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Title: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: taxi1990 on July 27, 2022, 02:31:50 pm
Are we exempt from paying this toll? or is it just owners of Vehicles modified for disabled use?

The following vehicles are exempt from paying the M50 toll charge:

Vehicles modified for disabled use
Motorcycles
Fingal County Council vehicles
Army vehicles
Vehicles performing maintenance on the M50
Garda and ambulance service vehicles
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Tony on July 27, 2022, 04:21:52 pm
No is the simple answer
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 27, 2022, 05:29:46 pm
It says " vehicles modified for disabled use "   ???

Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: watty on July 27, 2022, 06:28:11 pm
I think the taxi driver 'uses' it while the disabled passenger just sits in the back?  Unless the driver is feeling very lucky and swops places with the passenger  :P
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 27, 2022, 07:16:33 pm
I think the taxi driver 'uses' it while the disabled passenger just sits in the back?  Unless the driver is feeling very lucky and swops places with the passenger  :P

Yea  watty ...but the cripple  is bean blatantly discriminated against cause  ultimately he/she has to pay the toll for the taxi ....wer as another wheelchair user gets free cause they've ther own car ...that's economic discrimination on top of everytin else
An yu know wat happens wen   the disabled get  pissed off by sum cnut ....it'll be court cases , Joe Duffy an primetime
 oops

Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on July 27, 2022, 07:28:26 pm
Im sure that Crypmobiles are preregistered on the System and are certified to be modified for private use ,A taxi is a Commercial Vehicle for the purpose of the Toll .If taxis were toll free Bernard Scullion from the Flats ,Not Dommos Flats crosses over the East Link every day .It would be worth is while buying a Part worn Jock Crypmobile plating it up claim the tax writeoffs and free toll and sure he might even do a bit .
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 27, 2022, 08:02:11 pm
Im sure that Crypmobiles are preregistered on the System and are certified to be modified for private use ,A taxi is a Commercial Vehicle for the purpose of the Toll .If taxis were toll free Bernard Scullion from the Flats ,Not Dommos Flats crosses over the East Link every day .It would be worth is while buying a Part worn Jock Crypmobile plating it up claim the tax writeoffs and free toll and sure he might even do a bit .
The easiest  solution is to giv all cripples a free tag that is implanted an sealed in ther wheelchair.....bit like chippin yur cat ...it can't be tampered wit unless ya kill the poor cnut
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: silverbullet on July 27, 2022, 08:08:43 pm
EVs are half-price.
PHEVs get a 25% discount.
https://www.moneyguideireland.com/reduced-m50-tolls-electric-cars.html (https://www.moneyguideireland.com/reduced-m50-tolls-electric-cars.html)
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: watty on July 27, 2022, 08:16:59 pm
EVs are half-price.
PHEVs get a 25% discount.
https://www.moneyguideireland.com/reduced-m50-tolls-electric-cars.html (https://www.moneyguideireland.com/reduced-m50-tolls-electric-cars.html)

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This EV Toll Incentive or EVTI is due to run until December 2022.

Think it was limited numbers as well so if you weren't in at the beginning, you're out of luck!
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: taxi1990 on July 27, 2022, 08:46:05 pm
I will just pay the fine so, when it comes.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on July 28, 2022, 07:45:16 pm
I will just pay the fine so, when it comes.

What Fine go in and pay the toll see if its still live on the system .
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on July 28, 2022, 08:52:46 pm
Are we exempt from paying this toll? or is it just owners of Vehicles modified for disabled use?

The following vehicles are exempt from paying the M50 toll charge:

Vehicles modified for disabled use
Motorcycles
Fingal County Council vehicles
Army vehicles
Vehicles performing maintenance on the M50
Garda and ambulance service vehicles

It is definately a bit vague, if you are indeed driving a WAT then best to call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified.
https://dtes.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Guidelines-for-Disabled-drivers-in-barrier-toll-plaze.pdf
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on July 28, 2022, 08:55:13 pm
No is the simple answer
I would have said Yes.

We see what Italia'90 has to report back if he rings them.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: taxi1990 on July 28, 2022, 11:40:26 pm
Are we exempt from paying this toll? or is it just owners of Vehicles modified for disabled use?

