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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Rat Catcher on November 22, 2024, 02:29:13 pm
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Having got my meter programmed on Wednesday and made an appointment for sealing I got this by SMS from Mechanic 24 this morning:
Hi Stephen,
We have noticed that you have recently had your Hale MCT-05 taxi meter updated with the new national Taxi Tariff that is due to become effective from December 1st.
Your specific Model of Taxi meter maybe too old to take the new Tariff as the internal calendar on some of the earliest model Hale MCT-05 will expire on December 31st this year.
IF your meter is the specific older model then, YOU MUST REPLACE YOUR TAXI METER!
The oldest version of MCT-05 Taxi meter will not operate correctly After December.
Do Not get your current Hale taxi meter resealed until you have ascertained exactly which model you have as the older model is effectively redundant.
For any existing customer with a redundant Hale MCT-05, We will offer you a New replacement Mirror Taxi meter and printer for €400 including installation and 2 Years warranty.
Alternatively we will refund your €150 if already paid.
Please contact us at your earliest convenience if this affects you.
The information below will help you confirm which model of Taximeter you have:
The simplest way to identify a MCT-05+ is to have a look at the taximeter's e1-certification mark, which clearly shows "MCT-05+" (see attached pic). This label was usually placed on the back of the taximeter. (The MCT-05+ will operate normally until 31st December 2025)
Another easy way to find out the model version is to check the program/firmware version - on MCT-05 it will be "EU10" or "EU11", ( The MCT-05 with this software is now effectively redundant).
The program version for MCT-05+ is "MEUD3".
Customers can do this themselves by following the steps below (see as well attached scheme):
Press keys 2+3 in For Hire mode --> driver number is displayed -> press key 3 -> test mode is displayed -> press key 4 -> program version is displayed
In MCT-05 (discontinued for many years, no MID approval!) the automatic calendar and correspondingly the tariff will work until December 31st, 2024.
In MCT-05+ and SPT-01 (both taximeter models have been discontinued for quite some years and do not have MID approval!) the automatic calendar and correspondingly the tariff will work until December 31st, 2025.
SPT-02: the automatic calendar works until end of 2045, provided firmware version G10 PEUD76 is programmed. Attention: SPT-02 is not manufactured anymore. Devices already sold/installed will be supported with repairs and tariff updates until further notice.
MCT-06: the automatic calendar works until end of 2045, provided firmware version G10 MEUD77 2022.09.19 is programmed. This taximeter model is still being produced for the time being.
We can be contacted by the following:
Email: admin@mechanic24hr.ie
Whatsapp: +353838755500
Phone: +353862528956
Kind Regards,
Mechanic24hr.ie
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Could they not have checked that before they reprogrammed your meter? If memory serves, you've had awful luck with them. You should ring Joe Duffy or go somewhere else for your taxi needs!
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Could they not have checked that before they reprogrammed your meter? If memory serves, you've had awful luck with them. You should ring Joe Duffy or go somewhere else for your taxi needs!
I hated going in there,I find Dave in Robinsons great to deal with and they're actually pleasant to deal with in person and on the phone.
I have a meter update appointment next week.
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Could they not have checked that before they reprogrammed your meter? If memory serves, you've had awful luck with them. You should ring Joe Duffy or go somewhere else for your taxi needs!
All HALE the ALE. 8)
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I rang my local meter reprogrammer last Friday and he told me that the Hale Microtax prior to 2005 was now obsolete.
He said that as my Hale Microtax serial number, which is shown on the front of the meter, shows '07' as the last 2 digits means that it was manafactured in 2007 and is good to go, ..... but I'm guessing good to go fer just another 2 years ??
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I rang my local meter reprogrammer last Friday and he told me that the Hale Microtax prior to 2005 was now obsolete.
He said that as my Hale Microtax serial number, which is shown on the front of the meter, shows '07' as the last 2 digits means that it was manafactured in 2007 and is good to go, ..... but I'm guessing good to go fer just another 2 years ??
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Look behind the meter, MCT 05 you’ll have to buy a new meter, MCT 05+ you’ve another year until
Your goosed
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.... Look behind the meter, MCT 05 you’ll have to buy a new meter, MCT 05+ you’ve another year until
Your goosed
Thanks fer that Panel, I just looked behind my Hale meter and it states MCT 05+.
..... The simplest way to identify a MCT-05+ is to have a look at the taximeter's e1-certification mark, which clearly shows "MCT-05+" . This label was usually placed on the back of the taximeter. (The MCT-05+ will operate normally until 31st December 2025)
No point in me spending €240 fer the change-over if'n the meter only lasts a year.
I owe ya a Pint if'n I ever see you Panel ! Thanks :2cheers
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.... Look behind the meter, MCT 05 you’ll have to buy a new meter, MCT 05+ you’ve another year until
Your goosed
Thanks fer that Panel, I just looked behind my Hale meter and it states MCT 05+.
..... The simplest way to identify a MCT-05+ is to have a look at the taximeter's e1-certification mark, which clearly shows "MCT-05+" . This label was usually placed on the back of the taximeter. (The MCT-05+ will operate normally until 31st December 2025)
No point in me spending €240 fer the change-over if'n the meter only lasts a year.
I owe ya a Pint if'n I ever see you Panel ! Thanks :2cheers
No hassles Ken, the MCT 05+ meters will only last until 31st of December 2025, so I’m gonna upgrade my blue Peter now as I’ll only get a year out of my meter and will have to install one regardless and it will save the cost of a second meter seal in the space of 12 months
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.... Look behind the meter, MCT 05 you’ll have to buy a new meter, MCT 05+ you’ve another year until
Your goosed
Thanks fer that Panel, I just looked behind my Hale meter and it states MCT 05+.
