Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: john m on December 08, 2020, 02:21:36 pm
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See UBER have surrendered on the self drive shite and sold out their self drive department at a loss of billions to concentrate on transport provision .probably use the money from the sale to buy out Free Now and jack up your comission to 33% .
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Good move.Theres plenty of other companies doing autonomous stuff. They can always partner up with another company in the future after they become more profitable.
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What do ya mean jack up the commission to 33% ? Drivers DO NOT HAVE to join them.nobody has to pay even the current 15 % there is no law says you have to join a dispatcher,although the way some on here think,you would swear tou had to join one
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Good move.Theres plenty of other companies doing autonomous stuff. They can always partner up with another company in the future after they become more profitable.
Penny dropped Musk Ford Mercedes will own the cars and you rent a ride .What was Ubers role going to be .They thought like Hailo the Data would open up an opportunity but now everybody is tracking everybody so data has lost its value everybody has access .
The UBER model will be transport from Taxi ,Rideshare ,Couriers ,Trucks they will put a product on wheels to be delivered and take their cut .Was always a great idea until Travis outran his brain power and tried to put lipstick on a pig and call it pretty .
You can be CERTAIN Free Now will sell out to UBER they havent got the coin to compete .
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What do ya mean jack up the commission to 33% ? Drivers DO NOT HAVE to join them.nobody has to pay even the current 15 % there is no law says you have to join a dispatcher,although the way some on here think,you would swear tou had to join one
Dollyer the Apps own the work stop fooling yourself on that score .WE GAVE IT TO THEM .they own it .There is a Law that says you have to join them its the oldest most basic law .Its the law of the Jungle you are with us or against us .
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John.do ya STILL not get what im saying ? the apps can own all the work in the world,but if drivers refusw to work with them,then what good is the work.?-its llike I a always said on here,we can operate without them,but they cannot operate without us
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You said FN dont have the coin to compete,how the fukk are traditional dispatchers surviving ?
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You said FN dont have the coin to compete,how the fukk are traditional dispatchers surviving ?
They are not like a lot of us they are holding on hoping things bounce back .Things have changed everywhere Dalyer I havent been in a bank for about twenty years .Franco in the Chipper will deliver unlike when I was a kid you qued on Friday .No need to go to the Savoy to see a film Netflix has that sorted .The Milk man and the Coalman are gone nobody delivers newspapers .Dickie Rocks Da dosent light the Gas lights in the Pheno any more .The future of the taxi business is in app and under Uber we will transport both People and parcels .UBER will make the case that it makes no sence to have idle vehicles standing by while there is alternative work available .They call it progress .
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I keep saying it ya,but ya just wont listen .we have the biggest weapon of all OUR FUKIN REFUSAL .if drivers refuse to p participate,then what can UBERor anyone else do ?
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I keep saying it ya,but ya just wont listen .we have the biggest weapon of all OUR FUKIN REFUSAL .if drivers refuse to p participate,then what can UBERor anyone else do ?
Dollyer /Dalyer/Paul .Would you open your eyes and mind .Most lads doing this job would strangle a litter of pups for a job .They do this JOB for money .They make money by carrying passengers ,The apps have passengers .Now do the Sums .Its hard for lads to sit on a rank for hours and watch a car pull up at the front of the rank to pick up an app passenger .Thats the reality .
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Ah I give up.the apps only have the work because people use then.no drivers to service the apps,no people using them.result,A LEVEL PLAYING PITCH for all drivers
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Ah I give up.the apps only have the work because people use then.no drivers to service the apps,no people using them.result,A LEVEL PLAYING PITCH for all drivers
Wont happen Dalyer for one simple reason (Not Racist comment ) There are to many non Nationals who depend on it and its mapping to work in the industry .Indian Lad I know is delivering for SGS their hand held tells him whats on board and the order to deliver and shows a Map .Those drivers wont be leaving the App neither will the customers .I never know why you object you are getting two bits for every pick up that mostly covers the comission .
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Ok I'll try and explain what im trying to say.it is probably the case that 90% of drivers are signed up to a dispatcher,wether its an app,a traditional dispatcher,or both.
Now the reason a deiver signs up to a dispatcher in the first place is,he wants to get work right ?
But in order to get that work,he has to be next in line right ?