The following vehicles are exempt from paying the M50 toll charge:

Vehicles modified for disabled use
Motorcycles
Fingal County Council vehicles
Army vehicles
Vehicles performing maintenance on the M50
Garda and ambulance service vehicles

It is definately a bit vague, if you are indeed driving a WAT then best to call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified.
https://dtes.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Guidelines-for-Disabled-drivers-in-barrier-toll-plaze.pdf


Ok, thanks, will give them a call.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Shallow Hal on July 29, 2022, 06:28:44 am
Unless the WAT owner has a disability it would be treated as a PSV and therefore when carrying passenger/s would be able to charge as part of the fare and issue a receipt with the toll charge manually included,if the passenger has a way of claiming that then great.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on July 29, 2022, 12:02:03 pm
Unless the WAT owner has a disability it would be treated as a PSV and therefore when carrying passenger/s would be able to charge as part of the fare and issue a receipt with the toll charge manually included,if the passenger has a way of claiming that then great.

The owner would have to have the WAT modified for driving or access to the drivers position modified , in which case driver may fail the wheelchair handling course. However, if driver passed and used the M50 with a passenger on board, would the toll be added to the fare legally or illegally ?

Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on July 29, 2022, 12:05:20 pm
No is the simple answer
Correct
IMMSMC, the vehicle must be accredited to the blue badge holder . The IWA , Clane office will clarify for anyone wishing to find out.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on July 31, 2022, 02:03:12 am
It says " vehicles modified for disabled use "   ???

The term covers modifications to the controls of the car, electronic clutch adaption or hand controls for brake and accelerator pedals. It also covers seat mods to both front seats.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2022, 07:58:00 am
  M,lawd ....As a free toll is bean given to cripple who drives a cripplemobile ......then a cripple who is bean driven ( in a wheelchair modified taxi )  is bean discrimination against ....I request that this matter is referred to the European Court of human rites an the toll shall be applicable to all cripples regardless of race , colour or creed or mode of transportation  an that the toll cnuts be fined for gross discrimination.....

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2022, 08:06:06 am
The world is too mad now ......everyone that wants antin has learned to be a victim ....I was listenin to the radio the other day .....an they wer talkin bout bringing in new laws that if yu
Dump yur bird by text or stop talkin to her abruptly ......it will be a criminal offence .......yur supposed to sit down wit her an explain yurself an be wit her until she's OK bout the hole ting an ready to hav it off wit some other bloke .....
It's gone fukin mental ......
So genuine cripples will have ther way no matter wat
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on July 31, 2022, 08:06:12 am
A Wheelchair Accessable Vehicle is just that Accessable .You can Access a hotel through a  ramp but you must still pay for your room and board .An accessable taxi is modified for the use of but not limited to that use only .So it does not meet the Criteria of Modified Vehicle as it is a Cripmobile Camelianmobile .It is and it is not a modified vehicle .
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2022, 08:11:39 am
A Wheelchair Accessable Vehicle is just that Accessable .You can Access a hotel through a  ramp but you must still pay for your room and board .An accessable taxi is modified for the use of but not limited to that use only .So it does not meet the Criteria of Modified Vehicle as it is a Cripmobile Camelianmobile .It is and it is not a modified vehicle .

"Objection yur honour"  >:(   " sustained" ....its a wheelchair modified vehicle tingy " m,lawd
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on July 31, 2022, 08:32:46 am
The world is too mad now ......everyone that wants antin has learned to be a victim ....I was listenin to the radio the other day .....an they wer talkin bout bringing in new laws that if yu
Dump yur bird by text or stop talkin to her abruptly ......it will be a criminal offence .......yur supposed to sit down wit her an explain yurself an be wit her until she's OK bout the hole ting an ready to hav it off wit some other bloke .....
It's gone fukin mental ......
So genuine cripples will have ther way no matter wat

Its not just victim hood its equality .Have you noticed now every sports broadcast has a Female Commentator from Horse Racing to Soccer ,GAA  Tour De France (How do birds take a piss during a bike race )and every quiz show or TV panel show has a Gay member .Rainbow flags outside Primary Schools and they are going to teach Porn in Secondry .When you look at the woke shite that is going on and how Victimhood gets you what you want you start to look at The Hill Billies and Rednecks in Trumpvill and realize they might just have had enough .They have WOKEN UP to the Woke .