..... The simplest way to identify a MCT-05+ is to have a look at the taximeter's e1-certification mark, which clearly shows "MCT-05+" . This label was usually placed on the back of the taximeter. (The MCT-05+ will operate normally until 31st December 2025)
No point in me spending €240 fer the change-over if'n the meter only lasts a year.
I owe ya a Pint if'n I ever see you Panel ! Thanks :2cheers
No hassles Ken, the MCT 05+ meters will only last until 31st of December 2025, so I’m gonna upgrade my blue Peter now as I’ll only get a year out of my meter and will have to install one regardless and it will save the cost of a second meter seal in the space of 12 months
My thoughts exactly, I'll be ringing my meter installer guy today and see what he has to say.
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Just off the phone to mechanic 24, €400 for the trade in albrean meter and €150 for the update. Cunts.
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Just off the phone to mechanic 24, €400 for the trade in albrean meter and €150 for the update. Cunts.
You did better than me Panel, I'm booked in tomorrow fer a Fookin new mirror meter with the new program already installed, it was the only one he had already pre-programmed, €620 all in. Kounts !!
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How long do meters last anyway. Mine is nearly 20 years old Aquila T2. All it needs is a button refresh there worn down to the butt I've had to press them with a biro lately.
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This is me second time around getting a new meter as the current meter can’t hold a calendar date, me kinzle Argo meter was discontinued in 2018 got a second hand hale for €100, the said hale meter is now obsolete too.
I want a dashboard meter, the mirror meters are for council estate drug dealers.
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I got my first Hale meter + roofie thrown in with the 2nd hand Taxi licence in 2010.
Replaced the meter about 4 years ago to a similar model fer about a Deuce as the numbers were fading on the old one.
I too would prefer a dash meter, but the only one my fella has in stock and ready to go is a Fookin Mirror Pox job.
Maybe I will Take to it, but I Fookin doubt it ! ::fds
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A lot of the newer cars have nowhere easy to place a regular meter.The mirrors meters are a lot cheaper than they used to be.
I've been through three meters in 15 years.The first Primus one came with my plate but had only a couple of installers.When I bought the Prius there wasn't any decent place to put the old meter so I jumped to the Tetas mirror which after a good few years started to lose the digits on the LCD panel so I just upgraded to the semitron for a few hundred extra when I changed the car.
I like changing the meter often as I have no idea whether they're keeping records of work going back years.Last thing I need is to be hung out to dry by my own meter on money already spent.
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I like having the mirror as the passengers can see it easier.When I had the Primus near the gear stick you'd have people looking in over your shoulder to see the meter wasn't being tempered with.
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How long do meters last anyway. Mine is nearly 20 years old Aquila T2. All it needs is a button refresh there worn down to the butt I've had to press them with a biro lately.
I don't know fer sure but my Hale microtax 05+ has a serial number ending in '07' which means it was manufactued in 2007, and the end date fer my Hale meter is Dec 31st 2025.
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I like having the mirror as the passengers can see it easier.When I had the Primus near the gear stick you'd have people looking in over your shoulder to see the meter wasn't being tempered with.
I Fookin hate Change !
But with that said I was forced to buy a new set of glasses recently as it took seemingly 2 weeks to Fookin replace the lens in my old glasses, so I bought a new cheap set of frames and had them put in the new prescription lens on the new glasses, when that was done I took the new glasses from them and gave them my old glasses to put new lens in, with the thought that the new glasses would be shelved or go in the bin when my old glasses were ready. I wasn't very pleasant to the optician staff dealing with me !
To my eternal shame, I loved the new glasses and shelved/binned my old glasses !
But I still Fookin hate Change !! ::fds
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Dunno Ken the mirror meters are too flash for a 2012 poojo.
Ifn I bought one it would nearly be the price of the car at this stage.
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Dunno Ken the mirror meters are too flash for a 2012 poojo.
Ifn I bought one it would nearly be the price of the car at this stage.
I would agree, and even Add that I don't like the Pox mirror meters.
But as time is short fer reprograming/Fare update Dec 1st/and Reseal,
I went with the Pox €620 Programmed nua Mirror meter installation tomorrow.
On a Sad but Bright note, I can claim 20% of it back in Tax credits.
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did I not send you down a meter Ken a few years ago .It might do the job until you change to a new motor ?
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Dunno Ken the mirror meters are too flash for a 2012 poojo.
Ifn I bought one it would nearly be the price of the car at this stage.
I would agree, and even Add that I don't like the Pox mirror meters.
But as time is short fer reprograming/Fare update Dec 1st/and Reseal,
I went with the Pox €620 Programmed nua Mirror meter installation tomorrow.
On a Sad but Bright note, I can claim 20% of it back in Tax credits.
What do you mean you can claim 20% back in tax credits?....on a €620 mirror nua?
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Dunno Ken the mirror meters are too flash for a 2012 poojo.
Ifn I bought one it would nearly be the price of the car at this stage.
I would agree, and even Add that I don't like the Pox mirror meters.
But as time is short fer reprograming/Fare update Dec 1st/and Reseal,
I went with the Pox €620 Programmed nua Mirror meter installation tomorrow.
On a Sad but Bright note, I can claim 20% of it back in Tax credits.
What do you mean you can claim 20% back in tax credits?....on a €620 mirror nua?
Even though he's making millions, he's only taxed at 20% ?
