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Title: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: taxi1990 on September 29, 2023, 02:28:22 pm
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.

Just saw one beg for money now, only 1 guy gave her money. Roma gypsy woman with a picture of her family.

Should we? Are we wrong to refuse them? A few euro wouldn't break us.

Most people look at them like they are doing something wrong and are bad people but I don't think they are usually.

Saying that I knew a roma guy who lived in a house but had his wife out begging on the street acting homeless.

He showed me a video of his 10 bed house in Romania.
I asked him would he not sell it as he was living in ireland, he said its nice to have it.

Used to drop him to a prison to sign on.



Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: watty on September 29, 2023, 05:09:18 pm
Apart from the Irish Govt, no.

Also, if you're anyway vulnerable and you show you have money, you're just as likely to get beaten up and robbed of your wallet, phone & cigs.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Tony on September 29, 2023, 05:17:13 pm
Simple answer is no.

I think every roundy K garage has their own resident cup shaker
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Rat Catcher on September 30, 2023, 12:26:32 pm
Not since I drove a tapper home to Tallaght one night over 20 years ago and he told me what how much he'd "earned".

Back when I worked the bus, again over 20 years ago, there was an old school taximan (can't remember his name now) who brought homemade sandwiches in with him for the tappers/homeless nearly every day which I found quite admirable but never got round to replicating.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Belker on September 30, 2023, 12:49:03 pm
Nope ! I never give them a cent !

Beggar 1 prob has more money than me.
Beggar 2 only wants money fer drugs or alcohol.

I do my fair share of charity work with the Street Pastors in Cork.
https://streetpastors.org/locations/cork/

They often require Taxi services fer people in distress by night and I do it voluntarily, with the provisio that they must be 'Fit to travel'.
Anyone wishing to sign up in Dooblin;  rofl
https://streetpastors.org/locations/dublin/
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Shallow Hal on September 30, 2023, 01:24:54 pm
No...did ye ever see the cars they get dropped of/picked up in....top end beemers and Mercs,it's all a fukin scam.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Taxi driver42 on September 30, 2023, 01:30:09 pm
There's one on quays normally queen St Bridge mad long hair Brian I know his family I give him money
The guy used to do Houston too from drimnagh
Both mental health not drugs

The guy who can't walk properly at winetavern s st who looks ike it's very bad polio he's on drugs now
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: markmiwurdz on September 30, 2023, 02:22:12 pm
There's one on quays normally queen St Bridge mad long hair Brian I know his family I give him money
The guy used to do Houston too from drimnagh
Both mental health not drugs

The guy who can't walk properly at winetavern s st who looks ike it's very bad polio he's on drugs now

This the guy with the crucifix who keeps blessing himself?
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: watty on September 30, 2023, 03:58:12 pm

The guy who can't walk properly at winetavern s st who looks ike it's very bad polio he's on drugs now


If I'm thinking of the same fella, I'm pretty sure I've seen him walking properly.  He used to have the spot on the quays at the bottom of Queen St?

Anyways, didn't some comedian say cocaine is God's way of telling you you're earning too much money!
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: taxi1990 on September 30, 2023, 04:16:32 pm
No...did ye ever see the cars they get dropped of/picked up in....top end beemers and Mercs,it's all a fukin scam.


Some of them probably have private jets as well, handy for flying back to their mansions in  Monaco or Zurich after a day's begging on o connell bridge.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Octavia1 on September 30, 2023, 04:20:47 pm
Nope ! I never give them a cent !

Beggar 1 prob has more money than me.
Beggar 2 only wants money fer drugs or alcohol.

