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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: John m on June 14, 2024, 12:44:43 pm
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https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/dublin-taxi-driver-found-guilty-of-rape-of-two-young-women-in-separate-incidents/a1280599169.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/dublin-taxi-driver-found-guilty-of-rape-of-two-young-women-in-separate-incidents/a1280599169.html)
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I knew who it was but could not say as the girls would be recognised according to the Judge .Listened to loads of people in the car telling me he was Black .
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A Dublin man has been onvicted of the rape of two young women in the back of his taxi two years ago.
Raymond Shorten (50) of Melrose Crescent, Clondalkin, Dublin 22 was found guilty of two counts of rape and one of anal rape by a jury at the Central Criminal Court today.
The jury returned guilty verdicts on all counts after a total of 76 minutes of deliberation. They started their deliberations yesterday afternoon.
Shorten had pleaded not guilty to the rape and anal rape of a 19-year-old woman on June 9, 2022 and to the rape of another woman, then aged 20, a couple of months later on August 9.
The prosecution's case was that each young woman found themselves in a taxi after a night out socialising in Dublin city centre where each was raped by the driver, Shorten.
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A Dublin man has been onvicted of the rape of two young women in the back of his taxi two years ago.
Raymond Shorten (50) of Melrose Crescent, Clondalkin, Dublin 22 was found guilty of two counts of rape and one of anal rape by a jury at the Central Criminal Court today.
The jury returned guilty verdicts on all counts after a total of 76 minutes of deliberation. They started their deliberations yesterday afternoon.
Shorten had pleaded not guilty to the rape and anal rape of a 19-year-old woman on June 9, 2022 and to the rape of another woman, then aged 20, a couple of months later on August 9.
The prosecution's case was that each young woman found themselves in a taxi after a night out socialising in Dublin city centre where each was raped by the driver, Shorten.
An hour and a quarter to come back with a unanimous guilty verdict. That was decisive.
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There was talk around Clondalkin about who it was .I would not be surprised if one or two others come out of the woodwork saying they were assaulted .He sounds like a Predator .I wonder will he lose his Licence ?
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Extraordinary defence bringing 3 other women into court to testify that they'd had sex in the taxi with him! Still, the jury who saw all the evidence only took 76 mins to find him guilty!
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Dont think much of the defence .Who said the girls could not remember if they consented or not as they were out of it so his client should get the benifit of the doubt .Plenty of legal precedent on Consent .Two rapes in Clondalkin in the last few years one girl pulled off a bike after going to garage for smokes and another just round the corner from where this creep lived .I doubt there are just these two cases he probably got away with others ..You couldnt be that confident if you were a novice Nonce .
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Extraordinary defence bringing 3 other women into court to testify that they'd had sex in the taxi with him! Still, the jury who saw all the evidence only took 76 mins to find him guilty!
That was the weirdest ting I've every read on a court case ....am I getting it right ?
His defence brought in 3 women customers he had sex
With an did one them say she " had consensual but if she wasn't drunk she wudnt have " ?
Mad stuff ...
Now I'm not tryin to be funny an this is a horrible horrific crime perpetated on them poor young women ........ but I'm not bragging or antin but I'm a fine lookin fella an all i ever got in 18 yers of drivin a taxi was an invitation to kiss a
toothless owld hag wit blue hair that had a bottle of smirnoff sticking out of
her handbag wit the lid off it an a cold rolly hangin out the side of her gob
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OCCI he waited outside one house for the girl to get him money .Thats a Phyco .I would not be surprised if the Judge gives him a life sentence .He sounds like a dangerous Phyco .Lot of really strange stuff came out in court .
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Extraordinary defence bringing 3 other women into court to testify that they'd had sex in the taxi with him! Still, the jury who saw all the evidence only took 76 mins to find him guilty!
That was the weirdest ting I've every read on a court case ....am I getting it right ?
His defence brought in 3 women customers he had sex
With an did one them say she " had consensual but if she wasn't drunk she wudnt have " ?
Mad stuff ...
