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Title: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Panel on July 12, 2025, 01:56:48 am
Yer beginning to krumble… ev warranties…. Cost per kilo… gaff chargers… straight line methoodz annal…


It’ll be a dark day on the golden mile when I see ya trundle past Ayrfield in a ev…


Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on July 13, 2025, 10:51:51 am
Yer beginning to krumble… ev warranties…. Cost per kilo… gaff chargers… straight line methoodz annal…


It’ll be a dark day on the golden mile when I see ya trundle past Ayrfield in a ev…
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Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 14, 2025, 02:23:47 am
Rodent wait a bit then wait a bit more .Teslas are almost obsolete .EV tech is developing so fast by next year you can probably get a motor with 1000km range that you can charge once a week at a super charger station near your gaff .If Donny the Orange Shite Pile does impose big tarriffs on EU goods then EU will have to impose tarriffs on Chinko goods to stop Europe being flooded with cheap imports .Might see an extra grant to purchase European made EVS .I think wait and see until the last minute before you jump .

For a lad of your delicate disposition .Would you consider a EVV Van plate it up as a crypmobile get a School run or regular invalid transport contract .Then rent out your plate to cover most of the cost of the WAV .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Punter on July 14, 2025, 05:42:21 am
So everyone accepting there will be no change in 10 year rule ?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 14, 2025, 10:47:47 am
So everyone accepting there will be no change in 10 year rule ?

Think so .Government make money from sale of new motors .Dirty Diesels wont be promoted .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 14, 2025, 11:15:46 am
Wait was my plan, erm. Just when grant scheme reopened a couple of weeks ago I had a chat with a colleague/competitor who told me one could buy a Toyota (BZ4X) EV cheaper than the equivalent VW (ID4) model which got me to thinking about changing the motor. In fact, the Toyota is a grand more than the VW (€42,000 -vs- €41,000) but, even after finding that out, something tells me that a Toyota for VW money (give or take) is a pretty good deal.

My current licence expires in January. There's no EV grant option in January - under ESPSV25 you must have your car on the road and old car scrapped (if taking the scrappage) by December 13 2025. If there's an ESPSV26 and it follows all previous ESPSV grant aid schemes it won't open until mid February. The (current) last date of operation for my current vehicle is 20 March 2026 despite it being in showroom condition so allowing for a couple of weeks to process an application I'd be cutting it a bit fine.

Obviously the logic of buying an EV is that we get grant aid so they're €10-20k cheaper than the general public would pay. In my case, taking Revenue's VRT OMSP (inherently prudent) calculation to value my current vehicle I'd be getting €10k for nothing (well, I guess there's no such thing as  free lunch, there are T&Cs restricting permissible use of the car and such like) plus €10k for a car valued at €8k so a cost saving of €12k.

A 5yo diesel DSG Octavia with up to c.100,000 kilos on the clock would cost c.€25,000, more than double what my current one cost when it was 3yo back in 2019. A similarly decent Corolla Hybrid would be c.€22,000 source locally. However, I've done some back of envelope calculations that suggest one could import a lower kilometreage one from Japan for c.€18,000 but then one would have to buy new tyres, possibly a new wireless (I don't know if that's still an issue with Jap imports?) and most likely new glass for the back doors as they all seem to come with privacy/tinted glass. A brand new MGS5 comes in at c.€35,000 which equates to €23,000 after grants for me, in real terms. Then one could spend another €6-7k on a more established brand (Toyota or VW) with (presumably) better aftersales service / spare parts availability. I guess the benefit of new over second hand might depend on whether one would realistically expect an EV to last over 7 years.

Supercharges don't interest me a lot other than something to fall back on. My current car has a range of about 800 kilos and I rarely fill it more than once a week so once one gets into the habit of plugging an EV in after every shift range shouldn't be an issue, at least not to the extent of being a deal breaker. I was considering applying for a WAV grant but I'd have less than no interest in school runs. If I wanted that level of commitment I'd either buy a small car and take driving instruction seriously or get a PAYE job... the fact is, at this stage of my life I'm happy enough pottering around doing as little work as possible!

The possibility, however remote, of an age extension for oh16 cars similar to that given to every other year of car on account of COVID is an obvious argument in favour of holding out. Worse case scenario is that I won't get a grant but it's hardly a life changing event, I'd still get a 5 year diesel or hybrid for in around the same money as a new MG would cost and considerably less than an ID4 or BZ4x... Food for thought, I guess.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Taxi driver42 on July 14, 2025, 11:04:52 pm
Lots of hybrid corolla s around latley
Lads to had avensis before
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on July 14, 2025, 11:52:30 pm
Lots of hybrid corolla s around latley
Lads to had avensis before
The 1.8 Corolla is small, The 1.4 Octavia is a good bit bigger with similar HP but a Grand more.

I have all the measurements done to include the old Avensis if'n anyone wants me to post them.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 15, 2025, 09:13:33 am
For the Brothers of the Electric Wheel .Just had Porter with a mate of mine use to be a Councillor .Have you noticed the rollout of EV Charges has slowed down nearly stopped except for Private ones in Garages or Clubs .Councils not installing them .There is a reason ? It has been brought to the councils attention through the Councils intercouncil Forum that the on Street Chargers are unsuitable for wheelchair bound users as the control panels and holsters or plug in point for your own Charging Cable are to high .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 15, 2025, 01:01:56 pm
I wouldn't look further than a Toyota for a Hybrid, Ken. For a diesel VAG would be my choice.

Which EV is a bit more complex, there's not enough of them about to draw any significant conclusions. For me the argument in favour of an EV is simple i.e. that with grant aid they're cheap so, I guess, if I keep it simple the only brand that's significantly cheaper than a diesel or hybrid is the MG with the MGS5 being top of that pile. However, if one factors in aftersales service, comfort, etc both the VW ID4 and Toyota BZ4X have to figure. There's probably not much to choose between both of them while they're under warranty... they both come with extremely expensive maintenance (for cars that require no maintenance!) but the warranty provides some comfort, I guess. I would intend to keep the car beyond the warranty period though. I know that VAGs do like a bit of attention but provided one doesn't mind getting one's hands dirty there's no great cost involved, most jobs will cost less than an EV tyre in my experience. Toyota reliability is probably significantly better than VWs but I know I don't have to tell you that when they do go wrong they go wrong in spectacularly expensive style! Between the two of those I was definitely leaning towards the ID4 until someone told me the Toyota is the same price as the VW (give or take) and MfH threw a spanner in the works by drawing attention to VWs potentially inferior battery technology. I can't remember the technical terminology but it's in another thread, I'll have to research it a bit more in due course or just count the beans and go for the MGS5 if grants are available when I make my move.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 15, 2025, 01:42:19 pm
EV 5 basic model on the Road for 15 K  First 3 years covered under warranty .Cheap motoring no recalls unlike other models Tesla are the Autistic EV loads of different stuff failing .Toyota and VW are expensive you are paying Legacy money for past brand .They never made a Battery Car before so what is the legacy premium for ? Shocks and Radio ?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 15, 2025, 01:47:22 pm
That's probably the short and narrow of it, erm... but might I suggest that VW/Toyota will have better/established parts supply chains and probably have better quality interiors/door seals/etc? How's your mate getting on with his mirror replacement saga?

Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 15, 2025, 03:07:36 pm
That's probably the short and narrow of it, erm... but might I suggest that VW/Toyota will have better/established parts supply chains and probably have better quality interiors/door seals/etc? How's your mate getting on with his mirror replacement saga?

Insurers took responsibility for repairs and sent him to THEIR prefered Garage and it is 800 more than MG quoted !
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Panel on July 15, 2025, 05:16:38 pm
Mg4, support bar for the drives seat broke, 6 weeks waiting for a replacement, couldn’t release the car as it was a safety issue, Frank Keane refused to take a seat out of another car to resolve the 6 week wait as they’re not gonna pay for labour twice.

Driver was without for 6 weeks.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 15, 2025, 05:30:15 pm
Mg4, support bar for the drives seat broke, 6 weeks waiting for a replacement, couldn’t release the car as it was a safety issue, Frank Keane refused to take a seat out of another car to resolve the 6 week wait as they’re not gonna pay for labour twice.

Driver was without for 6 weeks.

I had issue with them over service .Car returned with fault light on .It was a slow puncture .They offered reduced cost on next service .I heard from a source .They are not really interested in Repairs .They get a Fee off you for service plus a fee from MG .More coin per hour doing services than repairs .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 15, 2025, 06:46:14 pm
I assume your mate took the used notes and either negotiated a better price with the approved repairer or gave the job to the main dealer? Either way, I'd hazard a guess that if he had a Toyota or VW it woulda been repaired weeks ago.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Panel on July 15, 2025, 08:25:53 pm
I assume your mate took the used notes and either negotiated a better price with the approved repairer or gave the job to the main dealer? Either way, I'd hazard a guess that if he had a Toyota or VW it woulda been repaired weeks ago.

Part availability was the issue alright, coming from the slow boat from china.


Either way MG have very limited dealer support here or across in the uk.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 15, 2025, 08:37:45 pm
Did he go on a diet and/or take up physical exercise in preparation for getting back in the driving seat?

Them Chinese are skinny little fuckers!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Panel on July 15, 2025, 08:57:46 pm
Did he go on a diet and/or take up physical exercise in preparation for getting back in the driving seat?

Them Chinese are skinny little fuckers!

That was a conversation well hashed out over a 4in1.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Panel on July 23, 2025, 03:35:15 am
Anyway..

My money is ya getting a BZ4X, ID.4 or a Nyak.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 23, 2025, 09:39:22 am
So What Car What Car .The Big Orange Shitte Pile says he just done a deal with the Nips .If thats true then The EU are behind the 8 ball snookered we will have to Suck the Big Orange Shites Tiny Dick .That will mean Tarriffs on everything from everywhere except the EU .Expect cheap China Motors to be hit with new tarriffs to prevent the Chinaman Dumping cars here .The Nips will get theres as well .We cant allow untarriffed Japmobiles in to Europe if we dont allow Chinkmobiles ..I would guess another Minimum 5K added to the Price of Teslas /Chinkmobiles and Japmobiles .With nothing on EU manufactured Shitmobiles .VW ,Peugeot BMWs shoule close the price gap between Foreign made stuff and Euromobiles even though most of the Euromobiles are made in China .

Has to be a consideration .With higher prices and Tarriffs on Parts and services .Will it make Economic sense to buy an EV over an ICe or part human part robot hybrid ,Going to be interesting what the Big Orange Pile of Shite does to cover up his Pedo trait of riding Kids .Already the Congress have gone on holidays a few Days early to prevent a vote on releasing the Epstein Papers .

These American Cunts going to upset the whole apple cart .The Grants might not last into next year if the Orange Shitepile forces Europe to bend over .Under WTO we cannot just offer Grants to European Made Vehicles and it makes no sense to impose tarriffs on Chinamobiles or Japmobiles then take them off with Grants .


Im sure the Balbriggan Brain will do the Maths and decide if EVs are really the way to go if new tarriffs are applied to the initial purchase price .Its getting pricey now with 20K being the minimum cost of staying in the business with a Part worn Diesel or Cheap EV .Poor cunts with Crypmobiles need a second mortgage when it comes time to replace their Sheds .


Im living in the Drugs Capital of the World Clondalkin ,Pfsier .Abbotts ,Johnston and Johnston Merk .Ther are all here and Street traders for Happy Pills .Also a lot of new Data Centers .The mood around here is Bleek a lot of people worried about their Jobs the well paid in Abbottstown and Seven Mills to the Cleaners and Canteen Staff .One or two jobs put on Hold 3000 plus jobs lost to natural wastage ,retiremaen or redundancy in Intel .Government navel gazing not noticing all the empty offices around the Google Ghetto .You remember its up here for all to read .Dale from the Book going to the Ball Game told me META /Facebook were going to dump loads of Irish Workers and they did ,Barrow Street office empty for two years and the extension in Ballsbridge Halted .Microsoft in Blanch letting people go .Dont think I would like to be in a position to make a new car decision here and now .Think I got lucky the decision was made for me I was fucked off the Road because my car was registered in January 2015 a few months older they changed their minds and I would of gotten an extension .15K for a new out of the Box MG 5 now looks like a good deal .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Punter on July 23, 2025, 10:12:55 am
BZ4X  in China 15k dollars ---equates to 45k Eu -----------Some mark up eh!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 23, 2025, 10:31:56 am
Another way to look at is the EV will still be worth at least 15k in three years which means it will have cost very little to own for three years taxi usage after the grant.If EV ownership isn't what suits you can always trade it for secondhand diesel/Petrol.

Most EV owners don't go back once they get used to running the car for almost nothing.

At year three...mine should still be worth maybe 17k next year and I paid 19.5...While I've owned it for three years it it will have saved me at least 4/5k in juice over a Prius which are already miserable on fuel.I'm not the hardest worker in the fleet either.

I got 600 in the scrapper for the Prius and the charger cost me about 1000 after grants.I'm just annoyed it took Toyota so long to reduce their prices because if I had a BZ4X I'd have far fewer concerns about keeping it for ten years.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on July 23, 2025, 02:29:07 pm
Anyway..

My money is ya getting a BZ4X, ID.4 or a Nyak.
My money is on an MG.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 24, 2025, 01:07:16 am
Got an email from Free Now this morning offering €5,400 off Tesla so took a test drive in one this afternoon, accompanied by the erm. The model that'd be in the running is the Model 3 Long Range RWD at a little under €41k after Free Now driver discount which is €4,700 for that model.

Two immediate negatives are the gobshite that owns Tesla and the branding requirement, the exact terms and duration of which I'm not sure. The salesman also mentioned that NTA can be difficult to deal with, essentially referring to their zero tolerance policy on extending time limits to accommodate lead times for delivery. As of this morning he did have a few Model 3 Long Range RWD's in white which is a premium colour adding c.€1,200 (I think) to the price.

As far as driving goes the car is almost flawless. It's stunningly smooth to drive with various modes to determine sensitivity of the single pedal experience and the tech is nothing short of fabulous. I was particularly impressed with the camera image quality, the pictures displayed as you indicate left or right are really high quality as is the reverse camera. One thing that might take a bit of getting used to is the use of indicator buttons rather than the traditional stalk. As the buttons are on the steering wheel changing your indication on a roundabout i.e. with the steering wheel rotated c.172⁰ is not immediately straightforward and could distract your attention from the road. That aside there's no getting away from the fact the the car oozes quality.

As a taxi the unconventional door handles, both external and the internal buttons may cause frustration simply because they're not what folk are used to, one could certainly envisage situations where one might need to get out and open the doors for passengers.

In any event I'd recommend taking a test drive even if you're not interested in buying a car... they have a semi-permanent pop up at the Pavilions shopping center in Swords and you can book online.

What's a Nyak, I haven't heard of that one?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 24, 2025, 01:29:07 am
Subject to correction/clarification another plus is the apparent absence of servicing rip-offs. If/when the car needs attention outside of the (free?) over the air software updates you just tap a few buttons in your app to make an appointment for a ranger to come to you... probably in a good old fashioned diesel van!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: watty on July 24, 2025, 03:02:41 am
Tesla only have 2 garages in Ireland afaik - Dublin and Cork - so waiting times could be a problem.

I'm open to correction but I think Tesla uses some sort of aluminium in their shell and your average indie grease monkey can't do this sort of welding I believe?  And  the battery is integrated into the chassis so if you have a 'big' accident, the car is more likely to be written off /unrepairable than your average EV.  I think BYD have a YouTube video where their EV gets side-shunted twice in a lab setting and they put the battery into a new EV and it drives away (YouTube PR video (https://youtu.be/n2J0BVxt-rg?si=hO5BJthpEN8ldVAq)).

And personally, I don't like the paint finish on them, it just doesn't look right for some reason.  But I guess you'd be sitting inside so who cares!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 24, 2025, 06:20:22 am
If I was buying again tomorrow the weird interior door handles would be enough to turn me off my BYD model.At least once a week a passenger tries to open the door while I'm driving.These customers are mostly sober and just don't ask before they start fiddling with the interior.Oddly enough kids seen to have more restraint.

I usually have to tell them in advance too if I get the feeling they've never been in one of my cars before.

The outside door handles on the Tesla would drive me mad too.I believe they have a button on the inside to be found and pressed to exit the car.For me it's too much interaction on every fare.Adding drunks would just complicate the situation even more.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 24, 2025, 07:51:34 am
 This is MY OPINION  Some cunt will pass a fucking smart arse comment no doubt .When I road tested the MG 5 some years ago my comment was I found the rear roof sloped and passengers may strike their heads getting in .This has proven to be correct as I purchased one for 15K on the road and yes idiot passengers who havent learned to duck have struck their heads but you cannot test drive Stupit .Now as a Driver of an MG5 (estate ) me review would say the vehicle needs wind guards especially on front windows to prevent rainwater runoff entering the Cabin when windows are cracked open to ventilate the vehicle and prevent misting of the windshield due to condensation caused by multi passengers breath due to the lack of Engine Heat .The Drivers seat can be uncomfortable on long shifts as your fat or boney arse will find the heating element in the seat uncomfortable ,this can be resolved bu fitting a cushion available on Temu for 15 euro or Halfords for 30 . The mechanics of the MG so far are Faultless .I purchased the Basic Model as I have no desire to provide any sort of Luxury as in Leather seats or fancier electronics .The fare on the Meter is the same for ALL vehicles .I do not wear jewelery or rings but I have noticed wear and tear on the Steering Wheel where I grip the Steering wheel with my Right Hand .So overall rating the MG 5 for taxi Work it gets a 7 out of 10 .I doubt any other EV could achieve a Higher rating than 8 out of 10


Now I expect some fucktard to tear this review apart as well The TESLA .It was an overcast day in the Seaside Town north of Dublin where after a Discussion on the Difference between someone being a Visitor or a Guest it was decided the Racing on the Telly was unwatchable so it was time for operation get Moving to Test Drive a Tesla .The Phone was dialed "Can I book a test drive for now as in Today .The Pleasant young man on the other end of the phone agreed to set it up immediately So trowing the Keys of the MG5 to the Selected Test Driver once again I would be the Crash test dummy who played the role of the Passenger while the Executive driver steered the vehicle we headed off to the Pavillion shopping Prison in Swords to pick up the vehicle .Two were available the older s and the Y .