Occi if your going to Mass this Morning .Ill be going with Big Dommo ,Billy the Bastard ,The One We Dont Mention he is a Hebrew so dosent come with us and Tommy Two Scars is on holiday in Coretown .Listen out for the Priest see if he mentions Garabandal .Im eating a cheese and Onion Sambo yesterday watching the Football results on Sky and I turn over to the BBC .Now this is why I brought this up .The Pope is sitting in a Wheelchair Probably so he dosent need to walk or queue for the Plane at the Airport he can pushed through departures .Anyway you know the way you are a worrier .I was worrying you might be worried about this .The Provisional Pope the bloke in the Wheelchair who was  brought on as Sub for the Nazi Alzimers riddled real pope (If the Pope is infallible ) Then why bring on a sub he has Gods OK to be a Nazi Nutjob .So we have two Popes at the Moment .Some youngone a load of years ago bumped into an Angel who told her the World would end in the Year we had three Popes .Most Christian Weirdos thought that meant one of them would die  and in the same year and we would elect a second  one and he would croak it then we would elect a third one .Well what if the End of Days is when the Nazi Pope his Argentinian Sub who now says his health is fading and he might take early retirement is joined by another geezer calling himself Pope .So Three  Popes in one Year .Could the Hand of God be the Finger of Putin ,Biden or Xi are they the Three Popes who bring about the End of Days .Mustnt forget to bring a bit of Shrapnell to put in the Plate and the money for the Sunday Paper from Boxer at the Chapel Gate .......Lets Sing .....All togeather now ....All things bright and beautifull all creatures great and small ,all things bright and beautifull Putin will kill them All .

OCCI you being a lerned man I refer you to Prophetia Sancti Malachiae Archiepiscopi, de Summis Pontificibus,
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2022, 09:46:26 am
Yur rite johnny ....im a worrier ....but All that stuff bout the end the world wen we have a black Pope was all a load o bollix to giv the church more power over the peasantry an frighten the shite out of them to go to mass an drop few bob in the baskets an makes the Pope out to be all powerful an influential an on top o that it was racist ...
The blacks won't be a Pope now as the  con is exposed now  an thers no money in it anymore ....
Anyway if ther is a Pope in 2050 as testimony to the Stupidity an denial of the human ape it'll be an Internet  robot
  an yull pay him in jasmy to absolve yur sins  O:-) ....computers are infallible....
Mind yu I had a lady ape talkin in me car tudder day an she was talkin to her phone ....an I  taut she was talkin to me an she explained she was " speak texting " ....I said ." Wats that ? ....she said she's half blind an texts by speakin but she said ya have to be careful as last week she was textin her solicitor an she said " hi fedelma " ....an the message sent read " hi vagina "  oops
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on July 31, 2022, 09:54:03 am
Yur rite johnny ....im a worrier ....but All that stuff bout the end the world wen we have a black Pope was all a load o bollix to giv the church more power over the peasantry an frighten the shite out of them to go to mass an drop few bob in the baskets an makes the Pope out to be all powerful an influential an on top o that it was racist ...
The blacks won't be a Pope now as the  con is exposed now  an thers no money in it anymore ....
Anyway if ther is a Pope in 2050 as testimony to the Stupidity an denial of the human ape it'll be an Internet  robot
  an yull pay him in jasmy to absolve yur sins  O:-) ....computers are infallible....
Mind yu I had a lady ape talkin in me car tudder day an she was talkin to her phone ....an I  taut she was talkin to me an she explained she was " speak texting " ....I said ." Wats that ? ....she said she's half blind an texts by speakin but she said ya have to be careful as last week she was textin her solicitor an she said " hi fedelma " ....an the message sent read " hi vagina "  oops

That was a cunt of a thing to happen !
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2022, 10:10:40 am
Yur rite johnny ....im a worrier ....but All that stuff bout the end the world wen we have a black Pope was all a load o bollix to giv the church more power over the peasantry an frighten the shite out of them to go to mass an drop few bob in the baskets an makes the Pope out to be all powerful an influential an on top o that it was racist ...
The blacks won't be a Pope now as the  con is exposed now  an thers no money in it anymore ....
Anyway if ther is a Pope in 2050 as testimony to the Stupidity an denial of the human ape it'll be an Internet  robot
  an yull pay him in jasmy to absolve yur sins  O:-) ....computers are infallible....
Mind yu I had a lady ape talkin in me car tudder day an she was talkin to her phone ....an I  taut she was talkin to me an she explained she was " speak texting " ....I said ." Wats that ? ....she said she's half blind an texts by speakin but she said ya have to be careful as last week she was textin her solicitor an she said " hi fedelma " ....an the message sent read " hi vagina "  oops

That was a cunt of a thing to happen !