Now I'm not tryin to be funny an this is a horrible horrific crime perpetated on them poor young women ........ but I'm not bragging or antin but I'm a fine lookin fella an all i ever got in 18 yers of drivin a taxi was an invitation to kiss a
toothless owld hag wit blue hair that had a bottle of smirnoff sticking out of
her handbag wit the lid off it an a cold rolly hangin out the side of her gob
Octavius,I'm a 6ft 3in hunk of man with devastating looks,in my nights life of doing this all I ever got was an approach from a tranny and a couple of obviously gay blokes,the guy is a spoofin khunt.
Not saying it's impossible to get approached by a decent looking bird but by an 19 and 20 year old in close proximity is absolute boloxology.
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It gets even weirder marko ....tink about this ...why wud the 3 women even agree to turn up in court to admit they had consensual sex wit a bloke that's bean tried for 2 rapes in the same taxi ?
I was tinkin that maybe they wer compelled by the courts because the irish police found them tru phone records....but even that wud not make sense....surely they wud be compelled for the prosecution for other reasons?
Maybe the journalist was pissed ....it is friday ?
The mind boggles
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revolting knacker.
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It gets even weirder marko ....tink about this ...why wud the 3 women even agree to turn up in court to admit they had consensual sex wit a bloke that's bean tried for 2 rapes in the same taxi ?
I was tinkin that maybe they wer compelled by the courts because the irish police found them tru phone records....but even that wud not make sense....surely they wud be compelled for the prosecution for other reasons?
Maybe the journalist was pissed ....it is friday ?
The mind boggles
The 3 women who showed would be slappers imo who don't give a phuck,just cause they were frisky doesn't mean the 2 assaulted asleep women were.
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Should be interesting what sentence he gets. There's been 2 recent stories that had totally different outcomes.
1. Suspended sentence for 'sexual assault': Man avoids jail for climbing into his elderly landlady’s bed at night and sexually assaulting her (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-avoids-jail-for-climbing-into-his-elderly-landladys-bed-at-night-and-sexually-assaulting-her/a2001822513.html)
24 yr old from Mongolia was only in the country for a few weeks and went drinking for the first time. Came home and 'sexually assaulted' his elderly landlady who had given him a room out of sympathy.
2. 7 years for rape: Man who raped housemate in 'terrifying ordeal' jailed for seven years (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-who-raped-housemate-in-terrifying-ordeal-jailed-for-seven-years-1638461.html)
Young woman was 2 weeks in the country, with no English, and got a room in the rapist's flat. Presumably they were from the same country. After a few days, the man dropped his trousers and asked for a happy ending. She obviously said no and locked herself in her room for 2 days. Eventually she came out and the guy raped her.
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Should be interesting what sentence he gets. There's been 2 recent stories that had totally different outcomes.
1. Suspended sentence for 'sexual assault': Man avoids jail for climbing into his elderly landlady’s bed at night and sexually assaulting her (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-avoids-jail-for-climbing-into-his-elderly-landladys-bed-at-night-and-sexually-assaulting-her/a2001822513.html)
24 yr old from Mongolia was only in the country for a few weeks and went drinking for the first time. Came home and 'sexually assaulted' his elderly landlady who had given him a room out of sympathy.
2. 7 years for rape: Man who raped housemate in 'terrifying ordeal' jailed for seven years (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-who-raped-housemate-in-terrifying-ordeal-jailed-for-seven-years-1638461.html)
Young woman was 2 weeks in the country, with no English, and got a room in the rapist's flat. Presumably they were from the same country. After a few days, the man dropped his trousers and asked for a happy ending. She obviously said no and locked herself in her room for 2 days. Eventually she came out and the guy raped her.
https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/exposed-first-image-of-vile-taxi-driver-who-secretly-recorded-student-in-shower/a523898160.html (https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/exposed-first-image-of-vile-taxi-driver-who-secretly-recorded-student-in-shower/a523898160.html)
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This is a shit show .According to the Sunday world he was previously convicted for another sex crime .The Girl who said she agreed to have sex with him while drunk I think has some serious issues to deal with .But there is a warning for Drivers in this story when it comes to picking up single drunk women you are very vulnerable to accusations .
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This is a shit show .According to the Sunday world he was previously convicted for another sex crime .The Girl who said she agreed to have sex with him while drunk I think has some serious issues to deal with .But there is a warning for Drivers in this story when it comes to picking up single drunk women you are very vulnerable to accusations .