The newer car does exactly what Underfuherer Musk desires it looks like a Gastappo second lieutenants war time transporter especially in Tesla Gray it comes with Secrecy Glass in the rear doors and rear windscreen .It wasent ever considered as a suitable Taxi so we ignored it Ugly as fuck big clunky thing .

The older model refined think it was the S was chosen after all the paperwork the Test Pilot went with a Dusky Beauty to be introduced to the vehicle while I spoke to and Old lad 82 years old who informed those Electric things would never catch on .When the Test Pilot was updated on how the Tesla worked and you DO need to be updated .He took it out and I became the Passenger .This is a Passengers review not the Drivers I did not drive it .

The Driver moaned a good bit as we started out .There is no indicator shaft on the Tesla its a button on the Steering Wheel which is confusing if you are going around a roundabout with the Steering wheel locked hard to locate and operate the indicators to signal your movements .It seems an after sales indicator shaft can de purchased .The Drive is very comfortable but for Gentlemen of a certain build the seats are a little tight .The internal gadgets are excellent especially the Mirror Cameras top quality but I did ask the Pilot if he was concerned there is an Internal camera in the Mirror looking at either passengers or Driver .The on screen display to me was very off putting as Im not into gadgets .No what you might call a traditional Dash board no Speedo or anything in front og you all on the To my eye oversized Screen .you would need to have one or at least half an eye on the Screen to monitor your speed and to me personally a major distraction as to much that I dont care about is happening on the Screen not really necessary for me to drive safely .The quality of the Finish internally for a top brand motor car is not great no better than my own BASIC model MG .

Now as a Passenger the Door opening arrangement is confusing .The external door handles probably could not be operated by Big Dommos Sisters sisters youngest youngone with her artificial stick on fingernails or Billy the Bastards Youngfella full of Coke or Pernod and Black .Then there is the internal door release catch .It is a well disguised button and not the traditional lever mechanism .I opined to the Pilot it could get a lad into a bit of bother if you had a Drunken Sailors Shoreside Squeeze sitting in the Front passenger Seat and she could not locate the Well disguised door release and you had to lwan across her to open the Door .He resolved the issue by saying he would get out and walk around and open the door for her to avoid any missaprehention that you were leaning over for a groap

Now Me personally working Dublin about 6% of my Work is to the Port so carrying Freight is important .The Old model MG 5 has a removable top shelf allowing me to comfortably load 3 full size suitcases struggle to load 4 .The Tesla boot is beep but shallow Doubt it would take 3 full size cases but the Young Person showing us the vehicle introduced us to the FRONk a front baggage compartment it was smallish would not take another full size suitcase and would not take two Ryanair Walkon sized hand luggage cases .

My opinion I expect some person who never contributes fuck all to this forum to pass some smart arsed remark .I wouldnt buy a Tesla even with the 4700 discount available from FreeNow if you brand the Motor for a Year (read the terms and Conditions .But almost 25K off the Purchase price with Free Now money and The Eamo The Cabbage Grants it might suit some semi retired lads looking foe an escapemobile rather than a working taxi

As a Working Taxi MY Opinion I give it 2 out of 10 .Luggage compartment restricted The Door Handles are ridiculous to operate by Passengers and could cause friction .The Gadgets are top class but again to me distracting .The indication would need getting use to .So on MY Personal Taxi Rank the MG 5 older model ids first based on quality and Price .Next week before Porter and racing from Goodwood and Galway and Pints possibly in Quinlins Clondalkin if anybody wants to join us day to be decided we intend to Roadtest the ID 4 or the New MG5 or possibly both .

Now be aware the offer of grants are time sensitive make sure you test drive and know what you want before you apply for the grant as you only have two months from offer to closing to get all your ducks in a row .IF YOU DO NOT COMPLETE ALL THE NECESSARY PAPER WORK INCLUDING SCRAPPAGE CERTS AND TAKING DELIVERY OF THE VEHICLE BEFORE THE CLOSING DATE OF THE OFFER YOU MAY LOSE IT .(I do not know but im sure the Balbriggan Brain will contact the Taxithingey but Does the Vehicle need to be passed out as a taxi to qualify for the Grant if so allow enough time and make sure a Meter is available to be fitted in good time and a date secured for suitability within the time frame of your Grant offer .I believe that some drivers have has trouble securing a vehicle and getting it registered as a taxi within the timeframe of the offer and lost part or all of the grant (this is hearsay I have no proof but it was a usually reliable source who mentioned it and the Sales assistant who made no attempt to sell us a car also mentioned he had been aware of delivery time anxiety by drivers .So the advice know what you want before you get conformation of your offer know what the delivery time is as the Grant offer is time sensitive .You need to complete all the steps in the two month window .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: watty on July 24, 2025, 08:19:05 am
Another thing that worries me about EV's (and probably all new cars) is the huge computer monitor.  If some drunk smashes that, are you out of business because (a) it'll take 3 months for the replacement and (b) you can't work the car without it?  On my old MG5, I only need the screen for the radio, I've buttons and a driver's display for everything else. 

We're moany aul fukks, aren't we  lol
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 24, 2025, 08:36:44 am
No Watty we are not moany just aware .I went MG more or less on your posts .Imagine you smash a wing mirror I bet we all broke at least one and you are due suitability .The Tesla has cameras and stuff and things and Yokes In other Words we know fuck all about the Softwear or Hardware and Cost of Replacement .Like you said and I too only use the screen for the radio if lost I might hit the Map I do not allow my Phone engage with the on board devices .

 I did not like the internal Camera in the Tesla that is an invasion of my privacy my workspace .I could be having a Private conversation with a passenger or talking to myself in an intelligent diatribe only to be monitored by a SouthAfrican Born Nazi .To what ends .The Tesla has NO service intervals and if you have a problem no Main Dealers you book a Tesla Ranger to come to you and fix the Problem .I have no idea how much the callout is or how cost sensative any repairs might be or if the warranty is compromised .The Warranty is not great 80K on the short range model and something like 170K on the long range model .

Possibly as what the Yanks call town cars the Tesla self driving Taxi may make a Coin but for a Taxi vehicle for Dublin with Sharon from Finglas wanting to bring home the washing from her mothers or the youngfellas Scooter from the Childrens court of her brothers bags to the airport as he jumps Bail I dont see the Tesla as a viable taxi vehicle .It does not tick the luggage box and the door handles are a no .But 20k Grant and up to 4700 extra in free Now discount if you brand it .Its definitely a possibility for a semi retired lad working days with sober passengers 25K off the List price makes good business sence if you are semi retired .But for me PERSONALLY not really a suitable taxi vehicle .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 24, 2025, 09:20:33 am
Just as an aside . Why I question the internal camera on the Tesla .read this carefully?

 An oversight judge on phone tapping said it was “imperative” the Government urgently clarified in law the roles and powers of military intelligence in safeguarding the security of the State.

In his 2025 report, Mr Justice Tony O’Connor said the Defence Forces recently built a new high-security facility for the Irish Military Intelligence Service (IMIS).

The service moved into the building last March, but the service is still awaiting Government measures to modernise and legislate for its national security remit.

Mr O’Connor is the designated judge for the Interception of Postal Packets and Telecommunications Messages Act 1993 and Communications (Retention of Data) Act 2011, as amended by the 2022 act.

In his report to the Taoiseach for May 1, 2024, to April 1, 2025, Judge O’Connor repeated his calls for online communication, including encrypted services to be included in the laws. This includes Gmail, Outlook, Microsoft Teams, FaceTime, Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp.

The interception legislation is now 32 years old and successive governments have promised updated laws, with the current administration telling the Dáil a draft bill is due later this year.

An Garda Síochána and the Defence Forces utilise powers of interception, the former for the investigation of serious crime and State security and the latter for State security only.

Other agencies, such as Revenue and Fiosrú (formerly Gsoc), have powers under the 2011 act on communication (not content) data.

The role of designated judges have now been taken over by the new independent examiner of security.

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Mr O’Connor, like designated judges before him, does not provide statistical data on the number of phone interceptions, with Mr O’Connor maintaining he sees “little merit” in doing so.

The High Court judge said applications from the gardaí were “low” and were “down in numbers”, adding all were granted by the minister for justice.

“The number of authorisations granted pursuant to section 4 [serious offence investigations] were not significantly higher than those made under section 5 [security of the State],” the judge said.

In his previous, 2024 report, he said the number of interceptions “relative to the State’s population size appear low”.

He said the existing and anticipated developments on communication known to An Garda Síochána “should be accommodated” in the new legislation.

Mr Justice O’Connor said military intelligence moved to a “new bespoke secured facility” last March.

“The new facility is a welcome development and affords a modern and professional aspect,” he said. “The new building is purpose-built to top secret clearances and security specifications.”

He said the old Irish Military Intelligence Service building, which they had used since the 1980s, was transferred to new Joint Cyber Defence Command in May.

Judge O’Connor pointed out military intelligence uses the acts only in matters relating to the security of the State and the integrity of its institutions. It is for intelligence purposes only.

The report said the use of the 1993 and 2011 acts for military intelligence “was limited” over the last 11 months, but added the “significance and value of those provisions for the PDF should not be underestimated”.

He said he supported the “urgent call” made by the Commission on the Defence Forces in its February 2022 report for clarification of the role, functions and powers of military intelligence in new legislation.

“There is an imperative to clarify the role, functions and powers of the IMIS in underpinning legislation,” he said.


NOW WHO IS WATCHING YOU AND WHY ? Paranoia .This can be verified .Im sitting in the Seaside Villa in North Dublin and we are discussing the Free Now discount on a tesla in fact it motivates us to go test drive one .Now I did say Discussing .I made no search on line my phone was on the table .I had not opened the Free Now app or E mail about Tesla but had spoken to the Pilot about it .When I opened my phone I got an E mail and messages in my feed from Tesla .So the only way that information could of been acquired was it some bott was listening in to my conversation without my knowledge or Consent ?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 24, 2025, 09:52:51 am
WHY ?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1z1KeCGFzvc
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 24, 2025, 11:08:43 am
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1z1KeCGFzvc (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1z1KeCGFzvc)
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 24, 2025, 11:37:10 am
How can Freenow negotiate any discounts anyways....its just an app I'd say we could all get one close to the discount price minus the stickers.Telsas aren't exactly flying out of the showrooms at the moment.

Mate of mine has a model 3 and thinks the rear passenger room is a little tight.Model Y is the one for a taxi if you decided to get one.

Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 24, 2025, 12:35:55 pm
I think the "fronk" ought to be spelt FRUNK, erm. I did ask you the rhetorical question of when did a north county burd start calling boots trunks... Lucky she didn't accompany us to Next looking for a pair of trunks... or, maybe, unlucky for us?

I don't share your reservations regarding the speedo display. I don't think it's any more difficult to see or distracting than the traditional dial and I am in the habit of deploying cruise control to ensure I stay within the speed limit anyway. The aftermarket indicator stalk is non-Tesla but doesn't void the warranty. I don't think I'd consider it myself, I'd expect to get used to ambidextrous button pressing where required quickly enough. 

In any event, they're lovely people to deal with / chat with... anyone interested or even mildly curious would be well advised to pop in or book an appointment on the internet and assess it for themselves.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 24, 2025, 12:46:35 pm
Good point on the aluminium, Watty. I wasn't aware that it was aluminium - no doubt now pronounced alume-in-um in the north county town of Sewerds! Welding aluminium does require quite specialist equipment... the inverter one might have picked up in the clearance section of the middle aisle of a popular German discount grocery store for €24.99 certainly wouldn't be up to the job!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: watty on July 24, 2025, 01:12:27 pm
Good point on the aluminium, Watty. I wasn't aware that it was aluminium - no doubt now pronounced alume-in-um in the north county town of Sewerds! Welding aluminium does require quite specialist equipment... the inverter one might have picked up in the clearance section of the middle aisle of a popular German discount grocery store for €24.99 certainly wouldn't be up to the job!

Double-check me on that with someone who knows about cars.  I could be wrong.  I think it's part of their goal of moving towards an all-robotic factory.  The frame & battery all go together to increase rigidity but decreasing weight by using aluminium.  I remember thinking that Tesla were making a big assumption that cars don't crash.  To my little brain, I was thinking you break one thing, you break the whole car!  And that may be why BYD put out their crash-test video as a counterpunch?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 24, 2025, 01:23:05 pm
It's all very confusing.Tesla also use BYD batteries in some models. Ssangyong now have anoher name called KGM and their new model is the KGM Torres Ev.I've seen a couple out there as taxis and they're impressive looking yokes....plenty of space.They use BYD drivetrains too.

Added to that there is a lot more choice in EVs available now.KIAs EV3 passes suitably as I've seen one on the road.BYD also have the Seal u and new sealion 7 model.If you like the Model 3 you'd love the BYD seal.Very sporty.All good looking yokes but the dealers are the weak link.

About Tesla's I had a lady solicitor in the car recently telling be her Tesla house charger was broken and it took them months to resolve the issue and they only got the finger out when she sent them a legal letter threatening them.Seems like all these companies have too few fixers for all the shit they sell.Pointless having warranties if they're to slow to repair.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on July 24, 2025, 01:25:27 pm
Got an email from Free Now this morning offering €5,400 off Tesla so took a test drive in one this afternoon, .....

...... RWD's in white which is a premium colour adding c.€1,200 (I think) to the price. ......

I got that same FN Tesla email today and immediatly thought of you, as you qualify perfectly, as in you have a Car ready fer Scrappage, have a partner with an Ice car fer unexpected emergencies, and have driveway access fer a home charger.

I don't understand why they ask fer c.€1,200 fer it to be in White ?
Both Toyota and Skoda whom I have researched offer the basic model Free of colour charges in White !
Title: Hold strong Rc
Post by: MK on July 24, 2025, 01:26:01 pm
As been said The model Y seems better suited as a taxi, i also remember reading they’re trying to bring the indicator stalk back because of too many complaints. Tesla do have delivery issues I was talking to someone whose grant was almost running out, was then told by Nta to wait until the last week of expiry to request an extension.


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Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 24, 2025, 04:02:03 pm
VW charge extra for any colour that's not grey, Ken. I think the standard or included Tesla colour is also grey. Different criteria for different makes/models is all it is... but it is what it is, nowt we can do about it. I don't think any of them have much available stock at any given time.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 24, 2025, 04:08:50 pm
Another thing that worries me about EV's (and probably all new cars) is the huge computer monitor.  If some drunk smashes that, are you out of business because (a) it'll take 3 months for the replacement and (b) you can't work the car without it?  On my old MG5, I only need the screen for the radio, I've buttons and a driver's display for everything else. 

We're moany aul fukks, aren't we  lol

I guess grant aid is effectively putting middle class cars within the reach of working class men. A bloke with a 6 figure salary and a gaff worth over €2 million isn't going to give a fuck about spending a few grand on a cracked screen in his family runabout but to us a few grand is a lot of hard labour!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 24, 2025, 04:43:26 pm
Go on tell  them whart we were advised to put in the front
 Trunk
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 24, 2025, 05:01:43 pm
As much of Mr. Wu's* finest cuisine as we could envisage consuming... stops the smell getting into the car. It was also mentioned that we could fill it with (alcoholic) beverages packed with ice ifn we had the bigger/better model in which the frunk is fitted with a drain plug.

You did actually miss the demonstration of the virtual fart cushion. You can make any seat produce a noise not dissimilar to a passenger passing wind through his posterior.... I kid you not! I just thought how Musk... and we wondered how he got the fleet onto the White House drive... one can just imagine the amusement the pair of halfwits got from that feature.

*other fast food restaurants are available.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 24, 2025, 07:38:07 pm
You in your usual informed questioning did wonder could you fit a large Pizza in a Box into the Frunk .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 25, 2025, 07:51:43 pm
I think we should call it the froot... or fruit if you prefer.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Panel on July 26, 2025, 12:42:33 am
RC… yer on the ropessss maaaan
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 29, 2025, 10:40:22 pm
You ready the knock on me door was opened The Rodent and his Princess had arrived from the sunny North Dublin Enclave that hosted their 3 story Villa .We were ready for hospitality Fully cooked Breakfast but it was declined .So we headed off the Rodent and the Lab Rat (me) to test drive the MG5 .new version .It disappointed .Boot space is restricted and the Selling Monkey could not guarantee delivery I reviewed the MG 5 before new version has better access for passengers but over all it scores a less than previous 7/10  now scores 6/10 boot space restricted .I did not drive this car acted as passenger monkey sat in back


Before we went for porter with Rodent .Meself .Occi and Rialto Driver .We test drove the bZ4X, a battery-electric SUV .Now personally I dont give either of my two fucks what the passenger thinks the meter shows the same but having said that the MG5 estate 15 months old is showing signs of wear  Steering wheel .Driver seat and door rubbers showing wear .I wouldn't take a Tesla as a Taxi for ten Fifties its a useless piece of crap >i rated it 2/10 .Really disapointed with the New MG 5 doot space if you work the port is a problem if you work the burbs BUY THIS ITS GREAT .But if tou cover a bit of Airpoer work The Toyoya 7 K moe expensive meets all the requirements about 24 K give or take Lovely car to be a passenger in plenty of head room leg room and boot space.I previously said an EV cannot score 10/10 because of price I gave the OLD MG 5 a 7 out of ten I would not give the new one the same 6/10 .The Toyota gets top marks that can be reached on my EV scale based of vehicle and Costs .IM MY HUMBLE OPINION THE BEST VEHICLE TO TAXI .But if you are part time rural not loading the Book you wont beat the MG5 for value .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 29, 2025, 11:04:03 pm
Loading the BOOT .new MG 5 struggle to get 3 american airlines terminal 2 cases on board .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 30, 2025, 11:12:12 am
Im sure the Rodent will be along later to explain .The issue of finding a car AVAILABLE FOR DELIVERY .Scrapping your old Smoker .getting it registered with a number plate, fitted with a meter and through the Suitability all within 2 months to qualify for the full grant money might take a bit of planning and the choice of vehicle spec and colour might be limited .

