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Title: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Theoneandonly on August 11, 2020, 07:50:38 am
What's the final word, remove it or leave it for the tests?
Has anyone here gone through either test with screen fitted?
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: watty on August 11, 2020, 09:44:30 am
There was a conversation on here a week or so ago but can't remember the consensus.

Don't know about NCT.  I've mine in 2 weeks and I'll be taking it out unless I hear otherwise.  Better safe than sorry.

Re suitability.  The official advice is that it's too complicated for them to give advice.  But there is a minimum seating distance in the rear for pax.  During the first week when things reopened, testers were failing everything because they said they were told nothing by the NTA.  Now you need a letter from your insurance.  If you're with Axa, that's automatic.  Ultimately, I think it's down to the mood of the tester on the day.  I think I'll be leaving my screen off for that as well.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: watty on August 11, 2020, 09:51:05 am
http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=12353.15 (http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=12353.15)

when I booked my sgs for next week the girl in the asked me did I have a screen. I said yes but I'm taking it out for the test. She said no need because I'm insured with axa and ata have already got informed by axa. Took my screen out for nct but while I was waiting I noticed 2 other taxis going through with the screens still fitted. Went over to both drivers when their cars came out and both passed.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: dalymount on August 11, 2020, 09:54:09 am
Just back 20 mins ,and passed
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: watty on August 11, 2020, 10:34:51 am
with or without the screen!
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: dalymount on August 11, 2020, 10:44:05 am
Without a screen .I cannot understand why any driver would install something that is not mandatory,and potentially causing themselves
MORE problems
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Billy boy on August 11, 2020, 11:03:37 am
Without a screen .I cannot understand why any driver would install something that is not mandatory,and potentially causing themselves
MORE problems
maybe just to keep themselves a little bit safer. Have you ever thought of that DM especially at your age and health condition.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Theoneandonly on August 11, 2020, 11:11:17 am
Without a screen .I cannot understand why any driver would install something that is not mandatory,and potentially causing themselves
MORE problems

You don't understand drivers not wanting to get Covid?

It's similar to using Free now or a dispatcher because you need to earn a living.

Took the screen out for the test, meant to ask what the story was but forgot in the excitement of passing ... sorry
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Billy boy on August 11, 2020, 12:08:27 pm
[url]http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=12353.15[/url] ([url]http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=12353.15[/url])

when I booked my sgs for next week the girl in the asked me did I have a screen. I said yes but I'm taking it out for the test. She said no need because I'm insured with axa and ata have already got informed by axa. Took my screen out for nct but while I was waiting I noticed 2 other taxis going through with the screens still fitted. Went over to both drivers when their cars came out and both passed.

I don't know weather those screens were permanently fitted to the floor and ceiling of the car. Apparently it's a fail if the screen is secured to the head rests. Has anyone on here passed with a free now screen? And apparently you are only insured if the screen meets nta requirements which the free now screens don't because its secured to the head rests.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Jonno on August 11, 2020, 12:24:08 pm
[url]http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=12353.15[/url] ([url]http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=12353.15[/url])

when I booked my sgs for next week the girl in the asked me did I have a screen. I said yes but I'm taking it out for the test. She said no need because I'm insured with axa and ata have already got informed by axa. Took my screen out for nct but while I was waiting I noticed 2 other taxis going through with the screens still fitted. Went over to both drivers when their cars came out and both passed.

I don't know weather those screens were permanently fitted to the floor and ceiling of the car. Apparently it's a fail if the screen is secured to the head rests. Has anyone on here passed with a free now screen? And apparently you are only insured if the screen meets nta requirements which the free now screens don't because its secured to the head rests.
If the nta has agreed with AXA that they will cover cars with screens installed, then I assume that the only other stipulation is that it meets the spec required. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200811/3b8572a9a1da9597315ac2f65077cb11.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200811/cf82a79d47006411058163525a0e9951.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200811/afb478c0115d9b288e5b3d8421a6397d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Theoneandonly on August 11, 2020, 12:30:03 pm
I have a letter stating from  AXA saying exactly this:

We have been informed a perspex screen has been fitted to prevent the spread of Covid 19 and policy cover remains in place.