Here's the headlines on sky news Johnny.........Ukrainians gettin murdered in ther thousands , ww3 , inflation tru the roof , millions starvin from climate change drought , an this is the news on the telly

https://news.sky.com/story/british-model-so-angry-after-spanish-governments-body-positivity-campaign-edited-out-her-prosthetic-leg-12662639
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2022, 10:22:38 am
Ide give the one in pink a lash  .....luvly big arse
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on July 31, 2022, 10:23:30 am
OCCi have you noticed all the Christian Values have been obliterated .Gay Marriage ,Divorce ,Euthanasia ,Abortion .Most Christians .Jews ,Protestants ,Catholics are White and Wealthy by comparison to other Religions .The Whole Tied your earnings and give a % to God is gone .Your Mammy use to get the Church Envelope collected and the Parish Priest use to come around at Easter for the Easter Dues .The Church was about Money and Power now the Church has been relegated to Social Club and Money is Power .Now to control the Power/money  .This thread started over a Three Euro Toll but its about a bit more it shows how the Power to Control the Power must first Divide to Conquer .We have seen the Power of Three Euro Toll Imagine what people would do if it was Three Billion .No need to Imagine Mr Putin wants Billions of Rubles of Gas off the Dombas Coast America wants it and the ukrainians will be cannon fodder .Why do America and Russia want the Gas ?because the world needs it .Everything we do or make on earth requires Energy .Religion use to be the old God. look at Cathedrals built in the Middle ages when the World was being destroyed by Plague and Black Death .Money is the New God but in reality it cannot be controled because it dosent exist it can be printed in a Factory in Clonskey .Energy is the Real God Energy =Power .Yet we obsess and argue over the Merits of a Three Euro waiver for a WAV .I posted this earlier this Year .We are now entering into the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius .The age of a massive Power Shift a changing of Energies .One for your head Occi to keep you awake at night .Everything we  learned in school or actually know is based in the past .In one hours time you call that the future but you dont know if it exists until one hours time then it is the Now .In reality the future does not exist yet we have been duped to do what we are told so we can enjoy the Future .How many Jasmy will you give me for that Data ?
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on July 31, 2022, 11:45:50 am
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Tony on July 31, 2022, 01:35:26 pm
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.



Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on July 31, 2022, 03:26:10 pm
Laffin
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2022, 04:21:46 pm
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2022, 04:23:12 pm
Talkin to the wall alrite  ::)
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Tony on July 31, 2022, 05:11:55 pm
 
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)

So do you reckon an able-bodied person can shout discrimination because he can't get all the benefits a cripple person gets?
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2022, 06:09:34 pm
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)

So do you reckon an able-bodied person can shout discrimination because he can't get all the benefits a cripple person gets?
Point out to me wer I said that Tony?
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2022, 06:25:10 pm
Quote :
The following vehicles are exempt from paying the M50 toll charge:

Vehicles modified for disabled use
Motorcycles
Fingal County Council vehicles
Army vehicles
Vehicles performing maintenance on the M50
Garda and ambulance service vehicles

The original question is a valid question because the fingal cc statement clearly states " vehicles modified for disabled use "

A wat Is  a vehicle modified for disabled use ....
At very least  the statement does not exclude a wat .