Have you ever met a New Car Sales Man ? 3 testdrives nobody actually tried to sell us a car just pointed you in the direction told us what was not available then what MIGHT be available .You hav to get information out of them like Lugs Brannigan in Kevin Street Garda Station in the 1960 .No straight answers to how much coin you had to fork out to drive it out the Door loads of extras like scotchguard the seats shiney stuff for the paint removing dark glass all extras most you dont want or need .One lad said Paint was extra .Im thinking would it not go rusty if its not painted .But he meant you choose a colour its extra fancy paint its extra .Service package its extra .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 30, 2025, 11:56:34 am
One of the reasons there are so many BYDs on the road is the dealers had loads of stock.At the time I bought mine different colours were no extra charge.The "free" service pack includes two pairs of tyres and two years servicing but they'll only change the tyres if they need to be changed.

I got the feeling from them that they didn't need to try too as hard because they knew we had 20k on the way.Don't be afraid to haggle with them as they're likely making 3/5 k on each car depending on the dealer.

One thing we don't talk about is the size of the different EVs.I was behind a 2006 Land cruiser the other day and it looked kinda small by today's standards.I'd say the BZ4x would make it look tiny.

I remember when those BZ4xs came out some reviewers said they couldn't see the Speedo behind the steering wheel perhaps they were too tall?.Do some more test drives until you're happy.I'd be paying the extra for the Toyota but that's just me not wanting to pay a garage for repairs in a few years.

7k is still alot of bread.I believe there's a new BZ4x on the way that looks better and has better range and charging speed.Chances are it will be pricier though.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 30, 2025, 12:51:17 pm
Over in Fonthill this morning ran into a Fella I use to get work off years ago .He is now an Estate Manager for a few Shopping Centers .I asked him why there were no EV Chargers in Fonthill .He said when they apply for planning for shopping centers they must provide a certain amount of parking bays .The amount of Parking can set the rent roll its calculated in the Rent .They must also provide a certain amount of UTILITY parking spots Some for Wheelchair but you see some painted off for Mother and baby parking . He said the reason they do not give all the Utility Space over to Wheelchair Vehicles id because they cannot clamp or interfear with a Wheelie .And some people are using the Wheelie parking if they have a badge to park all day .He said most Shopping centers do not want to provide Charging Bays as they add no value to them and cause a nuisance with people loitering to get in to charge .Often wondered why Liffey Valley didnt have banks of Chargers for Customers .Certa have rapid chargers in Liffey Valley along with Petrol and Diesel .Think the two Aldis in Ballyfermot have Chargers in their carparks .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 30, 2025, 01:12:23 pm
From a driving perspective the Tesla is the only one that really grabs your attention. There's not a lot of difference to driving any automatic car as far as the others are concerned. Strangely, I found the MG5S marginally more comfortable than the BZ4X but I didn't play around with the seat adjustments. I got an Uber job up above to Dublin this morning so I dropped into Joe Duffy VW, Airside to test drive the ID4. For me it was the most comfortable to drive. The build quality of both the ID4 and BZ4X is significantly better than the MG, IMO. If price wasn't a factor the ID4 would be my first choice with the BZ4X a very close second. The question is how much better are they in terms of pounds, shillings and pence?

MGS5 positives: Price, single pedal driving options, tyre size
MGS5 negatives: piss poor aftersales service, boot space, 1yr/24k kilo service interval (according to main dealer)

ID4 positives: comfort, build quality, 2yr unlimited mileage service interval (according to VW UK www site)
ID4 negatives: tyre size, no single pedal driving options, no heat pump, battery technology?

BZ4X positives: build quality, heat pump included (I think)
BZ4X negatives: tyre size, 1yr/15k kilo service interval (https://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/219512-service-plan/ (https://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/219512-service-plan/)), no single pedal driving modes (AFAIK, again I didn't really look for it on the test drive, just drove it as it was)

There's more to be learned in terms of positives and negatives from this post http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=18135.msg271689#msg271689 (http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=18135.msg271689#msg271689) - primarily about the BZ4X but some may also apply to the ID4. I don't know if the MG has a heat pump so I couldn't include that as a positive or negative in that case.

Availability could also prove to be a barrier. Joe Duffy only has the higher spec ID4 (Pro Plus) @€45,000 whereas it's the Pro model I'd prefer @€41,000. Toyota have 3 BZ4Xs knocking about with delivery in c.7 days. Frank Keane MG have a few (mostly higher spec "Exclusive" models) on the way with no guarantee that they'll arrive on any defined date.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 30, 2025, 01:29:01 pm
I've been in ID4 Taxis with the bigger alloys and (to me anyway) it's quite noticeable how bumpy and noisy the ride was compared to the smaller wheel versions.More tyre profile generally means more comfort unless you go into luxury car models with fancy air suspension.

If my car came with the bigger wheels I'd be getting the smaller ones put on from the dealer.Tyres should be slightly cheaper too.Our roads aren't really made out for big alloys.There are roads in Africa better than some of the roads around Dublin city.

If you still haven't decided in a year RC I could give you a good price on mine if it means I can trade to a BZ4X.I wonder could another driver claim the lower grant on my vehicle after I've decided to flog it?Just a thought really.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 30, 2025, 02:07:31 pm
Unfortunately the current last date of operation for my current car is c.20 March 2026. If I'm gonna take the grant offer I have now I'll have to buy a car in the next day or two. Time to piss or get off the pot, I guess. If I wait 'till next year I'll be relying on there being an ESPSV26 grant aid scheme and it opening in mid Feb (as per previous years) at the latest. Probably certain enough but if I wait and there isn't an ESPSV26 scheme I'd probably have to settle for a 5yo hybrid.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on July 30, 2025, 05:37:21 pm
I think the "fronk" ought to be spelt FRUNK, erm. I did ask you the rhetorical question of when did a north county burd start calling boots trunks... Lucky she didn't accompany us to Next looking for a pair of trunks... or, maybe, unlucky for us?

I don't share your reservations regarding the speedo display. I don't think it's any more difficult to see or distracting than the traditional dial and I am in the habit of deploying cruise control to ensure I stay within the speed limit anyway. The aftermarket indicator stalk is non-Tesla but doesn't void the warranty. I don't think I'd consider it myself, I'd expect to get used to ambidextrous button pressing where required quickly enough. 

In any event, they're lovely people to deal with / chat with... anyone interested or even mildly curious would be well advised to pop in or book an appointment on the internet and assess it for themselves.
Locals waving at a Tesla driver:


(https://i.postimg.cc/26dBPHSf/IDS-waving-at-a-Tesla.webp) (https://postimg.cc/LYXXP3Py)
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on July 30, 2025, 05:42:09 pm
From a driving perspective the Tesla is the only one that really grabs your attention. There's not a lot of difference to driving any automatic car as far as the others are concerned. Strangely, I found the MG5S marginally more comfortable than the BZ4X but I didn't play around with the seat adjustments. I got an Uber job up above to Dublin this morning so I dropped into Joe Duffy VW, Airside to test drive the ID4. For me it was the most comfortable to drive. The build quality of both the ID4 and BZ4X is significantly better than the MG, IMO. If price wasn't a factor the ID4 would be my first choice with the BZ4X a very close second. The question is how much better are they in terms of pounds, shillings and pence?

MGS5 positives: Price, single pedal driving options, tyre size
MGS5 negatives: piss poor aftersales service, boot space, 1yr/24k kilo service interval (according to main dealer)

ID4 positives: comfort, build quality, 2yr unlimited mileage service interval (according to VW UK www site)
ID4 negatives: tyre size, no single pedal driving options, no heat pump, battery technology?

BZ4X positives: build quality, heat pump included (I think)
BZ4X negatives: tyre size, 1yr/15k kilo service interval ([url]https://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/219512-service-plan/[/url] ([url]https://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/219512-service-plan/[/url])), no single pedal driving modes (AFAIK, again I didn't really look for it on the test drive, just drove it as it was)

There's more to be learned in terms of positives and negatives from this post [url]http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=18135.msg271689#msg271689[/url] ([url]http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=18135.msg271689#msg271689[/url]) - primarily about the BZ4X but some may also apply to the ID4. I don't know if the MG has a heat pump so I couldn't include that as a positive or negative in that case.

Availability could also prove to be a barrier. Joe Duffy only has the higher spec ID4 (Pro Plus) @€45,000 whereas it's the Pro model I'd prefer @€41,000. Toyota have 3 BZ4Xs knocking about with delivery in c.7 days. Frank Keane MG have a few (mostly higher spec "Exclusive" models) on the way with no guarantee that they'll arrive on any defined date.

Talk to Jamie O'Callaghan, or Brian Mordaunt in Blackwater Motors.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 30, 2025, 06:03:13 pm
I spoke with the lovely Nicole in Blackwater a couple of weeks back and they had a Pro model ready to go. I could've reserved it with a €500 refundable deposit but opted not to. Alas, some cute Cork whore has snapped it up since. After ringing around a few dealers up above in Dublin I decided that if the one in Cork was still available I'd buy it and if not I'll hold out until next year... so, without resorting to a coin toss, my mind is made up. I'm going to wait until next year and if I get a grant offer then I'll know to move a bit quicker.

It's probably the right decision for me. To be honest I'd find it very stressful wondering if I'm going to get the €20,000 back and it'd be €20,000 of someone else's money. By next year I should have a fair bit of it myself. I know once you get the offer the chances of not getting the grant are nil but my OCD doesn't allow me ignore what's written in black and white i.e. the grant is dependent on money still being available.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Panel on July 30, 2025, 06:27:07 pm
I spoke with the lovely Nicole in Blackwater a couple of weeks back and they had a Pro model ready to go. I could've reserved it with a €500 refundable deposit but opted not to. Alas, some cute Cork whore has snapped it up since. After ringing around a few dealers up above in Dublin I decided that if the one in Cork was still available I'd buy it and if not I'll hold out until next year... so, without resorting to a coin toss, my mind is made up. I'm going to wait until next year and if I get a grant offer then I'll know to move a bit quicker.

It's probably the right decision for me. To be honest I'd find it very stressful wondering if I'm going to get the €20,000 back and it'd be €20,000 of someone else's money. By next year I should have a fair bit of it myself. I know once you get the offer the chances of not getting the grant are nil but my OCD doesn't allow me ignore what's written in black and white i.e. the grant is dependent on money still being available.

A pragmatic and sage decision to hold off
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 30, 2025, 06:38:15 pm
Not sure but I've made my bed either way.

I guess there's still an outside chance of a reprieve for 2016 cars... Punter reported that it was mentioned in a TAC meeting. Probably a long shot but I would be properly pissed off if such an extension materialised after I'd bought an EV nua and scrapped a 2016 reg in showroom condition. Conversely, I don't think I'll be overly annoyed if I end up having to settle for a second hand diesel or hybrid.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Punter on July 30, 2025, 06:39:47 pm
Concur !
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 30, 2025, 08:15:03 pm
Not sure but I've made my bed either way.

I guess there's still an outside chance of a reprieve for 2016 cars... Punter reported that it was mentioned in a TAC meeting. Probably a long shot but I would be properly pissed off if such an extension materialised after I'd bought an EV nua and scrapped a 2016 reg in showroom condition. Conversely, I don't think I'll be overly annoyed if I end up having to settle for a second hand diesel or hybrid.

I know you would not of totally wasted your time so what colour was the car you decided not to buy ?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 30, 2025, 08:31:42 pm
Problem is once you drive the new cars it plants a seed in yer head.The way I looked at it I had a good run with me oul Prius ans I'd prefer to change the car while there was still a bit of work to pay it off.Luckily things kept going ok so it worked out.Now I have a newer car that I never wash.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 30, 2025, 10:07:07 pm
Honest John  Reviews .I posted things as I found them .Rodent mostly agreed but we disagreed on the Tesla Screen with no in cabin speedo .I found it distracting .

I Bought the Cheapest of the Cheap No frills .I dont pay for passenger Comfort .So 16 months on MG5 estate ,Review .Mechanically No Probs .Really like the way it drives .I have a cushion 15 Euro from Temu .Found the seat uncomfortable on a long shift .Im overweight saggy arse so I could feel the heating element in the drivers seat .The steering wheel is showing signs of wear on the right where I place my hand .I do not wear any rings .The door rubber is beginning to show damage from getting in and out .Most drivers probably get in and out 4 times a day .We could enter and exit a car twenty times a day if you are helping passengers put crap in the boot .The basic cloth seats in the MG5 are poor very thin nylon but the half leather ones are also crap .the stitching between leather and cloth rips .You get what you pay for .

Steering wheel cover 15 euro Pull over seat covers for MG5 on temu 70 euro .Another problem rain runs off the roof you will need wind deflectors as you will drive with the windows cracked open tp prevent windscreen misting up from customers breath on your own you might get away with it but if its cold outside windscreen mists up .

Still would not pay the extra for seats and alloys a ton and a half will solve all the quality problems .From our test drives the difference between basic do the job and quality is about 7 grand .So once again My OPINION .MG is mechanically good finish quality is poor .

Merch might give us an update on BYD quality .

https://www.temu.com/ie/kuiper/un9.html?subj=goods-un&_bg_fs=1&_p_jump_id=894&_x_vst_scene=adg&goods_id=601100207829759&sku_id=17595185845944&adg (https://www.temu.com/ie/kuiper/un9.html?subj=goods-un&_bg_fs=1&_p_jump_id=894&_x_vst_scene=adg&goods_id=601100207829759&sku_id=17595185845944&adg)



https://www.google.com/search?q=mg+steering+wheel+cover&rlz=1C1CHZN_enIE947IE947&oq=MG%25+steering+wheel+cover&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQ (https://www.google.com/search?q=mg+steering+wheel+cover&rlz=1C1CHZN_enIE947IE947&oq=MG%25+steering+wheel+cover&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQ)
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 30, 2025, 10:12:10 pm
Not sure but I've made my bed either way.

I guess there's still an outside chance of a reprieve for 2016 cars... Punter reported that it was mentioned in a TAC meeting. Probably a long shot but I would be properly pissed off if such an extension materialised after I'd bought an EV nua and scrapped a 2016 reg in showroom condition. Conversely, I don't think I'll be overly annoyed if I end up having to settle for a second hand diesel or hybrid.

I know you would not of totally wasted your time so what colour was the car you decided not to buy ?
  lol platinum grey
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 30, 2025, 10:16:24 pm
Not sure but I've made my bed either way.

I guess there's still an outside chance of a reprieve for 2016 cars... Punter reported that it was mentioned in a TAC meeting. Probably a long shot but I would be properly pissed off if such an extension materialised after I'd bought an EV nua and scrapped a 2016 reg in showroom condition. Conversely, I don't think I'll be overly annoyed if I end up having to settle for a second hand diesel or hybrid.

I know you would not of totally wasted your time so what colour was the car you decided not to buy ?
  lol platinum grey

FUCK OFF you had inside information .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 30, 2025, 10:21:20 pm
Occi did you see what actually happened here .We did a thing that actually might help somebody .If the Rodent was concerned about getting the deal over the line in 2 months what chance might others have .I went through MD they did all the donkey work .But you could do it all yourself save a wedge .I was very happy with MD have sent them a few lads .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 30, 2025, 10:34:45 pm
Ratt ... listen to me for 1 minute ....
First off can ya afford the new car without gettin a loan ?
Secondly I need to point out that lying under a heap o shoite in yur shed pullin out gearboxes is not a hobby ... its a diversion from real life .... thirdly .. yu ain't gettin any younger so yu need as minimum as possible bolloxolygy an the most reliable car ya can afford to get ... yu need to get on wit other tings like walking on the beach wit the luv o yur life an watchin betflix wit yur favourite tipple in yur hand .... the mg to me is the cheapest option but ya gets wats ya pays for an accordin to yur colleagues/ competitors... thers no after sales service ,parts or legal obligation for the cunts to do abtin fir ya if sumtin goes rong ....
The Toyota ya say may not hav a proven ev record an ther diesels wer absolute shite as yu say ( kens turbo erc / erg or watever other bollix it was that cost him the price of a new care i dont want to know )  but the prius is a fukin smashing piece of engineering an Toyota stopped makin diesels few yers ago cause they know its limits .... the reason Toyotas diesels wer shoite is because they stopped research an development yers ago cause they knew it wud become extinction... an they knew it was 19th century tech but kept producin to compete with the idiots in vw who had the european market .... but they invented the hybrid an perfected the electric battery in the hybrid an the step to a full ev vehicles is a tiny step away with only the question exists ... can they produce a reliable ev battery ? The answer is a resoundin yes ...
I wud see the 7000 more ya pay fir a Toyota over an mg as an insurance policy for piece of mind an gettin on wit livin ( thats if you can afford it ) .... otherwise ide buy a dacia an keep climbing under the heap of shite at 1 o'clock in the morning an the luv o yur life askin ya ... " are ya OK hunny " ? an bringin ya tea an biscuits.....

Go wit the Toyota... yur only decision is the colour ...