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I like changing the meter often as I have no idea whether they're keeping records of work going back years.Last thing I need is to be hung out to dry by my own meter on money already spent.
If you're thinking of the taxman, I think he can only go back 7 years afaik? Open to correction though. I've over 15 yrs of tax receipts/submissions hanging around the house and have often thought of dumping the first half of them?
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Yes Watty I've only heard rumors of Revenue meter reading but I dunno if they actually do or even have the ability or desire to do so.Having an old meter is like having a witness to a crime hanging around.I'm sure they can be wiped but ya never know.
TBH I'd be more concerned about inaccurate returns rather than underdeclaring.All my fault but it lingers in the back of yer mind.
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Based on these replies on other makes of meters the Aquila T2 seems a good reliable meter. I'll probably renew the buttons on it.
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Based on these replies on other makes of meters the Aquila T2 seems a good reliable meter. I'll probably renew the buttons on it.
Aquila meters are very reliable:
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/taxi-driver-who-scammed-passengers-21273020 (https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/taxi-driver-who-scammed-passengers-21273020) 8)
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Yes Watty I've only heard rumors of Revenue meter reading but I dunno if they actually do or even have the ability or desire to do so.Having an old meter is like having a witness to a crime hanging around.I'm sure they can be wiped but ya never know.
TBH I'd be more concerned about inaccurate returns rather than underdeclaring.All my fault but it lingers in the back of yer mind.
Usually they go on mileage on the NCT reports
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Even better Panel.They're gonna be very disappointed when they see my mileage.
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What's the story on meter verification?
The cuz got an email with mumbo jumbo guff on it saying it won't be legal...yada, yada, yada.
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Even better Panel.They're gonna be very disappointed when they see my mileage.
Interesting. Imagine the drivers who commute to Dublin from say, Wexford! And believe me, they do. You can't get a cab down there for love or money.
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Even better Panel.They're gonna be very disappointed when they see my mileage.
Just re on this when you go for your LRA the applus worker retains the receipt printout, upon which you’ll a find a receipt number that’s in sequence every time you print a receipt.
Would’nt be outside the realms of possibility’s for them to compare it against the last years printout to see how many jobs you’ve done in the space of a year.
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Even better Panel.They're gonna be very disappointed when they see my mileage.
Just re on this when you go for your LRA the applus worker retains the receipt printout, upon which you’ll a find a receipt number that’s in sequence every time you print a receipt.
Would’nt be outside the realms of possibility’s for them to compare it against the last years printout to see how many jobs you’ve done in the space of a year.
They know we're peasants. The mileage is near enough, plus approximately 20% for personal /leisure use IIRC. RC might know better.
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With all the info from apps to Revenue, t/o and number of jobs for so many drivers, it's easy for them to work out the average price per job. if you don't want to be honest in your taxes, you don't want to use apps too much.
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With all the info from apps to Revenue, t/o and number of jobs for so many drivers, it's easy for them to work out the average price per job. if you don't want to be honest in your taxes, you don't want to use apps too much.
Or work the shopping centre ranks for cash.
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Just off the phone to mechanic 24, €400 for the trade in albrean meter and €150 for the update. Cunts.
Yeah the 4 ton is on top of the €150. Asked if he had a MCT06 (priced at €250 on his website https://www.psv.ie/taxi-meter-installers/ (https://www.psv.ie/taxi-meter-installers/) ) and was told he has and it's the same price - i.e. €550, that's 3 ton dearer than advertised - as the mirror meter and printer. The mirror one is probably the cheapest on the market but - depending on grants, etc - my next car could be another brand new car that I really wouldn't want to let them at so I'll just get my ton and a half back for the time being and shop around, I guess.
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Even better Panel.They're gonna be very disappointed when they see my mileage.
Just re on this when you go for your LRA the applus worker retains the receipt printout, upon which you’ll a find a receipt number that’s in sequence every time you print a receipt.
Would’nt be outside the realms of possibility’s for them to compare it against the last years printout to see how many jobs you’ve done in the space of a year.
On my soon to be defunct Hale MCT5 the receipt number only increments when it prints a receipt i.e. when I have the printer switched on so I'd be surprised if mine went up by many!
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Just off the phone to mechanic 24, €400 for the trade in albrean meter and €150 for the update. Cunts.
Yeah the 4 ton is on top of the €150. Asked if he had a MCT06 (priced at €250 on his website https://www.psv.ie/taxi-meter-installers/ (https://www.psv.ie/taxi-meter-installers/) ) and was told he has and it's the same price - i.e. €550, that's 3 ton dearer than advertised - as the mirror meter and printer. The mirror one is probably the cheapest on the market but - depending on grants, etc - my next car could be another brand new car that I really wouldn't want to let them at so I'll just get my ton and a half back for the time being and shop around, I guess.
I paid €620 for the Turkish Alberen, including the meter and installation. I also got three receipt rolls. There was no trade-in on the HALE Microtax has he said he'd an abundance of of old ones.
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So €550 represents a €70 discount.
Did they cause much damage installing yours?
Have you found any way of disabling the printer?
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So €550 represents a €70 discount.
Did they cause much damage installing yours?
Have you found any way of disabling the printer?
My roof sign was damaged, but they did a good repair job, saving approximately €150 on a new one.
I see the retail price has come down.
The mirror meter is a very tight fit, rendering its mobility to virtually zilch.
Regarding the printer, I wouldn't even know where to start.
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..... I paid €620 for the Turkish Alberen, including the meter and installation. I also got three receipt rolls. There was no trade-in on the HALE Microtax has he said he'd an abundance of of old ones.