I do my fair share of charity work with the Street Pastors in Cork.
https://streetpastors.org/locations/cork/

They often require Taxi services fer people in distress by night and I do it voluntarily, with the provisio that they must be 'Fit to travel'.
Anyone wishing to sign up in Dooblin;  rofl
https://streetpastors.org/locations/dublin/

 Its a Scam Ken....all charities are scammers  ::fds
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Octavia1 on September 30, 2023, 04:21:21 pm
There's one on quays normally queen St Bridge mad long hair Brian I know his family I give him money
The guy used to do Houston too from drimnagh
Both mental health not drugs

The guy who can't walk properly at winetavern s st who looks ike it's very bad polio he's on drugs now

This the guy with the crucifix who keeps blessing himself?
Roma scammer parasite  ::fds
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Octavia1 on September 30, 2023, 04:24:52 pm
No...did ye ever see the cars they get dropped of/picked up in....top end beemers and Mercs,it's all a fukin scam.
The roma scammer sittin outside the insomnia in killester gets a lift to/from his scam everyday in a Mercedes...an free sandwiches everyday off the marks an the yungones workin in the place .....
Parasitic vermin
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Taxi driver42 on September 30, 2023, 04:35:48 pm
The guy can't walk is irish not roma. Normally near the bridge at Christchurch  defo can't walk bones twisted
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: taxi1990 on September 30, 2023, 06:46:38 pm
I was out in Dublin just before last Christmas, at a gig, just after it, we were waiting for a taxi and an Irish female begger asked our group for money, a random woman we met said of course you can love and gave her money (very nice woman i thought from her reaction to the beggar), then my friend did as well, I think I actually did then because you would kind of feel like a prick if you don't and the people you are with gave her money.
Peer pressure.


Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Belker on October 01, 2023, 06:46:40 am
Nope ! I never give them a cent !

Beggar 1 prob has more money than me.
Beggar 2 only wants money fer drugs or alcohol.

I do my fair share of charity work with the Street Pastors in Cork.
https://streetpastors.org/locations/cork/

They often require Taxi services fer people in distress by night and I do it voluntarily, with the provisio that they must be 'Fit to travel'.
Anyone wishing to sign up in Dooblin;  rofl
https://streetpastors.org/locations/dublin/

 Its a Scam Ken....all charities are scammers  ::fds
I know, that's why I only donate my time and services to people in distress, nobody makes any coin outta it but the person in distress gets home safely.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 01, 2023, 07:46:32 pm
I was out in Dublin just before last Christmas, at a gig, just after it, we were waiting for a taxi and an Irish female begger asked our group for money, a random woman we met said of course you can love and gave her money (very nice woman i thought from her reaction to the beggar), then my friend did as well, I think I actually did then because you would kind of feel like a prick if you don't and the people you are with gave her money.
Peer pressure.




Was the gig any good?
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: taxi1990 on October 01, 2023, 10:14:45 pm
I was out in Dublin just before last Christmas, at a gig, just after it, we were waiting for a taxi and an Irish female begger asked our group for money, a random woman we met said of course you can love and gave her money (very nice woman i thought from her reaction to the beggar), then my friend did as well, I think I actually did then because you would kind of feel like a prick if you don't and the people you are with gave her money.
Peer pressure.




Was the gig any good?


Yeah, not too bad.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: taxi1990 on October 01, 2023, 10:25:06 pm
Old roma gypsy asked me for money last night, gave her a euro, then she came over again and asked for another one, gave her another one, then she came over around 10 more times but I told her no more. That's the end of me ever giving them anything again.
 
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Taxi driver42 on October 02, 2023, 01:18:54 am
Just say no. I don't givento junkies or gypsy
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: silverbullet on October 02, 2023, 11:04:51 pm
Not since I drove a tapper home to Tallaght one night over 20 years ago and he told me what how much he'd "earned".

Back when I worked the bus, again over 20 years ago, there was an old school taximan (can't remember his name now) who brought homemade sandwiches in with him for the tappers/homeless nearly every day which I found quite admirable but never got round to replicating.
The bus in Swords? Anyway, if there's anything that will encourage a homeless person to get back on their feet, it's being offered sandwich spread on white pan bread.