 ::sleep
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 30, 2025, 11:02:41 pm
Occi did you see what actually happened here .We did a thing that actually might help somebody .If the Rodent was concerned about getting the deal over the line in 2 months what chance might others have .I went through MD they did all the donkey work .But you could do it all yourself save a wedge .I was very happy with MD have sent them a few lads .
Forgive me autism johnny ( me ma left me outside clearys in me pram wen prams wer forbidden  ) wats md ?  lol
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 31, 2025, 12:44:01 am
Not really a review but more of a list of compalaints.....I don't drive it enough to know how durable it is or isn't yet..

I had it back in the first six months to fix something lose in the steering.They never told me what was repaired even though they promised to email me.I did meet another driver in Blanch who told me his CV joint was faulty after 30k and he had to get his own mechanic to repair it as MSL weren't fast enough.


Rear door seals are falling apart at 40k which I think is a warranty claim but I'm waiting for MSL to let me know next week.Steering is off center for some reason like Hals.Hope it will be fixed next week.

Hal's driver seat is splitting and I believe he got it repaired himself as MSL weren't very helpful.Mines ok but I'm not in it as much as him.

He currently has charger issues and the dealer isn't fixing it in a hurry.Major red flag IMO.

I like the car.. customers seem to like it a lot and it's lovely to drive but I don't really want to hang on to it long term if I can avoid it.Might be fine as I'm a light user but dealing with MSL is a huge problem.No point in having a warranty if it can't be repaired reasonably quickly.Their aftersales is brutal.Ruins the ownership experience.They really should be looking after their taxi owners as we were first to adopt the brand and if one of us is unhappy we will tell a hundred passengers and they'll tell a hundred people.Word gets around fast.

Great car...ok quality but shite dealers.

Just to add maybe all the dealers are shite though?Once they have your money they're not really in a hurry to do anything more.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Wingnut on July 31, 2025, 01:46:42 am
I have the Bz just over 2 years now and can't fault it in fairness, I paid 30k after the grants so yis are getting a bargain with the price they offer now. Almost 90k on the clock an zero issues, getting it serviced every 15k is a pain in ass but the warranty is great peace of mind.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 31, 2025, 08:35:26 am
Occi did you see what actually happened here .We did a thing that actually might help somebody .If the Rodent was concerned about getting the deal over the line in 2 months what chance might others have .I went through MD they did all the donkey work .But you could do it all yourself save a wedge .I was very happy with MD have sent them a few lads .
Forgive me autism johnny ( me ma left me outside clearys in me pram wen prams wer forbidden  ) wats md ?  lol
Its a South Side thing Occi Mount Drummond Motors Haroldscross .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 31, 2025, 08:59:50 am
Merch you seem to have similar Quality Issues as I do .I suppose we get in and out of the car more often so the rubbers around the door will wear more same for all the contact points like seats and fittings .Im beginning to think with the lack of repair shope that the EV car model is similar to the Apple Phone not really meant to be repaired but designed for obsolescence then we are brand branded and buy the next model .The lad with the stolen car has been told they are waiting on a Rain Censor for the Wiper .Sounds like bolloxology .A rain Censor would be on the outside of the cabin where no damage was done .7 weeks and counting .Tesla have no real back up or service .You book a Ranger in a Diesel Van to come to your gaff to do any repairs .The Chinease motors probably have no training manuels for Spanner Monkies .Big Dommos Sister is handy with a Monkey Wrench but she struggles to get a few quid out of the Hole in the Wall .You probably need to know more about Clrt/Ait/Delete to fix a car now than a 10 spanner and half a Gallon of Castrol GTX .Lads with beer bellies not going to bother to learn that computer stuff at their time of life .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 31, 2025, 09:42:08 am
A lot of the rubber parts on the Chinese cars are made to a price not for durability.Many parts are likely shared between Chinese companies.They're using some vegan leatherette in my yoke and it looks and feels lovely and premium but it's not made for taxi use.It's like they got a load of knock off hand bag material to cover the seats.

I paid relatively small money for the car.It hasn't left me stranded once so these are just annoyances mostly.I still want a Toyota even though there are a lot less toys and gadgets.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on July 31, 2025, 10:09:28 am
Not sure but I've made my bed either way.

I guess there's still an outside chance of a reprieve for 2016 cars... Punter reported that it was mentioned in a TAC meeting. Probably a long shot but I would be properly pissed off if such an extension materialised after I'd bought an EV nua and scrapped a 2016 reg in showroom condition. Conversely, I don't think I'll be overly annoyed if I end up having to settle for a second hand diesel or hybrid.
I have often stated the criteria to get the 20K EV NTA grant, and it has always in my thinking being;
1; Have an old car ready fer the scrappage grant.
2; Have a home driveway available to secure a home charger.
3; Have a spouse with an ICE car fer emergencies.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: watty on July 31, 2025, 11:03:10 am
@ MfH - just to confirm (my dodgy memory).  You're BYD? 

And it looks like MSL gets to join the naughty list of garages that don't care too much about aftersales.  And like you said, we'll tell all our passengers...  I think I remember someone did a study and on average, you tell 7 people about a bad experience and only 1 or 2 about a good experience.  So the garages are shooting themselves in the foot re future sales.

Seems to be a theme emerging.  EV's are lovely to drive but built to a price so durability is an issue.  And the garages don't give a fukk once they have your money. 

Be interesting to see what the Toyota XYZ is like after a year or two of taxi service?  Will it be the replacement Carina/Avensis?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 31, 2025, 11:30:50 am
Yes Watty I've got the BYD.I've never had a car that gets so many compliments but it's not made of the materials for continuous use like the Toyota.If Toyota aftersales is better it's probably only because the cars are better quality and rarely go back to the workshop.

I'm seeing alot of BZ4X as taxis now that the prices are more reasonable.If I got one I wouldn't be sticking to their stringent service intervals but I'm cheap like that and I can usually do my own work.

About the BZ4X being the new Carina/Camry I think there are too many drivers who can't charge at home.The Corrolla and for the wealthy like Bob S. the Camry will be the car of choice for those who need to put big hours in.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2025, 12:36:13 pm
When you went through MD the time limit was 3 months not 2 as it is now, erm. Also there was plenty of money available so you could run out of time and apply again so time wasn't an issue. Anywaysanall, on your advice, I rang NTA before ringing the decider in terms of car availability again yesterday to re-clarify what I had already clarified. I'll update that in the relevant thread in due course.

If I had read your post yesterday, Wingnut, I think I would have said fuck it you're right and just bought the BZ4X when the ID4 Pro wasn't available. As I said for me it was a very close second and definitely would have come ahead of an ID4 Pro Plus. I should've been a bit more diligent in test driving it like taking the time to adjust the seat and such like. I think there might have been a subconscious leaning towards the ID4 because I've driven Skodas since 2004. In fact, a lot of drivers who know what they're talking about (and Octy!) have come down in favour of the Toyota so that's something I'll definitely take on board should I get a grant offer next year.

I would reiterate Mercs advice on haggling... you mightn't get anywhere where stock is in short supply but it won't add anything on to the price. In fact the last Saturday that I worked late my second last job was a car full of salemen from a main dealer. The lads in the back were discussing targets and bonuses and such like which prompted the slightly older - but still very young - man in the front to tell me that the best time to buy a car is in the last few days of a month as it's likely that one or more of the salesmen will need the sale to achieve his target so if there's a deal to be done that's when you'll get the best of it.

I haven't changed a gearbox in a serving taxi since I had the 1994 Astra, Octy. I changed the box in Gretta (our new name for the MKII since she failed the National Car Test on emissions for the first time in her life this year) recently and thoroughly enjoyed it. There was no rush as the younger not so young lad's Yaris hybrid was available at the time so I ordered her a brand new clutch from Poland and stretched what was actually a few hours spannering into a project spanning a couple of weeks. I did need to employ the brawn of the older not so young lad for an hour or so to lift the once new box in. Typical of not so young lads these days he wouldn't class himself as a practical man but managed to fane interest in my explaining how a clutch works. Anywaysanall, the MKIII box (being a DSG) is twice the weight of Gretta's cute little gearbox so would probably be beyond my DIY capabilities. In that respect the lunacy of Govt regulations is potentially doing me a favour in requiring Gretta to keep smoking up the ozone layer in favour of scrapping the EURO VI MKIII. Gretta has no expensive DPF and a cute little manual gearbox that can be changed for less than the price of an EV tyre whereas the MKIII could get a lot more expensive to maintain with age. Interestingly, 12,000 kilos later, Gretta's new solid flywheel clutch conversion is still light as a feather. Any time I've had a dual mass flywheel replaced the pedal has gone heavy within a few hundred kilos. I looked it up on the VAG interactive manual thing I had a pirate copy of years ago and the solution was advise customer that it's normal.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2025, 12:56:11 pm
On the subject of Toyota servicing I don't think I mentioned the wonderful workshop in the Toyota garage we visited on Tuesday. One can sip a complimentary coffee while viewing tens of cars being meticulously (and probably needlessly) serviced through the viewing window, a bit like some of the NCTS centres. It was most enjoyable watching skilled mechanics in an almost clinical environment teaching the apprentices how to drop a spanner from a height without damaging it.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2025, 01:58:16 pm
On the subject of Toyota servicing I don't think I mentioned the wonderful workshop in the Toyota garage we visited on Tuesday. One can sip a complimentary coffee while viewing tens of cars being meticulously (and probably needlessly) serviced through the viewing window, a bit like some of the NCTS centres. It was most enjoyable watching skilled mechanics in an almost clinical environment teaching the apprentices how to drop a spanner from a height without damaging it.

"In fact, a lot of drivers who know what they're talking about (and Octy!)"

Wats that supposed to mean ya bollixes  >:(

Ive changed more gearboxes than yu ya bollixes ....
Anyway I dont want to know antin anymore or crawl under  shite boxes .... fillin the window washer bottle is all ill do ...
Anyway ya sldid ask all the " experts " on here an i told ya go Toyota... an i gave ya very good reasons ... yur not gettin any yunger ... time is precious ...plus yu will get 10 yers out of a Toyota most likely wit very little goin wrong ... that few extra bob ya pay mute be a great investment in peace of mind plus less time off the road plus more time walkin the beach wit the luv o yur life ....
Suit yurself


 ::sleep
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2025, 02:13:43 pm
Well, you did complain that you don't find your Prius comfortable. When we're spending 20+ hours a week 40+ weeks a year in the car it needs to be reasonably comfortable.

I did say to Ken a while back that in the case of a hybrid I wouldn't look any further than a Toyota. For a diesel I wouldn't look further than a VAG. For an EV I think I know a bit more now than I did then and I'm somewhere between a Toyota and a VW. I'm hoping I'll get another grant offer when I really have to change the car next year. In that case I won't spend much time deciding what to buy but price/availability will inevitably be a factor. None of us know what might be available at what price in 7 months time.

Toyotas are a lot more needy than other brands when it comes to servicing so if I end up with a second hand hybrid I'd actually be doing more servicing than I've ever had to do with my Skodas, at least during their taxi life. Having said that, I have serviced the younger no so young lad's Yaris and it is a pleasure to work on... more stuff to do with spark plugs, I guess, but actually doing it is very straightforward. No undershield, a 1940s canister style oil filter, an air filter held in by 2 clips (as opposed to c.12 screws for a VAG)... the whole lot takes no more than 27 minutes... to be fair, it'd be almost rude not to change the air filter at every service given how simple it is.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on July 31, 2025, 02:28:23 pm
What was the Story Did the Civil Servant with the Leitrim Accent confirm what the Public Servant with the West Cork accent told you about time limited grants or did they refer you back to the switchboard ?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2025, 02:45:07 pm
Well, you did complain that you don't find your Prius comfortable. When we're spending 20+ hours a week 40+ weeks a year in the car it needs to be reasonably comfortable.

I did say to Ken a while back that in the case of a hybrid I wouldn't look any further than a Toyota. For a diesel I wouldn't look further than a VAG. For an EV I think I know a bit more now than I did then and I'm somewhere between a Toyota and a VW. I'm hoping I'll get another grant offer when I really have to change the car next year. In that case I won't spend much time deciding what to buy but price/availability will inevitably be a factor. None of us know what might be available at what price in 7 months time.

Toyotas are a lot more needy than other brands when it comes to servicing so if I end up with a second hand hybrid I'd actually be doing more servicing than I've ever had to do with my Skodas, at least during their taxi life. Having said that, I have serviced the younger no so young lad's Yaris and it is a pleasure to work on... more stuff to do with spark plugs, I guess, but actually doing it is very straightforward. No undershield, a 1940s canister style oil filter, an air filter held in by 2 clips (as opposed to c.12 screws for a VAG)... the whole lot takes no more than 27 minutes... to be fair, it'd be almost rude not to change the air filter at every service given how simple it is.
"
Toyotas are a lot more needy than other brands when it comes to servicing so if I end up with a second hand hybrid I'd actually be doing more servicing than I've ever had to do with my Skodas,"

We've had this argument before rat ... an im more qualified than you cause ive owned both the octavia an the prius an your completely wrong on this by a country mile ....
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2025, 02:49:46 pm
The prius isnt as comfortable as the octavi ... thats very true ... its its only drawback
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2025, 02:52:04 pm
Havnt said that im a lanky fuk ... hu mite be alright  lol
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Wingnut on July 31, 2025, 03:23:18 pm
I had a Prius and now have the Bz, the comfort in the Bz is on a different level. Me back used to be in bits driving the prius but not a problem since I bought the Bz and even find myself doing extra hours. Loads of room in the Bz too, can't really compare the two in fairness.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2025, 04:13:44 pm
You've consistently refused to tell us what your Prius has cost you to maintain, Octy. I've posted the maintenance records for both Gretta and the MKIII Octys on several occasions... but, on a very basic level, the Prius wants an oil change every 15k kilos whereas the Octavia is every 25-30k kilos but I do it every 20k. You don't need to be a genius to work out that you'll be changing the oil in a car every 15k kilos more often than every 20k kilos.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2025, 04:14:56 pm
What was the Story Did the Civil Servant with the Leitrim Accent confirm what the Public Servant with the West Cork accent told you about time limited grants or did they refer you back to the switchboard ?

Neither had Irish accents but I've posted the detail in the relevant thread.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2025, 04:57:49 pm
You've consistently refused to tell us what your Prius has cost you to maintain, Octy. I've posted the maintenance records for both Gretta and the MKIII Octys on several occasions... but, on a very basic level, the Prius wants an oil change every 15k kilos whereas the Octavia is every 25-30k kilos but I do it every 20k. You don't need to be a genius to work out that you'll be changing the oil in a car every 15k kilos more often than every 20k kilos.

Ive seen yur maintenance spread sheets or watever yu accountants call them  ratti an they are indeed ocd .... we've been tru all this as I said before
An the prius maintenance is  way cheaper ....  jus to remind ya wat i told ya ...I changed me brake pads on the front cople months ago  for the first time since new an ther was half the meat still left in them  ... I rekon i changed the discs on me octavia bout 6 -7  times an im a very focus thermodynamically educated programmed driver that knows how to drive .... flywheels blown up... 3 ...timing belts , alternators ,starters ... at least a 100 headlight bulbs ... mine didn't have a dpf filter tank fuk or ide be off the road half the time like other blokes that have gave out  fuk bout them ...oh an a set of suspension springs that wasny cheap an probly load other stiff I forget
An i dont know who told ya  30,000 for an oil change but I used to change me oil every 10k kilometres....
It doesnt matter if you put  aldi oil init  or long life oil made of queen bee fanny juice from the himalayas.... the shit that goes inta the engine oil in a diesel is both the same amount of shit .... an its the shit in the oil that wears an engine .... yea skoda mite tell ya to go 30 k but its horse shoite ... anyway I tink yur nit pickin again ... octavias are last century technology .... filty dirty bastardin heaps of shoite ...
https://www.skoda.ie/owners/servicing-minor-service (https://www.skoda.ie/owners/servicing-minor-service)


 ::fds
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2025, 05:40:58 pm
That's the fixed service schedule version. The VIN stickers of all 3 of my Octys specified variable service. The dealer changed it programmatically to fixed for the MKI but Gretta and the MKIII were programmed to match the spec on the VIN sticker. Once you change the oil the car tells you when it wants it done again. I always done both at 20,000 kilos and generally reset it but I let the MKIII run on once and it asked for oil somewhere between 25,000 kilos and 30,000 kilos, I can't remember the figure now but it didn't get to the specified maximum of 30,000 kilos. However, I have reduced it lately to every 15,000 kilos because it's regenerating the DPF far too frequently and I read on one of the fora that can cause the oil to get diluted with diesel. Greta has always been done on 20k intervals and doesn't consume more than 0.27L between services. The MKIII does consume oil and always has, probably over 2L between services, that's probably down to the heat required to regenerate the DPF, seemingly all VAGs with DPFs consume a bit.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2025, 05:49:18 pm
Ide say the oil be like tar at 30k ... black as .... well tar ...  lol
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2025, 05:53:54 pm
If it gets to 30k... like I said when I let the MKIII counter run on it didn't get that far but once your service code is QG1 for the MKII and QI6 for the MKIII (I suspect all Irish/UK ones are) you can leave it until it asks for oil, I think it asks 1,000 kilos in advance but the dashboard display will tell you anyway.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2025, 06:22:01 pm
If it gets to 30k... like I said when I let the MKIII counter run on it didn't get that far but once your service code is QG1 for the MKII and QI6 for the MKIII (I suspect all Irish/UK ones are) you can leave it until it asks for oil, I think it asks 1,000 kilos in advance but the dashboard display will tell you anyway.

