Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: john m on July 08, 2020, 09:51:34 am
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https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/taxis-under-pressure-to-switch-to-electric-1.4295367?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Flife-and-style%2Fmotors%2Ftaxis-under-pressure-to-switch-to-elec (https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/taxis-under-pressure-to-switch-to-electric-1.4295367?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Flife-and-style%2Fmotors%2Ftaxis-under-pressure-to-switch-to-elec)
Taxis under pressure to switch to electric
Programme for Government says taxis have ‘disproportionate impact’ on air quality
With taxis having much higher mileages than an average private car, they are seen as a crucial battleground in the fight against climate change
The new Governmeent is expected to bring ever-increasing pressure on the taxi industry to switch from its current diesel-heavy fleet to electric cars.
As with consumers and business fleets, taxi operators have been put on the same 10-year notice that sales of petrol and diesel cars will end in 2030, and all new-car purchases will have to be electric. The Programme for Government, however, takes special aim at taxis, saying that: “The taxi fleet has a disproportionate impact on air quality and climate emissions in urban centres.” The three parties go on to say that they will continue to support “the greening of the fleet” and will continue to provide financial incentives to switch to both battery-electric vehicles (EVs) as well as plugin-hybrid vehicles.
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Ken there might be increased Grants if your changing car .
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Hiw many gold stars is that worth to him I wonder ?
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Taxis under pressure to switch to electric
Programme for Government says taxis have ‘disproportionate impact’ on air quality
Imagine the impact Free Now are having on Emissions by not allotting the job to the nearest taxi but giving it to their indentured Slaves .Watch as what I predicted comes true .Free Now will run their own fleets with drivers paying per shift for car rental and Free Now will feed them the work you gave them access to .
Greens have taken over the assylum .Remember when I suggested to defend our business we should of made a political stand and gotten somebody elected ,back then the Greens had 1td and 3 councillors nationwide Profit from the People had 1 councillor no TDs ,Social democrats were unheard of .Your lucky Dalymount your on your way out of the Game .I was hoping to subsidise my pension with it but I think thats not going to happen now .
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I'm not feeling any pressure to go electric are yous?
Vinny is incorrect to say the Tesla model 3 does not pass suitability.There's one down in Cork plated up.It was mentioned on here.Anyway they're €48000 before grants so not a chance.
The NTA could easily have offered grants off the regular hybrids that are much cleaner than diesels but they didn't bother their arses.
The fact that this is in the lifestyle section of the Irish Times says it all.Not really a story.
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Merc we should of been spoken with and a deal lets say No VRT no VAT should of been on the table offering a subsidy that only brings the price down to the same as a new Diesel was never going to be an incentive .
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There's very little VRT on a hybrid and zero VRT on a leccy car already.
Unless they make diesels significantly more expensive to plate up there won't be any change.
I'll repeat this...there is no Hybrid or electric wheelchair accessible vehicle on the Irish or Uk market for under 50/60k.
It's not even an option.So I'm not feeling any pressure while the wheelchair fleet is plodding away in their diesel vans.
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I don't really understand them giving grants for plug in hybrids....not worth a jaysus wank,40miles(at a push) on a charge and it then becomes a normal regenerative braking hybrid and on the model i had a look at in my local Toyota dealer..it only has room for two in the rear!! lol......the newer model takes three now afaik......doggers love three in the rear....so i heard!!
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I dont think we really need to worry .This government wont last pissing time .The Greens will be back down to 2 TDs after the Election and the Country will be broke after Brexit Taxi industry will boom as like the 1970s most people wont be able to afford to own and run a car .I read over the Programme for Government It would cost about 30 Billion over the first five years our government dont have fifty euro .Green party leadership vote is due in a few weeks whichever side loses will start stirring it .I read that FF are looking for a Rat among their own who grassed out Cowan .A lot of dissapointed men who didnt get Ministers cars and coin .Budget is due in September could be like FG in 1981 something small like VAT on Childrens shoes could bring the whole lot down .Greens might think they got something that the others wont give them and pull the plug or the raal Barry Cowan scandal might surface the drink driving thing might just be a sighter ??????????????.
