Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Belker on July 07, 2024, 10:53:51 am
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In trying to piece together the new expected 9% "Weighted" rise in taxi fares 2024.
(This is what I have managed to come up with, which may or may not be fully correct ??).
Tariff 1 start up rises from 4.20 to 4.60,
The basic running rate rises from 1.30 per km up to 1.32,
After 23.80 is on the meter the rate rises to 1.72 per km, up from the previous 1.65,
Booking fee rises from 2.00 to 3.00.
Tariff 2 start up rises from 4.80 to 5.40,
The basic running rate rises from 1.71 per km up to 1.81,
After 32.00 is on the meter the rate rises to 2.20 per km, up from the previous 2.00,
Booking fee rises from 2.00 to 3.00.
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This below is our current Fare card;
https://www.transportforireland.ie/fares/taxi-fares/ (https://www.transportforireland.ie/fares/taxi-fares/)
And here below is the newly proposed Fare card, which is not too easy to understand;
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Draft-Taxi-Regulation-Maximum-Fares-Order-2024.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Draft-Taxi-Regulation-Maximum-Fares-Order-2024.pdf)
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...... New tariff 3 for Sat Sun midnight to 4
Where did you hear that Van D ?
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Booking Fee €3.00 is a welcome increase.
No need for me to make my submission to the impotent "consultation".
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Booking Fee €3.00 is a welcome increase.
No need for me to make my submission to the impotent "consultation".
The NTA public consultation process is usually just a showpiece to say that they did it.
I'm not too sure about the 3.00 booking fee thing though, if the 8 seater taxies object to it because the max they can charge in Extras is 9.00 with a 2.00 booking fee and 7 additional pax, then the booking fee increase might fall through the cracks, but most thankfully John m does Not have an 8 seater, but still he might object on their behalf ?
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I only read the line I wanted to raed from the link but I'd imagine someone just forgot to amend the maximum extras permissible. That ought to be addressed before programming, I guess.
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Had another slower quick look at the draft, Ken. I don't see any mention of maximum permissible extras... am I missing it?
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Had another slower quick look at the draft, Ken. I don't see any mention of maximum permissible extras... am I missing it?
No, it's not there, but the 8 seater Taxis are currently allowed a 2.00 booking fee and 7 additional passengers to make a maximum of 9.00 in extras, but the new format with a 3.00 booking fee would take that up to 10.00 in extras. Todays meters can only hold four digits in the extras section, as in 9 . 0 0, so if it's a Tenner in extras then there might be problems ??
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I wish they just left it as is. There is no need for a rise. All it'll do is make less ppl get taxis.
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...... New tariff 3 for Sat Sun midnight to 4
Where did you hear that Van D ?
(https://i.ibb.co/tmYcnMD/Screenshot-20240707-125902-Adobe-Acrobat.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VjMDbWT)
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In the pdf.Does no-one read the shite they send you
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...... New tariff 3 for Sat Sun midnight to 4
Where did you hear that Van D ?
My Bad, Van D, oops
I only browsed over the Chrimbo rates not seeing that Fri/Sat nights Midnight to 4am are now going to be on Tariff 3.
"Special Rate for Weekend Nights, Christmas & New Year:
To be displayed in the Rate/Tariff Window as 3,
A special rate applies every Saturday and every Sunday from 00.00 hours to 04.00 hours,
and Christmas Eve/St. Stephens Day/New Years Eve."
The new Tariff 3 Weekend rate will seemingly be starting at 5.40, up from 4.80,
and the running rate will be 2.20 per km, up from the previous Chrimbo Tarrif 3 rate of 2.00 per km.
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In the pdf.Does no-one read the shite they send you
Apologies Van D, I was posting my reply while you sent this.
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I wish they just left it as is. There is no need for a rise. All it'll do is make less ppl get taxis.
I remember in 1982 when a pint was less than £1 (Irl punt).
Today it is about 6 times that price, and the punters havent stopped drinking it yet !
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It's mad that someone in charge thinks more money will put more taxis on the road at night.It has fuk all to do with money IMO.