I did very slightly better than you today SB, I was quoted €620 yesterday fer me nua Alberan installation today (with new fare pre-programmed), but I pulled out €600 in cash and he grabbed it, + 10 complimentary Alberan receipt rolls.
No trade in on the old Hale 5+ or John m's old Taxitronic.
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did I not send you down a meter Ken a few years ago .It might do the job until you change to a new motor ?
I brought it with me today John m and he said it was useless, he wouldn't even take it off me fer Free when I offered it to him fer spares parts.
But Thanks fer it anyway. ::cheers
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Having got my meter programmed on Wednesday and made an appointment for sealing I got this by SMS from Mechanic 24 this morning: .....
......The simplest way to identify a MCT-05+ is to have a look at the taximeter's e1-certification mark, which clearly shows "MCT-05+" (see attached pic). This label was usually placed on the back of the taximeter. (The MCT-05+ will operate normally until 31st December 2025) ......
Kind Regards,
Mechanic24hr.ie
Thanks fer putting this up Stephen, between yourself and Panel ye saved me some dosh and a lot more appointsments fer new meter + another reseal in a years time + I now don't need to que fer reprogramming the old Hale this Thursday.
:2cheers
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......On a Sad but Bright note, I can claim 20% of it back in Tax credits.
What do you mean you can claim 20% back in tax credits?....on a €620 mirror nua?
Yes. It's an expense and it takes €620 of your total earnings meaning that you have €620 less to pay tax @ 20% on.
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..... Even though he's making millions, he's only taxed at 20% ?
I dunno where you got that idea Harry ?
I broke over the weekly 30 hour barrier last Jazz weekend fer just about the 3rd time this year.
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I like having the mirror as the passengers can see it easier.When I had the Primus near the gear stick you'd have people looking in over your shoulder to see the meter wasn't being tempered with.
I Fookin hate Change !
Only had the mirror meter a day now, but it's growing on me...... S L O W L Y !!
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.... I paid €620 for the Turkish Alberen, including the meter and installation. .......
......Have you found any way of disabling the printer?
With my nua Alberan mirror meter and Alberan printer, you just lift the printer cover slightly and it does not print a receipt.
It takes the same size receipt roll as the Hale microtax 5+, Thankfully as I still have a full 50 box.
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..... Yeah the 4 ton is on top of the €150. Asked if he had a MCT06 (priced at €250 on his website https://www.psv.ie/taxi-meter-installers/ (https://www.psv.ie/taxi-meter-installers/) ) and was told he has and it's the same price - i.e. €550, that's 3 ton dearer than advertised - as the mirror meter and printer. The mirror one is probably the cheapest on the market but - depending on grants, etc - my next car could be another brand new car that I really wouldn't want to let them at so I'll just get my ton and a half back for the time being and shop around, I guess.
Just a thought Stephen, dunno if'n it will work or not.
Your current Hale MCT05 will work up till 31st Dec 2024.
The fare increase is on 1st December 2024 and the price I paid today was fer the nua meter and the nua fare increase.
BUT if'n you were to buy a new meter after the fare increase on 1st December then it would be rich fer an installer to charge you the €150 fer the now current meter program ?? As all your buying after Dec 1st is the meter with the current program ??
I know you have your reseal date fer 5th Dec but that can easily be rescheduled up to the 2nd or 3rd of Dec.
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Chances are the installer has the meters in stock and on the shelf. So if RC bought a meter in that 30 day window in Dec, he'd be buying off the shelf instead of new from the factory. And the installer has to buy the access code for each meter off the manufacturer AFAIK. So probably no saving unless the installer did him a favour? My guess?
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.... I paid €620 for the Turkish Alberen, including the meter and installation. .......
......Have you found any way of disabling the printer?
With my nua Alberan mirror meter and Alberan printer, you just lift the printer cover slightly and it does not print a receipt.
It takes the same size receipt roll as the Hale microtax 5+, Thankfully as I still have a full 50 box.
A 50 box of rolls would do me for approximately 50 years or until I'm 104 years old Ken. I can't see you ever having to buy rolls again.
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.... I paid €620 for the Turkish Alberen, including the meter and installation. .......
......Have you found any way of disabling the printer?
With my nua Alberan mirror meter and Alberan printer, you just lift the printer cover slightly and it does not print a receipt.
It takes the same size receipt roll as the Hale microtax 5+, Thankfully as I still have a full 50 box.
A 50 box of rolls would do me for approximately 50 years or until I'm 104 years old Ken. I can't see you ever having to buy rolls again.
That will probably be the case fer me too even though I do print a receipt fer every customer whom pays using the Sumup terminal.
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Why would you do that Ken?
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Why would you do that Ken?
Peace of mind fer the customer, the receipt used to come out anyway on my old Hale and might aswell offer it as throw it away. That all might change with me meter nua.
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I ask them if they want one. When they don't, which is nearly always I just drive off with my receipt roll intact.
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I ask them if they want one. When they don't, which is nearly always I just drive off with my receipt roll intact.
That would also be my nua plan of action, a simple tap on the receipt roll cover to print is by far the easiest soloution.
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I've been telling you this for years but alas you wouldn't listen.
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I've been telling you this for years but alas you wouldn't listen.
I know, but I was hardly going to change my meter + do reseal just to stop it printing receipts.
Anyways I'm sorted now, nua meter with nua fare, just Reseal to go on 5th Dec and All Done.
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I've been telling you this for years but alas you wouldn't listen.
I know, but I was hardly going to change my meter + do reseal just to stop it printing receipts.