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I want free Tesla.If the greens care so much about air quality can can just buy them for us but we will pay for the electricity.The cost could be offset in carbon credits or some nonsense.Loadabolox.
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Blah blah blah......still haven't addressed infrastructure.....the whole taxi fleet electric,not everyone can charge a car at home ...and not everyone who works in Dublin lives in Dublin....it's the usual....make a popular statement with no actual substance.
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Green Policies as Pat Rabbitt said "Sure ya would say anything at election time to get elected "What we will see is Traffic regulation by Frustration .Block College Green then access to car parks which will then be demolished and office blocks built on the sites or appartments people will be forced on to public transport by frustration .The future for the taxi industry might be bright after all .I think there is a plan to ban private cars from O connell Street so access to Ilac carpark will be restricted easier to take a taxi or bus than try to park .Same on South Willian if its blocked how do you access the car park .The cunt selling the 4euro cup of Tea or Coffee on the highway wont have any customers as they wont be able to get into town and park .City Center will Die out of town shopping will be the new day out .
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Look lads ...johnny an merco ....probably the 2 brainer ( is that a word ?) Blokes on here .....but before yis speculations anyfuther ......look wat yur dealing wit
https://youtu.be/N5zkwkFPzHc
https://m.independent.ie/videos/well-have-our-salads-ready-to-go-eamon-ryan-proposes-public-grow-their-own-food-39060433.html
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Blah blah blah......still haven't addressed infrastructure.....the whole taxi fleet electric,not everyone can charge a car at home ...and not everyone who works in Dublin lives in Dublin....it's the usual....make a popular statement with no actual substance.
Hey Driver will you take me to Dunboyne ..Fuck off and walk you cunt me battery is nearly gone .I wonder will drivers of electric cars still have to drive back from the airport empty and waste their electricity .
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^^^^Yer man Ryan is a looper alright.He drives an old diesel VW Caravelle.Probably spews out more shit than all of our Priuses put together.
Anyway did yis know the Corpo have turned Grangegorman into a dead end?Only happened two days ago to facilitate some bicycle lanes.That was a great little shortcut and now it's gone...just like that.
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Anyway did yis know the Corpo have turned Grangegorman into a dead end?Only happened two days ago to facilitate some bicycle lanes.That was a great little shortcut and now it's gone...just like that.
Can you still get down as far as Kirwan St?
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Look lads ...johnny an merco ....probably the 2 brainer ( is that a word ?) Blokes on here .....but before yis speculations anyfuther ......look wat yur dealing wit
https://youtu.be/N5zkwkFPzHc
https://m.independent.ie/videos/well-have-our-salads-ready-to-go-eamon-ryan-proposes-public-grow-their-own-food-39060433.html
Occi politics is me hobby .Albert shit on the PDs just after he done his deal saying it was a nasty little arangement or something .FF/FG think the Greens are arse wipe paper and will treat them that way .The present government have achieved what they set out to achieve .They FF/FG have signalled to both sets of supporters the new reality .Vote No 1 FF and continue your prefrence for FG and vice versa .The message has been sent loud and clear and both parties supporters voted for it when they agreed to form a government .The Greens got about 8 of their seats from SF residual votes but they never paid back that vote by staying out of government so wont get that next time .
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^^^^^^No Hal they've put up a barrier just at the College so no through way from either side.Proper pain as I use that road a lot.
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Blah blah blah......still haven't addressed infrastructure.....the whole taxi fleet electric,not everyone can charge a car at home ...and not everyone who works in Dublin lives in Dublin....it's the usual....make a popular statement with no actual substance.
Hey Driver will you take me to Dunboyne ..Fuck off and walk you cunt me battery is nearly gone .I wonder will drivers of electric cars still have to drive back from the airport empty and waste their electricity .
No problem....the freenow tow trucks will be available to tow the freenow owned state the art fully electric cripple friendly zero emissions vehicles in the unlikely event they run out of green energy from the windmills .