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Horse:
"I wish they just left it as is. There is no need for a rise. All it'll do is make less ppl get taxis. "
I used to think like this as I don't wanna be a greedy fukker but everything is continuing ot increase in price.Our vehicles are a lot more expensive than when I started 14 years ago.My first heap was €1800.The next one was €6000 and now my current one was still nearly 20k after grants.My costs have increased significantly and the public have gotten used to bee driven around in relatively new cars.
The wheelchair lads are paying even more out than the saloon drivers.Someone has to pay for this shiny stuff at the end of the day.Cars aren't getting cheaper anytime soon.
The passengers don't seem to care that an app taxi costs them at least two euro extra.Most of them don't even notice.Way too much money out there.
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It's mad that someone in charge thinks more money will put more taxis on the road at night.It has fuk all to do with money IMO.
I dunno MFH ?
The old basic night time weekend rate in early 2022 was €1.45 per km, the old night time initial/starting charge was €4.20.
After the next NTA proposal goes through it will be an initial/starting charge of €5.40 and a running night time weekend rate of €2.20 per km (Midnight to 4am Sat/Sun).
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I dunno either Belker...money is not the reason lads work nights IMO.They either can't handle the traffic or they have nowhere else they need to be.You can make an ok living on the days.
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I think the NTA did major league Screw over the daytime Taxi drivers by adding only pittance to their pot.
As I'm a Night driver myself and indeed as MFH quoted; "can't handle the traffic or they have nowhere else they need to be", the nua proposals suit me down to the ground.
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I get that they're trying to incentivise the night shift which is great for night lads who are already working it but more money won't push drivers off the day shift to work nights.
I suspect day drivers benifit from the shit traffic which pushes up the fares a bit more.Maybe that's why we're not getting much extra.
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I agree mfh. Even if they trebled the fares I still wouldn't go back to that night slop. I'd retire first.
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I agree mfh. Even if they trebled the fares I still wouldn't go back to that night slop. I'd retire first.
This is a serious topic Horse, please do not dis-respect it.
Much as the new fare's suit my style of night time work,
I don't think it very fair fer my day time colleagues to be so disadvantaged.
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I am being serious. I will never work nights again.
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I agree mfh. Even if they trebled the fares I still wouldn't go back to that night slop. I'd retire first.
This is a serious topic Horse, please do not dis-respect it.
Much as the new fare's suit my style of night time work,
I don't think it very fair fer my day time colleagues to be so disadvantaged.
You don't seem to worry too much about your colleagues being disadvantaged when your getting your lick lacky arse licking jobs do you? Don't pretend you care about other drivers when your licky lacky stickers say otherwise.
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I agree mfh. Even if they trebled the fares I still wouldn't go back to that night slop. I'd retire first.
This is a serious topic Horse, please do not dis-respect it.
Much as the new fare's suit my style of night time work,
I don't think it very fair fer my day time colleagues to be so disadvantaged.
You don't seem to worry too much about your colleagues being disadvantaged when your getting your lick lacky arse licking jobs do you? Don't pretend you care about other drivers when your licky lacky stickers say otherwise.
He's on the Dutch gold again horse ...be carefull...an its not even Wednesday.....heel be callin ya a mong next ....then boastin about trummers
Gas cnut lol
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"This is a serious topic Horse, please do not dis-respect it"
rofl
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I agree mfh. Even if they trebled the fares I still wouldn't go back to that night slop. I'd retire first.
This is a serious topic Horse, please do not dis-respect it.
Much as the new fare's suit my style of night time work,
I don't think it very fair fer my day time colleagues to be so disadvantaged.
You don't seem to worry too much about your colleagues being disadvantaged when your getting your lick lacky arse licking jobs do you? Don't pretend you care about other drivers when your licky lacky stickers say otherwise.
He's on the Dutch gold again horse ...be carefull...an its not even Wednesday.....heel be callin ya a mong next ....then boastin about trummers
Gas cnut lol
He's a fucking looney if you ask me. He actually said he cares about day drivers not getting as much of a raise as night drivers. Like fuck he does. As he boots by ordinary man who's nearer the job but Ken just steals it anyway. He cares rofl
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I'm (mostly) a day driver doing very few app jobs.This set of proposals does f-all for me.
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I’d be the same Horse.
Wouldn’t care how much could be made on nights.