So the only people he can possibly get the jump on is one of the remaining 10 % who are not signed up,and of that 10 % lets say 5 % of them are working at that particular time,so he is willing to pay 15 % commission on every job he gets to beat off the competition from 5% ,now in addition,he is also competing with the other drivers who ARE signed up,because if he is not nearest drivers he doesnt get the job.so why pay 15% commission to app operator,or 100euro plus to any dispatcher,when you have as much chance of being nearer the next customer,and the driver who pays no commission to anyone.create a level playing field with no dispatcher,or apps,and I guarantee you wont be able to keep up with the amount of available work.you have deluded yourselfs into thinking they are necessary
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Anyone got a wall we can talk to?
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Im sorry ,I havent really explained what im trying to say very well.I'll try again.
I can see why drivers signed up to apps,and dispatchers,when they were a new thing.
Of course drivers signed up,because there was only a couple of thousand ,and you were absolutely BOUND to get the work over independents.
But the point I am trying to make is,now that almost everyone is signed up,YOUR ONLY COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER.
Now for that privilege,you are paying 15% commission,where as if nobody signed up to an app,or dispatcher,the same level of competition would apply,and there would be NO commission to be paid to anyone.
Now before one of you go down the moral road of telling me about the poor fella who lives in the wilderness ,and cant get out to the road to hail,dont bother your billox.
Firstly thats a small tiny fraction of taxi users in that case,and secondly just be honest.your no different then me .you just dont give a fukk about him,but at least I say it out straight,and not try to do a mr Kearns on it pretending I care
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Dollyer do you want a Pie Chart .You cannot compete for the App work but app users can compete with you for walk in work .So app users compete for 100% of the work you are excluded from App only work .Now % the fuck out of that reality .
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No thats it,I give up.I only hope the realization will dawn on all of you some fukin day,that you are being rode
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No thats it,I give up.I only hope the realization will dawn on all of you some fukin day,that you are being rode
1. Every driver knows that.
2. Nothing can be done without unity.
3. Unity is impossible
4. Some form of despatch system is essential.
5. Never will I address this subject with you again.
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Anyone got a wall we can talk to?
rofl
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Anyone got a wall we can talk to?
rofl
Work away... ::fuck ::fuck
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No thats it,I give up.I only hope the realization will dawn on all of you some fukin day,that you are being rode
1. Every driver knows that.
2. Nothing can be done without unity.
3. Unity is impossible
4. Some form of despatch system is essential.
5. Never will I address this subject with you again.
we actually agreed with everything you said there,until you said dispatch is essential
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Why worry about Uber Ermy? you're never at work.
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Why worry about Uber Ermy? you're never at work.
Answer me this Young Bullett or anybody else that wants to answer it .Why would I return to work .The Virus that put me out of work is still floating around nothing has changed .So If I now decide to return to work ,wash me hands ,social distance ,wear a mask then I must ask myself was I a stupid cunt for bothering to stay at home since March or am I a stupid cunt for now returning to work .Everything today is exactly the same as it was in March .I think we learned something the price of a self employed workers health/life is 120 euro per week according to the Government and the lads and ladies that decided to return to work would seem to be in agreement .
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Why worry about Uber Ermy? you're never at work.
Answer me this Young Bullett or anybody else that wants to answer it .Why would I return to work .The Virus that put me out of work is still floating around nothing has changed .So If I now decide to return to work ,wash me hands ,social distance ,wear a mask then I must ask myself was I a stupid cunt for bothering to stay at home since March or am I a stupid cunt for now returning to work .Everything today is exactly the same as it was in March .I think we learned something the price of a self employed workers health/life is 120 euro per week according to the Government and the lads and ladies that decided to return to work would seem to be in agreement .
Thats exactly it, nothing has changed since last March, Mister Covid19 is still doing its thing.
I fear we are heading for a shitstorm come January, when all of those who "celebrated" Xmas with family and friends will be struck down with it.
People have become very lax about the virus and will/are being foolish.
My young lad and his friends, are of the opinion its nothing to worry about and they couldnt care less ,which worries me, greatly.
With regard to app debate, unfortunately its here to stay.I'm not with any app group as i usually work the Kesh (or at least I did until last March) but the app is convenient for passengers,especially amongst the 20 and 30 something.
The days of click and collect are here to stay, in every sense of the word.
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Justin the Shitstorm is coming .The Cough is only a taster .Mick from Cork and Covnery from Cork and the Invisible Veradkar are trying to polish a Thurd .The Brits and Brexit will fuck up our economy deal or no deal .Irish Government have been operating a Fucking Punch and Judy Show live on telly with Doc Hooligan ,Donnelly the Donkey and a Smiley Bird from Virgin Media every day timed to coincide with the Evening News so we wont notice the real shitstorm thats heading our way .Lads charging out to fill their boots most will not surrender their Covid Payments after they reach the 480 monthly limit .I wonder when Covid coin is replaced by Self Employed Unemployment Benifit or Assistance and when the Dole ask for your bank statement for the last 3 months how you will explain your income from Free Now if it exceeds the monthly allowance for earnings by self employed PUP recipients .
