Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: dublin2018 on February 07, 2020, 06:25:14 am
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I've noticed in the City less and less FREENOW branding on taxis seems to be less every night Im out .I think they pissed off the drivers with 15% rofl rofl.Maybe its just throwing the rattler out of the pram.The Germans will respond to them rapidly id say. ::fight
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Fair play to them for stopping all this free advertising but i bet you the sneaky slimey spastics are still using the app.
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Could it that im finally going to get my wish,and drivers will dispense with dispatchers and go back to the old conventional way of inviting punters to JUST STICK THEIR HAND OUT ?
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Could it that im finally going to get my wish,and drivers will dispense with dispatchers and go back to the old conventional way of inviting punters to JUST STICK THEIR HAND OUT ?
Probaby not
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Could it that im finally going to get my wish,and drivers will dispense with dispatchers and go back to the old conventional way of inviting punters to JUST STICK THEIR HAND OUT ?
No.. I gave up on free now and took the stickers off but went straight back to a dispatcher....
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Fair play to them for stopping all this free advertising but i bet you the sneaky slimey spastics are still using the app.
As Ambassadors !
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Yep... I know of 2 drivers doing that while now but still scum in my opinion.
Me personally im app free and radio free since the new year and so far it hasn't made much of a difference on my income to previous January's
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Yep... I know of 2 drivers doing that while now but still scum in my opinion.
Me personally im app free and radio free since the new year and so far it hasn't made much of a difference on my income to previous January's
Interesting T are you still putting in the same amount of hours ?
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Some lads are paying them a serious amount of commission and giving away free advertising.Maybe the honeymoon period has ended.I'd say more would remove the branding if they knew how to do it safely without damaging the paint.
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Some lads are paying them a serious amount of commission and giving away free advertising.Maybe the honeymoon period has ended.I'd say more would remove the branding if they knew how to do it safely without damaging the paint.
Yes but still operate as "Undercover Ambassadors" and get preference over the rest of us ordinary scum.
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The one thing I can never understand about drivers is,you seem to think if dispatchers were gone from the industry,that people would stop using taxis .how do you come to that conclusion ? all this would mean is,you have rid the industry of these people who seem to think they are your employers,you would create a level playing feild,you would not be subject to outside interference in YOUR business,you would have no fees to pay to anyone etc etc yet inspite of all that you would rather be told how to run tour own business,and be treated like an employee ? I just dont get it
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The one thing I can never understand about drivers is,you seem to think if dispatchers were gone from the industry,that people would stop using taxis .how do you come to that conclusion ? all this would mean is,you have rid the industry of these people who seem to think they are your employers,you would create a level playing feild,you would not be subject to outside interference in YOUR business,you would have no fees to pay to anyone etc etc yet inspite of all that you would rather be told how to run tour own business,and be treated like an employee ? I just dont get it
Well said DM , cash is king (until we are forced to offer CC facility)
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This is something else I dont get .you CANNOT be forced to offer CC facilities,fot two reasons.firstly I would suggest it is completely against to force any trader in any business into any particular method of payment for the product they are trading,and secondly if every taxi driver tells them to fukk off there is nothing they can do.the same with dispatchers tell them to fukk off ,your taking back your industry
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Cash is dead, even in the remotest of spots. Lap-dancers in French-Indo China all carry card readers.
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The thing I have a problem with is, I would not mind accepting CC,but I have a problem with it when im told I HAVE to accept it.the NTA have no right to enforce that on any taxi driver.no to mention your tips are almost a thing of the past,your earnings are wide open to scrutiny by people whos business it isnone of etc,
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Is ther more long journeys coming up on it too....or is it just me imaginative
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I agree and disagree with you, DM.
Before 1978 taxis didn't even have roof signs. It was a novelty to be flagged down. Folk generally telephoned for cabs and the vast majority of drivers were aligned to radio groups hence punters just sticking their hands out was a relatively new convention - a fad that seems to have passed, if you like.
