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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: John m on April 25, 2022, 12:47:00 pm
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The National Transport Authority has announced plans to require card payment facilities in all taxis along with a new maximum fare rate.
Under the Taxi Regulations Act 2012, the NTA will hold public consultation on the requirement for drivers to accept cashless payments for any journey.
A new maximum fare order, which will detail the maximum fare that may be charged by a taxi driver, will also be under public consultation.
The proposal is among those contained in the National Maximum Taxi Fare Review Report 2022 published today.
Under the proposals, taxis will be brought into line with other services, with cashless payment now the norm in shops, supermarkets and restaurants across the country.
A recommendation to introduce such a provision was first made in an NTA fare review in 2019, but the planned implementation in early 2020 was deferred because of the Covid-19 pandemic.
The 2019 report also examined the cost of running a taxi service compared to 2017, when the previous fare review was undertaken and recommended in line with that, an increase in the National Maximum Taxi Fare of 4.5pc. That fare increase was also postponed in 2020.
The report published today found that overall, the costs associated with operating a taxi increased between 2017 and 2022 by approximately 11pc. An increase in maximum taxi fare levels, to reflect this, is recommended in the report.
The 2019 Fare Review recommended a further adjustment of 1pc for the extra costs associated with the introduction of cashless payment facilities, such as transaction fees and hardware provision. This is also factored into today’s recommended increase in maximum fares of 12pc.
These proposals are now open for public consultation until Friday, May 27 at 12pm, with the matter to be brought to the NTA board for consideration shortly thereafter.
The Taxi Fare Review is generally carried out by the NTA every two years or so to assess operating costs and fares in the SPSV sector.
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IF ONLY >>>>The report published today found that overall, the costs associated with operating a taxi increased between 2017 and 2022 by approximately 11pc. An increase in maximum taxi fare levels, to reflect this, is recommended in the report.
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I suggest as taxi drivers you support this proposal as I have posted here on numerous occasions I believe a lot of people use the app as they do not carry cash .If we all take card I believe we will win back a lot of customers .I will be writing to the Public consultation supporting this move .
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I would presume most taxi drivers take credit card personally don’t know of any the do not.
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I would presume most taxi drivers take credit card personally don’t know of any the do not.
Here is the thing Tarmac a lot of PASSENGERS DO NOT KNOW SO THEY USE THE APP AS THEY DO NOT HAVE CASH .I have asked a lot of passengers and they say it was hard or impossible to app a cab I ask why you didnt just stick out your hand and they say they did not have any CASH .If the Transport for Ireland crowd run adverts letting passengers know that ALL taxis must accept card then I believe we will take back a lot of customers late night from the apps .As I said I will be writing to the review in favour of this .Remember it only says you must accept Credit cards not that you cannot accept cash .
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I would presume most taxi drivers take credit card personally don’t know of any the do not.
Here is the thing Tarmac a lot of PASSENGERS DO NOT KNOW SO THEY USE THE APP AS THEY DO NOT HAVE CASH .I have asked a lot of passengers and they say it was hard or impossible to app a cab I ask why you didnt just stick out your hand and they say they did not have any CASH .If the Transport for Ireland crowd run adverts letting passengers know that ALL taxis must accept card then I believe we will take back a lot of customers late night from the apps .As I said I will be writing to the review in favour of this .Remember it only says you must accept Credit cards not that you cannot accept cash .
A lot of drivers tell punters they don't have a card device so they'll pay in cash, and cash as every tradesman knows is tax-free!! 8)
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I would presume most taxi drivers take credit card personally don’t know of any the do not.
Here is the thing Tarmac a lot of PASSENGERS DO NOT KNOW SO THEY USE THE APP AS THEY DO NOT HAVE CASH .I have asked a lot of passengers and they say it was hard or impossible to app a cab I ask why you didnt just stick out your hand and they say they did not have any CASH .If the Transport for Ireland crowd run adverts letting passengers know that ALL taxis must accept card then I believe we will take back a lot of customers late night from the apps .As I said I will be writing to the review in favour of this .Remember it only says you must accept Credit cards not that you cannot accept cash .
A lot of drivers tell punters they don't have a card device so they'll pay in cash, and cash as every tradesman knows is tax-free!! 8)
Really .
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I would presume most taxi drivers take credit card personally don’t know of any the do not.