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I keep saying it ya,but ya just wont listen .we have the biggest weapon of all OUR FUKIN REFUSAL .if drivers refuse to p participate,then what can UBERor anyone else do ?
OK DM.... We should refuse to do the work and end up without a penny in our pockets.. Just like yourself... Shiting yourself every time you go for an nct just in case it fails and you need to get a loan of somebody to get your car fixed.....
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I actually GAVE BACK the money I borrowed for a new car in the summer.so your quite content to take it up the back passage from dispatchers,one of whom probably stopped you from working years ago because you wouldnt join his union
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IS SOMEBODY READING MY POSTS ..Anne-Marie Walsh
December 09 2020 05:49 PM
MUSICIANS will be able to earn up to €960 for a gig and get the Pandemic Unemployment Payment (PUP).
New rules are set to be rolled out to ease restrictions on the self-employed on the jobless benefit when they are offered work.
Speaking in the Dáil today, Social Protection Minister Heather Humphreys said she would accept an amendment to the social welfare bill giving them greater scope to accept more lucrative projects.
Since budget day, they have been able to earn €480 over four weeks and continue to maintain their entitlement to the payment.
This will change to double this – €960 – over an eight-week period.
“That’s important because when you’re a musician, you could have a gig one week and then maybe nothing for the next four weeks so I hope this change to €960 will help them in that respect,” she said.
She said the change followed “constructive engagement” with Jackie Conboy and the Music and Entertainment Association of Ireland.
“We all hope with the vaccine coming on stream that we will get back to some level of normality in 2021 and we want to see our musicians and artists back performing as much as possible,” she said.
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“In the meantime this will provide them with greater flexibility to take up occasional gigs while knowing that the safety net of the PUP is still there for them.”
She said the ability to earn up to €480 a month had been warmly welcomed by taxi drivers, musicians, electricians, and plumbers.
However, she would accept an amendment that had been tabled to change this to €960 over eight weeks.
“I am happy to accept that amendment as having spoken to musicians and members of the entertainment industry directly, they have explained that this would make life easier for them when it comes to one off gigs,” she said.
“Whether it is €480 over four weeks or €960 over eight weeks, the point here is that we don’t want people turning down work for fear that it might impact their pandemic unemployment payment.”
The measure will take effect when the bill is passed, and this is likely early next week.
SO NOW CAN YOU EARM IN DECEMBER AND OFF SET THOSE EARNINGS FOR LOCKDOWN JANUARY .
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We were on 300 a nite years ago when we played darkie kellys every thursday nite,I wonder if I went back balladeering could I still get paid.ah fukkit id be like the ratzer then ,a bleedin double jobber
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We were on 300 a nite years ago when we played darkie kellys every thursday nite,I wonder if I went back balladeering could I still get paid.ah fukkit id be like the ratzer then ,a bleedin double jobber
De Wolf Drones! 8)
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Give it a rest FFS
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And a partridge up your pear tree
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Your in the wrong business.
The only taxi man that doesn’t want the punters to call a taxi.
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Yeah right
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Can only imagine if you had visitor’s in your house over the crimbo.
“Can you order a taxi for us and we head for home”
“You have to go out on the road to get one as I don’t believe in dispatch companies or Apps”
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They would not have to do that id take them,as I do WVERY year,and have done so for years
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Can only imagine if you had visitor’s in your house over the crimbo.
“Can you order a taxi for us and we head for home”
“You have to go out on the road to get one as I don’t believe in dispatch companies or Apps”
rofl rofl rofl
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The thing about your beloved apps is,the drivers are unreliable.this weekend alone I had loads of people tell me they booked a taxi ,but the driver cancelled on the way,and you want people to depend on that kind of service ?
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Oh I can imagine the reply you gave them.
Dispatchers and Apps ears were burning
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Didnt have to,the customers demonised them all by themselves,and in most cases they said they would never use them again.
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Didnt have to,the customers demonised them all by themselves,and in most cases they said they would never use them again.
And you believed them that they would never call a taxi again.
You must be very lonely in your taxi with no one to talk to.
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Well who do you think told me about the unreliable apps then ? im not a bit lonely sunshine,I make what I need to make while you,on the other hand continue to be told what to do by your would be employer
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Any chance of an ol rant boss.