Anyways I'm sorted now, nua meter with nua fare, just Reseal to go on 5th Dec and All Done.
Including the meter seal Ken how much has this update cost you, I’m sure you’ve already worked out how long it will take to wash its face.
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I've been telling you this for years but alas you wouldn't listen.
I know, but I was hardly going to change my meter + do reseal just to stop it printing receipts.
Anyways I'm sorted now, nua meter with nua fare, just Reseal to go on 5th Dec and All Done.
Including the meter seal Ken how much has this update cost you, I’m sure you’ve already worked out how long it will take to wash its face.
€600 fer the Alberen meter + printer + nua fare, and €90 fer the reseal, which should have been €240 fer a regular driver with a proper working meter rather than the Pox Hale.
I have no idea how long it will take to "Wash its face", as what the all new "Golden 8" brings is anyones guess.
I did make a huge blunder yesterday by walking approx 250 meters from the installers yard to the bus stop, I haven't been on a bus in over 15 years, got home, bus stop outside my apartment, waited fer an hour +, then got another bus back and walked another 250 meters to the installers yard. I'm defo not the better today fer those walks yesterday.
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Theoretically it'd take me far longer than I'd care to work. However, you can't really blame the meter going obsolete on the fare increase as, in my case, that woulda happened on NYE this year regardless. I wouldn't mind but the fucking thing is barely 25 years old, stuff just isn't built to last anymore.
I'm kinda leaning towards sticking with Mechanic 24 now. The plusses being price, Ken's ability to disable the printer on the same model and there never being much of a queue for updates. I guess I could always visit Korky and Ken for a night on the piss when I eventually change vehicle and get Ken's man to do the changeover... or just buy another new meter from elsewhere, there doesn't seem to be a whole of of difference pricewise between moving an old meter and installing a new one.
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.... I'm kinda leaning towards sticking with Mechanic 24 now. The plusses being price, Ken's ability to disable the printer on the same model and there never being much of a queue for updates. I guess I could always visit Korky and Ken for a night on the piss when I eventually change vehicle and get Ken's man to do the changeover... or just buy another new meter from elsewhere, there doesn't seem to be a whole of of difference pricewise between moving an old meter and installing a new one.
If you wish the give Eugene Kelly (Cork Radio cabs) a ring fer a price quote, his number is 085 103 8208.
PS; Be Warned, Grumpy Sarcastic Fook.
PPS; You + entourage be always more than welcome in Cork. lol
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I ask them if they want one. When they don't, which is nearly always I just drive off with my receipt roll intact.
I'm just off 3 decent night shifts, not a single soul asked fer a receipt. But I did print off 2, one fer a very quiet young lass whom paid her street fare by card, and another fer some drunken idiot who will have no recollection of how he paid or got home, also a street card fare.
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.... Including the meter seal Ken how much has this update cost you, I’m sure you’ve already worked out how long it will take to wash its face.
On thinking about this Panel and after seeing last nights 'Golden Eight' figures I gave it some thought.
To confirm I'm a night driver, 99% tariff 2. Always worked the nua 'Golden Eight' hours anyway.
Also FN Ambassador/Gold status/almost always Priority.
I reckon it will 'wash it's face' all by itself to include nua meter + fare upgrade + reseal before Santa arrives in 2024.
To hazard a wild guess fer a Day driver who does not work the sabbath and also requires a nua meter then it might take till at least the summer equinox to 'wash it's face', it might even be till Santa calls again in 2025.
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Rescheduled the meter seal appointment for 22nd Jan.
Do you have to cancel and book again when you get a new TTI form i.e. is the appointment specific to the TTI form?
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Rescheduled the meter seal appointment for 22nd Jan.
Do you have to cancel and book again when you get a new TTI form i.e. is the appointment specific to the TTI form?
I dunno that, I'll be ringing them myself tomorrow (Mon) to make sure they have my nua TTI form fer my reseal appointment next Thursday, which was booked with my old TTI form last October.
I expect no worries, but if any I can reschedule fer Free on Monday.
I'll let you know how I get on tomorrow.
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Anyone know if they are open to facilitating LRA, and meter verification on the same day? This year I only have a window of Jan 15-Jan 29 for my LRA as I go away on the 3oth. Rang a while back, and he said that here should be no problem of getting an LRA appointment between those dates, butdon't know about combining the 2 inspections.verifications.
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21 Jan was the earliest date for meter sealing in Northpoint when I rescheduled mine earlier today.
There never seems to be much of a delay for the LRA. I still have to book mine but it'll be done before my new meter sealing appointment.
Maybe check Greenhills for meter sealing availability and if you find a suitable appointment book that online and then ring the LRA booking line and see what they can do?
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21 Jan was the earliest date for meter sealing in Northpoint when I rescheduled mine earlier today.
There never seems to be much of a delay for the LRA. I still have to book mine but it'll be done before my new meter sealing appointment.
Maybe check Greenhills for meter sealing availability and if you find a suitable appointment book that online and then ring the LRA booking line and see what they can do?
TVM
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Anyone know if they are open to facilitating LRA, and meter verification on the same day? This year I only have a window of Jan 15-Jan 29 for my LRA as I go away on the 3oth. Rang a while back, and he said that here should be no problem of getting an LRA appointment between those dates, butdon't know about combining the 2 inspections.verifications.
I cant remember which way around but I did book reseal and suitability on the same day a few years back, one was done online and the other over the phone, but in Cork they are both done in the same premises, but I defo did do it and the 2 tests were done one after the other, by the same inspector just a few minutes apart.