(https://i.postimg.cc/522bmSnw/SARNIE.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: taxi1990 on October 02, 2023, 11:13:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkqHBNetsZk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkqHBNetsZk)

Love this clip.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Horse on October 02, 2023, 11:38:53 pm
There's a chappie that works the first bridge down from Euston. It leads onto Watling Street. I used to throw him the odd euro or 50 cent.  Then one day he got a bit greedy. He asked had I any change which I only had a small bit so I said no. Then he asked would I have a smoke. So I gave him one. Then he asked would I have another one for later. I said, ye know what mate. You're like a toll on this bridge.  Every time I drop at Whitney I've to factor in your toll to get across the bridge. And that can be multiple times a day. You've got everything outta me you're gonna get. Adios  as I drove off. Ever since I just ignore him. Greedy pig.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: silverbullet on October 02, 2023, 11:43:36 pm
There's a chappie that works the first bridge down from Euston. It leads onto Watling Street. I used to throw him the odd euro or 50 cent.  Then one day he got a bit greedy. He asked had I any change which I only had a small bit so I said no. Then he asked would I have a smoke. So I gave him one. Then he asked would I have another one for later. I said, ye know what mate. You're like a toll on this bridge.  Every time I drop at Whitney I've to factor in your toll to get across the bridge. And that can be multiple times a day. You've got everything outta me you're gonna get. Adios  as I drove off. Ever since I just ignore him. Greedy pig.
When a bum asks you "Have ya gotta smoke?" Simply reply: "No I don't, I just enjoy it"!! 8)

There's another zombie at Queen St always on the tap at night, so much so I go around by Benburb St. and onto Ellis Quay.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Shallow Hal on October 03, 2023, 11:25:21 am
As I only carry hundreds...coinage is a burden,I feel Tony McGregors pain!!
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Taxi driver42 on October 03, 2023, 11:47:43 am
There's a chappie that works the first bridge down from Euston. It leads onto Watling Street. I used to throw him the odd euro or 50 cent.  Then one day he got a bit greedy. He asked had I any change which I only had a small bit so I said no. Then he asked would I have a smoke. So I gave him one. Then he asked would I have another one for later. I said, ye know what mate. You're like a toll on this bridge.  Every time I drop at Whitney I've to factor in your toll to get across the bridge. And that can be multiple times a day. You've got everything outta me you're gonna get. Adios  as I drove off. Ever since I just ignore him. Greedy pig.
When a bum asks you "Have ya gotta smoke?" Simply reply: "No I don't, I just enjoy it"!! 8)

There's another zombie at Queen St always on the tap at night, so much so I go around by Benburb St. and onto Ellis Quay.


Brian his name is longish hair
Mental health not drugs
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: silverbullet on October 03, 2023, 03:42:39 pm
There's a chappie that works the first bridge down from Euston. It leads onto Watling Street. I used to throw him the odd euro or 50 cent.  Then one day he got a bit greedy. He asked had I any change which I only had a small bit so I said no. Then he asked would I have a smoke. So I gave him one. Then he asked would I have another one for later. I said, ye know what mate. You're like a toll on this bridge.  Every time I drop at Whitney I've to factor in your toll to get across the bridge. And that can be multiple times a day. You've got everything outta me you're gonna get. Adios  as I drove off. Ever since I just ignore him. Greedy pig.
When a bum asks you "Have ya gotta smoke?" Simply reply: "No I don't, I just enjoy it"!! 8)

There's another zombie at Queen St always on the tap at night, so much so I go around by Benburb St. and onto Ellis Quay.


Brian his name is longish hair
Mental health not drugs
The hostel is around the corner, or across by Watling St.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: markmiwurdz on October 03, 2023, 03:57:08 pm
They're fukkin everywhere now,another one at the top of Watling St,another one on High St,another one (rough lookin bird) top of Oliver Bond hill...
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Shallow Hal on October 03, 2023, 04:25:57 pm
Sure when leaving the Olympia last night they're up the lane way beside Brogans(entrance/exit to Circle and Upr Circle) walking around hassling punters...fukin annoying!!
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: silverbullet on October 03, 2023, 07:09:47 pm
Begging on the Street Winter Crisis
homeless man illustrating begging on the street
Photo: Katarzyna Bialasiewicz Photographee.eu

Winter’s coming and there are more people begging on the street than ever. Sometimes I give money. Sometimes I buy a sandwich and exchange a few words. Sometimes I don’t do anything at all. Except feel depressed.