That's wat freenow is saying to eamonn rite now in the back room o the dail ....havin earl grey and dougnuts wit sprinkles
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Anyway did yis know the Corpo have turned Grangegorman into a dead end?Only happened two days ago to facilitate some bicycle lanes.That was a great little shortcut and now it's gone...just like that.
Can you still get down as far as Kirwan St?
Hal why would we want short cuts it on the meter ?
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Anyway did yis know the Corpo have turned Grangegorman into a dead end?Only happened two days ago to facilitate some bicycle lanes.That was a great little shortcut and now it's gone...just like that.
Can you still get down as far as Kirwan St?
Hal why would we want short cuts it on the meter ?
If you still had to go up Kirwan St and back down Stoneybatter it would still be a longer fare.....anyhoo.....
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See traffic moderation by frustration .Wait till you see whats planned for Grattan Crescent ,Emmett Road .
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most road closures result in higher fares and nicer areas, not sure what the moaning is about
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Shortcuts are very useful for getting to fares.Especially app jobs.I can take jobs that google maps won't bring other drivers to in a short amount of time.Whether you choose to use them on the fare is up to yerself.
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Look lads ...johnny an merco ....probably the 2 brainer ( is that a word ?) Blokes on here .....but before yis speculations anyfuther ......look wat yur dealing wit
https://youtu.be/N5zkwkFPzHc
https://m.independent.ie/videos/well-have-our-salads-ready-to-go-eamon-ryan-proposes-public-grow-their-own-food-39060433.html
The guy (and the rest of them poxy greens) lives in an alternate world in his head which is a Utopian dream/nightmare.
Wrecks my fookin head even to look at the poxbottle.
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Green Policies as Pat Rabbitt said "Sure ya would say anything at election time to get elected "What we will see is Traffic regulation by Frustration .Block College Green then access to car parks which will then be demolished and office blocks built on the sites or appartments people will be forced on to public transport by frustration .The future for the taxi industry might be bright after all .I think there is a plan to ban private cars from O connell Street so access to Ilac carpark will be restricted easier to take a taxi or bus than try to park .Same on South Willian if its blocked how do you access the car park .The cunt selling the 4euro cup of Tea or Coffee on the highway wont have any customers as they wont be able to get into town and park .City Center will Die out of town shopping will be the new day out .
Sth WilliamSt car park is accessible from Clarendon St , If the proposed closing of Sth William st goes ahead, it is proposed to allow cars exiting the car park to turn right and onto Wicklow St.
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Anyway did yis know the Corpo have turned Grangegorman into a dead end?Only happened two days ago to facilitate some bicycle lanes.That was a great little shortcut and now it's gone...just like that.
Can you still get down as far as Kirwan St?
No
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Electric car owners will have to pay for using all public chargers from August 10.
Under the new payment system, it will cost them from €3.41 to boost a car battery by 100kms at a standard/slow-charge outlet.
ESB ecars, who run the system, say that represents a 40pc saving on fuelling a typical family diesel for the same distance.
Up to now EV and plug-in hybrid owners could use the standard network chargers (up to 22kW AC) for free at locations in cities, towns and villages.
The only outlets that involved payment, since November last, were the relatively small number of fast chargers - mostly on main routes. They cost from 30.5c per kWh.
But now, for the first time and after 10 years of free electricity, motorists will have to pay for the standard/slower AC chargers as well.
The decision has been taken after, and to continue with, a major upgrade of the national network, according to ESB ecars.
There are two payment methods for using a standard charger:
*Pay-As-You-Go (26.8c per kWh);
*Membership (23c per kWh and a €4.60 monthly subscription). ESB ecars say the latter is more suitable for anyone using the system more than five times a month.
Super high-power chargers (150kW) hubs will also be installed in the next while.
The majority of EV owners are expected to mostly charge their cars at home, so the public chargers will be mainly used to top-up over longer journeys.