I tink ther is an argument for dashcams John that record audio and location .........if yur not up to bad deeds .....they cud save yur freedom , reputation and life ......
I'm lookin for a new one if anyone has a recommendation
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I have one here in a box its yours if you want it .
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I went in to get the aldi one for € 24 quid .....they wer all sold out in an hour or sumtin the luvely Polish girl told me :(
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Think the Rodent is comming over during the week watch Racing and lose money if your interested in joining him you are welcome just ask him which day .You can collect your dashcam then .Where I work lads would not appreciate one in their taxi and I dont want to ever be called into court to verify anything on my dashcam .
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You need one that will record picture and sound, I paid 380 for mine a few years ago.
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You need one that will record picture and sound, I paid 380 for mine a few years ago.
380 I paid less than that for a Hiace Van .Then Dashcams can get you shot around where I work .Lads would not like you to appear in court to confirm that this picture was taken by you .I know somebody handed over dashcam and was summonsed to court to confirm that it was his video .
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I AM NOT CONDONING WHAT HE DID AND I'M GLAD HE WAS FOUND GUILTY.
But fer those who followed this case in detail the FACTS are that 2 very intoxicated young women customers claimed rape which the taxi driver denied while 3 other women told the court they had consentual sex with the same man in similar circumstances in his taxi.
I AM NOT CONDONING WHAT HE DID AND I'M GLAD HE WAS FOUND GUILTY.
Those are the bare FACTS of this case which in my mind adds up to reasonable doubt and I thought he would get away with it as most of the other evidence was circumstantial.
The FACT of what has happened here is that a taxi driver has been imprisoned and more or less lost all on the word of 2 heavily intoxicated young women which he denied.
I AM NOT CONDONING WHAT HE DID AND I'M GLAD HE WAS FOUND GUILTY.
Personally I think the man is a sexual predator but I don't think that was fully proven in the court. As many have stated on here fer years "Innocent until proven Guilty" most especially in the Ian Bailey case.
I don't think the prosecution proved their case beyound reasonable doubt, BUT I'M GLAD THEY GOT HIM !
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Look up the legal definition of Consent .How can you give consent if you are drunk .Lock the cunt up for life .He admitted he had sex with the DRUNK Girls that is RAPE SIMPLE AS .
Consent must be freely given, informed, and enthusiastic, and it must be ongoing throughout any sexual activity. The absence of physical resistance or the presence of silence does not mean that consent was given.
https://www.danielkreith.ie/what-is-legal-consent/#:~:text=Consent%20must%20be%20freely%20given,mean%20that%20consent%20was%20given. (https://www.danielkreith.ie/what-is-legal-consent/#:~:text=Consent%20must%20be%20freely%20given,mean%20that%20consent%20was%20given.)
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do people not get locked in a pub/nightclub and have one night stands. legally they're both raping each other?
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do people not get locked in a pub/nightclub and have one night stands. legally they're both raping each other?
Yes and no .Consent both were under the influence of drink so communicated on equal terms unlike a sober taxi driver and an inebriated passenger .But yes if a lad had a lot of gargle on him and some girl forced him into bed he would be a victim of sexual assault by the woman if she was sober .
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do people not get locked in a pub/nightclub and have one night stands. legally they're both raping each other?
It's a very Grey area which can be turned any way anyone pleases.
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Look up the legal definition of Consent .How can you give consent if you are drunk .Lock the cunt up for life .He admitted he had sex with the DRUNK Girls that is RAPE SIMPLE AS .
Consent must be freely given, informed, and enthusiastic, and it must be ongoing throughout any sexual activity. The absence of physical resistance or the presence of silence does not mean that consent was given.
https://www.danielkreith.ie/what-is-legal-consent/#:~:text=Consent%20must%20be%20freely%20given,mean%20that%20consent%20was%20given. (https://www.danielkreith.ie/what-is-legal-consent/#:~:text=Consent%20must%20be%20freely%20given,mean%20that%20consent%20was%20given.)
It's a very Grey area John M, fer your nit picking understanding of it, either party may require written permission signed by a solicitor before engaging.