Who the fuck are NTA to tell us we are no longer entitled to legal tender? We will be the only citizens in the State who are forced to accept credit risk. It's like we're the scum of the earth and they're telling people that can pay us or not as they want. What happens when kids start using signal blockers and tell you to go fuck yourself if you can't take their card because you're not legally entitled to be paid anymore? What happens when kids start buying fake and cloned cards for 50c each and we have to give our wages back to the banks and pay the banks fees of €54.80 for the privilege of giving them back each fare we're no longer entitled to? What happens when a mobile network fails and you client says sorry you're not legally entitled to legal tender, go forth and multiply? etc??
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Yep... I know of 2 drivers doing that while now but still scum in my opinion.
Me personally im app free and radio free since the new year and so far it hasn't made much of a difference on my income to previous January's
Interesting T are you still putting in the same amount of hours ?
Im actually doing less since my dice with death, probably around 40 a week and i don't work weekends
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When a problem arises with businesses in Dublin city centre,the first person on tv to complain is Michael Guiney leader of Dublin chamber of commerce.could you just imagine his members being told they had to accept CC payment from now on.
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I honestly feel the NTA are out of their dept here by insisting that taxi drivers have to accept thay method of payment.im surprised TTNH have not sought legal advice on this on behalf of their members,or at leastget it established if the the NTA have the right to make such a proposal mandatory
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When a problem arises with businesses in Dublin city centre,the first person on tv to complain is Michael Guiney leader of Dublin chamber of commerce.could you just imagine his members being told they had to accept CC payment from now on.
Probably explains why the Moore Street Traders are closing shop :
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/moore-street-traders-may-shut-up-shop-after-200-years-1.4039524 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/moore-street-traders-may-shut-up-shop-after-200-years-1.4039524)
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I honestly feel the NTA are out of their dept here by insisting that taxi drivers have to accept thay method of payment.im surprised TTNH have not sought legal advice on this on behalf of their members,or at leastget it established if the the NTA have the right to make such a proposal mandatory
Can you pay be card on a bus...tap or pin?
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I honestly feel the NTA are out of their dept here by insisting that taxi drivers have to accept thay method of payment.im surprised TTNH have not sought legal advice on this on behalf of their members,or at leastget it established if the the NTA have the right to make such a proposal mandatory
Can you pay be card on a bus...tap or pin?
Leap Card
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FFS... you can't even use a bank card as a virtual LEAP card... fucking backward system... and all NTA is interested in is making paying taxi fares optional.
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I honestly feel the NTA are out of their dept here by insisting that taxi drivers have to accept thay method of payment.im surprised TTNH have not sought legal advice on this on behalf of their members,or at leastget it established if the the NTA have the right to make such a proposal mandatory
Can you pay be card on a bus...tap or pin?
Leap Card
No...not leap card...i meant using your bank card...tap or pin?
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The fact that I keep hammering is you should not be told you HAVE to offer these facilities.as far as I am aware ,nowhere in law is it written that a trader HAS to offer a particular method of payment for the product he sells,so I cannot see how the NTA feel they have the right to introduce this,and I urge TTNH to challenge it
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Blame Central Banks Dayer. The average 5' 8" hasn't a fucking clue about how the game works....he thinks there's an app for when they go to heaven.
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Three young women in there thirties are on a road trip and are tearing down the freeway. unfortunatley, they lose control, the car flips over the guard rail on to the opposite lanes and gets smashed by an eighteen wheeler.
Up at the pearly gates, all three of them are greeted by St. Peter. He tells them. "All of you led very good lives down on earth, so all of you will be asmitted into paradise. The only rule: "DON'T STEP ON THE DUCKS."
Confused, they all ask "Um ... what?"
St. Peter says "If you step on one duck, it quacks. If a duck quacks, other ducks will start quacking, and ... well ... you'll see."
With that, the gates opened and the three waltzed inside. And, sure enough, All of heaven is covered with ducks. there is almost no room to walk with the millions of ducks.