Here is the thing Tarmac a lot of PASSENGERS DO NOT KNOW SO THEY USE THE APP AS THEY DO NOT HAVE CASH .I have asked a lot of passengers and they say it was hard or impossible to app a cab I ask why you didnt just stick out your hand and they say they did not have any CASH .If the Transport for Ireland crowd run adverts letting passengers know that ALL taxis must accept card then I believe we will take back a lot of customers late night from the apps .As I said I will be writing to the review in favour of this .Remember it only says you must accept Credit cards not that you cannot accept cash .
A lot of drivers tell punters they don't have a card device so they'll pay in cash, and cash as every tradesman knows is tax-free!! 8)
Really .
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The National Transport Authority has commenced a public consultation on the National Maximum Taxi Fare Review Report 2022 and Proposed Maximum Fares Order.
Paying by card for your cab may soon be standard as the National Transport Authority (NTA) announces plans to require card payment facilities in all taxis. This proposal is among those contained in the National Maximum Taxi Fare Review Report 2022 published today.
The report examines the cost of running a taxi service today compared to 2017 when the last fare review was undertaken. NTA estimates that the cost of operating a taxi has increased between 10.7% and 11.5% since 2017.
Our proposal for an increase in maximum fares of 12% covers both this increase, and the cost associated with the provision of card payment.
Further information can be found here.
The public consultations are open until 12:00pm Friday 27th May 2022 and the matters will then be considered by the NTA.
Yours sincerely,
National Transport Authority
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I would presume most taxi drivers take credit card personally don’t know of any the do not.
Here is the thing Tarmac a lot of PASSENGERS DO NOT KNOW SO THEY USE THE APP AS THEY DO NOT HAVE CASH .I have asked a lot of passengers and they say it was hard or impossible to app a cab I ask why you didnt just stick out your hand and they say they did not have any CASH .If the Transport for Ireland crowd run adverts letting passengers know that ALL taxis must accept card then I believe we will take back a lot of customers late night from the apps .As I said I will be writing to the review in favour of this .Remember it only says you must accept Credit cards not that you cannot accept cash .
I agree with you for a change .
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Just continuing to add to the inflation spiral.
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we don't need fuckin card machines.
alls ye need is this fuckin revolute thing on your phone.
instant dosh to your account.
another thing is there's a lorra bertie's out there with no bank account which ye need for transactions.
i had'nt a bank account myself until 3 year ago when i joined hailo.
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Card machine I have pays instant?
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what is she?
i've the 3g sumup stand alone yoke.
takes a few days to get marvin gayed.
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Ecomm 365..based in navan
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the cut of that yoke.
it's straight outta the 80s. javtahava satellite dish on your roof as well.
javenny problems with it connecting to take payments?
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Ecomm 365..based in navan
Costs?
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Has its own simcard unlike some up and the connecting to ur phone shit
Don't need a satalight...
Eh wat else....hmmmm its handy to bounce off sum1s head if they annoy ya lol
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Can't remember..have it 4 years lol
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Has its own simcard unlike some up and the connecting to ur phone shit
Don't need a satalight...
Eh wat else....hmmmm its handy to bounce off sum1s head if they annoy ya lol
SumUp have a stand alone 3g unit but the Air Reader I have is grand since I took RC's advice about letting the app wake the unit up.
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i had terrible trouble with the air because it connected via bluetooth.
i do be bluetoothing my phone to the radio all the time so i can listen to dickie rock and my phone never knew what was tryna connect to it.
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The National Transport Authority has announced plans to require card payment facilities in all taxis along with a new maximum fare rate.
Under the Taxi Regulations Act 2012, the NTA will hold public consultation on the requirement for drivers to accept cashless payments for any journey.
A new maximum fare order, which will detail the maximum fare that may be charged by a taxi driver, will also be under public consultation.
The proposal is among those contained in the National Maximum Taxi Fare Review Report 2022 published today.
Under the proposals, taxis will be brought into line with other services, with cashless payment now the norm in shops, supermarkets and restaurants across the country.
A recommendation to introduce such a provision was first made in an NTA fare review in 2019, but the planned implementation in early 2020 was deferred because of the Covid-19 pandemic.
The 2019 report also examined the cost of running a taxi service compared to 2017, when the previous fare review was undertaken and recommended in line with that, an increase in the National Maximum Taxi Fare of 4.5pc. That fare increase was also postponed in 2020.