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Ken its like this if she wakes up and dosent remember your name you are guilty of something unless she dosent want to remember your name .We Taxi drivers have a duty of care and are trusted a million taxi trips a year and a handfull of incidents .More Barmen getting tail from drunks than taxi drivers but thats never mentioned .This lad sounds like a Preditor went hunting for vunerable girls .Thing about taxi drivers is people have a love hate relationship with us Were great when they are in a taxi and Cunts while they wait .Not many other jobs where you deal with the public that has such Schitsofrenic customers
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I agree John m and I'm delighted they locked this kount up because I think he was indeed a sexual predator.
I AM NOT CONDONING WHAT HE DID AND I'M GLAD HE WAS FOUND GUILTY.
But I don't think that was fully proven in the court. As many have stated on here fer years "Innocent until proven Guilty" most especially in the Ian Bailey case.
I don't think the prosecution proved their case beyound reasonable doubt, BUT I'M GLAD THEY GOT HIM !
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From what I read about the case Ken, he followed a drunk girl up the road, she was not flagging a taxi, pulled up and she got in. He's a predator. End of.
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From what I read about the case Ken, he followed a drunk girl up the road, she was not flagging a taxi, pulled up and she got in. He's a predator. End of.
I AM NOT CONDONING WHAT HE DID AND I'M GLAD HE WAS FOUND GUILTY.
Indeed what you stated above is true Horse, but that is not a Rape conviction, it's circumstanial evidence.
I AM NOT CONDONING WHAT HE DID AND I'M GLAD HE WAS FOUND GUILTY.
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It's predatory behaviour. That's enough in my book.
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The jury who heard all the evidence took just 76 minutes to make up their mind. It was beyond reasonable doubt to infinity!
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The jury who heard all the evidence took just 76 minutes to make up their mind. It was beyond reasonable doubt to infinity!
Yea, we kinda all know that.
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I don't think the prosecution proved their case beyound reasonable doubt, BUT I'M GLAD THEY GOT HIM !
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It's predatory behaviour. That's enough in my book.
I agree he was a sexual predator, but that does not make him guilty of rape.
The prosecution in my eyes did not Prove their case without reasonable doubt..
I AM NOT CONDONING WHAT HE DID AND I'M GLAD HE WAS FOUND GUILTY.
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It's predatory behaviour. That's enough in my book.
I agree. if you are 100% sober and she is pissed, you should be seeing the inside of a cell.
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You need one that will record picture and sound, I paid 380 for mine a few years ago.
380 I paid less than that for a Hiace Van .Then Dashcams can get you shot around where I work .Lads would not like you to appear in court to confirm that this picture was taken by you .I know somebody handed over dashcam and was summonsed to court to confirm that it was his video .
There are pros and cons to using a dash cam I suppose but Im in favor of them. Even the gangsters should understand why we need them.
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Someone told me ges gilligans nephew
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Hired a taxi over the weekend. The African immigrant driver was great craic... he says his last passenger told him they've had to cancel 2 cars before they got him as they were both white blokes in their 50s... then remarked 7 minutes is good going for a white man of his age anall...
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Think the Rodent is comming over during the week watch Racing and lose money if your interested in joining him you are welcome just ask him which day .You can collect your dashcam then .Where I work lads would not appreciate one in their taxi and I dont want to ever be called into court to verify anything on my dashcam .
Wednesday would suit me ifn that's OK with you, erm...
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Think the Rodent is comming over during the week watch Racing and lose money if your interested in joining him you are welcome just ask him which day .You can collect your dashcam then .Where I work lads would not appreciate one in their taxi and I dont want to ever be called into court to verify anything on my dashcam .
Wednesday would suit me ifn that's OK with you, erm...
Wednesday Ascot Racing Give OCCi a buzz he is coming as well .Will I get in some Hagis for lunch ? Or Pizza .
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Think the Rodent is comming over during the week watch Racing and lose money if your interested in joining him you are welcome just ask him which day .You can collect your dashcam then .Where I work lads would not appreciate one in their taxi and I dont want to ever be called into court to verify anything on my dashcam .
Wednesday would suit me ifn that's OK with you, erm...
