff in Ballyfermot about 15 years ago.The cops met with the courier and sent one of their own up to the gaff with the package.Someone got a few years after it.Probably best not knowing what you're carrying anyway.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Tony on October 24, 2019, 10:15:23 am
Go on tell us the full story hal, ken might even write a short story or a book on it.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Bob Shillin on October 24, 2019, 05:58:01 pm
How did they die?

1. Lack of oxygen?  How wlong in the container?
2. Lack of food?  How long in the container?
3. Froze to death? Why was the fridge turned on if the people had paid to be trafficked?
If the fridge was off what did the manifest/paperwork say? Answer 1 or 2 so.

Must have been horrible inside with people dying 1 by 1 over how long?
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: silverbullet on October 24, 2019, 06:06:14 pm
Ignorance is no defence.
All Chinese nationals.
R.I.P.
What a horrific end.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: markmiwurdz on October 24, 2019, 06:38:06 pm
Probably to be used in slave labour.RIP.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Shallowhal on October 24, 2019, 07:12:29 pm
Ignorance is no defence.
All Chinese nationals.
R.I.P.
What a horrific end.

True.....but i believe the driver was the one who called the emergency services,last report i read...and there has been quite a few...is that they believe the trailer never passed through Ireland.

I watched Criminal UK on Netflix,3 stories,one of them was about a similar situation.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 25, 2019, 05:37:48 pm
RIP + 38.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: silverbullet on October 25, 2019, 08:03:00 pm
Anyone involved should be handed over to the Chinese authorities.
Might dissuade future Snakeheads.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Tony on October 25, 2019, 10:06:42 pm
















A man arrested on Friday morning in connection with Wednesday's Essex lorry tragedy is originally from Offaly, the Offaly Express can reveal.

The man, 38, was arrested along with his wife, also 38, in Warrington, Cheshire, shortly after 5am on Friday morning, October 25. The couple were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter, according to Essex Police. https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/home/489158/offaly-man-arrested-in-relation-to-essex-lorry-tragedy.html#.XbNi_ecqbuM.whatsapp (https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/home/489158/offaly-man-arrested-in-relation-to-essex-lorry-tragedy.html#.XbNi_ecqbuM.whatsapp)
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: stonethecrows on October 25, 2019, 11:04:06 pm
Wife tells me a young vietnamese lady in the container texted her parents as she was dieing apoligising to them .

Apparently they had paid 20k for there daughter to find a better life.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Tony on October 25, 2019, 11:07:53 pm
I doubt there'd be any mobile service in a sealed container
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: stonethecrows on October 25, 2019, 11:15:18 pm
I doubt there'd be any mobile service in a sealed container
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/25/essex-lorry-deaths-britain-must-accept-responsibility-not-protecting/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/25/essex-lorry-deaths-britain-must-accept-responsibility-not-protecting/)
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Belker on October 26, 2019, 08:55:09 am
I doubt there'd be any mobile service in a sealed container
The mobile service has improved greatly in recent years,
mine fer years used to pack up entering the Lee tunnel but it doesent anymore.

Does anyone know what the gig is ?
Pay 30K to go to UK and join a very long line of asylum seekers ? Is that it ?
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Vikkiz on October 26, 2019, 09:12:35 am
I doubt there'd be any mobile service in a sealed container
The mobile service has improved greatly in recent years,
mine fer years used to pack up entering the Lee tunnel but it doesent anymore.

Does anyone know what the gig is ?
Pay 30K to go to UK and join a very long line of asylum seekers ? Is that it ?
Well it's like the south americans getting into USA, once you're in their country theres not much they can do but it's the getting in that's the problem.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Octavia1 on October 26, 2019, 12:24:43 pm
39 less
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: silverbullet on October 26, 2019, 07:14:12 pm
Mo Robinson charged:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/essex-migrant-deaths-mo-robinson-charged-with-39-counts-of-manslaughter-another-man-is-arrested-in-dublin-port-959960.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/essex-migrant-deaths-mo-robinson-charged-with-39-counts-of-manslaughter-another-man-is-arrested-in-dublin-port-959960.html)
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: john m on October 28, 2019, 06:05:36 pm
If you look at the evidence he is guilty as fuck .Look at where he pulled up .Why would you stop there and open the Doors .He would of needed to have some idea of what was on board .Where was the loading bay or Forklift tounload .He is going down for Life I hope .
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 28, 2019, 06:15:28 pm
One less

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Chucky our law.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: silverbullet on October 28, 2019, 08:01:59 pm
One less

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Chucky our law.
Orange you glad he was Caught?
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: john m on October 28, 2019, 08:05:57 pm
One less

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Chucky our law.


He might march to the Three coloured Flag Rodent .He could turn out to be somebody who kneels at mass not sits at service .
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: silverbullet on October 28, 2019, 08:10:29 pm
One less

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Chucky our law.


He might march to the Three coloured Flag Rodent .He could turn out to be somebody who kneels at mass not sits at service .
He was caught red handed! 8)
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: dalymount on October 29, 2019, 07:15:13 am
It seems according to the news this morning, that the trucker was part of a global smuggling ring
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: vandriver on October 29, 2019, 07:26:22 am
It seems according to the news this morning, that the trucker was part of a global smuggling ring
When that pretty boy gets to chokey,his global smuggling ring will get a seeing to.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: silverbullet on October 29, 2019, 06:36:29 pm
For anyone looking down on those trying to feed their families, a poignant reminder:
https://youtu.be/UN8gAlhSMDA
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: stonethecrows on November 25, 2019, 12:48:55 pm
Looks like Mo has come clean

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/essex-lorry-deaths-driver-mo-robinson-admits-being-part-of-an-international-smuggling-ring/ar-BBXhWpD?li=BBr5KbJ (https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/essex-lorry-deaths-driver-mo-robinson-admits-being-part-of-an-international-smuggling-ring/ar-BBXhWpD?li=BBr5KbJ)
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on November 25, 2019, 03:21:23 pm
didye see there was a fella found brown in a container up in The 'Mun today.
poor fella was trying to get out of the kip for a better life.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: stonethecrows on November 25, 2019, 03:34:46 pm
didye see there was a fella found brown in a container up in The 'Mun today.
poor fella was trying to get out of the kip for a better life.
Gud One Doc
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: silverbullet on November 25, 2019, 07:41:55 pm
didye see there was a fella found brown in a container up in The 'Mun today.
poor fella was trying to get out of the kip for a better life.
IKEA Heights..
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: markmiwurdz on November 25, 2019, 09:01:20 pm
didye see there was a fella found brown in a container up in The 'Mun today.
poor fella was trying to get out of the kip for a better life.
IKEA Heights..

Crack Hill.
Title: Re: Thirty nine bodies discovered in container in Essex
Post by: Vikkiz on November 25, 2019, 09:51:12 pm
didye see there was a fella found brown in a container up in The 'Mun today.
poor fella was trying to get out of the kip for a better life.
I heard the person found is a mate of the youngfella killed in Clonshaugh yesterday