Couldn’t be dealing with pissheads
I agree mfh. Even if they trebled the fares I still wouldn't go back to that night slop. I'd retire first.
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Careful Horse he might do a Larry on you.
Slit yer throat
I agree mfh. Even if they trebled the fares I still wouldn't go back to that night slop. I'd retire first.
This is a serious topic Horse, please do not dis-respect it.
Much as the new fare's suit my style of night time work,
I don't think it very fair fer my day time colleagues to be so disadvantaged.
You don't seem to worry too much about your colleagues being disadvantaged when your getting your lick lacky arse licking jobs do you? Don't pretend you care about other drivers when your licky lacky stickers say otherwise.
He's on the Dutch gold again horse ...be carefull...an its not even Wednesday.....heel be callin ya a mong next ....then boastin about trummers
Gas cnut lol
He's a fucking looney if you ask me. He actually said he cares about day drivers not getting as much of a raise as night drivers. Like fuck he does. As he boots by ordinary man who's nearer the job but Ken just steals it anyway. He cares rofl
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Ah kens alright Jack. Although he can get a bit stroppy when the aul schtick starts flying.
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I'm (mostly) a day driver doing very few app jobs.This set of proposals does f-all for me.
The new proposed tarrif doesen't do a lot fer the day drivers, I think the NTA just want the press and the nua taxi coalition crowd off their backs, and their doing that by weighting the new increase heavily in favour of the night drivers, which I think will actually work and more drivers will work the soon to be very lucrative weekend tarrif 3 rate.
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Ah kens alright Jack. Although he can get a bit stroppy when the aul schtick starts flying.
This is a serious topic Horse, please do not dis-respect it.
Topics descend in to farce very quickly on here Horse if even one poster starts off,
lets see if we can just manage to keep one single topic farce free.
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How is it a serious topic ?
People living in tents on the street is serious or the high cost of living
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Assuming the increase to PUC has been approved by NTA adviser, Free Now, and remains as per the draft, I think my next lengthy moan will be the irrational supremacy of Stephen over Patrick. Obviously, when one considers the names alone it's easy to conclude that the former exudes a touch of class that the latter unequivocally lacks. However, Paddy's Day is the busiest day of the year so, IMO, should also be subject to Rate 3.
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I wish they just left it as is. There is no need for a rise. All it'll do is make less ppl get taxis.
Can you imagine the bitching from the drunks at night over the increase. :(
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I wish they just left it as is. There is no need for a rise. All it'll do is make less ppl get taxis.
Can you imagine the bitching from the drunks at night over the increase. :(
Between midnight and 4am I doubt they will care very much .....
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...... New tariff 3 for Sat Sun midnight to 4
Where did you hear that Van D ?
(https://i.ibb.co/tmYcnMD/Screenshot-20240707-125902-Adobe-Acrobat.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VjMDbWT)
Wud This get blokes back workin nites ? ....it has me
tinkin twice ....?
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How much extra might a night driver make?30 to 50 squid?With all the card payments they'd be lucky to get an extra score a shift after tax.
I don't think so meself but best of luck to all that make a bit extra.Hopefully there will be less night lads on the day shift as a result.
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No way would I ever work a night again.
No matter how much money could be made
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I wish they just left it as is. There is no need for a rise. All it'll do is make less ppl get taxis.
Can you imagine the bitching from the drunks at night over the increase. :(
Between midnight and 4am I doubt they will care very much .....
They will in the country towns, the farmers wont like it at all.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/cd0g-DsiDcc?si=bBqa9XAMb-oUV4n-
This be handy for runners lol
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No way would I ever work a night again.
No matter how much money could be made
Same Jack. I'd rather shovel shite down some lane way in the pissings of rain and howling wind in the dead of winter for a euro an hour than work another night.
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Blokes wetting themselves thinking about 16th March next year.
FFS
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Ah kens alright Jack. Although he can get a bit stroppy when the aul schtick starts flying.
This is a serious topic Horse, please do not dis-respect it.
Topics descend in to farce very quickly on here Horse if even one poster starts off,
lets see if we can just manage to keep one single topic farce free.