Anyway wer gone off topic talkin bout
Antiques ...
Not an easy choice ... but if ya have the money .....
Not sure wer the world is goin but I rekon this taxi business be bollixed sooner rather than later ...
I wont be buyin antin wen me prius is up ..... country is doomed

 ::sleep
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2025, 06:25:14 pm
Once I have the car paid for I won't give a bollix... I'm good at doing fuckall and I enjoy it.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2025, 06:33:20 pm
I guess, all other things being equal, that's where the EV would come into it's own i.e. if there's no work it's quite likely to last the full 10 years allowed by regulation. If I don't get a grant next year the same money (as an MG, anyway) will most likely only buy a 5yo car which would only be licensable for another 5 years.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Bob Shillin on July 31, 2025, 06:34:20 pm
"the wealthy like Bob S.", Ah that's a cracker, I'ld be reasonably sure that I'm the only one on here who doesn't own a home.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2025, 06:59:23 pm
You've probably paid more for cars than some on here paid for gaffs.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2025, 07:05:13 pm
https://www.icartea.com/en/news/toyota-and-subaru-12-volt-battery-crisis-plagues-their-electric-vehicles (https://www.icartea.com/en/news/toyota-and-subaru-12-volt-battery-crisis-plagues-their-electric-vehicles)

Not sure if its just America rat but
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on July 31, 2025, 07:22:12 pm
https://zecar.com/resources/common-byd-atto-3-problems

Actually ive bean doin a goggles... an 12v battery problems seem to be a ting on all electric cars includin the id4 but more reportin on ID 3 ...
Mad stuff in the 21st century

 ::sleep
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 31, 2025, 11:15:27 pm
The only person I've heard of having a problem with a 12V battery in an EV was Hal (BYD) but I think that was just a simple replacement.

Mad in technological terms, perhaps... but, in reality, the whole EV thing is a bit mad, Ted. Inter cert physics tells us that moving more weight requires more energy. Does the proportion of electricity we generate from renewables even compensate for the extra energy an EV requires? Then there's the environmental cost of mineral extraction, manufacture, shipping, scrapping more energy efficient (i.e. lighter) petrol and diesel cars, etc....

Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 02, 2025, 11:20:39 am
The only person I've heard of having a problem with a 12V battery in an EV was Hal (BYD) but I think that was just a simple replacement.

Mad in technological terms, perhaps... but, in reality, the whole EV thing is a bit mad, Ted. Inter cert physics tells us that moving more weight requires more energy. Does the proportion of electricity we generate from renewables even compensate for the extra energy an EV requires? Then there's the environmental cost of mineral extraction, manufacture, shipping, scrapping more energy efficient (i.e. lighter) petrol and diesel cars, etc....

"Does the proportion of electricity we generate from renewables even compensate for the extra energy an EV requires?"

Yes ... the energy harvested from inertia an gravity  tru  deceleration is all down to or  dependent on mass or weight ... the heavier the vehicle the more energy is harvested from degenerative brakin .... tho I prefer to say degenerative deceleration because any braking is a 100% energy conversion to heat ( 1st law of thermodynamics) .
To explain it in taxi driver terms ... if yur ev weighed nuttin an you inside  weighed nuttin ( i know thats a stretch of the imagination but bare wit me  lol) wer driving it an yu  took yur foot off the accelerator.... you wud come to a immediate stop with out braking .... like as if you hit a brick wall sort o ting ....the energy saved tru degenerative/ deceleration  is dependent on 2 tings ..... the apes drivin style .... an the mechanical efficiency of the yoke yur drivin ... an as we all know mechanical efficiency can never achieve 100% which is why perpetual motion is impossible....
Now... any questions ?

 ::sleep
 
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 02, 2025, 12:57:38 pm
The reality of Trumpenomics .There is a hard bollock kicking on the way .Talking to more Electricians working the Data Centers and PFizer extension in Grange Castle more of them told no work after two week builders holidays .The well paid jobs are beginning to scale back .The revenue from Drugs sales will be down the next few years ,The knock on effect on Gargle sales .£.50 paper cups of Coffee Breakfast Rolls will be noticable a lot of low waged jobs going to be wiped out add in AI for picking and delivering .Not sure now is the time to be borrowing big coin to invest in ANY business .

There is another thing Europe has to buy more Stuff of the USA only thing they have we want or need is Gas or Oil .The whole Green Agenda could get kicked into touch .Will there be the same urgency and Grants available next year .

This is a head wrecker .Is now the time to invest ?Will there be enough Work to cover extra costs ? Will there be future Grants ?Think the Rodents Logic is wait and see we might get another age extension .If there are grants then rethink an EV if there are no grants .You have options to reflect the actual market in two years time .

Plus this EV stuff seems to be getting better cleverer every 6 months .Still no right or Wrong Answer to whats the right next move .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 02, 2025, 01:08:05 pm
There's no other choice..... other than leave the taxi job.You either rent or yo you buy more expensive equipment to stay in the game.There is no cheap alternative except do nothing and eventually your vehicle will be too old.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 02, 2025, 01:10:56 pm
" Not sure now is the time to be borrowing big coin to invest in ANY business"  .

Agree wit ya johnny
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 02, 2025, 01:19:49 pm
Much is a prius 5 yer old yoke ? 15k so in another 5 yers another second hand yoke be 25 grand with the inflation thats comin .... rat sez he has the cash now so no loan .... even of he leaves the business hes goin need a car an can use it  ... maybe buy the new Toyota .... the question ide be asking meself is do I need a loan .... im never takin a loan out again ... I dont want the banks havin a hold over me an I wont have any cash in 2. 5 yers wen I need a replacement ...
I rekon in 2.5 yers time  the business wont be there ...
Time to retire an go fishin ...

 ::sleep
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 02, 2025, 01:36:26 pm
OCCI This is MY OPINION .I dont think the 20K will be available next year .I think it will be cut .Probably with the Scrappage element removed .They seem to have changed their minds on getting old smokers out of the Fleet bu extending the Death Sentence Date .In an Economy heading for the Crash Barriers subsidising Taxis might not be to the Fore .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Bob Shillin on August 02, 2025, 01:59:31 pm
You've probably paid more for cars than some on here paid for gaffs.
Personal priorities, if I'm going to own only one car it's important that it's a good one. if I subtract the cost of 4 cars from my takings over my 22 years I'm happy with the difference, and that doesn't take into account non work driving. If I wasn't prone to the occasional accident the return on investment would have been even better. As someone who doesn't begrudge mechanics mechanics their due I like to have a reliable yoke.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 02, 2025, 02:00:43 pm
OCCI This is MY OPINION .I dont think the 20K will be available next year .I think it will be cut .Probably with the Scrappage element removed .They seem to have changed their minds on getting old smokers out of the Fleet bu extending the Death Sentence Date .In an Economy heading for the Crash Barriers subsidising Taxis might not be to the Fore .

Very true johnny ... the grant was only ever an incentive to switch to green ... wen green is the new normal all incentives will be removed ide imagine if im tinkin logically but electric ain't cheap ... watll happen wen the grants go ?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 02, 2025, 03:23:09 pm
https://youtu.be/pLTT5q_7om4?si=ERUsjusPNTMCC_ou

OK its American but
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 03, 2025, 12:52:09 pm
Much is a prius 5 yer old yoke ? 15k so in another 5 yers another second hand yoke be 25 grand with the inflation thats comin .... rat sez he has the cash now so no loan .... even of he leaves the business hes goin need a car an can use it  ... maybe buy the new Toyota .... the question ide be asking meself is do I need a loan .... im never takin a loan out again ... I dont want the banks havin a hold over me an I wont have any cash in 2. 5 yers wen I need a replacement ...
I rekon in 2.5 yers time  the business wont be there ...
Time to retire an go fishin ...

 ::sleep

A 5yo Prius (with under or around 100,000 kilos on the clock) for €15k would be a bargain. I looked at Corolla prices... you might get a 3-5yo one with low kilometreage for c.€18k all in if you import it from Japan but you'd most likely have to change the rear door glass and the wireless and would definitely have to change the tyres. A higher kilometreage 5yo sourced locally would be around 22k. A 5yo diesel Octavia would be around 25k. When you look at the 5yo prices they're more than half the price of the new model so you're paying more than buying new on a per annum basis... which makes no sense to me but I can't really afford or justify spending the price of a new car other than an EV after grant aid.

I've never borrowed for a car and don't intend to. If there's grants available next year and I get an offer when I need it I will have to borrow at least some of the €20,000 we get back but I'm fortunate enough to have a choice of reasonably generous siblings/offspring/parents who wouldn't miss 20 large for a month or two.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 03, 2025, 12:54:53 pm
DACIA DUSTER  Dirth Cheap will do the Job .New one for the price of Part worn something else .Badge Snobbery .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 03, 2025, 01:02:56 pm
You've probably paid more for cars than some on here paid for gaffs.
Personal priorities, if I'm going to own only one car it's important that it's a good one. if I subtract the cost of 4 cars from my takings over my 22 years I'm happy with the difference, and that doesn't take into account non work driving. If I wasn't prone to the occasional accident the return on investment would have been even better. As someone who doesn't begrudge mechanics mechanics their due I like to have a reliable yoke.

I don't begrudge mechanics their hard earned, if that's what you're suggesting? As per service records posted on here I've paid mechanics to service/repair my serving taxis over the years on many occasions including main dealers, well Gretta got a timing belt from a main dealer back in her taxi days. When it comes to relatively simple stuff like an oil change or brake pads/discs/suspension bits/wheel bearings/etc the main reason I'd usually (not always) opt to DIY is down to the time and effort required to leave it in and collect it -vs- (generally) under an hour before showering to do it. Also, getting close to my exact schedule for oil changes is much easier when I do it myself as I don't have to try to predict whether and to what extent I might work ahead of making a booking with a mechanic / main stealership.

Having said that, I would begrudge Toyota stealerships the money to "service" an EV every 15k kilos given that the equivalent VW has a 2yr unlimited mileage service interval... and Octy tells us Toyotas aren't needy!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 03, 2025, 01:06:07 pm
DACIA DUSTER  Dirth Cheap will do the Job .New one for the price of Part worn something else .Badge Snobbery .

Wouldn't buy it with your money.... I wouldn't taxi a Renault so definitely wouldn't taxi a Dacia. An old drinking acquaintance was the service manager of a Nissan stealership years ago. When Renault acquired Nissan he said he'd never converse with me again if I ever bought one.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 03, 2025, 01:24:11 pm
The only person I've heard of having a problem with a 12V battery in an EV was Hal (BYD) but I think that was just a simple replacement.

Mad in technological terms, perhaps... but, in reality, the whole EV thing is a bit mad, Ted. Inter cert physics tells us that moving more weight requires more energy. Does the proportion of electricity we generate from renewables even compensate for the extra energy an EV requires? Then there's the environmental cost of mineral extraction, manufacture, shipping, scrapping more energy efficient (i.e. lighter) petrol and diesel cars, etc....

"Does the proportion of electricity we generate from renewables even compensate for the extra energy an EV requires?"

Yes ... the energy harvested from inertia an gravity  tru  deceleration is all down to or  dependent on mass or weight ... the heavier the vehicle the more energy is harvested from degenerative brakin .... tho I prefer to say degenerative deceleration because any braking is a 100% energy conversion to heat ( 1st law of thermodynamics) .
To explain it in taxi driver terms ... if yur ev weighed nuttin an you inside  weighed nuttin ( i know thats a stretch of the imagination but bare wit me  lol) wer driving it an yu  took yur foot off the accelerator.... you wud come to a immediate stop with out braking .... like as if you hit a brick wall sort o ting ....the energy saved tru degenerative/ deceleration  is dependent on 2 tings ..... the apes drivin style .... an the mechanical efficiency of the yoke yur drivin ... an as we all know mechanical efficiency can never achieve 100% which is why perpetual motion is impossible....
Now... any questions ?

 ::sleep
 

I guess we have to go back to primary school science to remember that you can't get more energy out than you put in. Hybrids (and presumably EVs) are good at recovering some of the extra energy they consume through regenerative braking and such like but they're not manufacturing free energy. A good example might be recovering energy going downhill but it's not going to recover more than the extra energy (compared to a petrol or diesel car) it took to get up the hill in the first place. Where hybrids come into their own is in Urban centres when they don't need to either keep the engine running or constantly stop and start it.

When SB said he'd buy me a lottery ticket a while back I had a look at the price / specs of new Octavias. As far as I recall the diesel (manual transmission) version achieves (albeit marginally) better mpg than the hybrid version. Stealership figures are based on "mixed" driving so it's likely that the hybrid would be better in an urban environment and certain that the diesel would be significantly better on the open road / motorways. When I bought my MKIII I had a look at the Prius. It's published mpg figures were higher than what I was getting from Gretta hence I concluded that all that extra technology was pointless for me.... although, I opted for the DSG Octavia in the end which also consumes slightly more diesel than Gretta! Ifn SB ever buys me said lottery ticket and if it won I'd still buy a new diesel Octavia or maybe (ifn it's a particularly high jackpot) a new diesel Superb.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 03, 2025, 03:42:12 pm
The only person I've heard of having a problem with a 12V battery in an EV was Hal (BYD) but I think that was just a simple replacement.

Mad in technological terms, perhaps... but, in reality, the whole EV thing is a bit mad, Ted. Inter cert physics tells us that moving more weight requires more energy. Does the proportion of electricity we generate from renewables even compensate for the extra energy an EV requires? Then there's the environmental cost of mineral extraction, manufacture, shipping, scrapping more energy efficient (i.e. lighter) petrol and diesel cars, etc....

"Does the proportion of electricity we generate from renewables even compensate for the extra energy an EV requires?"

Yes ... the energy harvested from inertia an gravity  tru  deceleration is all down to or  dependent on mass or weight ... the heavier the vehicle the more energy is harvested from degenerative brakin .... tho I prefer to say degenerative deceleration because any braking is a 100% energy conversion to heat ( 1st law of thermodynamics) .
To explain it in taxi driver terms ... if yur ev weighed nuttin an you inside  weighed nuttin ( i know thats a stretch of the imagination but bare wit me  lol) wer driving it an yu  took yur foot off the accelerator.... you wud come to a immediate stop with out braking .... like as if you hit a brick wall sort o ting ....the energy saved tru degenerative/ deceleration  is dependent on 2 tings ..... the apes drivin style .... an the mechanical efficiency of the yoke yur drivin ... an as we all know mechanical efficiency can never achieve 100% which is why perpetual motion is impossible....
Now... any questions ?

 ::sleep
 

I guess we have to go back to primary school science to remember that you can't get more energy out than you put in. Hybrids (and presumably EVs) are good at recovering some of the extra energy they consume through regenerative braking and such like but they're not manufacturing free energy. A good example might be recovering energy going downhill but it's not going to recover more than the extra energy (compared to a petrol or diesel car) it took to get up the hill in the first place. Where hybrids come into their own is in Urban centres when they don't need to either keep the engine running or constantly stop and start it.

When SB said he'd buy me a lottery ticket a while back I had a look at the price / specs of new Octavias. As far as I recall the diesel (manual transmission) version achieves (albeit marginally) better mpg than the hybrid version. Stealership figures are based on "mixed" driving so it's likely that the hybrid would be better in an urban environment and certain that the diesel would be significantly better on the open road / motorways. When I bought my MKIII I had a look at the Prius. It's published mpg figures were higher than what I was getting from Gretta hence I concluded that all that extra technology was pointless for me.... although, I opted for the DSG Octavia in the end which also consumes slightly more diesel than Gretta! Ifn SB ever buys me said lottery ticket and if it won I'd still buy a new diesel Octavia or maybe (ifn it's a particularly high jackpot) a new diesel Superb.

Yuod be surprised how many dont understand basic  inter cert physics rat
"Does the proportion of electricity we generate from renewables even compensate for the extra energy an EV requires?"

Obviously if your driven a hybrid or ev  on the motorway all day at constant velocity ....energy harvestin/ regenerative deceleration ...as i like ta call it is  very limited an Obviously a diesel bein more efficient than a petrol engine will possibly do better .... but passengers live in city's not the motorway .... which is why ya drive there to work ... I tink yur confused a bit cause ya live down the bog an have to drive to civilisation to work ....
As for winnin the lotto you cud buy a diesel  cause ya wont be puttin a taxi roof sign onit an cartin the riff raff , workin class an junkies that ya normally carry round in yur taxi ....an ya wont be fixing it  in the shed neither up all nite havin the luv o yur life wonderin wen yur comin to bed


 ::sleep lol
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 03, 2025, 04:15:43 pm
I don't generally drive up to Dublin to work any more but I occasionally drive clients to the city or airport. Obviously that's on motorways.

However, when I did (and occasionally still do) work up above in Dublin I prefer(red) to work in the Northside suburbs. When I compared Greta's actual consumption figures with Toyota's published Prius consumption figures all those years ago that was my working methodology. I remember being suitably unimpressed and, in fact, I wondered if they were being unduly conservative or prudent. I did consider that somewhere there might be a failed bus mechanic who might know better than the manufacturer!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 03, 2025, 04:24:24 pm
DACIA DUSTER  Dirth Cheap will do the Job .New one for the price of Part worn something else .Badge Snobbery .

Wouldn't buy it with your money.... I wouldn't taxi a Renault so definitely wouldn't taxi a Dacia. An old drinking acquaintance was the service manager of a Nissan stealership years ago. When Renault acquired Nissan he said he'd never converse with me again if I ever bought one.
If ya hit a cat at 10 miles an hour with one them the cat wud survive ... youd be shoveled up off the road by the fire brigade .... youd be safer in a shoppin trolly

 ::sleep
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 03, 2025, 04:28:14 pm
I don't generally drive up to Dublin to work any more but I occasionally drive clients to the city or airport. Obviously that's on motorways.

However, when I did (and occasionally still do) work up above in Dublin I prefer(red) to work in the Northside suburbs. When I compared Greta's actual consumption figures with Toyota's published Prius consumption figures all those years ago that was my working methodology. I remember being suitably unimpressed and, in fact, I wondered if they were being unduly conservative or prudent. I did consider that somewhere there might be a failed bus mechanic who might know better than the manufacturer!

