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Title: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: watty on November 29, 2024, 10:13:28 pm
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10pm RTE exit poll

SF and FG almost level on 21.1% and 21%, with FF just behind on 19.5%

Sinn Féin and Fine Gael are almost level on 21.1% and 21%, with Fianna Fáil on 19.5%, according to the RTÉ, Irish Times, TG4, Trinity College Dublin Exit Poll was carried out by Ipsos B&A. The margin of error is 1.4%.

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https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1129/1483674-election-live-blog/

A new exit poll suggests that Fine Gael and Sinn Féin are virtually tied when it comes to first preference votes with Fianna Fáil slightly further back, making the result of General Election 2024 too close to call.

It indicates Green Party first preference support stands at 4%; Labour at 5%; the Social Democrats at 5.8%; People Before Profit-Solidarity at 3.1%; and Independents at 12.7%, Independent Ireland 2.2% with others on 1.9%.

"Re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic" springs to mind  ::fds  Can't imagine FF or FG is ruthless enough to ditch the other for SF coalition so only question is who'll be the sacrificial lamb making up the numbers.

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https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1129/1483674-election-live-blog/

RTÉ's Paul Cunningham says the Exit Poll suggests that Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael, if they were to form a coalition, would need two parties to go into government with them.

He added that the Exit Poll also suggests that there is no route to a left government without Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael.
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Shallow Hal on November 29, 2024, 11:27:39 pm
The Greens will be only too happy to go again...lots done...more to fuck up!!
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: John m on November 30, 2024, 06:19:22 am
Second Election Next year FF/FG /Ladour/Soc Dems plus a few Indies or Greens .Mick Healy Wray and Danno for Minister for Mayhem .Wont Last .Very low turnout when there was no option but to return either FF or FG as part of any new coalition .Could somebody Play their Joker .FF or FG just say if the Shinners get the most seats You go ahead and sort it out with FF and FG both playing for their identity by refusing to go back into power togeather again .
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: John m on November 30, 2024, 06:42:52 am
I see UK Parliament have voted in Favour of euthanasia .Irish Bill Introduced by Gino Kenny going through the Dail .So will we be like the 1960s with Irish people going to Britain for Abortions now thinking of Going to Britain for End of Life Care .The Only Issue that I considered when I voted .Did any other party have any issue that they championed .Housing .Hospitals Immigration seemed to be all the rest were pushing .Any wonder the turnout was so low .
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: mercenary for hire on November 30, 2024, 09:08:45 am
There isn't really that much difference between them all which is probably a good thing.No wonder so many people want to live here from other parts of the world.
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: John m on November 30, 2024, 10:13:07 am
There isn't really that much difference between them all which is probably a good thing.No wonder so many people want to live here from other parts of the world.

Look at how stable things are .Would you want SF in Government ?A lot of people who vote Independent know the people they vote for will have no impact ,they just want to reduce the power of the Big two .
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Cool Boola on November 30, 2024, 10:41:36 am
I see what you mean……
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: silverbullet on November 30, 2024, 11:17:15 am
There isn't really that much difference between them all which is probably a good thing.No wonder so many people want to live here from other parts of the world.

Look at how stable things are .Would you want SF in Government ?A lot of people who vote Independent know the people they vote for will have no impact ,they just want to reduce the power of the Big two .
that was Gerry's tactic. Eat into SF vote.
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Cool Boola on December 01, 2024, 11:57:09 am
Yeah!…but SF should have got rid of Mary Lou with her swinging door and reverse policies.Doherty should have got the reins and Mary could be sniped at.Ger Badams would not let her take the fall? :))
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 01, 2024, 12:04:28 pm
I see UK Parliament have voted in Favour of euthanasia .Irish Bill Introduced by Gino Kenny going through the Dail .So will we be like the 1960s with Irish people going to Britain for Abortions now thinking of Going to Britain for End of Life Care .The Only Issue that I considered when I voted .Did any other party have any issue that they championed .Housing .Hospitals Immigration seemed to be all the rest were pushing .Any wonder the turnout was so low .