Sorry to hear that you have to 'Go away' Harry, what did you get Sent Down fer ? lol
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Anyone know if they are open to facilitating LRA, and meter verification on the same day? This year I only have a window of Jan 15-Jan 29 for my LRA as I go away on the 3oth. Rang a while back, and he said that here should be no problem of getting an LRA appointment between those dates, butdon't know about combining the 2 inspections.verifications.
I cant remember which way around but I did book reseal and suitability on the same day a few years back, one was done online and the other over the phone, but in Cork they are both done in the same premises, but I defo did do it and the 2 tests were done one after the other, by the same inspector just a few minutes apart.
Sorry to hear that you have to 'Go away' Harry, what did you get Sent Down fer ? lol
Just taking a few months holidays Ken, at 71 it's time to start thinking about how to spend whatever time is left to one, be it a day, or 20 years.
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Good fer you Harry, Enjoy it, lol
I was looking back over your query and it was covered on here before by myself.
Click on and Read over this below, there is a birra rubbish in the old topic but it covers 'I Think' the question you asked.
http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=9998.0 (http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=9998.0)
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Good fer you Harry, Enjoy it, lol
I was looking back over your query and it was covered on here before by myself.
Click on and Read over this below, there is a birra rubbish in the old topic but it covers 'I Think' the question you asked.
[url]http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=9998.0[/url] ([url]http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=9998.0[/url])
Thnaks Ken, I had a look at that.
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Rescheduled the meter seal appointment for 22nd Jan.
Do you have to cancel and book again when you get a new TTI form i.e. is the appointment specific to the TTI form?
Did ya buy a new meter or get your microtax 05 updated with the new meter?
I want to hear your rationale for updating and sealing a meter that you’ll only get another 12 months out of.
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Interesting question and one that I did ponder to some extent.
As far as my MCT5 is concerned another year isn't an option as it's the older one that expires at the end of this year.
I did consider scrounging a MCT5+ off someone (probably Ken!) and getting a year out of it, the rationale being that my car is only good until early 2026 but I decided against 'cos that would ultimately force me to change the car before the end of 2025.
If I coulda got a MCT6 at the advertised price of €250 I woulda done that but Mechanic24 looking for an additional €300 is, frankly, taking the piss.
Anyway, I haven't done anything yet... bar pushing the sealing appointment back. I've got till the end of the year to get a meter sorted!
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..... I want to hear your rationale for updating and sealing a meter that you’ll only get another 12 months out of.
Once I heard the news that my Hale microtax 05+ was Gone in a year, I never hesitatated in Fooking it out.
Fer me, No point in me waisting €150 on the meter update, €90 on the Reseal + 2 appointments.
In a years time I would need a new upgraded meter + a €90 Reseal and 2 more appointments.
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Interesting question and one that I did ponder to some extent.
As far as my MCT5 is concerned another year isn't an option as it's the older one that expires at the end of this year.
I did consider scrounging a MCT5+ off someone (probably Ken!) and getting a year out of it, the rationale being that my car is only good until early 2026 but I decided against 'cos that would ultimately force me to change the car before the end of 2025.
If I coulda got a MCT6 at the advertised price of €250 I woulda done that but Mechanic24 looking for an additional €300 is, frankly, taking the piss.
Anyway, I haven't done anything yet... bar pushing the sealing appointment back. I've got till the end of the year to get a meter sorted!
My heep will have to be replaced December 2027 so I just need a bare standard meter that I can get 3 years out of.
I actually have a spare MCT05+ meter here if you want it, it’s untested mind yours for €foc
I haven’t done anything about getting a new meter yet myself.
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Thanks for the offer but I reckon I'll go for the mirror option to avoid pressure to change the car any earlier than absolutely necessary. I might have an option of a little used Alberen mirror meter in the pipeline which I guess would save a few notes depending on the installation fee.
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Therein lies the catch 22, I bought a Semitron mirror meter and printer off adverts the other day for €80, bargain.
Until I did me sums
€80 for a new second hand meter & printer
€250 fitout fee
€150 for the updated fare
€480 in total for a second hand meter that might be wanked.
Or €550 for a new meter and printer with a 2 year warranty that cost an additional €70 over a second hand one.
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Thanks for the offer but I reckon I'll go for the mirror option to avoid pressure to change the car any earlier than absolutely necessary. I might have an option of a little used Alberen mirror meter in the pipeline which I guess would save a few notes depending on the installation fee.
Ask tony, he's not driving a cab anymore. it would be a shame to see the meter going a-begging.
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If I were you I'd install it myself and see what they want to programme it, Panel. You might need to find an installation manual online but the user manual for the Alberen shows the wiring diagram for that model - there's probably not a lot of difference between that and the Semitron. Once you figure out how to attach the yoke to the mirror there's not a lot to the rest of it. You've got 4 wires*: +, -, Hunger and pulse which are all pretty self explanatory. If you have a 12v power supply (e.g. car battery charger) bench test it first i.e. connect the + and - (provided you can identify them!). You can then find the hunger with a meter - it reverses polarity i.e. measures +12v in For Hire mode and -12V in hired mode. The wire that's left over is the pulse wire. Then you just need to find the pulse wire going to your current meter (shouldn't be too difficult) and connect it all up (hunger goes to roof sign +). If you get to there and it's working you'll probably find the K factor is wrong i.e. it's not measuring distance correctly. AFAIK you can't adjust the K factor without programming equipment so you'd need the installer to fix that while programming the new rate. At the end of the day what have you got to lose if it doesn't work?
* plus a seperate printer cable which (on the Alberen) is plug and play.