Wednesday Ascot Racing Give OCCi a buzz he is coming as well .Will I get in some Hagis for lunch ? Or Pizza .
Yea I'm up for it ....I've me pilates class at 12 on Wednesdays tho so it'll be the afternoon will do ?
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Could do Thursday if that suits you better, Octy.
Haggis sounds like an excellent option, erm. Just for information purposes - and not in any way questioning your culinary skill - I usually pop the Haggis or Hageye in the oven in a pyrex dish half filled with boiling water for 90-120 mins (you can't really overcook the fucker) and serve with potatoes and diced turnip which are boiled from cold together, simmered for 18 minutes and mashed with a little butter and cream or milk. For the sauce I just wash and slice a punnet of mushrooms, chuck them in a dry non stick pan on a high heat, add a little whisky or whiskey (don't overdo it), cook down for a couple of minutes and add a tub of cream. That can then simmer for anything between 12 and 24 minutes.
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P.S. Could you do an extra plate for me to bring back for Mrs. Catcher!
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Could do Thursday if that suits you better, Octy.
Haggis sounds like an excellent option, erm. Just for information purposes - and not in any way questioning your culinary skill - I usually pop the Haggis or Hageye in the oven in a pyrex dish half filled with boiling water for 90-120 mins (you can't really overcook the fucker) and serve with potatoes and diced turnip which are boiled from cold together, simmered for 18 minutes and mashed with a little butter and cream or milk. For the sauce I just wash and slice a punnet of mushrooms, chuck them in a dry non stick pan on a high heat, add a little whisky or whiskey (don't overdo it), cook down for a couple of minutes and add a tub of cream. That can then simmer for anything between 12 and 24 minutes.
Wednesday is grand rat ....but I ain't eatin Scottish sheep bladders ....ill order a vegan pizza tanks ::sleep
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Liver & mushroom pizza?
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Liver & mushroom pizza?
Yuk ::fds
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https://youtu.be/qBtsURiRZSs?feature=shared
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https://youtu.be/qBtsURiRZSs?feature=shared
lol
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Could do Thursday if that suits you better, Octy.
Haggis sounds like an excellent option, erm. Just for information purposes - and not in any way questioning your culinary skill - I usually pop the Haggis or Hageye in the oven in a pyrex dish half filled with boiling water for 90-120 mins (you can't really overcook the fucker) and serve with potatoes and diced turnip which are boiled from cold together, simmered for 18 minutes and mashed with a little butter and cream or milk. For the sauce I just wash and slice a punnet of mushrooms, chuck them in a dry non stick pan on a high heat, add a little whisky or whiskey (don't overdo it), cook down for a couple of minutes and add a tub of cream. That can then simmer for anything between 12 and 24 minutes.
There's just no end to them is there..........your limitless abilities.
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Merch if you are near Clondalkin drop in .The Bullit might even drop in if he is still waiting suitability .
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Could do Thursday if that suits you better, Octy.
Haggis sounds like an excellent option, erm. Just for information purposes - and not in any way questioning your culinary skill - I usually pop the Haggis or Hageye in the oven in a pyrex dish half filled with boiling water for 90-120 mins (you can't really overcook the fucker) and serve with potatoes and diced turnip which are boiled from cold together, simmered for 18 minutes and mashed with a little butter and cream or milk. For the sauce I just wash and slice a punnet of mushrooms, chuck them in a dry non stick pan on a high heat, add a little whisky or whiskey (don't overdo it), cook down for a couple of minutes and add a tub of cream. That can then simmer for anything between 12 and 24 minutes.
There's just no end to them is there..........your limitless abilities.
They could have a leg each. Although like Aldi lamb chops, there are probably two long legs and two short ones.
Disclaimer: no haggis was harmed during the researching or writing of this article. The same can not be said however about a few wee drams. So, what is a haggis?
Haggi – plural of haggis, though sometimes hagisses can be used – are native to Scotland and wonderful beasties that deserve the crown ‘great chieftain of the pudding race’. It has to be noted, the Scottish ‘pudding’ doesn’t need to mean a desert. Pudding is any foodstuff inside a cloth or natural structure (i.e., animal stomach or bladder), that is cooked to perfection; as there is no other way to cook puddings.