Passed first reading. Still has to go to committee and pass amended reading and pass House of Lords to become law.
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Cool Boola on December 01, 2024, 12:07:26 pm
Always amendments and delays…sure we will be all dead.
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: silverbullet on December 01, 2024, 06:44:58 pm
Always amendments and delays…sure we will be all dead.
Very good...But the Youth in Asia will be alive.
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: John m on December 02, 2024, 08:16:45 am
Who will be in next government FF/Fg with a few indies ? more good jobs for the boys and a few roads for the indies .Or go with the Soc Dems give them a minister and a junior but wipe them out for next time .IF Mick has his choice I think go with Labour or Soc Dems make sure there is no united left next election .
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: MK on December 02, 2024, 08:20:10 am
Shocking Donnely gone, i thought he held the Angola minefield steady over the four years, including the covid crisis. Couldn’t solve the waiting list much


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Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: MK on December 02, 2024, 08:36:40 am
Dublin central always held a labour seat with Costello for many years, so sherlock should keep it for a while


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Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: John m on December 02, 2024, 08:39:28 am
Shocking Donnely gone, i thought he held the Angola minefield steady over the four years, including the covid crisis. Couldn’t solve the waiting list much


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Big Strike on the Way from HSE .If Soc Dems go in with them they will get Health the Sick Ministry .Donnolly was hated by every other TD .Independent ,then Soc Dem then FF .He played the field for himself .Nobody in FF will be crying to see him gone .
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Belker on December 02, 2024, 08:56:19 am
Second Election Next year FF/FG /Ladour/Soc Dems plus a few Indies or Greens .Mick Healy Wray and Danno for Minister for Mayhem .Wont Last .Very low turnout when there was no option but to return either FF or FG as part of any new coalition .Could somebody Play their Joker .FF or FG just say if the Shinners get the most seats You go ahead and sort it out with FF and FG both playing for their identity by refusing to go back into power togeather again .
Jaysus John m !  You have a serious phobia about more elections !!  lol
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: John m on December 02, 2024, 09:04:42 am
Power Ken Power .FF are touching it .Will Mick want to share the Taoiseack job .remember 82 3 elections in 16 months .Micks problem now is with his own men not FG They will try say to Mick .Why not ask FG the same deal we did for them under Enda with a support and supply deal .This is Micks last go .He might think fuck it .I will go all in put it up to all the rest to take us out .
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 02, 2024, 09:29:00 am
Dublin central always held a labour seat with Costello for many years, so sherlock should keep it for a while


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Hopefully! It's great to see a new generation of both Labour and SD TDs emerge... or maybe they just look like youngsters 'cos I'm just getting very old! Anywaysanall, long may it last.
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: John m on December 02, 2024, 09:35:15 am
Dublin central always held a labour seat with Costello for many years, so sherlock should keep it for a while


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Hopefully! It's great to see a new generation of both Labour and SD TDs emerge... or maybe they just look like youngsters 'cos I'm just getting very old! Anywaysanall, long may it last.

I remember when I was a member of the Connolly Youth in the mid 70 s Labour Leader Brendan Corish was the only elected member with a Third Level education .Todays Socialists are all Professional career driven Politicians not really concerned with Economics just Sociological Change Gay rights Abortion ,Divorce .Trans.Immigration .Most of them couldnt explain what a tracker mortgage is .GDP or GNP .
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Cool Boola on December 02, 2024, 12:09:28 pm
I think that the majority of the people who voted,should be ashamed of themselves.Maybe some of the votes were rigged.Surprised that McEntee gets higher first count .Up from 7k to 10k?….Roddy gettin in in the darkness of night?The Prime Minister doubling his vote?Hutch loosing on last count?….I dont think you can prove any rigging,especially when the Gardai were taken off ballot box guarding through the night? C:-)
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: silverbullet on December 03, 2024, 05:56:59 am

The Labour cunts are mostly teachers who work half the year, and do nixers the rest. When elected the old job is kept open for them.
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Cool Boola on December 03, 2024, 09:27:57 pm
Yur wan  Ivana Bacck O0 never worked a day in her life!…What would she know about Labour?
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Bob Shillin on December 04, 2024, 02:28:10 am
Yur wan  Ivana Bacck O0 never worked a day in her life!…What would she know about Labour?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivana_Bacik
Looks like a lifetime of work and commitment to worthwhile cause to me, a lot more than I can say for myself, and being a politician must be a nightmare of a life. Look at the price Harris paid for a lapse of patience, presumeably after a long day's campaigning..
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Cool Boola on December 04, 2024, 11:58:20 am
I dunno…Some people call getting up from a seat  working.Politicians get very well paid with huge pensions and can retire from that lifestyle if they want to.I suppose Labour is not a working class movement any more since most of the industrial jobs went from the strikes .
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Bob Shillin on December 04, 2024, 12:12:34 pm
I dunno…Some people call getting up from a seat  working.Politicians get very well paid with huge pensions and can retire from that lifestyle if they want to.I suppose Labour is not a working class movement any more since most of the industrial jobs went from the strikes .
You don't think that people who work are working class, regardless of occupation?
Title: Re: 2024 Election - it's all over bar the counting
Post by: Rat Catcher on December 05, 2024, 04:11:30 pm
Teaching is a vocation, I guess. Probably falls somewhere between a working class trade and a middle class profession on that basis... maybe upper working class with lower working class wages?