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If I were you I'd install it myself and see what they want to programme it, Panel. You might need to find an installation manual online but the user manual for the Alberen shows the wiring diagram for that model - there's probably not a lot of difference between that and the Semitron. Once you figure out how to attach the yoke to the mirror there's not a lot to the rest of it. You've got 4 wires*: +, -, Hunger and pulse which are all pretty self explanatory. If you have a 12v power supply (e.g. car battery charger) bench test it first i.e. connect the + and - (provided you can identify them!). You can then find the hunger with a meter - it reverses polarity i.e. measures +12v in For Hire mode and -12V in hired mode. The wire that's left over is the pulse wire. Then you just need to find the pulse wire going to your current meter (shouldn't be too difficult) and connect it all up (hunger goes to roof sign +). If you get to there and it's working you'll probably find the K factor is wrong i.e. it's not measuring distance correctly. AFAIK you can't adjust the K factor without programming equipment so you'd need the installer to fix that while programming the new rate. At the end of the day what have you got to lose if it doesn't work?
* plus a seperate printer cable which (on the Alberen) is plug and play.
Very true nothing to loose, but I’d imagine the installer would get arsey when he realises that I installed it myself (they’d have to change the plate and reg number on the meter too)
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Rescheduled the meter seal appointment for 22nd Jan.
Do you have to cancel and book again when you get a new TTI form i.e. is the appointment specific to the TTI form?
I dunno that, I'll be ringing them myself tomorrow (Mon) to make sure they have my nua TTI form fer my reseal appointment next Thursday, which was booked with my old TTI form last October.
I expect no worries, but if any I can reschedule fer Free on Monday.
I'll let you know how I get on tomorrow.
@ Stephen, I didn't garner a whole lot of imfo on this today.
My meter installer told me last week that he had emailed both me and the reseal crowd the nua TTI form, but I never got that email.
Rang him again this morning he assured me that he had sent the email, so I rang the reseal crowd to confirm that they had the new TTI form fer my appointment next Thursday, but while they had my appointment they could not confirm if they had the new TTI form or not ??
I'll let ya know how I get on next Thursday.
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True enough, Panel. They're obviously going to charge something to set the K factor and (what I didn't think of!) the plate/reg number on the printer. Neither are particularly time-consuming but they seem to charge c.€1,800/hour for programming hence there still mightn't be a lot of difference in total cost... but at least you'd know it's installed properly!
I got the (now useless) TTI form for the Hale by email from NSAI, Ken. If you haven't got one I guess it's possible that the installer entered your email address incorrectly on the form he submits to NSAI?
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.... I got the (now useless) TTI form for the Hale by email from NSAI, Ken. If you haven't got one I guess it's possible that the installer entered your email address incorrectly on the form he submits to NSAI?
I know but there is no way to confirm if'n NSAI got his email or not ??
So it's a 'Fingers crossed' job heading fer reseal on Thursday.
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I woulda thought they'd be able to tell you on the phone... seems crazy that they can't.
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I woulda thought they'd be able to tell you on the phone... seems crazy that they can't.
The lady at suitability confirmed yesterday that they had my updated TTI form.
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If I were you I'd install it myself and see what they want to programme it, Panel. You might need to find an installation manual online but the user manual for the Alberen shows the wiring diagram for that model - there's probably not a lot of difference between that and the Semitron. Once you figure out how to attach the yoke to the mirror there's not a lot to the rest of it. You've got 4 wires*: +, -, Hunger and pulse which are all pretty self explanatory. If you have a 12v power supply (e.g. car battery charger) bench test it first i.e. connect the + and - (provided you can identify them!). You can then find the hunger with a meter - it reverses polarity i.e. measures +12v in For Hire mode and -12V in hired mode. The wire that's left over is the pulse wire. Then you just need to find the pulse wire going to your current meter (shouldn't be too difficult) and connect it all up (hunger goes to roof sign +). If you get to there and it's working you'll probably find the K factor is wrong i.e. it's not measuring distance correctly. AFAIK you can't adjust the K factor without programming equipment so you'd need the installer to fix that while programming the new rate. At the end of the day what have you got to lose if it doesn't work?
* plus a seperate printer cable which (on the Alberen) is plug and play.
Very true nothing to loose, but I’d imagine the installer would get arsey when he realises that I installed it myself (they’d have to change the plate and reg number on the meter too)
Cartel?
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I as up above in Dublin on Tuesday so I dropped into Mechanic 24 at c.15:23 with no appointment... Left less than an hour later €550 (400 on top of the 150 I'd already paid for the useless reprogramming of the MCT5) lighter and a new Alberen mirror meter and printer. To be fair, they actually done a pretty good and neat job and the air vents fit back properly now that the dashboard meter is gone. It was a (descendant of a) Chinese immigrant who done the fitting... one oughtn't generalise but clearly the right men to fit the stuff they make, I guess. In any event he was an extremely pleasant man as was the Paddy who showed me how it works and took the money. In fact, a somewhat unexpected pleasant experience overall... but then why wouldn't it be with the rates they charge!
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Oh... I got the new TTI form by electronic mail from NSAI on Tuesday evening so M24 were obviously quite efficient with the paperwork too.
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I as up above in Dublin on Tuesday so I dropped into Mechanic 24 at c.15:23 with no appointment... Left less than an hour later €550 (400 on top of the 150 I'd already paid for the useless reprogramming of the MCT5) lighter and a new Alberen mirror meter and printer. To be fair, they actually done a pretty good and neat job and the air vents fit back properly now that the dashboard meter is gone. It was a (descendant of a) Chinese immigrant who done the fitting... one oughtn't generalise but clearly the right men to fit the stuff they make, I guess. In any event he was an extremely pleasant man as was the Paddy who showed me how it works and took the money. In fact, a somewhat unexpected pleasant experience overall... but then why wouldn't it be with the rates they charge!