A spine  failed mechanic ya failed accountant bollixes  lol
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 03, 2025, 04:32:05 pm
I can still compute that there's only six winners on a six horse accumulator between me and a new diesel Skoda!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 03, 2025, 04:34:58 pm
Anyway the irony of ya callin yur fumes spewing planet killer greta after the famous  green warrior activist .... how dare yu .... I dont know how ya live with  all the babies yu gave  asthma an autism to ....how do ya sleep at nite ?

Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 03, 2025, 04:38:57 pm

(https://i.postimg.cc/SsRm1TQJ/istockphoto-1176237650-612x612.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Ah look at his little face .... poor ting
 ::fds
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 03, 2025, 04:41:58 pm
Picking a female name seemed concurrent with colloquialism. However, I was a passenger in Gretta recently and I'm sure she revved a bit harder when there was an EV behind... Like she was telling us that behind that driver's smug smile lies a pair of carbon choked lungs. In the words of the late Taoiseach, Albert Reynolds RIP, that's women for ya.

I was gonna ask you to design a bumper sticker for her. Something along the lines of her name on clouds of black smoke?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 03, 2025, 04:44:39 pm
Picking a female name seemed concurrent with colloquialism. However, I was a passenger in Gretta recently and I'm sure she revved a bit harder when there was an EV behind... Like she was telling us that behind that driver's smug smile lies a pair of carbon choked lungs. In the words of the late Taoiseach, Albert Reynolds RIP, that's women for ya.

I was gonna ask you to design a bumper sticker for her. Something along the lines of her name on clouds of black smoke?
(https://i.postimg.cc/vTp9Zx2t/s-l1200.webp) (https://postimages.org/)


Wen ya win the lotto ya can buy few thousand of these an hand them out at the combe
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 04, 2025, 08:25:19 am
"the wealthy like Bob S.", Ah that's a cracker, I'ld be reasonably sure that I'm the only one on here who doesn't own a home.
You do own a home, you just don't live in it !!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 04, 2025, 08:38:46 am
DACIA DUSTER  Dirth Cheap will do the Job .New one for the price of Part worn something else .Badge Snobbery .
Not quite Dirt Cheap anymore, I had a peep at one in person last year with a mate after he sussed they were only 26k new, that 26k soon turned in to 33k once we were in the show room.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 04, 2025, 10:20:35 am
.. .... Anyway I dont want to know antin anymore or crawl under  shite boxes .... fillin the window washer bottle is all ill do ... ...
If memory serves even filling a Window Washer bottle is too complicated fer some and they add Washing up liquid to the water which Fooks up the Rubbers on their wiper blades, and then they come on here looking fer assistance as to why and how to fix Fooked wiper blades.
 rofl
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Bob Shillin on August 04, 2025, 12:52:16 pm
"the wealthy like Bob S.", Ah that's a cracker, I'ld be reasonably sure that I'm the only one on here who doesn't own a home.
You do own a home, you just don't live in it !!
How do you figure that, because it aint true.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 04, 2025, 02:41:25 pm
Re - Greta - Bull! 8)
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 05, 2025, 04:48:35 am
"the wealthy like Bob S.", Ah that's a cracker, I'ld be reasonably sure that I'm the only one on here who doesn't own a home.
You do own a home, you just don't live in it !!
How do you figure that, because it aint true.
Sorry Harry, I thought you were in the same boat as me.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 08:39:59 am
Did you buy the flat, Ken?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 05, 2025, 09:12:18 am
Did you buy the flat, Ken?
No, but I still part-own the home my ex lives in !  ::fds
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 09:15:46 am
So you don't own your home (which is what BS said in respect of his circumstance)... you own a house that is someone else's home!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 05, 2025, 10:14:33 am
All Camry owners look wealthy to me Anyone who can afford 50k+ with no grants is doing alright.Not jealous just an observation.I would'nt mind a Camry myself..
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 05, 2025, 11:02:45 am
Bob probably has fancy pants premium tyres on his Camry too..no ling longs for Bob S...Gold chains,real Ray bans etc etc..
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 11:11:41 am
I'd say Ken's next motor will be a Camry... can't imagine a man of his stature slumming it in a Corolla!

Mind you, if your car's your office Tesla is the only choice... you'd get a small water cooler in the fruit and maybe a fax machine under the passenger seat. Ifn you car's your toolbox the MG would be the obvious choice. I think I aspire to be somewhere in between e.g. an ID4 or BZ4X!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Bob Shillin on August 05, 2025, 11:20:10 am
Have the shop, in which I traded for 13 years leased out, and the rent from that pays the rent, with a small surplus after tax, on an apartment, which I rent from my daughter for €2k per month which pays her mortgage on it. That shop, if sold at book value, i.e. 10 years rent would not buy a 1 bed apartment in Dublin in any area in which I would choose to live. Also the business that rents it from me owns the adjoining shop, and the 2 shops are joined together to make one business which probably would not give me many options for selling. The cash I had left after my second divorce, when invested in stocks, grew enough after 5 years to allow me to profit take €20k towards the €46k I paid for the Camry, and the balance I had saved in the credit union over the last 20 years.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 11:24:04 am
All Camry owners look wealthy to me Anyone who can afford 50k+ with no grants is doing alright.Not jealous just an observation.I would'nt mind a Camry myself..

To be fair, you weren't wrong!

Nice one, BS. Clever way of spreading the wealth IMO.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 05, 2025, 11:52:56 am
I knew it!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Bob Shillin on August 05, 2025, 12:15:59 pm
I regard it as a reasonable survival,  but a long way from how I once saw life after 65. I figure that I will need to drive a cab until I can't, to earn at least €45k pa before tax to have any quality to living. Like all of us, fingers, and toes are crossed  regarding health at my current age of 72. For any issues regarding my situation I fully accept full responsibility.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 12:25:28 pm
If a 72yo pensioner can trouser 45k/year outta driving a cab I don't know what my excuse for earning fuckall is... Well, I do... I'm lazy. But it'd certainly make one wonder when one reads self pitying posts claiming not being able to turnover a score an hour.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Bob Shillin on August 05, 2025, 12:47:43 pm
All Camry owners look wealthy to me Anyone who can afford 50k+ with no grants is doing alright.Not jealous just an observation.I would'nt mind a Camry myself..

To be fair, you weren't wrong!

Nice one, BS. Clever way of spreading the wealth IMO.
My daughter could probably get another €600 - €700 per month in the current market for this 2 bed apt. It's great to have the 2nd bedroom when my other daughter needs to leave Wickla to do stuff in the capital.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Bob Shillin on August 05, 2025, 12:51:42 pm
Actually RC, even though current rents are outrageous,  could one have  a BIK obligation for paying below market rent, or would family gifting allowance cover it?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 12:57:02 pm
I guess she knows it's going to be properly looked after and it's keeping her old man out of a cardboard box! Anywaysanall, how much did it cost you to keep a roof over her head and educate her to a standard facilitating her acquiring sufficient wealth to become a slum landlord... A different upbringing and she could  be snorting cannabis and protesting about them immigrants making her homeless, I guess.

BIK doesn't apply to self employed. Could be a gift tax, not sure what the limits are..  also could be deemed to be at OMV for the purposes of her income tax obligations.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 01:05:42 pm
BTW, Don't quote me on any of that. I'm not good at that stuff anymore and what I might remember might well be outdated.

FFS, I'm one of only two drivers I know that pays VAT on Uber invoices!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 05, 2025, 01:18:47 pm
Im in the middle of a mid life crisis even tho im nearly 60 ... im done workin ... I aint lazy jus cant see the point anymore ... its gotten me nowhere... the house i baut was given to sumone else ... an me flat is taxed tu the hilt an if i tried sellin it it be 6 figures in tax ...i suppose if the fridge was empty I mite ger up off me arse .... but in the mean time .....


 :o  ::sleep
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 01:25:38 pm
G'way outta dat ya platinum licky lackey... Id say you do be working like the proverbial non-white skinned migrant.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 05, 2025, 01:50:57 pm
G'way outta dat ya platinum licky lackey... Id say you do be working like the proverbial non-white skinned migrant.

Im pullin in between 250 to 500 a week rat ... occasionally ill go over that ...
Ive so much contempt for money i get rid of it as soon as i get it an buy data blocks  that live somewhere  in the internet floatin around in cyberspace or somewhere...


If I was to seek financial advice now on how to get me act together.... I wudny be talkin to a financial adviser or an accountant.... ide sit in the pub wit the wasters I went to school wit who never worked a day in ther lives , live in the pub an the bookies ... an wobble home to ther council gaff wit a Chinese under ther arm ....
Wat an eegit i was ....

 ::sleep
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 02:01:04 pm
Not dissimilar to what I earn when I work... but I can go weeks without doing a tap... not wasting the good weather was my excuse for much of this year!

But as BS alludes to, none of us are getting any younger. You don't see "I wish I'd spent more time in the cab" on many headstones.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 05, 2025, 02:24:11 pm
Not dissimilar to what I earn when I work... but I can go weeks without doing a tap... not wasting the good weather was my excuse for much of this year!

But as BS alludes to, none of us are getting any younger. You don't see "I wish I'd spent more time in the cab" on many headstones.

Thats wer me head is at ... it probly doesnt help watchin me ma an da go downhill every day knowin thats ahead for meself one day ... the stark reality of life an death an above all the ting thats worth most ..... TIME ..
I tink if ya own antin other than yur gaff yur livin in its a big mistake .... I recently applied for sumtin important
an the oirish government told me to " fuk off ya rich bastard"   " yur rentin yur gaff out ... now they didn't ask me bout antin else .... but I realised im barred from most benifits or assistance in society .... even tho im pretty sure im earnin alot less than most taxi drivers an probly the immigrants lidls .....
Im not sure if bob has to work as hard as he does ...owning a  premises  other than yur gaff may not be a good ting if an wen the time comes to retire .... forced or otherwise... in fact it may be a huge liability
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 02:30:08 pm
I guess we could live healthier lives but that's boring and only prolonging the inevitable. Can't see what difference an extra 10/20/30 years might make. You could plan to do stuff you haven't done before but if you just do the stuff instead of planning to do it, it's done. Sure, when you're brown bread you won't miss not doing it either way!

Anywaysanall, this week is a good week for doing fuckall... even if the weather's bad there's the horse show and cricket on telly.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Bob Shillin on August 05, 2025, 04:38:56 pm
"Anywaysanall, how much did it cost you to keep a roof over her head and educate her to a standard facilitating her acquiring sufficient wealth to become a slum landlord"
It's a nice place, which she purchased on the council system not too long after she started working, I think it could be a 30 yr bank mortgage. She's 45 now, and 10 years married. Her husband had a house where they've lived since marriage.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 05:50:59 pm
Well, she managed to put a roof over her head anyway. You deserve some credit for that in my mind... as least insofar as I have no problem blaming the parents for much of the riff-raff (who feel entitled to a free life) that I've encountered over the years.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 05, 2025, 05:51:38 pm
Im in the middle of a mid life crisis even tho im nearly 60 ... im done workin ... I aint lazy jus cant see the point anymore ... its gotten me nowhere... the house i baut was given to sumone else ... an me flat is taxed tu the hilt an if i tried sellin it it be 6 figures in tax ...i suppose if the fridge was empty I mite ger up off me arse .... but in the mean time .....


 :o  ::sleep
How is that old damaged covid Taxi screen of yours getting on ?

I have my old FN covid screen here going a-begging, it is in perfect order but it has a FN sticker on it which could easily be removed with a birra WD40 and elbow grease.
If you want it then I will be in Zone 18 in Dooblin airport this Thursday morning at 5am to collect me Mum and you can have it.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 05, 2025, 05:54:47 pm
I'd say Ken's next motor will be a Camry... can't imagine a man of his stature slumming it in a Corolla! ....
Most likely a nua Skoda Octavia 1.4, 7 speed petrol in 2027, never going Diesel ever again.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 06:08:06 pm
Is the petrol a lot heavier on juice? The Skoda diesel would be a lot better than the Toyota yoke you had. The DPF is programmed to last c.300-320k kilos and (at least for the MKIII) it's nowhere near as costly as the Toyota one to replace. However, I have heard that the Adblue can kill the EGR valve or some related bit so you might be right, all this emissions stuff is making the diesel engine unduly complex. Having said that, if money was no object I'd buy the diesel Octavia. In fact if I was a euro or two behind you I might even stretch to the diesel Superb.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 05, 2025, 06:14:31 pm
Listening to the Big Orange Shite Pile threatening India for buying Russian Oil .It seems that India buys the Russian oil on the Cheap they then Refine it and sell the Diesel back to Europe as Indian Diesel not Russian .If the Shite Pile does put 10000000000000000000000.5% tarriffs on India will they stop buying the Russian Oil and where will Europe get Cheap Diesel ?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 06:20:39 pm
Wouldn't matter to a man with Ken's money. In fact, we all survived Meehaul Martin's first term as Taoiseach when diesel prices almost hit €2/litre. The saving grace for diesel is that road haulage is heavily reliant on it, I guess.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 05, 2025, 06:31:12 pm
Is the petrol a lot heavier on juice? The Skoda diesel would be a lot better than the Toyota yoke you had. The DPF is programmed to last c.300-320k kilos and (at least for the MKIII) it's nowhere near as costly as the Toyota one to replace. However, I have heard that the Adblue can kill the EGR valve or some related bit so you might be right, all this emissions stuff is making the diesel engine unduly complex. Having said that, if money was no object I'd buy the diesel Octavia. In fact if I was a euro or two behind you I might even stretch to the diesel Superb.
Those old DPF problems never went away, I don't post about it anymore as some were enjoying my misfortune too much, but there still ongoing, another 1.1k fer EGR problems last month and the DPF light came back on a week later.
Dont post any advice, I'm doing an Ostrich on this and will nurse it out fer the final 1.5 years till expiry in 2027.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 05, 2025, 06:40:16 pm
Is the petrol a lot heavier on juice? The Skoda diesel would be a lot better than the Toyota yoke you had. The DPF is programmed to last c.300-320k kilos and (at least for the MKIII) it's nowhere near as costly as the Toyota one to replace. However, I have heard that the Adblue can kill the EGR valve or some related bit so you might be right, all this emissions stuff is making the diesel engine unduly complex. Having said that, if money was no object I'd buy the diesel Octavia. In fact if I was a euro or two behind you I might even stretch to the diesel Superb.
Those old DPF problems never went away, I don't post about it anymore as some were enjoying my misfortune too much, but there still ongoing, another 1.1k fer EGR problems last month and the DPF light came back on a week later.
Dont post any advice, I'm doing an Ostrich on this and will nurse it out fer the final 1.5 years till expiry in 2027.

Why waste money fixing it .Just get the light turned off for the NCT and fill it with half a gallon of Dypatane .It will run on that burns clean for the test then fill it up with diesel later .No sense fixing the unfixable .At this stage its probably a touch of turbo as well as DPF .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 06:47:09 pm
I don't post advice as such, Ken... merely my own experience. The petrol -vs- diesel question is an interesting one. I did buy Mrs. Catcher a petrol Fabia (3 cylinder, probably 1.0 MPI) and the engine lasted 200k klios and had a new (albeit quite cheap) Catalytic Convertor around 180k. I'd expect the diesel DPF to be good for 300k. In a manual diesel the clutch will probably last 150k, in the DSG 300k. In short I'm not sure that I'd consider a VAG petrol for a taxi. If you intend doing more than 300k over the maximum 10 year ownership period the diesel mightn't be the best choice either. Like I say if money was no object I'd buy the DSG diesel expecting to be finished with it within 300k kilos i.e. when it starts to get expensive to maintain. I've taken a bit of a gamble with the MKIII in opting to keep it until next year as it has c.262k on it now and a new clutch would cost €1,700... I could end up doing a bullet but then, who knows, maybe there'll be an age extension for 2016 regs in which case I wouldn't be too put out by replacing the clutch.

You can't just turn the light off, erm or just programme the auto regens out of it. You have to get the thing drilled out as well. If you don't do both it'll likely go up in flames. Also, it's illegal to drive a diesel that's been so modified... but, strangely, not illegal to modify it. In the case of the VAG DPFs they're not that expensive so you might as well replace it if you intend keeping it for any length of time after it fills up.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 05, 2025, 06:48:22 pm
Is the petrol a lot heavier on juice? The Skoda diesel would be a lot better than the Toyota yoke you had. The DPF is programmed to last c.300-320k kilos and (at least for the MKIII) it's nowhere near as costly as the Toyota one to replace. However, I have heard that the Adblue can kill the EGR valve or some related bit so you might be right, all this emissions stuff is making the diesel engine unduly complex. Having said that, if money was no object I'd buy the diesel Octavia. In fact if I was a euro or two behind you I might even stretch to the diesel Superb.
Those old DPF problems never went away, I don't post about it anymore as some were enjoying my misfortune too much, but there still ongoing, another 1.1k fer EGR problems last month and the DPF light came back on a week later.
Dont post any advice, I'm doing an Ostrich on this and will nurse it out fer the final 1.5 years till expiry in 2027.

Why waste money fixing it .Just get the light turned off for the NCT and fill it with half a gallon of Dypatane .It will run on that burns clean for the test then fill it up with diesel later .No sense fixing the unfixable .At this stage its probably a touch of turbo as well as DPF .
Don't go there John m, Turbo has been replaced TWICE !!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 05, 2025, 06:54:42 pm
^^^^^^We told ya to dump that heap of shite at least 4/5 years ago Belker.Nobody wants to see another driver paying for their mechanics holiday home.If something can't be solved move on to another car.You could have bought another vehicle with the money spent so far on repairs.
 
I've posted this shite about twelve times over the years and you still make out that it's not your fault.Dump the money pit and move on.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 06:57:08 pm
I'm not offering any advice, Ken but I do think you'd be better advised to buy a Prius or Corolla than a petrol Octavia if you can't stretch to a Camry.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 05, 2025, 07:05:46 pm
^^^^^^We told ya to dump that heap of shite at least 4/5 years ago Belker.Nobody wants to see another driver paying for their mechanics holiday home.If something can't be solved move on to another car.You could have bought another vehicle with the money spent so far on repairs.
 