Also as I pointed out ...to charge the toll to a wat wit a  Wheelchair user on board is discrimination as the toll free is intended For the Wheelchair user
If the wat does not have a wheelchair user on board then
The taxi driver should maybe pay but that point could still be argued .....I would suggest that fingal cc wer  scratching ther heads  at this conundrum and because they found no practical way of differentiatin between a wc user on board a wat an a driver only wat that they just put in this blanket description as an easy option but I also said ther will be absolute trouble down the road if wc users are charged the toll if they  are in a wat an they will be in me opinion justified an if its braut to a higher authority they will win absolutely......I can only assume that  final cc
Have procrastinated refinement or implementation of a working solution because either they can't be arsed or more likely to assess the reaction an then do a cost based analysis to rectify the problem at a later date ....
Kicking the can down the road I tink they call it  oops
Or sweeping the dirt under the carpet .....




Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Shallow Hal on July 31, 2022, 07:46:47 pm
I think bubba should expand on his reasoning actually!!
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Tony on July 31, 2022, 08:22:48 pm
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)

So do you reckon an able-bodied person can shout discrimination because he can't get all the benefits a cripple person gets?
Point out to me wer I said that Tony?


I didn't say you said it
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on July 31, 2022, 08:23:15 pm
Laffin me bollix off
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2022, 10:57:47 pm
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)

So do you reckon an able-bodied person can shout discrimination because he can't get all the benefits a cripple person gets?
Point out to me wer I said that Tony?


I didn't say you said it

No ...but your suggesting I'm saying something that I'm not  through  the use of the word " so " and missrepresenting/ misinterpreting what im saying through your question .... what your suggesting I'm " rekoning " is ridiculous and far from what I'm saying .....
I'll reiterate my point if it helps

The fingal cc statement reads
" vehicle modified for Wheelchair use "

Is a wat modified for Wheelchair use ?


Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Tony on August 01, 2022, 12:46:54 am
 

Goin to be an awful row over this .....but a cripple payin the toll in a taxi won't happen if they are exempt in a private vehicle.....some pen pusher hasn't worked this  one out ....
If there is a row, it won`t involve taxi drivers as we don`t charge tolls , the onus is on the customer to pay the tolls.  " the receipt shall display the maximum fare and any tolls incurred during journey" .
Any row is between Blue Badge holders/ IWA Clane (badge issuers) and the toll operators.


Your wasting your time bubba trying to explain.

 The point  cud be argued if ya have a good barrister is all I'm sayin ......oj Simpson An micheal Jackson come to mind .....
A Wheelchair taxi is modified for wheel chair use ......if the wording is any vehicle modified for Wheelchair use .....then technically
Wheelchair taxis are exempt ...especially if they have a cripple on board .... ::fight   fuk sake  ::)

So do you reckon an able-bodied person can shout discrimination because he can't get all the benefits a cripple person gets?
Point out to me wer I said that Tony?


I didn't say you said it

No ...but your suggesting I'm saying something that I'm not  through  the use of the word " so " and missrepresenting/ misinterpreting what im saying through your question .... what your suggesting I'm " rekoning " is ridiculous and far from what I'm saying .....
I'll reiterate my point if it helps

The fingal cc statement reads
" vehicle modified for Wheelchair use "

Is a wat modified for Wheelchair use ?

The owner /driver has to be the crippled one to have the cripple pass not the passenger/ passengers
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on August 01, 2022, 09:27:38 am
Quote :
The following vehicles are exempt from paying the M50 toll charge:

Vehicles modified for disabled use
I'm with Octy on this !

IMO, ''Vehicles modified fer disabled use'' includes a WAT regardless of if they have a disabled customer on board or going to collect a disabled person, or if indeed fer private work, who could ever check which job the driver was on ?

The vehicle (WAT) has been modified fer disabled use !
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on August 01, 2022, 09:32:28 am
I did myself call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified last Friday, but was put on hold and I requested a call back, which has not happened yet, when it does I will share the information.

https://dtes.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Guidelines-for-Disabled-drivers-in-barrier-toll-plaze.pdf
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on August 01, 2022, 09:38:06 am
.... The fingal cc statement reads
" vehicle modified for Wheelchair use "

Is a wat modified for Wheelchair use ?