Puddings can be meaty, fruity, starchy, or any combination. Suet is added to improve the consistency, herbs and spices are added to the mix to enhance the flavour.
Is the haggis just a pudding?
The haggis is not just THE ultimate pudding, but it’s a clever wee beastie as well.
Haggis usually consists of a bladder or stomach, filled with liver, kidney, lungs; all kinds of organs. Some carbohydrates are present as well, oats usually, but that depends on the foodstuffs that are available to the haggis. The main difference with more commonly known mammals is that in the haggis the organs are not nicely separate but mixed together in a unique anatomical configuration.
The haggis originated in the Highlands of Scotland, the Hebridean Haggis. It is a small and tough beastie, which of course it had to be in order to survive in that challenging environment. From there they spread out over the northern parts of Scotland. The beasties are good swimmers, so travel between the isles and the mainland is no problem.
What is special about their legs?
An anatomical specialty of the haggis is the beasties’ legs. They tend to have shorter legs on one side and longer on the other. This is to facilitate running around the mountains. The ones that run around the mountains clockwise have shorter legs on the right side, the left running haggi have legs that are shorter on the left.
mountain landscapre, with an arrow painted over one maountain, The arrow points anticlockwise
Left turning mountain Ideal for left running hagisses with longer legs on the right Picture courtesy of Liz at BylinesScotland adjusted with permission
There is much speculation about this, with some suggesting males and females have different legs (nonsense of course, a right leg longer haggis trying to mount a left leg longer haggis would just slide off and roll down the mountain to almost certain death, and vice versa. So interbreeding would be very dangerous except for those few clever enough to channel the Haggis Kama Sutra and find alternative positions.
a plie of stones in the front left of the picture. in the background a large mountain with its top in the clouds. An arrow is drawn on the picture over the mountain, it points anti-clockwise
Right turning mountain ideal for right running hagisses with longer legs on the left Picture by Liz at BylinesScotland ajusted with permission
Leg length does tend to vary per clan as some mountains are more amenable to clockwise running and others to anticlockwise, so it is a regional thing.
Suggestions that the leg situation is reversed in Australia is a distinct possibility as mountains behave differently down under. But the practical implications of this are uncertain, as the wild haggis population is too small in Australia for any statistically relevant research.
Breeding of the haggis species
Most haggis breeding occurs in the wild, though there have been attempts at haggis farming. Unfortunately the haggis requires very specific circumstances such as the right type of mountain for its legs, the right type of heather to run in and to eat, rainwater of the correct acidity to drink and shower, peat to dig a nest. This is not easy to duplicate in artificial circumstances. But attempts are ongoing.
Haggis has two different species names, Haggis scottii (with a sinistrous and a dexterous variety) or Scoticus, or Dux magnus gentis venteris saginati which is a reference to the old ‘Great Chieftain’ accolade.
In the Highlands, where the circumstances for haggis breeding are optimal, there has been some success breeding larger varieties with shorter hair (of course the wild haggis needs a long wiry coat to keep warm). Fank (=litter) size has increased with selective breeding and can now be up to eight haglets (the original wild variety would only have two or three per yearly birth). To determine gender and possible pregnancy and ultrasound scan can be used, aiding the breeding project even further.
However the attempt to breed even-legged haggis was a disaster. A small haglet being born with diagonally shortened legs caused the poor beastie a lot of trouble walking (and of course, no mountain sunning was possible). Therefore this type of cross-breeding should be discouraged.
Even the beasties’ thirst for a dram or six has been modified with breeding, though falling-over disease (caused by too large an intake of the national drink) is still a problem if not closely supervised.
Falling-over disease or ‘severe Burns’
This is a very common veterinary emergency mainly seen in wild haggi and unsupervised captive specimens.The cause is thought to be overindulgence in a certain tipple, which causes clumsiness, falling over and dehydration. This disease affects humans and haggi both. It mainly presents on a Friday or Saturday evening, and in humans it seems to be particularly prominent in the student variety of the breed.
Less is known about a specific age or occupational demographic of affected haggi. To decide whether it has a viral or purely an environmental cause, more research is required, and indeed empirical induction of the condition seems to be ongoing in both populations.