Comedian Frankie Boyle says people always tell him, don’t give money to people begging on the street, they’ll only spend it on drink and drugs. “Well of course they do. What else are they going to spend it on?”

If you were on the streets, hungry, homeless, desperate, you’d drink to escape the hopelessness, the indignity, the shame you’d feel living in the sixth richest country in the world and falling into the gutter. It’s must be even worse at Christmas with the shop windows filled with lights and families out shopping.

When Jesus told the parable of the Good Samaritan, he knew Jews and Samaritans hated each other and reversed what his followers expected to hear in order to make them think beyond the perceived wisdom of the times. The fable tells of a foreign traveller robbed and stripped of his clothes. He is ignored by a Jewish rabbi who passes, then by the Levite. But a Samaritan takes the man home and cares for him.

Bob Dylan writes in his song I Am a Lonesome Hobo:

I am a lonesome hobo
Without family or friends
Where another man’s life might begin
That’s exactly where mine ends
I have tried my hand at bribery
Blackmail and deceit
And I’ve served time for everything
‘Cept begging on the street

Dylan reminds me of Jesus: Jewish, intense, provocative. Stand them side by side, and they would have had a far more similar appearance than the Renaissance paintings of Jesus with pale skin and faraway blue eyes.

Is begging on the street as low as one can fall, the ultimate humiliation? Dylan must have given it a lot of thought. I imagine that’s how he saw himself when he set out penniless with a guitar on his back to visit Woody Guthrie, another Lonesome Hobo who had travelled with the dust bowl migrants and played ‘This Land is Your Land’ for pennies and a bowl of soup.

The Buddha was born Siddhartha Gautama, a royal prince. The first time he left the palace, he was struck by four things which would become The Four Noble Truths; the essence of Buddhism. He understood life brings suffering, that suffering is part of living, that suffering can be ended, and that there is a path to Nirvana – the end of suffering. The Buddha cut off his hair and spent forty years begging on the street as he meandered with his message across India. 

Begging on the Street Action
Frankie Boyle’s right. Giving to someone begging on the street is a good thing. Direct action. Important to the giver as much as the receiver. Begging has a sort of honesty about it. Beggars bare their souls, their weaknesses: they remind us how lucky we are and how iniquitous a system where even two wage families may still need food banks and free school meals.

This is the second verse of Dylan’s song:

Well, once I was rather prosperous
There was nothing I did lack
I had fourteen-karat gold in my mouth
And silk upon my back
But I did not trust my brother
I carried him to blame
Which led me to my fatal doom
To wander off in shame

This is the story of a man corrupted by wealth and success who has fallen on hard times. There is no one to help him. He did not trust his brother but blamed him for his lack of position and currency. Now he is doomed and alone.

Dylan wrapped up one of his Theme Time Radio Shows with this. “If you are poor, I hope you get rich, and if you are rich, I hope you get happy.” Then he adds, “I’ll leave you with the words of Benjamin Franklin: ‘He that is of the opinion that money will do anything may be suspected of doing everything for money.’”

Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Belker on October 04, 2023, 09:30:15 am
Sure when leaving the Olympia last night they're up the lane way beside Brogans(entrance/exit to Circle and Upr Circle) walking around hassling punters...fukin annoying!!
Deacon Blue, you sure like the oldies Hal.  lol

Try putting  Fernsehgarten  in to utube and see lots of the best oldies Live on stage.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Fernsehgarten (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Fernsehgarten)

P.S. There is loads more to watch once you click on any of them like Smokie (Living next door to Alice), Samantha Fox (Touch me !!), Mambo number 5, Snap (Rhythm is a dancer), Baccara (Yes sir I can boogie), Etc, Etc ...
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Shallow Hal on October 04, 2023, 04:33:00 pm
They're still a great band,2 sold out nights,place was rocking!!