The owner /driver has to be the crippled one to have the cripple pass not the passenger/ passengers
Where does it say that Tony ?
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on August 01, 2022, 09:45:48 am
I did myself call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified last Friday, but was put on hold and I requested a call back, which has not happened yet, when it does I will share the information.

https://dtes.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Guidelines-for-Disabled-drivers-in-barrier-toll-plaze.pdf

The answer is in the title DISABLED DRIVERS not passengers .
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on August 01, 2022, 09:51:21 am
I did myself call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified last Friday, but was put on hold and I requested a call back, which has not happened yet, when it does I will share the information.

https://dtes.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Guidelines-for-Disabled-drivers-in-barrier-toll-plaze.pdf

The answer is in the title DISABLED DRIVERS not passengers .
What if a person has purchased a "Vehicle modified fer disabled use" to transport his disabled spouse/relative/friend, do they not qualify ?
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on August 01, 2022, 10:02:23 am
I did myself call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified last Friday, but was put on hold and I requested a call back, which has not happened yet, when it does I will share the information.

https://dtes.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Guidelines-for-Disabled-drivers-in-barrier-toll-plaze.pdf

The answer is in the title DISABLED DRIVERS not passengers .
What if a person has purchased a "Vehicle modified fer disabled use" to transport his disabled spouse/relative/friend, do they not qualify ?

Are they a DISABLED DRIVER or Passenger ?Can an able bodied person piss in a disabled toilet .The exemption is for Disabled Drivers not passengers .Big Dommos aunty Helen has one Leg if Dommo has her in his car does he go toll free ?
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on August 01, 2022, 10:21:39 am
Transport infrastructure Ireland can confirm vehicles who qualify for the Revenue Commissions Drivers and Passengers with Disabilities Tax Relief Scheme will be exempt from Toll charges. 

https://www.tii.ie/roads-tolling/tolling-information/disabled-drivers/ (https://www.tii.ie/roads-tolling/tolling-information/disabled-drivers/)
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on August 01, 2022, 10:37:32 am
Transport infrastructure Ireland can confirm vehicles who qualify for the Revenue Commissions Drivers and Passengers with Disabilities Tax Relief Scheme will be exempt from Toll charges. 

https://www.tii.ie/roads-tolling/tolling-information/disabled-drivers/ (https://www.tii.ie/roads-tolling/tolling-information/disabled-drivers/)

My original contribution Im sure that Crypmobiles are preregistered on the System and are certified to be modified for private use ,A taxi is a Commercial Vehicle for the purpose of the Toll .If taxis were toll free Bernard Scullion from the Flats ,Not Dommos Flats crosses over the East Link every day .It would be worth his while buying a Part worn Jock Crypmobile plating it up claim the tax writeoffs and free toll and sure he might even do a bit .

If you provide a service for a Family member or are a carer you PRE register the vehicle .Its really simple to understand .
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on August 01, 2022, 01:21:24 pm
I did myself call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified last Friday, but was put on hold and I requested a call back, which has not happened yet, when it does I will share the information.

https://dtes.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Guidelines-for-Disabled-drivers-in-barrier-toll-plaze.pdf

The answer is in the title DISABLED DRIVERS not passengers .
What if a person has purchased a "Vehicle modified fer disabled use" to transport his disabled spouse/relative/friend, do they not qualify ?

Are they a DISABLED DRIVER or Passenger ?Can an able bodied person piss in a disabled toilet .The exemption is for Disabled Drivers not passengers .Big Dommos aunty Helen has one Leg if Dommo has her in his car does he go toll free ?

Big dommos aunty's....is her name Eileen? 
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on August 02, 2022, 05:01:46 pm
I did myself call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified last Friday, but was put on hold and I requested a call back, which has not happened yet, when it does I will share the information.
I did get the call-back from the Disability Toll Exemption office earlier today from a very pleasant knowledgeable man,
his short answer to the question was No, so we thrashed it out very politely fer a few minutes with me making the case fer a WAT which is a vehicle modified fer disabled use, and also the case fer a spouse to have such a vehicle to transport their disabled spouse.
His answer was that the spouse would qualify even if they were to use the vehicle fer personal use without a disabled person on board, but not the WAT because it is a commercial vehicle and might not be doing disabled jobs all the time. He said that a WAT would be refused but they have a right to appeal the decision.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: watty on August 02, 2022, 05:17:09 pm
If we're commercial vehicles, why do we do the NCT instead of the CVRT (https://cvrt.ie/en/Pages/default.aspx)? 
And the Phoenix Park bans commercial vehicles without a permit but we're allowed to drive in there without hindrance.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on August 02, 2022, 06:16:19 pm
If we're commercial vehicles, why do we do the NCT instead of the CVRT (https://cvrt.ie/en/Pages/default.aspx)? 
And the Phoenix Park bans commercial vehicles without a permit but we're allowed to drive in there without hindrance.
'Swings and Roundabouts', we also get the cheap road tax and are allowed use bus lanes.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on August 02, 2022, 07:29:28 pm
If we're commercial vehicles, why do we do the NCT instead of the CVRT (https://cvrt.ie/en/Pages/default.aspx)? 
And the Phoenix Park bans commercial vehicles without a permit but we're allowed to drive in there without hindrance.