I've posted this shite about twelve times over the years and you still make out that it's not your fault.Dump the money pit and move on.

Ah the beloved Satins Wheelbarrow 2008 Scoda Occi  After two years it never passed Emissions without Help .That was the Last Year they messed with the mapping of the engines at VW to get emissions Down .I held on to it to long cost a good Purse to keep it on the Road .Think Diesels are like Good Women you find a good one look after it but they are both hard to find .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 07:08:37 pm
Gretta is the best car I ever bought. 2009 reg Octavia MKII (08 year of manufacture), no DPF, cute little manual gearbox... virtually nothing in her you couldn't put right for less than the price of an EV tyre... bar the engine itself, I guess!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 05, 2025, 07:08:44 pm
Everyone makes mistakes, that's how most of us got here....know when to cut your losses also helps for Belker.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 05, 2025, 07:23:45 pm
Gretta is the best car I ever bought. 2009 reg Octavia MKII (08 year of manufacture), no DPF, cute little manual gearbox... virtually nothing in her you couldn't put right for less than the price of an EV tyre... bar the engine itself, I guess!
You left out the fugly bit.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 05, 2025, 07:31:56 pm
Gretta's lovely... not an ugly bolt in her body.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 06, 2025, 02:31:01 pm
Gretta's lovely... not an ugly bolt in her body.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.


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Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 06, 2025, 02:31:49 pm
The Eeyaq has great road presence.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 06, 2025, 06:37:23 pm
I do think Gretta is a bit ADHD. She went into a proper sulk when I brought her to NCTS for a retest. She refused point blank to allow the inspector open her bonnet obviously forming the opinion that once a year is enough for such unsolicited attention. Fortunately, the inspector was able to get the smoke reading he needed without being overcome by Dipetane fumes but I still had to bring her back the next evening so they could check the under-bonnet VIN.

BTW, the Gretta I'm talking about is Mrs. Catcher's MKII Octavia. Any similarity to names attributed to other objects or humans is completely unintentional. It's a popular name, I guess.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 07, 2025, 09:37:47 am
I'm not offering any advice, Ken but I do think you'd be better advised to buy a Prius or Corolla than a petrol Octavia if you can't stretch to a Camry.
I really dislike the Prius, the Corolla is too small, and the Camry was discontined in 2023, and add that hopefully I will never have to see the inside of a Fookin Toyota garage ever again after renewal in 2027.

At the moment a Nua Octavia Auto 7 speed petrol is top of my list, but that could change ??
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 07, 2025, 10:48:13 am
Ken is it worth your while holding off from getting new car .Two more years left on the old one .How much will it cost you to keep it on the road add in lost income .Also try look at the Future is there 12 years work left in you or the Taxi Industry .Will Uber take over the lot with fixed fares and Rideshare .I will be 72 when this car is out of age .I dont know if I will be around that long .Also add in with Trumps Madness on Tarriffs how much more expensive will cars be add that to the repair and lossof earnings .You might meet keeping your old thing on the road .It might be very expensive two years .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 07, 2025, 11:08:29 am
Is the petrol a lot heavier on juice? The Skoda diesel would be a lot better than the Toyota yoke you had. ....
I doubt it, the nua Octavia has a 1.4, 7 speed petrol engine, but with an imperssive HP ratio.

I never want to hears the word DPF ever again after 2027 renewal.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 07, 2025, 11:19:22 am
If with all this Tarriff Shit cars go up 10% thats equal to the cost of one years usage in cost .Ken you need to do some sums  .This Trump Cunt is going to upend the cost of everything ?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 07, 2025, 11:24:56 am
Ken is it worth your while holding off from getting new car .Two more years left on the old one .How much will it cost you to keep it on the road add in lost income .Also try look at the Future is there 12 years work left in you or the Taxi Industry .Will Uber take over the lot with fixed fares and Rideshare .I will be 72 when this car is out of age .I dont know if I will be around that long .Also add in with Trumps Madness on Tarriffs how much more expensive will cars be add that to the repair and lossof earnings .You might meet keeping your old thing on the road .It might be very expensive two years .
Only 16 months left on my 2017 license of which I will try to nurse the Avensis through.
The car actually never stopped working, only Fookin dash lights coming on, always passed NCT on emmissions ?? I'm thinking that there is Fook all wrong with it apart from the dash lights, and Toyota dont seem to have a Fookin clue what they are doing only replacing whatever the computer tells them to replace ?? I wont spend another cent on it as Toyota have replaced almost everything at huge cost to me that could be causing the problem
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 07, 2025, 11:27:40 am
If with all this Tarriff Shit cars go up 10% thats equal to the cost of one years usage in cost .Ken you need to do some sums  .This Trump Cunt is going to upend the cost of everything ?
I have all me sums done.

You worry way too much about Trump.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: watty on August 07, 2025, 12:39:31 pm
The OLD Octavia was a bit too small (imho) for night work.  RC & JohnM might disagree?  The cabin was a bit cramped and the fatter drunks were nearly on top of you and sometimes the smell of booze was overwhelming.  And while it never happened to me, I always felt the back seat passenger behind me could easily slip his arm or knife around my neck if he was thinking of robbery.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 07, 2025, 12:56:20 pm
I don't have the dimensions fer the older Octavia's, but here are the dimensions fer the 2025 Octavia + 2025 Corolla in comparison with my 2017 Avensis;

2025 1.4 Octavia;
Lenght, 185  inches.
Width, 72 inches.
Height, 57.7 inches.
HP, 150.

2025 1.8 Corolla;
Lenght, 183 inches.
Width, 70.5 inches.
Height, 45.5 inches.
HP, 138.

2017 2.0 Avensis;
Lenght, 183 inches.
Width, 69.3 inches.
Height, 58.3 inches.
HP, 143.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: markmiwurdz on August 07, 2025, 04:48:31 pm
Ken is it worth your while holding off from getting new car .Two more years left on the old one .How much will it cost you to keep it on the road add in lost income .Also try look at the Future is there 12 years work left in you or the Taxi Industry .Will Uber take over the lot with fixed fares and Rideshare .I will be 72 when this car is out of age .I dont know if I will be around that long .Also add in with Trumps Madness on Tarriffs how much more expensive will cars be add that to the repair and lossof earnings .You might meet keeping your old thing on the road .It might be very expensive two years .
Only 16 months left on my 2017 license of which I will try to nurse the Avensis through.
The car actually never stopped working, only Fookin dash lights coming on, always passed NCT on emmissions ?? I'm thinking that there is Fook all wrong with it apart from the dash lights, and Toyota dont seem to have a Fookin clue what they are doing only replacing whatever the computer tells them to replace ?? I wont spend another cent on it as Toyota have replaced almost everything at huge cost to me that could be causing the problem

That's shocking for a so called reputable maker/model. ???
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 08, 2025, 10:15:37 am
I've not really found the Octavia small but before I started using Octavias in 2004 I had a diesel Astra and before that a couple of jap import diesel corollas... so the Octavias are decidedly spacious for me! However, they do put a lot of space in the boot which obviously takes from rear passenger accommodation space.

I've never used or considered a petrol car as a taxi, Ken. Over the years there's probably only 2 fully fledged petrol cars that would stand out from a durability perspective. The first was a Datsun, the name of which I can't remember and the second the Toyota Carina E. Toyota Hybrids are noted for high kilometreage so that's where I would be looking before any petrol car. I didn't know the Camry has been discontinued. I'm not one to offer advice but maybe you'd be better served by a 2/3yo Camry, perhaps directly imported from Japan? I would also suggest caution if buying a Jap import locally. Toyotas are notoriously simple to clock... in fact, I think the bauld Stewart kessie reported being stitched up by a used car importer, if memory serves he found the auction sheets (with actual kilometreage recorded) in the glove boxes or on tinternet or some such.... ifn he can be had, anyone can I guess!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 08, 2025, 02:48:00 pm
I have another 16 months on the license and just 1 NCT to pass next year so I'll try nurse it through that. Ater that I never want to see a Toyota garage or hear the words DPF ever again !

PS. I should have mentioned the 2027 Octy I'm thinking of buying is an Automatic Petrol Hybrid.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 08, 2025, 06:07:48 pm
Skoda give the hybrid consumption as 4.9L/100 Km compared with 4.3L/100 Km for the manual diesel and 4.5L/100 Km for the DSG diesel. Not sure why you want all that extra technology / maintenance when there's no fuel saving?

Hybrid is pretty new to VAG. When you consider that lads have paid in the region of €3,000 to get Toyota batteries repaired in back street garages combined with your preference for main dealer repairs one can't help wondering what you could end up handing over when the battery packs in.

Far be it from me to offer advice but I think you'd be far better advised to choose between a Toyota hybrid or a VAG diesel. Toyota are good at hybrid and VAG are good at diesel.

Just bear in mind that with the diesel you'll likely need a DPF after c.300k if you keep it that long and a clutch after 150 or 300k depending on whether you choose manual or DSG and a timing belt every 210k. With the hybrid I guess you'd be best advised to have the price of a battery repair on hand after 300k? The Toyota men can probably guess that kilometreage better than I.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 08, 2025, 06:25:42 pm
P.S. I did hear on the wireless that Skoda have discontiinued the DSG in favour of fully automatic (presumably using a torque converter rather than a clutch) going forward. That could make for cheaper maintenance for high mileage cars but the pricelist for the new (MK IV) Octavia still says DSG... and they ain't cheap!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Panel on August 08, 2025, 08:16:48 pm
I have another 16 months on the license and just 1 NCT to pass next year so I'll try nurse it through that. Ater that I never want to see a Toyota garage or hear the words DPF ever again !

PS. I should have mentioned the 2027 Octy I'm thinking of buying is an Automatic Petrol Hybrid.


Ken you love hardship.

Buy a Toyota hybrid for fuck sake, there’s a reason why every fellah who’s renting a gaff and a taxi on the road 18 hours a day are in a Prius or Toyota hybrid of some description.

Get rid of that shitbox while it’s worth something and put it off a Toyota hybrid.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Octavia1 on August 09, 2025, 09:41:53 am
I have another 16 months on the license and just 1 NCT to pass next year so I'll try nurse it through that. Ater that I never want to see a Toyota garage or hear the words DPF ever again !

PS. I should have mentioned the 2027 Octy I'm thinking of buying is an Automatic Petrol Hybrid.


Ken you love hardship.

Buy a Toyota hybrid for fuck sake, there’s a reason why every fellah who’s renting a gaff and a taxi on the road 18 hours a day are in a Prius or Toyota hybrid of some description.

Get rid of that shitbox while it’s worth something and put it off a Toyota hybrid.

+1
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 09, 2025, 10:11:55 am
I suppose we haven't asked what sort of kilometreage you want to get out of the car nua, Ken?

As I've said before I wouldn't look past Toyota for a Hybrid - VAG Hybrids aren't tried and tested IMO - but I wouldn't go as far as to offer advice. We all know of Toyota Hybrids doing huge kilometreage but we also know of men paying up to the price of 10 years normal car maintenance on getting batteries repaired, note repaired not replaced, in back street garages. Even MfH - who wouldn't be the hardest worker in the world by any stretch of the imagination - had to repair his hybrid battery... and that's in tried and tested hybrids. The other thing of note there - if you read between the lines of what lads post on here - is how quick lads are to get rid of their Toyota hybrids... how many of our tiny group of posters opted to go EV long before the last permissible date of operation for their Prius... in SBs case within a couple of weeks of spending 4 figures on a battery repair. There might be something in that or it could simply be that they're all lads who like new tech and wanted it rather than needed it. In any event, whatever you decide, I don't want to feel guilty if you come back in 3 or 4 years to tell us that Toyota want 5 figures to replace a battery that they say is out of warranty 'cos you've done more kilometreage than they consider equates to 10 years driving.

That said... buy the fuckin Toyota and reconsider how long you - as a man who doesn't want to get his hands dirty or use back street garages - ought to keep it!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 09, 2025, 10:40:59 am
Here is my logic .If you have a bit of coin saved up .Flog the present motor add what you get to what you have saved try buy a four or five year old low milage thing .Drive the wheels off of it .By the time its out of age limits .You will be 66 get old age pension and I dont know if you have a Private Pension .By keeping your funds under control you might get Rent allowance ,Medical Card .Winter Fuel allowance .Living alone allowances ..If you then Buy another Part work yoke fund it through the Credit union Loan offset the payments against Income as most of your allowances will be taken up by pension payments .And if you snuff it the Credit Union Loan dies with you .

This is not financial advice .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 09, 2025, 12:50:42 pm
Ken won't listen to me because ....but the hybrid I bought was a 2006 import from the UK before the Irish owner I bought it off got rid to emigrate.There is a good chance is was written off and it could have already been a taxi in the UK.A bloke named Mohammed was the orginal owner in London.

Those older hybrid batteries do not like to be parked up.The older Prius didn't have any filters in the battery fan so they tended to get clogged and overheated the cells eventually causing them to fail or trigger error codes. Hal's Prius had over 570k on it from new without battery issues.Mine was just unloved before I unloved it.I could have ran it for longer but 11 years out of a 6k purchase was enough for me.It smelled a bit damp and I honestly got sick of looking at it.

If you bought new you'd get the Toyota battery warranty with the services so you'd have no concerns for a long time.

If I had a few quid and couldn't go electric I'd try stretch to the Camry.Bigger,more powerful and still very fuel efficient.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 09, 2025, 12:54:42 pm
ken said the Camry is discontinued. Maybe there'll be a replacement before he's forced to scrap his current yoke?

Is the battery warranty mileage restricted on Toyota hybrids?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 09, 2025, 12:56:54 pm
Two or three year old Camryy would not be a bad purchase.I dunno about the the Jap imports I've been in them and they're lovely and new looking on the inside but you'd be wary about the mileage on them.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 09, 2025, 01:03:18 pm
I'd definitely be wary about buying one here. Stuart Kessie (in a poacher turned gamekeeper moment) reported being stitched up by a local importer. Apparently he found the auction sheets for the cars he bought with the real kilometreage recorded on them. I'm not sure if the Jap auction houses have a way of verifying real kilometreage but from what I've read on different fora folk do seem happy to take what the auction sheet says as Gospel.

That said, what's going to go wrong with them anyway... a few grand to get a battery repaired at the outside? - although I'd definitely learn how to do that myself!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 09, 2025, 01:08:35 pm
Yes RC they're meant to be as close to bulletproof as you can get and that's why the get relatively big money secondhand.

Toyota have gone a bit posh too.The newer Camrys are closer to Lexus than ever before.I've driven a Jap import 2017 Prius and it was a lot quieter and softer on the road compared to my old Prius.Deffo a big upgrade.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 09, 2025, 02:27:21 pm
I have another 16 months on the license and just 1 NCT to pass next year so I'll try nurse it through that. Ater that I never want to see a Toyota garage or hear the words DPF ever again !

PS. I should have mentioned the 2027 Octy I'm thinking of buying is an Automatic Petrol Hybrid.


Ken you love hardship.

Buy a Toyota hybrid for fuck sake, there’s a reason why every fellah who’s renting a gaff and a taxi on the road 18 hours a day are in a Prius or Toyota hybrid of some description.

Get rid of that shitbox while it’s worth something and put it off a Toyota hybrid.

+1
++1
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 09, 2025, 02:31:09 pm
Yes RC they're meant to be as close to bulletproof as you can get and that's why the get relatively big money secondhand.

Toyota have gone a bit posh too.The newer Camrys are closer to Lexus than ever before.I've driven a Jap import 2017 Prius and it was a lot quieter and softer on the road compared to my old Prius.Deffo a big upgrade.
My mate just bought a 2021 Prius [same type Octy drives] for 23K.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 09, 2025, 02:42:55 pm
23k for a 4yo car... the world's gone mad, no doubt about it.

The erm and I were only laughing at 10+yo cars with price stickers in 5 figures at a Toyota stealership the week before last. Maybe we're stuck in a time warp?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 09, 2025, 02:55:04 pm
23k for a 4yo car... the world's gone mad, no doubt about it.

The erm and I were only laughing at 10+yo cars with price stickers in 5 figures at a Toyota stealership the week before last. Maybe we're stuck in a time warp?
I bought a Carina for €1280 around 2003.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 09, 2025, 03:00:45 pm
The only thing is you might drive something for 3/4 years and it could still be worth 8/10k when it's ten years old.

Everything is gone to silly money.Even the clean 90s Camrys are worth a lot more now as they get classic car status.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 09, 2025, 03:13:22 pm
Could get a limo licence for one of them...
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 10, 2025, 05:46:20 pm
23k for a 4yo car... the world's gone mad, no doubt about it.

The erm and I were only laughing at 10+yo cars with price stickers in 5 figures at a Toyota stealership the week before last. Maybe we're stuck in a time warp?
The New/old Prius hasn't got a spare wheel, but has a wheel change kit. the mate got a space saver wheel, but there's no space to store it!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Panel on August 10, 2025, 05:49:18 pm
23k for a 4yo car... the world's gone mad, no doubt about it.

The erm and I were only laughing at 10+yo cars with price stickers in 5 figures at a Toyota stealership the week before last. Maybe we're stuck in a time warp?
I bought a Carina for €1280 around 2003.


Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 11, 2025, 08:21:29 am
I have another 16 months on the license and just 1 NCT to pass next year so I'll try nurse it through that. Ater that I never want to see a Toyota garage or hear the words DPF ever again !

PS. I should have mentioned the 2027 Octy I'm thinking of buying is an Automatic Petrol Hybrid.


Ken you love hardship.

Buy a Toyota hybrid for fuck sake, there’s a reason why every fellah who’s renting a gaff and a taxi on the road 18 hours a day are in a Prius or Toyota hybrid of some description.