It has been estimated that doing so could mean substantial savings on power costs compared with a diesel vehicle when night-rate electricity etc is taken into account.
ESB ecars says the standard-charger upgrades are part of an overall €20m investment in renewing and expanding the electric vehicle public charging network supported by the Irish government’s Climate Action Fund.
ESB ecars chief Niall Hogan said drivers are already seeing the benefits of investment in the system with “significant improvements in the reliability of the national network”.
According to ESB ecars typical savings in driving 100kms in an EV compared with a diesel car are:
https://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/electric-car-owners-will-have-to-pay-for-using-all-public-chargers-from-august-10-39350802.html (https://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/electric-car-owners-will-have-to-pay-for-using-all-public-chargers-from-august-10-39350802.html)
Have a look at the graph at the bottom to see what the real savings are .
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Notice the Savings are based against figures for high milage Diesels and only show a 21% saving I wonder if there are any real savings against Petrol propelled vehicles ?
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I think the Indo are very pro diesel for some unknown reason.Public chargers are meant for occasional use.If they're free people will block them when they have half battery just to get a freebie leaving others left with an empty battery.
If you own a leccy car it only really makes savings to charge it at home.
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Where is all this electricity going to come from to charge these motors ?If you live in an apartment where will the charger be .Cart before the horse sort of stuff .We implrt a lot of Electricity from the UK will it be subject to an import tax after Brexit ?
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The electricity comes from the socket.You have to plug it in..
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The electricity comes from the socket.You have to plug it in..
They are closing the turf stations .Greens want the Gas storage in Kerry and Cork closed so how do we fuel electricity generation ?
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If they could capture the gas and shite you spew John.....winner,winner.....lentil soup dinner.
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Hal the Green policy on Hunger .give everybody a Spoon a fork a knife and a plate then he will be ready to eat if he ever gets any food .
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I could only listen to Catherine Martin on Ivan Yates last night for about 30seconds(too long)..i thought she was talking in riddles,couldn't make a fukin point and Ivan Yates ran rings around her....and she wants to be leader....listening to Ryan or looking at her crooked mouth?
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If they could capture the gas and shite you spew John.....winner,winner.....lentil soup dinner.
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As we move to the new normal Govt will have more pressing issues to address where taxis are concerned. Many drivers have criticised colleagues for providing a service during the pandemic. The new normal must take that criticism into account in assessing how (or if) taxis ought to operate. Restricting cars to private hire may make sense. Resultant redundant ranks space could then be allocated to safer, healthier, environmentally friendlier alternatives such as bicycles, electric scooters and (electric) rickshaws. Incentives to promote car sharing among private motorists may be another option.
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I don't think car sharing is a workable solution in the current pandemic or even in to the future.
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It's worth looking at. Lockdown aimed to restrict contamination to households. Car sharing would establish "carholds" as we move into the new normal... so, instead of commuters travelling with different super spreader taxi drivers every day they would travel with the same driver, significantly reducing contact and risk. In practice groups could rotate driving duties under a designated driver sort of arrangement or they could have a permanent driver who would be entitled to expenses tax free... I think there is a little known scheme like that already in place so promoting it in the context of the new normal is all that would be required. Similar arrangements could be made on a commercial basis by licensed taxi firms for regular customers, I guess.
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Liftshare (https://liftshare.com/uk (https://liftshare.com/uk)) is being promoted by TfI ahead of it's intended Irish launch.
https://www.transportforireland.ie/getting-around/by-car/ (https://www.transportforireland.ie/getting-around/by-car/)
Carpooling Services
The carpooling services below offer administrative access and reporting information however there may be associated costs:
FAXI Groups are set up around single employers – not open to the general public. FAXI offers closed company groups with member access controlled by the group administrator.
Liftshare is one of the UK’s largest carpooling providers with App and online offerings. They are not currently operating in Ireland, but are planning on entering the market.
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How many people want to share their motor ?
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How many people want to share their motor ?
RC for one!!
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How many people want to share their motor ?
Probably not as many as desired hence the need to promote and incentivise.