The report published today found that overall, the costs associated with operating a taxi increased between 2017 and 2022 by approximately 11pc. An increase in maximum taxi fare levels, to reflect this, is recommended in the report.
The 2019 Fare Review recommended a further adjustment of 1pc for the extra costs associated with the introduction of cashless payment facilities, such as transaction fees and hardware provision. This is also factored into today’s recommended increase in maximum fares of 12pc.
These proposals are now open for public consultation until Friday, May 27 at 12pm, with the matter to be brought to the NTA board for consideration shortly thereafter.
The Taxi Fare Review is generally carried out by the NTA every two years or so to assess operating costs and fares in the SPSV sector.
12% in total, 4.5% from four years ago.
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Love to know where these overpaid civil servants get all their info fuel must of gone up by around 30% which is one of our biggest expenses.
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If you search around on the Tinternet you can still get a Sum Up terminal for 19 euro .I ordered a spare one today .https://sumup.ie/welcome/home/?gclid=CjwKCAjwjZmTBhB4EiwAynRmD9eBwzKQVDJ7jZg_K76UtpNhwJFDVQuvX93Ynv8H2iqBgYi6e1b7kxoC5acQAvD_BwE
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The 12% increase seems very fair considering all.
And at least there is no mention of the credit card machine having to have printed receipts.
You can get a sum-up card reader fer 29 Euro (or maybe 19 ?), but a terminal with a printer costs 149 Euro.
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The 12% increase seems very fair considering all.
And at least there is no mention of the credit card machine having to have printed receipts.
You can get a sum-up card reader fer 29 Euro (or maybe 19 ?), but a terminal with a printer costs 149 Euro.
It seems to be that ye all have no problem bragging about how much yis make but when it comes to having to invest a little back there's uproar
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There is still a lot of drivers in Cork refusing card work by night especially at busy times because they want no trail of their work, and quite often the customer has to use the app to get a taxi.
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There is still a lot of drivers in Cork refusing card work by night especially at busy times because they want no trail of their work, and quite often the customer has to use the app to get a taxi.
That's the reason it should be mandatory
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There is still a lot of drivers in Cork refusing card work by night especially at busy times because they want no trail of their work, and quite often the customer has to use the app to get a taxi.
That's the reason it should be mandatory
It will be mandatory, just like refusing a fare (by night) cos the driver doesen't fancy a long/short trip, while asking out the window where the passenger is going ?
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For all the branded ambassadors .What do you do if a passenger walks up to you or flags you down and says can I pay with Free Now do you say yes and give Free Now a % of YOUR job ? If you had to have a Credit card facility you could remove the branding .The future is simple .The Apps will suspend drivers who refuse jobs and I will bet they increase the freight as well if we get an increase their % or our increase wont be enough for them Comission will be 20% very soon especially if as I predicted we win back a lot of work from them by having Credit Facilities .BUT DONT FORGET TO REPLY TO THE NTA SAYING YOU AGREE TO BOTH THE FARE INCREASE AND THE CREDIT CARD FACILITY .You can be sure the Apps will be saying they already supply credit card facilities that are secure .Remember you can still take cash its just you must also take card .
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For all the branded ambassadors .What do you do if a passenger walks up to you or flags you down and says can I pay with Free Now do you say yes and give Free Now a % of YOUR job ? If you had to have a Credit card facility you could remove the branding .The future is simple .The Apps will suspend drivers who refuse jobs and I will bet they increase the freight as well if we get an increase their % or our increase wont be enough for them Comission will be 20% very soon especially if as I predicted we win back a lot of work from them by having Credit Facilities .BUT DONT FORGET TO REPLY TO THE NTA SAYING YOU AGREE TO BOTH THE FARE INCREASE AND THE CREDIT CARD FACILITY .You can be sure the Apps will be saying they already supply credit card facilities that are secure .Remember you can still take cash its just you must also take card .
'Pay by Freenow' street jobs are very few and far between, I think I had about 2 ever before the Zero commission went to today's 15% (because the drivers were using it amongst themselves to get priority status fer free). Ever since I never had a single request, and if I had then I prob would have refused it telling them they could pay by card.
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I hope yer all considering signing up to Bolt and Uber.Last time we got a fare increase Freenow used it as an opportunity to increase commission.
The really annoying thing is they would have already gotten an increase as the fares went up but they still wanted more.Greedy fuks.
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I hope yer all considering signing up to Bolt and Uber.Last time we got a fare increase Freenow used it as an opportunity to increase commission.