A day of careful stepping later, the first woman steps on a duck. Seconds later, every single duck in heaven is quacking. It's so loud the women aren't suprised if earth could hear it. Hours later, when the quacking ceased, an angel appears with a very ugly man and chains him to the lady and tells her this is her eternal punishment for the duck-stepping.
Not wanting the same fate, the other two women become very cautious for the next week, but sure enough, the second lady steps on a duck.
She gets the same punishment as the first lady.
The third lady becomes so careful that, a year-and-a-half later, she is still duck-free. Then, an angel appears next to her with a very handsome man and chains him to her.
Thinking that this must be a reward for her good-doing she asks the man gleefully "What did I do to deserve this?"
And the man replies with a grimace, "I don't know about you, but I stepped on a duck."
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The fact that I keep hammering is you should not be told you HAVE to offer these facilities.as far as I am aware ,nowhere in law is it written that a trader HAS to offer a particular method of payment for the product he sells,so I cannot see how the NTA feel they have the right to introduce this,and I urge TTNH to challenge it
Correct. A person who incurs a debt is obliged to discharge it with legal tender. A person owed a debt may accept less but is entitled to legal tender. Remove that entitlement and you effectively remove any legal right to the money you are owed. This is just NTA telling riders that we are scum and that they don't have to pay us unless they want to.
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So will TTNH oppose this unjust,illegal instruction from the NTA to drivers that the must offer CC facilities ?
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Your guess is as good as mine... no sign of them doing anything in the last 5 years other than complain about rickshaw drivers muscling in on their drivers' drug dealing.
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There are many reasons why drivers might like to offer CC facilities,but being instructed to by the NTA has to be in breech of the law. They have no legal right to instruct a driver how he should accept payment.here is one example take the case of ( say) a husband and wife splitting up,and she tries to get the court to determine a weekly amount he should pay her based on his average weekly earnings.the fact that his weekly earnings is now recorded as a result of him having to offer CC facilities,makes her case for her
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Probably helps the tax man too.
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So will TTNH oppose this unjust,illegal instruction from the NTA to drivers that the must offer CC facilities ?
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Difference is having to offer cc facilities and actually taking cc payments is a whole different kettle of fish
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I dont understand.if its now MANDATORY for us to offer such facilities,then how can you refuse ?
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https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Fact_Sheet_on_National_Maximum_Taxi_Fare_Review_2019.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Fact_Sheet_on_National_Maximum_Taxi_Fare_Review_2019.pdf)
Mandatory acceptance of card payments in taxis is also proposed to be introduced in tandem with this
fare adjustment, and an allowance has been included in the proposed adjustment, under the heading
Miscellaneous Running Costs, to take account of additional costs arising.
(2nd page; Misc Costs in the Document are approx €500).
Right now, you can ask upfront for the cash money if you think you won't get paid at the end of the journey. If we *have* to accept cards, could you charge the passenger 1cent at the beginning to prove their card works before you start the journey. Wouldn't stop the more sophistcated scams but it might put regular punters off using cards?
A forced scheme like this plays into the hands of FN etc who can handle card verification/declined payments/etc that we can't do alone as sole traders.
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I dont understand.if its now MANDATORY for us to offer such facilities,then how can you refuse ?
Sorry boss,it's not workin....
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Yeah got ya.but surely this is another reason you should all throw your weight behind opposing this ?
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I dont understand.if its now MANDATORY for us to offer such facilities,then how can you refuse ?
Sorry boss,it's not workin....
Apology accepted bud/bro... but I don't carry cash and you're not legally entitled to cash. Take the fare off my card and/or go fuck yourself.
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Yep... I know of 2 drivers doing that while now but still scum in my opinion.
Me personally im app free and radio free since the new year and so far it hasn't made much of a difference on my income to previous January's
Im the same Tony I find im making more money now, and Ive more job appreciation, as Im getting FULL fares.The 15% was the BYE BYE Freenow for me .Be interesting to see how many less FREENOW cars with branding tonight.Unreal I never thought id see the day easy come easy go
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I wonder. Didn't the CC system for shops break down last year and most of the city centre shops put up signs 'cash only'. I don't think people were able to walk out of shops with stuff just because they couldn't pay by card.