Original by Laws allowed Hackneyed Cabs .
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: watty on August 02, 2022, 07:35:32 pm
If we're commercial vehicles, why do we do the NCT instead of the CVRT (https://cvrt.ie/en/Pages/default.aspx)? 
And the Phoenix Park bans commercial vehicles without a permit but we're allowed to drive in there without hindrance.

Original by Laws allowed Hackneyed Cabs .

Can you finish that sentence, please?
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on August 02, 2022, 07:40:31 pm
If we're commercial vehicles, why do we do the NCT instead of the CVRT (https://cvrt.ie/en/Pages/default.aspx)? 
And the Phoenix Park bans commercial vehicles without a permit but we're allowed to drive in there without hindrance.

Original by Laws allowed Hackneyed Cabs .

Can you finish that sentence, please?

The by laws never banned Carriages that charged for their service a taxi is just a carriage with an engine .The Commercial Vehicle thing was to stop 40 foots traveling or parking in the Park or every Icecream van turning up on a sunny day .Do they allow Dublin Rent a Bikes as they are Commercial vehicles they are involved in commerce of making money for the owners ?
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: watty on August 02, 2022, 07:46:57 pm
 :2cheers
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 02, 2022, 10:50:24 pm
vehicles who qualify for the Revenue Commissions Drivers and Passengers with Disabilities Tax Relief Scheme will be exempt from Toll charges. 
I.E.
An able bodied person who has a spouse, parent or child who is disabled and has qualified for VRT exemption on the vehicle needed for the persons transport requirements . The toll exemption may only apply is the passenger is in the car (not sure) and blue badge parking most definitely requires the holder to be a passenger.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 02, 2022, 10:52:30 pm

What if a person has purchased a "Vehicle modified fer disabled use" to transport his disabled spouse/relative/friend, do they not qualify ?
The vehicle should be part of the VRT exemption grant to qualify.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Tony on August 03, 2022, 05:23:36 pm
I did myself call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified last Friday, but was put on hold and I requested a call back, which has not happened yet, when it does I will share the information.
I did get the call-back from the Disability Toll Exemption office earlier today from a very pleasant knowledgeable man,
his short answer to the question was No, so we thrashed it out very politely fer a few minutes with me making the case fer a WAT which is a vehicle modified fer disabled use, and also the case fer a spouse to have such a vehicle to transport their disabled spouse.
His answer was that the spouse would qualify even if they were to use the vehicle fer personal use without a disabled person on board, but not the WAT because it is a commercial vehicle and might not be doing disabled jobs all the time. He said that a WAT would be refused but they have a right to appeal the decision.


I told you that 3 pages ago ffs
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on August 03, 2022, 07:02:03 pm

I told you that 3 pages ago ffs
You guessed that 3 pages ago ya Spoofer !  lol
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 03, 2022, 11:30:01 pm

I told you that 3 pages ago ffs
You guessed that 3 pages ago ya Spoofer !  lol
And I confirmed Tony`s post. Same applies to WATs parking in disabled bays , no blue badge on display ? Have a fine or tow away.
 I`ve posted informed factual info if you care to look.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on August 03, 2022, 11:51:22 pm

I told you that 3 pages ago ffs
You guessed that 3 pages ago ya Spoofer !  lol
And I confirmed Tony`s post. Same applies to WATs parking in disabled bays , no blue badge on display ? Have a fine or tow away.
 I`ve posted informed factual info if you care to look.
I know that Bubba, your info is always on the ball.

But El Tonio the ex-Ballyfookinfermot pox was only guessing !