The really annoying thing is they would have already gotten an increase as the fares went up but they still wanted more.Greedy fuks.
@ merch I think My Taxi resisted the last fare increase .It would of suited them to delay independent card payments as their main selling point was you can pay by card .I hope we ALL drop the App until they introduce a flat fee of no more that the PUC for jobs .
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Hopefully some good will come of mandatory card thing.
For years taxi drivers in New York and London where cards have been mandatory have been pretending their machines weren't working properly..Not that many people will bother complaining to the NTA so it will be hard to enforce.
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Try ask a foukin Chinese take away round my kip to take a credit card .....they start speaking Chinese at ya the cnuts
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Hopefully some good will come of mandatory card thing.
For years taxi drivers in New York and London where cards have been mandatory have been pretending their machines weren't working properly..Not that many people will bother complaining to the NTA so it will be hard to enforce.
I got a job last night off Vicar Street I was third car .First two would not take card .Job to Red Cow luas to catch the JJ Kavanagh bus to Kilkenny .Imagine if no taxi took a card that girl could of missed her bus and been stranded in Dublin .
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There's also a lot of customers pretending they don't have cash.
Last week I got a chap off the Google rank out to the airport.He pulled out the fancy credit card on T1 without warning insisting he had no Euros at all, but my Sumup wouldn't sync for the first time ever.We both sat in the car for about 10 minutes while I updated my app and tried to fix it.Eventually, the lying bollox pulled some crisp euro notes out of nowhere and said he was gonna miss his flight.Bastard had it all along.Probably an expenses thing.
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There's also a lot of customers pretending they don't have cash.
Last week I got a chap off the Google rank out to the airport.He pulled out the fancy credit card on T1 without warning insisting he had no Euros at all, but my Sumup wouldn't sync for the first time ever.We both sat in the car for about 10 minutes while I updated my app and tried to fix it.Eventually, the lying bollox pulled some crisp euro notes out of nowhere and said he was gonna miss his flight.Bastard had it all along.Probably an expenses thing.
I dont know if there is some sort of wi fi blocker in the airport but the only sum up fail I ever had was in the port .I usually connect the sum up device to my phone after the roundabout and enter the fare and get paid before I stop .The passenger then dosent waste time paying its done before we stop and he can get on with his busy life or holiday .
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There's also a lot of customers pretending they don't have cash.
Last week I got a chap off the Google rank out to the airport.He pulled out the fancy credit card on T1 without warning insisting he had no Euros at all, but my Sumup wouldn't sync for the first time ever.We both sat in the car for about 10 minutes while I updated my app and tried to fix it.Eventually, the lying bollox pulled some crisp euro notes out of nowhere and said he was gonna miss his flight.Bastard had it all along.Probably an expenses thing.
Good move.
I dont know if there is some sort of wi fi blocker in the airport but the only sum up fail I ever had was in the port .I usually connect the sum up device to my phone after the roundabout and enter the fare and get paid before I stop .The passenger then dosent waste time paying its done before we stop and he can get on with his busy life or holiday .
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Still cant get over,driving around in a Taxi, with a big sign saying
FREE
NOW
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Still cant get over,driving around in a Taxi, with a big sign saying FREE
NOW
Try driving around with a sign saying BOLT, you're asking for trouble! 8)
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Still cant get over,driving around in a Taxi, with a big sign saying FREE
NOW
That free word moving across like that is very very relaxing
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Still cant get over,driving around in a Taxi, with a big sign saying FREE
NOW
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Still cant get over,driving around in a Taxi, with a big sign saying FREE
NOW
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Still cant get over,driving around in a Taxi, with a big sign saying FREE
NOW
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Zzzzzzz...... ::sleep
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Still cant get over,driving around in a Taxi, with a big sign saying FREE
NOW
Try driving around with a sign saying BOLT, you're asking for trouble! 8)
Challenge accepted and done
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Still cant get over,driving around in a Taxi, with a big sign saying FREE
NOW
Try driving around with a sign saying BOLT, you're asking for trouble! 8)
Challenge accepted and done
Brilliant ::clap
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I hope the ruels arent changed because you will have instances where you drop some deadbeat home, fare is whatever 30 euro, then the deadbeat has no money on their card, at least now you can ask to see that they have money if you want. Also some will know they have no money on their card and go to pay, "oh there should be money on the card bla bla bla" hoping they wont have to pay and will never see you again.