Why be so serious Ken? Yur hitting 60 , smoke , drink an sit in a car all nite an dont exercise an eat microwave dinners ....yull be dead soon ....chill out an Learn to have a laugh fffs ....
::sleep
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Yea Ken. Chill out. Cook a steak ffs.
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Yea Ken. Chill out. Cook a steak ffs.
An onions ::sleep
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Wouldn’t taste nice from a microwave
Yea Ken. Chill out. Cook a steak ffs.
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Wouldn’t taste nice from a microwave
Yea Ken. Chill out. Cook a steak ffs.
Sprinkle on your steaks etc.
https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/en-IE/products/312712585 (https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/en-IE/products/312712585)
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No way would I ever work a night again.
No matter how much money could be made
Very true Jack....I don't even like driving at night anymore,maybe it might encourage some of the day time lads but the "extra" money doesn't matter to me anymore,Mon-Fri and the odd Sun morning for a couple of hours if I'm feeling it is more than enough for me.
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The pub trade is fooked.
Never mind the nite time economy.
I think we have 2 nite clubs in Cork left.
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How much extra might a night driver make?30 to 50 squid?With all the card payments they'd be lucky to get an extra score a shift after tax.
I don't think so meself but best of luck to all that make a bit extra.Hopefully there will be less night lads on the day shift as a result.
I think it might be a good bit more than 30 to 50 squid.....
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Between midnight and 4am I doubt they will care very much .....
They will in the country towns, the farmers wont like it at all.
I find the West Cork farmers allright, I had a fella after the Wolfe tones concert the week before last that begged me to bring him home offering a Nifty, I told him that 70 would be closer and he gave me a Ton upfront in cash, got the same fella again last Sat night and himself and his mate threw up a Nifty each.
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Between midnight and 4am I doubt they will care very much .....
They will in the country towns, the farmers wont like it at all.
I find the West Cork farmers allright, I had a fella after the Wolfe tones concert the week before last that begged me to bring him home offering a Nifty, I told him that 70 would be closer and he gave me a Ton upfront in cash, got the same fella again last Sat night and himself and his mate threw up a Nifty each.
Are other people's wages increasing as well?
Most people are afraid to ask their employer for an increase in wages in my experience and are on the same wages for years.
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If they make the buses free to use it will be less work available
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Dunno. Free buses could mean more work? At the moment, you have a chance of getting a seat, I guess, but imagine getting on a bus in winter jammed with people coughing and sneezing. Or during the summer with all those smelly feckers. TAXI!
Also, I think the AA used to say that the buses can only take about 40% of commuters so everyone ditching their cars is a no-go.
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It won't ever be free so don't worry.
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On reflection, (Apart from the moaney auld Khouts and those that have already served their time by night), I reckon a decent amount of day drivers will work the nua 'Weekend Tariff 3, Midnight to 4am shift".
The pay gap from 1.32 per km on the day rate up to 2.20 per km on the 'Weekend rate' will defo incentivize more than a few day time taxi drivers to work the Weekend nights.
Which just might be a bad thing fer us current night drivers, on one hand we get a big fare increase, but on the other hand we now have to share it with all the nua Night drivers.
A brilliant ploy by the NTA, the words 'Taxi shortages on weekend nights" will never be heard in the press again, and the moaning (if any) of the exhoribant taxi fare home will be forgotten within weeks.
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On reflection, (Apart from the moaney auld Khouts and those that have already served their time by night), I reckon a decent amount of day drivers will work the nua 'Weekend Tariff 3, Midnight to 4am shift".
The pay gap from 1.32 per km on the day rate up to 2.20 per km on the 'Weekend rate' will defo incentivize more than a few day time taxi drivers to work the Weekend nights.
Which just might be a bad thing fer us current night drivers, on one hand we get a big fare increase, but on the other hand we now have to share it with all the nua Night drivers.
A brilliant ploy by the NTA, the words 'Taxi shortages on weekend nights" will never be heard in the press again, and the moaning (if any) of the exhoribant taxi fare home will be forgotten within weeks.
I could definitely be tempted by that, can't wait. Rate 1 is minimum wage.
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Couldn’t give a Fook if it was 5 bucks a km.
I won’t be doing nights and dealing with pissheads
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Same Jack. I'd want to be pretty desperate to work nights again.