Did they take the already paid €150 off the €550 ?
As in was the total cost to you €550 or €700 ?
PS. Practise lifting the cover on the printer, it's like riding a bike, simple when ya get used to it.
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Oh... I got the new TTI form by electronic mail from NSAI on Tuesday evening so M24 were obviously quite efficient with the paperwork too.
Welcome to the 'Golden Eight' era ! lol
Glad to see that nasty flu bug didn't finish ya off !
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€550 total. It was the cheapest option for a mirror meter and printer. Interestingly they wanted the same price for a dashboard Microtax 6 which wouldn't have required a new printer despite the same being priced @ €250 on their website so one would suspect they're phasing out Hale altogether.
The gentleman explained that I don't need my switch anymore and returned it uninstalled - but he wouldn't give me the old meter back, apparently you have to pay "full price" (whatever that is) if you want it. The new printer is quite a tight squeeze in the pocket where it's fitted and it rests on it's side when the pocket is closed so the roll tends to uninstall itself when the cover's left open in that position which I guess will make it a bit fiddly when a receipt is required but I worked on Wednesday evening - the quietest shift of the year to date for me - roll on January!) without printing any receipts so happy enough with that. If it becomes an issue with my OCD it looks easy enough to relocate the printer to the dashboard, probably on a bit of Velcro or some such, I guess.
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Welcome to the 'Golden Eight' era ! lol
Glad to see that nasty flu bug didn't finish ya off !
It took me a while to cop what the Golden 8 is, Ken. I actually thought it was an American football thing - you first mentioned it in reply to a post about an NFL (I think) game I was attending!
Anywaysanall, the Hale was programmed to the new rate so would have worked fine during the Golden 8 hours - until it committed suicide at 00:00 on New Year's Day - if I'd worked any of them. Alas I didn't... I did intend to last Saturday night but in a throwback to the good old days when night work and Irish social lives centered around public houses it went dead at about 22:00 so I ended up on a high stool before midnight. I'm away this weekend so maybe I'll try again next weekend... fuck knows I need the money... with all I'm handing out I'll struggle to show any kind of profit for December. Roll on January!
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€550 total. It was the cheapest option for a mirror meter and printer. Interestingly they wanted the same price for a dashboard Microtax 6 which wouldn't have required a new printer despite the same being priced @ €250 on their website so one would suspect they're phasing out Hale altogether.
The gentleman explained that I don't need my switch anymore and returned it uninstalled - but he wouldn't give me the old meter back, apparently you have to pay "full price" (whatever that is) if you want it. The new printer is quite a tight squeeze in the pocket where it's fitted and it rests on it's side when the pocket is closed so the roll tends to uninstall itself when the cover's left open in that position which I guess will make it a bit fiddly when a receipt is required but I worked on Wednesday evening - the quietest shift of the year to date for me - roll on January!) without printing any receipts so happy enough with that. If it becomes an issue with my OCD it looks easy enough to relocate the printer to the dashboard, probably on a bit of Velcro or some such, I guess.
I didn't get offered my old Hale meter back either, but I didn't ask fer it either, as I didn't want the almost useless meter.
My meter installer guy told me that the Alberen printer must sit on a flat surface or it may not work properly ??
Mine sits on the dashboard on top of some squiggy foam cut-out thing.
Almost 3 weeks in now and to be fair it hasen't moved a jot.
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In about Three weeks of night time work I have printed just 2 or 3 receipts from well over a hundred jobs.
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My printer is in the glove compartment, even though it's slanted it works fine.
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Mine too sb. It just gets chucked in there and works when I need it.
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So what was the story with printers now not needing to print a receipt apart from when requested..which I was asked to do earlier today..we're installers told to do so with the new programme....does anyone know?
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I was always able to not print one hal if I wanted. Even before the new program.
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So what was the story with printers now not needing to print a receipt apart from when requested..which I was asked to do earlier today..we're installers told to do so with the new programme....does anyone know?
I think we're legally obliged to print a receipt every single time but... some of the newer printers have a 'design flaw' :P that if you leave the lid slightly open, it doesn't print. If someone does need a paper receipt, just close the lid and press reprint. Most people get their receipt nowadays via the apps.
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So what was the story with printers now not needing to print a receipt apart from when requested..which I was asked to do earlier today..we're installers told to do so with the new programme....does anyone know?
I think we're legally obliged to print a receipt every single time but... some of the newer printers have a 'design flaw' :P that if you leave the lid slightly open, it doesn't print. If someone does need a paper receipt, just close the lid and press (the 'Vacant' button on an Alberen meter to) reprint. Most people get their receipt nowadays via the apps.
That's about it. Watty covered it very well.
The actual NTA rule is that you must print and offer a receipt on every fare.
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Are you supposed to lock them in the car until the fucking thing has printed?
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Are you supposed to lock them in the car until the fucking thing has printed?
Ask the NTA ..... Or maybe Tony ! rofl
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That wire looks terribly untidy, Ken. I wouldn't be able to live with that but I'm sure I'll be able to do a neater job if required. I might do a few hours this evening and see how I get on but I'll really need someone to request a receipt to test it in real word conditions, that could be years away!
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P.S. The foam mat looks tidy enough... certainly preferable to Velcro... and would obviously be easy to square up symmetrically.