It'll be interesting to see how it's phrased if/when it happens.
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I nearly getting an orgasim at the prospect of you seeing the light at last.FUKK ALL DISPATCHERS YOU DONT NEED THEM
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I nearly getting an orgasim at the prospect of you seeing the light at last.FUKK ALL DISPATCHERS YOU DONT NEED THEM
Your 100% Dalymount .Ive had the best week ive had in months, seeking my own fares,While the freenow lads doing the 30% discounts .But I do worry if they taking branding off they might start doing street work again :o.Ill see tonight when im in city how many Donut munchers branded .Id say the Germans will be looking to rofl
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Im not so much down on F/N as I am on those radio dispatch bastards who treat the drivers like they were employees.how fukkin dare they treat drivers the way they do by making them wear uniforms,(which they must pay for) offer discounts to the customers (at the drivers ) expense ,and here is the one that REALLY kills me.actually TAKING DISCIPLINARY ACTION against drivers if they dont fall in line.I dont know who I blame more ,them for introducing such shite, or the drivers for putting up with it.when you think about it,the DRIVERS employ those cunts simply to provide work nothing else,yet here are the drivers allowing their businesses to be dictated to
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Im not so much down on F/N as I am on those radio dispatch bastards who treat the drivers like they were employees.how fukkin dare they treat drivers the way they do by making them wear uniforms,(which they must pay for) offer discounts to the customers (at the drivers ) expense ,and here is the one that REALLY kills me.actually TAKING DISCIPLINARY ACTION against drivers if they dont fall in line.I dont know who I blame more ,them for introducing such shite, or the drivers for putting up with it.when you think about it,the DRIVERS employ those cunts simply to provide work nothing else,yet here are the drivers allowing their businesses to be dictated to
FREENOW are worse Call centres, massive discounts,Ambassador programs, and they decide what work you get, not you.They will take full control. Dispatch companys will become like the old record player or CD players obsolete if they dont go with the times ,everyone has a smartphone.Obviously if drivers are taking off Branding,freenow has crossed a redline.The Germans need to rethink there strategy.Oul Bill from Freenow be out hunting his Ambassadors tonight rofl
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in truth,ABSOLUTELY NO DIST IS NEEDED.drivers can operate without them,but they cannoy operate without drivers.yet drivers STILL bow the knee to this scum would be employers,Why ffs ?
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I dont understand.if its now MANDATORY for us to offer such facilities,then how can you refuse ?
Sorry boss,it's not workin....
Apology accepted bud/bro... but I don't carry cash and you're not legally entitled to cash. Take the fare off my card and/or go fuck yourself.
Establish that before the journey commences ,tell them your machine is kaput so it's either cash or ATM or gas,grass or ass as an alternative.
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The point is,the use of CC facilities by a driver should be optional,buy NOT because the NTA say we have to.this is completely illegal for them to try an enforce method of paymemt on us,that some would rather not use.I for one will make it my business to take legal advice on if TTNH ate not going to
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So will TTNH oppose this unjust,illegal instruction from the NTA to drivers that the must offer CC facilities ?
Don't know DM, are you a member, have you the right to tell them what to do. Maybe make a stand yourself rather than keyboard. A strong letter to the Times first and then a letter to NTA confirming your refusal to take ccs.
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I suppose its a bit like us having to have a first aid kit, how many of us actually know what to do with it or want to know for that matter ?
