UBER and out

[john m]

See UBER have surrendered on the self drive shite and sold out their self drive department at a loss of billions to concentrate on transport provision .probably use the money from the sale to buy out Free Now and jack up your comission to 33% .

[mercenary for hire]

Good move.Theres plenty of other companies doing autonomous stuff. They can always partner up with another company in the future after they become more profitable.

[dalymount]

What do ya mean jack up the commission to 33% ? Drivers DO NOT HAVE to join them.nobody has to pay even the current 15  % there is no law says you have to join a dispatcher,although the way some on here think,you would swear tou had to join one

[john m]

Good move.Theres plenty of other companies doing autonomous stuff. They can always partner up with another company in the future after they become more profitable.

Penny dropped Musk Ford Mercedes will own the cars and you rent a ride .What was Ubers role going to be .They thought like Hailo the Data would open up an opportunity but now everybody is tracking everybody so data has lost its value everybody has access .

The UBER model will be transport from Taxi ,Rideshare ,Couriers ,Trucks they will put a product on wheels to be delivered and take their cut .Was always a great idea until Travis outran his brain power and tried to put lipstick on a pig and call it pretty .

You can be CERTAIN Free Now will sell out to UBER they havent got the coin to compete .

[john m]

What do ya mean jack up the commission to 33% ? Drivers DO NOT HAVE to join them.nobody has to pay even the current 15  % there is no law says you have to join a dispatcher,although the way some on here think,you would swear tou had to join one

Dollyer the Apps own the work stop fooling yourself on that score .WE GAVE IT TO THEM .they own it .There is a Law that says you have to join them its the oldest most basic law .Its the law of the Jungle you are with us or against us .

[dalymount]

John.do ya STILL not get what im saying ? the apps can own all the work in the world,but if drivers refusw to work with them,then what good is the work.?-its llike I a always said on here,we can operate without them,but they cannot operate without us

[dalymount]

You said FN dont have the coin to compete,how the fukk are traditional dispatchers surviving ?

[john m]

You said FN dont have the coin to compete,how the fukk are traditional dispatchers surviving ?

They are not like a lot of us they are holding on hoping things bounce back .Things have changed everywhere Dalyer I havent been in a bank for about twenty years .Franco in the Chipper will deliver unlike when I was a kid you qued on Friday .No need to go to the Savoy to see a film Netflix has that sorted .The Milk man and the Coalman are gone nobody delivers newspapers .Dickie Rocks Da dosent light the Gas lights in the Pheno any more .The future of the taxi business is in app and under Uber we will transport both People and parcels .UBER will make the case that it makes no sence to have idle vehicles standing by while there is alternative work available .They call it progress .

[dalymount]

I keep saying it ya,but ya just wont listen .we have the biggest weapon of all OUR FUKIN REFUSAL .if drivers refuse to p participate,then what can UBERor anyone else do ?

[john m]

I keep saying it ya,but ya just wont listen .we have the biggest weapon of all OUR FUKIN REFUSAL .if drivers refuse to p participate,then what can UBERor anyone else do ?

Dollyer /Dalyer/Paul .Would you open your eyes and mind .Most lads doing this job would strangle a litter of pups for a job .They do this JOB for money .They make money by carrying passengers ,The apps have passengers .Now do the Sums .Its hard for lads to sit on a rank for hours and watch a car pull up at the front of the rank to pick up an app passenger .Thats the reality .

[dalymount]

Ah I give up.the apps only have the work because people use then.no drivers to service the apps,no people using them.result,A LEVEL PLAYING PITCH for all drivers

[john m]

Ah I give up.the apps only have the work because people use then.no drivers to service the apps,no people using them.result,A LEVEL PLAYING PITCH for all drivers

Wont happen Dalyer for one simple reason (Not Racist comment ) There are to many non Nationals who depend on it and its mapping to work in the industry .Indian Lad I know is delivering for SGS their hand held tells him whats on board and the order to deliver and shows a Map .Those drivers wont be leaving the App neither will the customers .I never know why you object you are getting two bits for every pick up that mostly covers the comission .

[dalymount]

Ok I'll try and explain what im trying to say.it is probably the case that 90% of drivers are signed up to a dispatcher,wether its an app,a traditional dispatcher,or both.


Now the reason a deiver signs up to a dispatcher in the first place is,he wants to get work right ?

But in order to get that work,he has to be next in line right ?

So the only people he can possibly get the jump on is one of the remaining 10 % who are not signed up,and of that 10 % lets say 5 % of them are working at that particular time,so he is willing to pay 15 % commission on every job he gets to beat off the competition from 5% ,now in addition,he is also competing with the other drivers who ARE signed up,because if he is not nearest drivers he doesnt get the job.so why pay 15% commission to app operator,or 100euro plus to any dispatcher,when you have as much chance of being nearer the next customer,and the driver who pays no commission to anyone.create a level playing field with no dispatcher,or apps,and I guarantee you wont be able to keep up with the amount of available work.you have deluded yourselfs into thinking they are necessary

[Bob Shillin]

Anyone got a wall we can talk to?

[dalymount]

Im sorry ,I havent really explained what im trying to say very well.I'll try again.

I can see why drivers signed up to apps,and dispatchers,when they were a new thing.

Of course drivers signed up,because there was only a couple of thousand ,and you were absolutely BOUND to get the work over independents.

But the point I am trying to make is,now that almost everyone is signed up,YOUR ONLY COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER.


Now for that privilege,you are paying 15% commission,where as if nobody signed up to an app,or dispatcher,the same level of competition would apply,and there would be NO commission to be paid to anyone.

Now before one of you go down the moral road of telling me about the poor fella who lives in the wilderness ,and cant get out to the road to hail,dont bother your billox.

Firstly thats a small tiny fraction of taxi users in that case,and secondly just be honest.your no different then me .you just dont give a fukk about him,but at least I say it out straight,and not try to do a mr Kearns on it pretending I care