Go on and get it off your chest
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Im done with ya jack ass
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Ah go on.
We need to get back the work that the apps and dispatchers took from us.
Come on now, rant away
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Ok you can have the last word then,id hate to keep ya from your work,your bosses might be annoyed.lol
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Sitting on me arse waiting on my 80 buck job at 3 o clock.
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Fair play to ya
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Thanks to my hard working bosses who run and promote the company
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Ah sure your a great lad altogether
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We are in the service industry.
You want a taxi, pick up the phone and we will collect you.
And you get a PUC anall, something you don’t have.
Your a flat meter man.
A lonely rank man.
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Ah sure there ya go,aren't ya wonderful now altogether
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I think it's very charitable for them to be giving you the scraps off the apps. Tis the season n' all that!
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Now I couldnt agree more ,sure aren't they wonderful altogether their generosity knows no bounds
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Dec 6-13
Trad Despatcher freight 6.27% on X no of jobs
Free Now freight 15% on 2X no of jobs
Who's the villian?
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Dec 6-13
Trad Despatcher freight 6.27% on X no of jobs
Free Now freight 15% on 2X no of jobs
Who's the villian?
are ya telling me trad dispatchers charge commision AS WELL as a base fee ? Surely I have that wrong
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Freight = Base fee for as long as I have been taxiing. i.e. 6.27% = base fee in that week.
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So your total weekly amount to pay is 6_27% ? and you dont have to pay any commision in addition to that ? Just asking like,cause I dont know what way they charge
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It can vary, up or down, depending on how much work, but as the freight fee is fixed, i.e. the same every week, the busier it is, the lower is the percentage cost for the work done. It was good last week because it was busier for the Xmas period. Unfortunately that won't last as in normal times, particularly the "new normal", FN have the bulk of the work, even much more than double other sources.
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Yeah I hear what your saying,but the erm says FN are broke,so I cant understand how trad dispatchers are surviving,surely they have overheads also
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I am open to correction but in the 80/90s did Gerry Devlin (Metro) not charge freight plus 9%,likewise City and Dalkey (NXT) they still charge 8 % on the discounted HSE work !
But then again it was accepted that the fares were inflated to compensate with the former but the latter appeared to take all of the inflated fares I think !
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I am open to correction but in the 80/90s did Gerry Devlin (Metro) not charge freight plus 9%,likewise City and Dalkey (NXT) they still charge 8 % on the discounted HSE work !
But then again it was accepted that the fares were inflated to compensate with the former but the latter appeared to take all of the inflated fares I think !
I think it was the freight plus 10% or so on account work. The pickup charge nullified it. Sort of.
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Yeah I hear what your saying,but the erm says FN are broke,so I cant understand how trad dispatchers are surviving,surely they have overheads also
They wouldn't survive if they stuck to dispatching. As the bould Denis O'Brien once said "Stand still and you are history". Ebbs at least is diversifying. Into courier work now. Which is a growing sector. He also got rid of a lot of th3 rental fleet with the rent to buy deal. Still had enough work to keep a loyal core of drivers going and laid off most of the unneeded mechanics and telephone operators.
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I always reckoned of all the trad dispatchers,Ebbs was streets ahead of the others when it came to business. Im talking among other trad dispatchers of course
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I always reckoned of all the trad dispatchers,Ebbs was streets ahead of the others when it came to business. Im talking among other trad dispatchers of course
He has been around the block all right. Have to get up early.
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He didn't try to compete with free now.
Looks like he adopted the new technology (apps) and built it in to his existing system. Best of both worlds for passengers.
Covid might have caused some pain but the necessary cost cutting and reduction in staff helps move towards more technology and less people (in the office).
They use the autocab system in conjunction with the icabbi app. Uber bought out autocab this year. Uber is trying to buy out free now.
Ebbs could end up exiting the taxi game if the right offer is made especially as Lynk has diversified into parcel deliveries. Right up Ubers Street.
He must be at the age now where he is considering Florida and the golf courses.
Wonder how he feels about Uber having access to his data.
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He went from being a bookie exploiting mugs, to renting taxis to mugs.
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He went from being a bookie exploiting mugs, to renting taxis to mugs.
I thought he owned newsagents shops?
If he got out of the bookie game for the taxi game then he was the mug.
Lot more to be made back then as a bookie. Expanding and/or waiting for a big buyout.
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His Mother Kay was a manager with Harry Barry on Malahide rd and then went on to open shop on Aston quay that ended up Ladbrokes !