P.S. I met Nuala again on a Street Pastors job the weekend before last and she said to thank you again fer your help.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Tony on August 04, 2022, 05:47:13 pm

I told you that 3 pages ago ffs
You guessed that 3 pages ago ya Spoofer !  lol
And I confirmed Tony`s post. Same applies to WATs parking in disabled bays , no blue badge on display ? Have a fine or tow away.
 I`ve posted informed factual info if you care to look.
I know that Bubba, your info is always on the ball.

But El Tonio the ex-Ballyfookinfermot pox was only guessing !

P.S. I met Nuala again on a Street Pastors job the weekend before last and she said to thank you again fer your help.


I wasn't guessing Kenneth, I made thet very same inquiry when I had my WAT about 10 year ago.

Oddly enough my good wife works in the mid link office on the M7/m8 toll and not a week goes by without some grumpy wat drivers arguing with the toll booth operators trying to say they are exempt because the vehicle is a cripplemobile .

It's ok Kenneth no apologies required.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on August 04, 2022, 06:45:57 pm

I wasn't guessing Kenneth, I made thet very same inquiry when I had my WAT about 10 year ago.

Oddly enough my good wife works in the mid link office on the M7/m8 toll and not a week goes by without some grumpy wat drivers arguing with the toll booth operators trying to say they are exempt because the vehicle is a cripplemobile .

It's ok Kenneth no apologies required.
You could have told us all that 3 Fookin pages back !!  ::fds
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Shallow Hal on August 04, 2022, 07:45:55 pm
Just feedin the chimps!!
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: John m on August 04, 2022, 07:57:04 pm

I wasn't guessing Kenneth, I made thet very same inquiry when I had my WAT about 10 year ago.

Oddly enough my good wife works in the mid link office on the M7/m8 toll and not a week goes by without some grumpy wat drivers arguing with the toll booth operators trying to say they are exempt because the vehicle is a cripplemobile .

It's ok Kenneth no apologies required.
You could have told us all that 3 Fookin pages back !!  ::fds

5th post you were told but Hal wasent going to tell you .This is HIS Brexit Tread .
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Tony on August 05, 2022, 02:34:13 pm

I wasn't guessing Kenneth, I made thet very same inquiry when I had my WAT about 10 year ago.

Oddly enough my good wife works in the mid link office on the M7/m8 toll and not a week goes by without some grumpy wat drivers arguing with the toll booth operators trying to say they are exempt because the vehicle is a cripplemobile .

It's ok Kenneth no apologies required.
You could have told us all that 3 Fookin pages back !!  ::fds


You didn't ask
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Shallow Hal on August 05, 2022, 02:39:44 pm
Good to see it's business as usual on here!! lol
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on August 05, 2022, 08:11:54 pm
 All i bleedin pointed out was that a wat is a
"VEHICLE MODIFIED FOR DISABLED USE "
anyone want to argue that point ?????
I dare ya  ::fds
Gang o bleedin owlones ....
Is it not bingo nite ffs ?

Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Octavia1 on August 05, 2022, 08:13:12 pm
Fukin annoyed now ....

I'll have to have a nap ...... ::sleep
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 08, 2022, 11:14:10 am
Any answer on this yet?
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: taxi1990 on August 08, 2022, 04:41:34 pm
I forgot I had actually paid the etoll the day I went through it. wasnt refunded and I was refined before, thought I went through one but obviously didnt, was surprised they would refund you.
Title: Re: e-toll and wheelchair taxis
Post by: Belker on August 09, 2022, 11:47:35 am
Any answer on this yet?

I did myself call the Disability Toll Exemption Scheme on 1800 11 55 00 to get it clarified last Friday, but was put on hold and I requested a call back, which has not happened yet, when it does I will share the information.
I did get the call-back from the Disability Toll Exemption office earlier today from a very pleasant knowledgeable man,
his short answer to the question was No, so we thrashed it out very politely fer a few minutes with me making the case fer a WAT which is a vehicle modified fer disabled use, and also the case fer a spouse to have such a vehicle to transport their disabled spouse.
His answer was that the spouse would qualify even if they were to use the vehicle fer personal use without a disabled person on board, but not the WAT because it is a commercial vehicle and might not be doing disabled jobs all the time. He said that a WAT would be refused but they have a right to appeal the decision.