Fckn silly rule, it should have been mandatory for us all to have a first aid course at least, but then again maybe the NTA know best
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Im not so much down on F/N as I am on those radio dispatch bastards who treat the drivers like they were employees.how fukkin dare they treat drivers the way they do by making them wear uniforms,(which they must pay for) offer discounts to the customers (at the drivers ) expense ,and here is the one that REALLY kills me.actually TAKING DISCIPLINARY ACTION against drivers if they dont fall in line.I dont know who I blame more ,them for introducing such shite, or the drivers for putting up with it.when you think about it,the DRIVERS employ those cunts simply to provide work nothing else,yet here are the drivers allowing their businesses to be dictated to
As far as disciplinary action goes drivers probably get away with a lot more with Irish dispatch firms than they would with Free Now. It's probably a cultural thing... the Irish see rules more as guidelines whereas the Germans and British are a lot more literal. A boss (kinda boss, I was actually self-employed) of mine across the water explained it to me as follows... If you put up a simple sign in the London office which says "Jackets must not be hung on the backs of seats" there would be no jackets hung on seats but if you done the same in the Dublin office the jackets will be on the backs of seats as normal and someone might go to the trouble of asking why you made such a "proposal". Anywaysanall, Free Now doesn't take any shit from drivers... break the rules and you will be sacked.
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Establish that before the journey commences ,tell them your machine is kaput so it's either cash or ATM or gas,grass or ass as an alternative.
So, you're gonna have to ask every passenger how he intends to pay before you move. Even at that you're gonna end up being reported to NTA by every disgruntled card payer you refuse... and what about the lads on the (unofficial) rank behind you, if they see you fuck the passenger out they're gonna hit the central locking and refuse them too... or at least encourage them to report you. No doubt we'll be hearing about all dem blax not taking card customers anall...
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Well I was 100% right ......I was in in the city from 8pm till 4.45am.I counted 14 FREENOW ,1 FLAG, 4 TAXY and 2 MYTAXI.A few weeks ago they were everywhere FREENOW cars.As far a I could see Breadvans were ALL stripped of branding only odd one branding .Obviously your hailed and you pay 15% am I right????.Or drivers dont want FREENOW.Bill will be very angry.The NTA got a illegal taxi tonight on westmorland st they going around now like Garda with yolks hanging off there belts rofl.He put the Taxi roofsign in the NTA patrol car.
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I joined Taxy myself. Had it running in the background for my entire shift last night (3 hours) and didn't get any job offers. I won't run it tonight on account of the Free Now bonus but I'll keep trying it after that. Anyone else using it?
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I joined Taxy myself. Had it running in the background for my entire shift last night (3 hours) and didn't get any job offers. I won't run it tonight on account of the Free Now bonus but I'll keep trying it after that. Anyone else using it?
I got 3 jobs this week off it TAXY.. €23 €35 €10, its a start.. but I did well off the street monday to friday.Monday was good, tuesday ok ,weds ok, Thursday very busy ,Friday busy 10pm till 3.30am..Overall im making more money now that im FREE-NOW.Im not driving to jobs, im going where i know i get work rapidly and massive fuel savings and obviously wear and tear on the vehicle
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Can't find a non Free Now job for love or money myself if it's any way busy. Dunno what I'm doing wrong, I leave the light on after accepting every job with a view to cancelling if flagged but I'm just not being flagged of a Friday, Saturday or Sunday (& Monday this week). I'll give Taxy a try for a while, if I'm still getting nothing off that I'll go back to Uber as my secondary app.
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Would ya not just try street work rat ? Here 18 I betcha your tips were greatly improved not that you just done street work
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Specifically on Taxy, D2018 -
Are you running it in the foreground i.e. do you keep it visible on your screen?
Where you number 1 on the parking every time you got a job (or did you notice)? i.e. are jobs dispatched to the first parked driver or nearest car?
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Would ya not just try street work rat ? Here 18 I betcha your tips were greatly improved not that you just done street work
I am, DM. I drive around the Northside suburbs with the light on, I'm just not getting flagged, particularly at weekends it's all app work.
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P.S. I washed the car (outside) on the way home last night so at least the racists should be able to see that I'm white while I'm driving around tonight... maybe that'll help... but I think the main problem is I can't drive for much more than a mile without a Free Now offer but, like I said, I'm still hunting after accepting. It'd be crazy to reject jobs with non city northside destinations.... a bird in the bed and all that...