We strolled up to our old haunt Bruxelles after the gig,always good sounds playing,there was instruments set up Dow the end of the bar...drums anall...inanyways, band came on(they had been on at 10pm till just after 11pm)...absolutely brilliant,They're playing there every Monday from 10pm,they're called The Controversial All Stars,played some beauts,fantastic musicians.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Octavia1 on October 04, 2023, 05:39:48 pm
They're still a great band,2 sold out nights,place was rocking!!

We strolled up to our old haunt Bruxelles after the gig,always good sounds playing,there was instruments set up Dow the end of the bar...drums anall...inanyways, band came on(they had been on at 10pm till just after 11pm)...absolutely brilliant,They're playing there every Monday from 10pm,they're called The Controversial All Stars,played some beauts,fantastic musicians.

https://youtu.be/uvRzAC9PBHQ?si=0Rw-DawvWFsjo5X5

This them ? Ther very gay  lol
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Shallow Hal on October 04, 2023, 09:18:41 pm
They're still a great band,2 sold out nights,place was rocking!!

We strolled up to our old haunt Bruxelles after the gig,always good sounds playing,there was instruments set up Dow the end of the bar...drums anall...inanyways, band came on(they had been on at 10pm till just after 11pm)...absolutely brilliant,They're playing there every Monday from 10pm,they're called The Controversial All Stars,played some beauts,fantastic musicians.

https://youtu.be/uvRzAC9PBHQ?si=0Rw-DawvWFsjo5X5

This them ? Ther very gay  lol

Not them Octy...all guys,top notch...although they could be like The Bentley Boys...there's loads of musicians managed by an agency and depending on what you want they provide for your occasion,there could be multiple Bentley Boys bands playing the same night in multiple locations.
We were talking to the singer/rhythm guitarist and he said they all play in different bands but have played with each other in various forms for 20yrs...but they're playing Bruxelles every Monday for the foreseeable.
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Octavia1 on October 04, 2023, 10:37:32 pm
They're still a great band,2 sold out nights,place was rocking!!

We strolled up to our old haunt Bruxelles after the gig,always good sounds playing,there was instruments set up Dow the end of the bar...drums anall...inanyways, band came on(they had been on at 10pm till just after 11pm)...absolutely brilliant,They're playing there every Monday from 10pm,they're called The Controversial All Stars,played some beauts,fantastic musicians.

https://youtu.be/uvRzAC9PBHQ?si=0Rw-DawvWFsjo5X5

This them ? Ther very gay  lol

Not them Octy...all guys,top notch...although they could be like The Bentley Boys...there's loads of musicians managed by an agency and depending on what you want they provide for your occasion,there could be multiple Bentley Boys bands playing the same night in multiple locations.
We were talking to the singer/rhythm guitarist and he said they all play in different bands but have played with each other in various forms for 20yrs...but they're playing Bruxelles every Monday for the foreseeable.

Was it just an hour?  ..I mite bring the luv of me life in to see them ....sounds good ...
Title: Re: Do you give beggars money?
Post by: Shallow Hal on October 05, 2023, 05:05:31 am
They're still a great band,2 sold out nights,place was rocking!!

We strolled up to our old haunt Bruxelles after the gig,always good sounds playing,there was instruments set up Dow the end of the bar...drums anall...inanyways, band came on(they had been on at 10pm till just after 11pm)...absolutely brilliant,They're playing there every Monday from 10pm,they're called The Controversial All Stars,played some beauts,fantastic musicians.

https://youtu.be/uvRzAC9PBHQ?si=0Rw-DawvWFsjo5X5

This them ? Ther very gay  lol

Not them Octy...all guys,top notch...although they could be like The Bentley Boys...there's loads of musicians managed by an agency and depending on what you want they provide for your occasion,there could be multiple Bentley Boys bands playing the same night in multiple locations.
We were talking to the singer/rhythm guitarist and he said they all play in different bands but have played with each other in various forms for 20yrs...but they're playing Bruxelles every Monday for the foreseeable.

Was it just an hour?  ..I mite bring the luv of me life in to see them ....sounds good ...

No,they start at 10pm..play for an hour or so,we got there after 11,they came back on about 11.30ish and played till 1.30am,I was expecting to be tucked up in bed by midnight with the love of my life but hey!! lol