That'll do me for my FN screen
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: dalymount on August 11, 2020, 12:47:28 pm
Without a screen .I cannot understand why any driver would install something that is not mandatory,and potentially causing themselves
MORE problems

You don't understand drivers not wanting to get Covid?

It's similar to using Free now or a dispatcher because you need to earn a living.

Took the screen out for the test, meant to ask what the story was but forgot in the excitement of passing ... sorry
its those same dispatchers you yalk about who brought this screen crap in.not because they were concerned fpr ypur welfare,but because they wanted to promote their own companies at your expense.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Shallowhal on August 11, 2020, 01:32:43 pm
My next door neighbour is an NCT inspector(Drog)....he said they're not failing them as long as the seats can move...and they haven't failed any yet,
In the NTA guideline PDF,it doesn't say that the screen can't be attached to the headrest but that the movement of the headrest is not restricted,
When getting my daisies refitted last week the two lads from the NTA said they weren't a fail at suitability,i told them i had a screen but removed it in case there was a problem,they said that they had encountered a couple of homemade screens of very poor quality(only behind the driver) and quite dangerous looking.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Billy boy on August 11, 2020, 02:19:41 pm
Without a screen .I cannot understand why any driver would install something that is not mandatory,and potentially causing themselves
MORE problems

You don't understand drivers not wanting to get Covid?

It's similar to using Free now or a dispatcher because you need to earn a living.

Took the screen out for the test, meant to ask what the story was but forgot in the excitement of passing ... sorry
its those same dispatchers you yalk about who brought this screen crap in.not because they were concerned fpr ypur welfare,but because they wanted to promote their own companies at your expense.
there is not one dispatcher out there that's making it mandatory for drivers to get screens. They are making them available for a knock down price if you want one. If you don't want to spend €50 on a screen to give you a little bit of protection at your age, not to mention all your health problems, that's your problem. If you had a screen it would get you a bit of extra work to keep up with all the expenses that comes with running a taxi..
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Shallowhal on August 11, 2020, 02:32:15 pm
With regard to FN and possibly Lynk,you are definitely being excluded from some(maybe a lot of) work if you don't have a screen,they're just not saying it's not mandatory,
The public(passengers) perception is that screens offer some protection and is better than nothing.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: dalymount on August 11, 2020, 05:10:14 pm
Spot on Hal.they have created a situation that if you dont get a screen ( and promote their company) you will get no work
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Jonno on August 11, 2020, 05:23:13 pm
Without a screen .I cannot understand why any driver would install something that is not mandatory,and potentially causing themselves
MORE problems

You don't understand drivers not wanting to get Covid?

It's similar to using Free now or a dispatcher because you need to earn a living.

Took the screen out for the test, meant to ask what the story was but forgot in the excitement of passing ... sorry
its those same dispatchers you yalk about who brought this screen crap in.not because they were concerned fpr ypur welfare,but because they wanted to promote their own companies at your expense.
there is not one dispatcher out there that's making it mandatory for drivers to get screens. They are making them available for a knock down price if you want one. If you don't want to spend €50 on a screen to give you a little bit of protection at your age, not to mention all your health problems, that's your problem. If you had a screen it would get you a bit of extra work to keep up with all the expenses that comes with running a taxi..
Now that we're in the middle of a global pandemic, if someone does one of those out-of-the-blue uncontrollable sneezes behind me, (I did one at home today myself. Everyone does them) I'd prefer to look in the rear view and see the snot running down the screen than feel the wet on the back of my neck. We could drill down into the micro detail about airborne particles etc, but I'm happy enough to have one.

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Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Theoneandonly on August 11, 2020, 06:46:56 pm
Spot on Hal.they have created a situation that if you dont get a screen ( and promote their company) you will get no work

I got my first screen long before any of the dispatchers began promoting them, for my own safety, I then bought the FN one because it was good value and better
Will you not consider your own safety and stop being so belligerent
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: dalymount on August 11, 2020, 08:15:06 pm
Nothing to do with belligerence toao,the fact is I work a very limited number of hours a week,and I want to incur as little expense as possible.at the moment im grossing roughly about 200 euro a week for my approx 12/14 hours a week.this does not even justify the cost of staying in the industry.but I like to go out occasionally more for a breath of fresh air then anything else.its handy to go out to howth of an evening,and sometimes get a fare or two on the way
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 12, 2020, 05:10:29 pm
Ifn you wore a younger man's clothes you could claim PUP at that rate.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Jonno on August 12, 2020, 05:26:02 pm
Ifn you wore a younger man's clothes you could claim PUP at that rate.
Super weather for wearing a mask.