Affected haggi need urgent care and should be taken to the nearest veterinary clinic with haste. This post describes in detail how haggi are treated at clinics.
https://www.facebook.com/wilsonandpartners/posts/pfbid0xLDmwGSHfgZA1Sp1RZWGNXmdpZuQVcuiYM2hwY9M3agrWPTvwrbk995iMRgXPtbVl (https://www.facebook.com/wilsonandpartners/posts/pfbid0xLDmwGSHfgZA1Sp1RZWGNXmdpZuQVcuiYM2hwY9M3agrWPTvwrbk995iMRgXPtbVl)
In short, they need an Irn Bru drip (into the body of the Haggis if a suitable vein can not be found), and as soon as the beastie starts to improve, start feeding little pieces of shortbread. Before releasing the haggis back in the wild make sure you top up its necessary level of whisky, of which the haggis can not survive the harsh Scottish winter without.
Less severe cases where the haggis is still able to react it may not require the Irn Bru. If so, a steady supply of whisky and shortbread will be enough to help the beastie recover.
https://www.facebook.com/144988432240626/posts/pfbid033xk6G2SqWm5DbhxoYG8Fw2zGLA295EgJoRSn1jKYqCucYagD4jC5VfwH5P4ZeHvHl/ (https://www.facebook.com/144988432240626/posts/pfbid033xk6G2SqWm5DbhxoYG8Fw2zGLA295EgJoRSn1jKYqCucYagD4jC5VfwH5P4ZeHvHl/)
And make sure you always wrap the haggis in a tartan cloth, as that is the only thing their delicate skin and fur tolerates for longer than a few minutes. Ideally it would be the haggis clan’s tartan, but if the correct one is not available any tartan will do. Be certain to change the cloth every four to six hours so the tartan doesn’t have a chance to imprint on the haggis’ skin and brain and alter the haggis’ clan identity.
That of course would cause confusion and possibly long term mental health problems for the poor Haggis, and therapists who can deal with this are few and far between.
Are there different breeds of haggis?
The most important breakthrough in breeding the haggis is the American variety, as importing haggis into the US has been strictly forbidden for years.
This was obviously because they did not want to risk importing the Scottish variety of falling-over disease, a disease the Americans tried to eliminate in their country by long years of ‘Prohibition’, when what they presumed to be the causative agent of the illness was banned.
So Americans have had to breed their own variety of haggis from stock they had left over from before the ban. This seems to have been effective, although real haggis connoisseurs are likely to be able to tell the difference. Unfortunately neither the Prohibition nor the haggis import ban has managed to eliminate falling-over disease, in humans or in haggi.
Interbreeding between the American and the Scottish haggis has not happened, as the beasties may be good swimmers but not good enough to cross an ocean. So whether it is a genuinely new breed, or just a new variety within the breed, is impossible to tell.
Other varieties have been attempted, including the vegetarian haggis but the scientists failed to keep them alive long enough to breed, because a haggis can’t survive without liver, kidney or lung tissue.
There has been a report of a flying haggis, but after careful consideration the author decided this is a hoax. Why would a self respecting haggis take to the skies? It is simply not believable.
Haggis hunting
In order to catch the wild haggis, hunts are regularly organised. There is some controversy over when hunting is permitted. The breeding season is not a good time of course, as that would prevent the population maintaining numbers.
Most people agree the hunting season starts on St Andrews Day (30 November) and ends on Burns night (25 January). Some hunting outside of these dates might be done if the breeding in captivity failed that year and a supply of haggis is needed outside of Burns Night.
We will not go into hunting protocols, as that would give humans an unfair advantage when attempting to catch a haggis.
Address the haggis
If you do manage to get hold of a haggis and want to enjoy its particular flavour, there are a few stipulations. Neeps and tatties have to accompany the haggis. A bottle of Scotch needs to be at hand, single malt is preferable. And of course you need to know how to address the haggis properly before consumption.
Without giving the full address, it would be a travesty to consume any haggis, especially on Burns Night.