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Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: dalymount on August 12, 2020, 10:17:34 pm
Ifn you wore a younger man's clothes you could claim PUP at that rate.
unfortunately age cones to us all
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 12, 2020, 10:53:27 pm
Ifn we're lucky!
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Shallowhal on August 12, 2020, 11:17:12 pm
Yeah....don't fear the reaper!!
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: watty on August 21, 2020, 07:08:42 pm
Just to add to the sum of human knowledge...

Did the NCT today.  Took the FN screen out but asked the guy about it afterwards.  He said it was none of his business.  They don't look at them, don't test them, nada.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: silverbullet on August 21, 2020, 07:10:51 pm
Just to add to the sum of human knowledge...

Did the NCT today.  Took the FN screen out but asked the guy about it afterwards.  He said it was none of his business.  They don't look at them, don't test them, nada.
So do you have to put the full taxi insurance back on the car just for the LRA?
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Shallowhal on August 21, 2020, 07:16:37 pm
Just to add to the sum of human knowledge...

Did the NCT today.  Took the FN screen out but asked the guy about it afterwards.  He said it was none of his business.  They don't look at them, don't test them, nada.
So do you have to put the full taxi insurance back on the car just for the LRA?

That's a given SB....my email was scrutinised just getting the daisies on.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 21, 2020, 10:01:51 pm
Still haven't got that transcript I was promised...
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: silverbullet on August 24, 2020, 02:26:11 pm
Just to add to the sum of human knowledge...

Did the NCT today.  Took the FN screen out but asked the guy about it afterwards.  He said it was none of his business.  They don't look at them, don't test them, nada.
So do you have to put the full taxi insurance back on the car just for the LRA?
Well, I got through on the first ring and have the suitability booked for 04/09/2020.

I plan on removing the screen simply because the dog likes to perch on the centre console on long journeys.
We're heading off for a "Galwaycation". 8)
That's a given SB....my email was scrutinised just getting the daisies on.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Shallowhal on August 24, 2020, 07:34:16 pm
My screen is lookin lovely in the corner of the sitting room.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 24, 2020, 09:29:35 pm
Got sick of looking at mine so I shoved it under the guest couch.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Shallowhal on August 24, 2020, 10:03:10 pm
Got sick of looking at mine so I shoved it under the guest couch.

I'd say that couch is rarely used!!
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 24, 2020, 10:04:28 pm
Not rarely enough!
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Shallowhal on August 24, 2020, 10:06:51 pm
Should make those that use it commit to your shed building programme.
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: john m on August 24, 2020, 10:13:45 pm
Not rarely enough!

Fuck off
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: john m on August 24, 2020, 10:14:25 pm
Should make those that use it commit to your shed building programme.

and you fuck off as well
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 24, 2020, 10:15:25 pm
The older not so young lad's leg brace comes off in a few weeks so maybe November. Got sidetracked with the kitchen anyway. Having completed painting the bottom half (including the walls behind the cabinets!) over a week ago I got round to the top half last Friday - done all the primer (2 coats) in one day, then today I done the top coats (2 thereof) on the door fronts/end panels/plinths/etc, again all in one day. Plan to do the backs of the doors and the spice rack and corner shelf unit tomorrow or the next day. Can't wait to get back to  work for a rest!
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 24, 2020, 10:18:36 pm
Not rarely enough!

Fuck off

At least you leave no room for anyone else!
Title: Re: Free now screen and the NCT/Suitability
Post by: Shallowhal on August 25, 2020, 03:01:17 pm
Not rarely enough!

Fuck off

At least you leave no room for anyone else!

No room for manoeuvre....should be ermys motto!!