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https://bylines.scot/lifestyle/culture/gaelic-and-scots/the-wild-haggis-all-the-facts-and-no-fiction/ (https://bylines.scot/lifestyle/culture/gaelic-and-scots/the-wild-haggis-all-the-facts-and-no-fiction/) 8)
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She barely references the tens of thousands of cabbies who do their job properly.
https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/deirdre-reynolds-how-can-women-feel-safe-getting-into-taxis-after-rapist-driver-case/a1645646200.html (https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/deirdre-reynolds-how-can-women-feel-safe-getting-into-taxis-after-rapist-driver-case/a1645646200.html)
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https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/rapist-taxi-driver-targeted-me-for-sex-he-was-looking-for-a-drunk-girl/a665460455.html (https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/rapist-taxi-driver-targeted-me-for-sex-he-was-looking-for-a-drunk-girl/a665460455.html)
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https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/rapist-taxi-driver-targeted-me-for-sex-he-was-looking-for-a-drunk-girl/a665460455.html (https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/rapist-taxi-driver-targeted-me-for-sex-he-was-looking-for-a-drunk-girl/a665460455.html)
https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/dublin-taxi-driver-rapist-was-prolific-facebook-ranter-who-moaned-about-bogey-cabs/a1867673100.html (https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/dublin-taxi-driver-rapist-was-prolific-facebook-ranter-who-moaned-about-bogey-cabs/a1867673100.html)
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John m:
"Merch if you are near Clondalkin drop in .The Bullit might even drop in if he is still waiting suitability" .
Appreciate the invite but I suspect the haggis will ensure the party won't be oversubscribed...
I'm in for me own suitability in Northpoint tommorow around mid-day.If I earn a trummer and a monkey today I can take two days off needed for these sessions..Still have to get off the sofa though.
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If you like black pudding you'd most likely like it, MfH... Give it a go sometime. I'm not sure if M&S still sell it but the one the younger not so young lad's wee protestant girlfriend brought down from Norn Iron was better than the M&S version IMO... now that I think of it M&S (or Sainsburys?) actually do a veggie version for Octy and his ilk.
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If you like black pudding you'd most likely like it, MfH... Give it a go sometime. I'm not sure if M&S still sell it but the one the younger not so young lad's wee protestant girlfriend brought down from Norn Iron was better than the M&S version IMO... now that I think of it M&S (or Sainsburys?) actually do a veggie version for Octy and his ilk.
I thought it was closer to white pudding, but I probably had the Taig version. 8)
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Sounds lovely...
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Yous do realise that this thread was about a serial rapist an decended rapidly inta a a cookery class for a pigs bladder stuffed wit sausage meat ?
An Ken says I'm " a bit of a mad cnut " ::)
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https://www.carolinescooking.com/haggis-bon-bons/ (https://www.carolinescooking.com/haggis-bon-bons/)
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She barely references the tens of thousands of cabbies who do their job properly.
https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/deirdre-reynolds-how-can-women-feel-safe-getting-into-taxis-after-rapist-driver-case/a1645646200.html (https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/deirdre-reynolds-how-can-women-feel-safe-getting-into-taxis-after-rapist-driver-case/a1645646200.html)
Sure how can any of us feel safe getting on a plane after September the 11th? scaremongering bullshit. Get ready for the drunk lectures now from feminist passengers.
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She barely references the tens of thousands of cabbies who do their job properly.
https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/deirdre-reynolds-how-can-women-feel-safe-getting-into-taxis-after-rapist-driver-case/a1645646200.html (https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/deirdre-reynolds-how-can-women-feel-safe-getting-into-taxis-after-rapist-driver-case/a1645646200.html)
Sure how can any of us feel safe getting on a plane after September the 11th? scaremongering bullshit. Get ready for the drunk lectures now from feminist passengers.
The statistical historical ammount of taxi drivers falsely acused of rape far outnumbers the ammount of taxi drivers found guilty of rape if you do a bit of a Google...
Bean falsely accused of a rape would have similar psychological impact of a rape victim ide imagine ...
Imagine bean arrested an locked up initially an spending 2 -4 years going tru the legal process ....imagine the ostracisation.........the doubt in your family ...
it stresses the
Need for a dashcam or 2 with audio ....it cud literally save your life