Get rid of that shitbox while it’s worth something and put it off a Toyota hybrid.
It's not worth anything and Toyota know it Panel.

I had a peep at 2017 Avensis's on Carzone a few weeks ago, the cheapest was 14.5k and the dearest 19.5k.

With the car again in the Toyota DPF garage last month I noticed they had a 2023 Camry fer sale at 33k and enquired how much I would get fer my 2017 Avensis Taxi against the purchase of the Camry ?

My thinking being that I could put 20k with it if they offered me close to 13K fer my own ?

Fer mine they offered me 3k !!   ::fds
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 11, 2025, 08:26:36 am
I suppose we haven't asked what sort of kilometreage you want to get out of the car nua, Ken?...


...... That said... buy the fuckin Toyota and reconsider how long you - as a man who doesn't want to get his hands dirty or use back street garages - ought to keep it!
Not sure of my weekly kilometreage but it's usually about 30 hours work per week.

The Corolla is just too small fer a Taxi.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 11, 2025, 08:29:12 am
Here is my logic .If you have a bit of coin saved up .Flog the present motor add what you get to what you have saved try buy a four or five year old low milage thing .Drive the wheels off of it .By the time its out of age limits .You will be 66 get old age pension and I dont know if you have a Private Pension .By keeping your funds under control you might get Rent allowance ,Medical Card .Winter Fuel allowance .Living alone allowances ..If you then Buy another Part work yoke fund it through the Credit union Loan offset the payments against Income as most of your allowances will be taken up by pension payments .And if you snuff it the Credit Union Loan dies with you .

This is not financial advice .
Problem there John m is the used cars are almost as expensive as the nua cars !
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 11, 2025, 08:29:27 am
Unfortunately the reputation of your model Avensis isn't great Belker.Any car dealer taking one of them in would need to offer a few grand less to provide a warranty for the next poor bastard.Toyota themselves know those cars are a mess.I've spoken to passengers who had one and they gave it back to the dealer after multiple unfixable faults relating to the diesel engine.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 11, 2025, 08:33:34 am
Ken SERIOUSLY .If you are not doing ten hour shifts .Why not Consider Electric .20K in grants new cars have great milage .Plenty of Fast Chargers splash and dash quarter full in 10 minutes  You could have a top of the range EV for under 25 .Run of the mill one for about 17K .New EV for second hand Diesel Money .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 11, 2025, 08:43:26 am
Ken SERIOUSLY .If you are not doing ten hour shifts .Why not Consider Electric .20K in grants new cars have great milage .Plenty of Fast Chargers splash and dash quarter full in 10 minutes  You could have a top of the range EV for under 25 .Run of the mill one for about 17K .New EV for second hand Diesel Money .
Put quite simply in crude terms, in my lifetime I have never or will never have sex with another male or own an EV !
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Jack Meoff on August 11, 2025, 08:56:01 am
Electric is the way to go if yer only doing 30 hours a week.
Prob cost you 30 bucks in leccie if home charging
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 11, 2025, 09:07:24 am
Electric is the way to go if yer only doing 30 hours a week.
Prob cost you 30 bucks in leccie if home charging
If you were to give one quick Blowie a week down by Shandon boat club you would have free fuel fer the week Jack !
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 11, 2025, 09:10:52 am
Home charger at night would be less than a tenner a week for 30 hours maybe even less.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 11, 2025, 09:29:58 am
Home charger at night would be less than a tenner a week for 30 hours maybe even less.

He dosent have access to home charger but Fastcharger on street still cheaper than Diesel or Petrol .He dosent want one and thats his decision .Makes perfect sense for urban drivers .More responsive for filling gaps changing lanes .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 11, 2025, 09:32:14 am
Fast chargers would be about the same cost a running a Prius/Corolla...I wouldn't be going electric with no home charger.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 11, 2025, 05:07:48 pm
Unfortunately the reputation of your model Avensis isn't great Belker.Any car dealer taking one of them in would need to offer a few grand less to provide a warranty for the next poor bastard.Toyota themselves know those cars are a mess.I've spoken to passengers who had one and they gave it back to the dealer after multiple unfixable faults relating to the diesel engine.
My 2005 D4D was a money pit.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 11, 2025, 05:09:01 pm
Ken SERIOUSLY .If you are not doing ten hour shifts .Why not Consider Electric .20K in grants new cars have great milage .Plenty of Fast Chargers splash and dash quarter full in 10 minutes  You could have a top of the range EV for under 25 .Run of the mill one for about 17K .New EV for second hand Diesel Money .
Put quite simply in crude terms, in my lifetime I have never or will never have sex with another male or own an EV !
Hy-bird? 8)
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 11, 2025, 05:10:20 pm
Ken SERIOUSLY .If you are not doing ten hour shifts .Why not Consider Electric .20K in grants new cars have great milage .Plenty of Fast Chargers splash and dash quarter full in 10 minutes  You could have a top of the range EV for under 25 .Run of the mill one for about 17K .New EV for second hand Diesel Money .
Put quite simply in crude terms, in my lifetime I have never or will never have sex with another male or own an EV !
If you had to choose though? 8)
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 11, 2025, 09:13:24 pm
Ken SERIOUSLY .If you are not doing ten hour shifts .Why not Consider Electric .20K in grants new cars have great milage .Plenty of Fast Chargers splash and dash quarter full in 10 minutes  You could have a top of the range EV for under 25 .Run of the mill one for about 17K .New EV for second hand Diesel Money .
Put quite simply in crude terms, in my lifetime I have never or will never have sex with another male or own an EV !
If you had to choose though? 8)

FFS Silver the man said he wont drive an EV ever .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Panel on August 11, 2025, 11:27:05 pm
Ken SERIOUSLY .If you are not doing ten hour shifts .Why not Consider Electric .20K in grants new cars have great milage .Plenty of Fast Chargers splash and dash quarter full in 10 minutes  You could have a top of the range EV for under 25 .Run of the mill one for about 17K .New EV for second hand Diesel Money .
Put quite simply in crude terms, in my lifetime I have never or will never have sex with another male or own an EV !
If you had to choose though? 8)

FFS Silver the man said he wont drive an EV ever .

Evs have their place as taxis, but it’s user specific.

Ifn ya work a shopping centre or do mainly city centre work and have a charger at the gaff it’s a no brainer.

Ifn ya do grullers or do a large commute and have no charger at the gaff you’d be mad to buy one.


Many new drivers are driving Toyota hybrids and working long hours, it’s the elder driver mainly in Evs.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 12, 2025, 07:34:56 pm
Ken SERIOUSLY .If you are not doing ten hour shifts .Why not Consider Electric .20K in grants new cars have great milage .Plenty of Fast Chargers splash and dash quarter full in 10 minutes  You could have a top of the range EV for under 25 .Run of the mill one for about 17K .New EV for second hand Diesel Money .
Put quite simply in crude terms, in my lifetime I have never or will never have sex with another male or own an EV !
If you had to choose though? 8)

FFS Silver the man said he wont drive an EV ever .
So he'd consider man love?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on August 12, 2025, 07:38:40 pm
Ken SERIOUSLY .If you are not doing ten hour shifts .Why not Consider Electric .20K in grants new cars have great milage .Plenty of Fast Chargers splash and dash quarter full in 10 minutes  You could have a top of the range EV for under 25 .Run of the mill one for about 17K .New EV for second hand Diesel Money .
Put quite simply in crude terms, in my lifetime I have never or will never have sex with another male or own an EV !
If you had to choose though? 8)

FFS Silver the man said he wont drive an EV ever .

Evs have their place as taxis, but it’s user specific.

Ifn ya work a shopping centre or do mainly city centre work and have a charger at the gaff it’s a no brainer.

Ifn ya do grullers or do a large commute and have no charger at the gaff you’d be mad to buy one.


Many new drivers are driving Toyota hybrids and working long hours, it’s the elder driver mainly in Evs.
A lot of immigrants are now driving EVs. I saw a guy in a 252 Ssangyong [KGM}Torres last night, I mean WTF???
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 13, 2025, 10:27:11 am
For RC really...
I just watched a video about the new MG5Sev and according to the YouTuber MG have now hot reduced the warranty period on new models for taxi drivers to 100k.It doesn't really show you with they've  confidence in their products if they don't think it's fit for taxi usage.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 13, 2025, 11:29:51 am
For RC really...
I just watched a video about the new MG5Sev and according to the YouTuber MG have now hot reduced the warranty period on new models for taxi drivers to 100k.It doesn't really show you with they've  confidence in their products if they don't think it's fit for taxi usage.

Two lads sharing a seat could put that up in two years or less .I know a lad hit the service interval in 7 months on his MG .
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 13, 2025, 12:25:43 pm
Yes John the new 20k or 12 monthly service is pure money grabbing from the dealers who are realising now most of these vehicles don't use anything other than tyres and wiper blades for the first 100k.

Drivers will learn and bring in two year old models from the UK and just bypass them.It's no longer a cheap car if has to go back to the dealer every 20k.

Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: John m on August 13, 2025, 04:42:01 pm
Im down the flats watching Maureen Keegan Sunbathing in the Nude and Big Dommo was saying he remembered when Skoda was a shite car . DACIA the taxi mans friend Cheap and Cheerfull .https://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2025/08/austria-july-2025-sales-up-31-6-dacia-bigster-up-to-world-best-2/
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: watty on August 13, 2025, 05:32:16 pm
For RC really...
I just watched a video about the new MG5Sev and according to the YouTuber MG have now hot reduced the warranty period on new models for taxi drivers to 100k.It doesn't really show you with they've  confidence in their products if they don't think it's fit for taxi usage.

Was that an Irish YouTube video?  When I looked at this a few years back, it was MG Ireland that was stingy with their restrictions while MG UK gave a full warranty.  Might also be the local official dealers.  I know every time I go into Linders about something*, I get a different story depending on who I talk to.



* Someday I'll write about my experience with my single failed tyre pressure sensor that's supposed to last 5-10 years (depending on who you ask)...  whilst reading in the newspapers about EU law NOT allowing manufacturers to restrict service to indie garages  >:D
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 13, 2025, 06:10:23 pm
Yes Watty yer man Nobby off the radio who reviews cars.I didn't link it because he's in the video begging people to watch the adverts.Who hasn't got an ad blocker in 2025.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: watty on August 13, 2025, 06:12:57 pm
Ah yes.  He had a video recently about how his YT money had dropped off a cliff and he was wondering why...  He should probably change his name - Nobby could mean different things in other countries!
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 13, 2025, 06:19:43 pm
YouTube was only good because it's free, as soon as they introduce loads of ads in every video the content isn't most of the time worth watching.Some of these YouTubers think they're Stephen Spielberg.

There's no way I'm paying Google a subscription to watch a load of bollox sprinkled with adverts.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: watty on August 13, 2025, 06:37:21 pm
Never used it but https://newpipe.net

"NewPipe has been created with the purpose of getting the original YouTube experience on your smartphone without annoying ads and questionable permissions."
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: mercenary for hire on August 13, 2025, 07:03:46 pm
Smarttube APK for fire sticks is the one I know Watty.I think you can load it on your mobile too.There really are so many adverts on the regular YouTube it's become unwatchable.

A lot of the videos are just glorified adverts themselves for different things.So they're basically putting adverts in the adverts.

Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 24, 2025, 09:28:06 am
The thing with electric, Ken, is simply that you get a lot of car for your money after grants... definitely worth considering given the low value attributed to your current car.

I don't understand why you'd want two systems (as in a hybrid) to give you trouble going forward given that the manufacturer itself has told you the hybrid will cost you more to run than a diesel.

Even the well proven Toyota hybrids aren't as trouble free as we might think. Aside from being relatively needy in terms of routine servicing and the potential for huge battery repair bills there are other bits and pieces that go wrong with them. I've heard of men paying Toyota over €200 for a set of spark plugs, for example.

In fact, the younger not so young lad's hybrid Yaris with under 27,000 miles on the clock has been running with it's Check Engine and Check EV System orange lights on for the past month or so. As he's left it here while on vacation and I just got back from vacation I scanned it yesterday... had two faults... one was airflow to the HV battery (easily cured by hoovering the filter on the fan under the back seat) and the other P314A translates to a fault with the invertor coolant pump and/or it's circuit. That's potentially a more difficult one to remedy as to access even the wiring connector on the pump one has to remove the inverter which requires draining the EV coolant circuit. While I can feel the pump running I'm kinda of the opinion that it ought to replaced regardless of whether it's actually faulty (the fault could be in the wiring or a blockage (however unlikely) in the invertor) because the internet suggests they do give trouble (albeit at much higher mileage) and because if it's not pumping (despite vibrating) I don't think it'd be possible to bleed the circuit after replacing the coolant so there'd be a chance of turning what is currently a working car into a non-working car! He's back Tuesday so I guess I'll see if I can source a pump tomorrow and take it from there. If I can't he can either order a cheap one from Poland or somewhere and leave it on the long finger until he's next in the Republic or get it sorted himself up in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 24, 2025, 09:43:14 am
Oh, just an aside while I think of it, Ken... I asked about them menthol cigarettes that you like in Turkey last week... the tobacconist told me it's illegal to sell them over there... same as here.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 24, 2025, 09:48:31 am
For RC really...
I just watched a video about the new MG5Sev and according to the YouTuber MG have now hot reduced the warranty period on new models for taxi drivers to 100k.It doesn't really show you with they've  confidence in their products if they don't think it's fit for taxi usage.
Was that an Irish YouTube video?  When I looked at this a few years back, it was MG Ireland that was stingy with their restrictions while MG UK gave a full warranty.  Might also be the local official dealers.  I know every time I go into Linders about something*, I get a different story depending on who I talk to.



* Someday I'll write about my experience with my single failed tyre pressure sensor that's supposed to last 5-10 years (depending on who you ask)...  whilst reading in the newspapers about EU law NOT allowing manufacturers to restrict service to indie garages  >:D

I'm sure you've read the MG warranty T&Cs.

https://www.mg.ie/owners/warranty/ (https://www.mg.ie/owners/warranty/)

Quote
...
Each main service is carried out within 1,500 kilometers or 28 days of the recommended mileage interval or service anniversary date as shown on the Service Interval Plan (within the service portfolio) and that the appropriate service record is communicated to the DSR Portal by the servicing dealer. Whilst the warranty will not be invalidated if a non-authorised repairer carries out this work, Warranty faults resulting from work carried out by a non-authorised repairer may not be covered under the MG Warranty. An itemised service invoice must be obtained.
...

There's a long list of restrictions/exclusions but I don't see TPMS sensors on it?

Quote
Description   Warranty Coverage (Time)
Whichever occurs first   Warranty Coverage (Mileage)
Whichever occurs first
CLUTCH COMPONENTS   24 months   48,000KM
BRAKE DISCS   12 months   24,000KM
BRAKE FRICTION LININGS   12 months   24,000KM
DRIVE BELTS   36 months   72,000KM
OIL FILTER   1st Scheduled Service   1st Scheduled Service
AIR FILTER   1st Scheduled Service   1st Scheduled Service
POLLEN FILTER   1st Scheduled Service   1st Scheduled Service
FUEL FILTER   1st Scheduled Service   1st Scheduled Service
SPARK PLUGS   1st Scheduled Service   1st Scheduled Service
AIR CON RE GAS   6 months   12,000KM
WIPER BLADES   6 months   12,000KM
FUSES   12 months   24,000KM
BULBS   12 months   24,000KM
REMOTE BATTERIES   12 months   24,000KM
12V BATTERIES (vehicles registered after 03/01/2017)   12 months   24,000KM
WHEEL BEARINGS   36 months   72,000KM
ALL BALL JOINTS   36 months   72,000KM
ALL BUSHES   36 months   72,000KM
TRACK ROD ENDS   36 months   72,000KM
DAMPERS, STRUTS   36 months   72,000KM
RUBBER COMPONENTS   36 months   72,000KM
TYRES   0 months   0KM
COSMETIC PAINT (including alloy wheels)   36 months   
COSMETIC TRIM   12 months   
GLASS CRACK   3 months   1,500KM
EXHAUST/CATALYTIC CONVERTERS   12 months   
HINGE PANEL ADJUSTMENT   6 months   15,000KM
HEADLAMP ALIGNMENT   6 months   15,000KM
PARKING BRAKE ADJUST   1st Scheduled Service   1st Scheduled Service
WHEEL ALIGNMENT   3 months   1,500KM
WHEEL BALANCE   3 months   1,500KM
SEAT COVERS   12 months   24,000KM
INFOTAINMENT, CONVENIENCE SYSTEM & DRIVER AIDS   36 months   72,000KM
EV CHARGING POINT DOOR & CABLE   12 months   
PAINT WARRANTY   36 months   100,000KM
ANTI-PERFORATION   84 months (subject to annual inspection)   

Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: watty on August 24, 2025, 05:17:26 pm
Good to know my clutch and catalytic converter are covered  :-\  That link didn't exist when I last looked (afaik) and I'm out of warranty* a good few months, maybe even a year now?   I never imagined Linders/MG would honour the warranty so I didn't think too much about it. 


* (Off the top of my head, for taxis, it was 70k km and/or 3 years whichever came first.)
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 24, 2025, 05:21:51 pm
From the same link (under the heading Private Hire Vehicles):

The warranty policy for MG Petrol vehicles used for Private Hire and Taxi’s is 12 months/ 100,000 kms (whichever occurs sooner).

The warranty policy for Electric & Hybrid Vehicles used for Private Hire is 3 years/100,000 kms (whichever occurs sooner). All exclusions as listed on page 3 apply, as do all terms and conditions listed within this warranty statement. Please note, to be eligible the vehicle must be registered by an MG Dealer as a Private Hire Vehicle with MG using the Private Hire Vehicle Registration Form. Failure to do so may void your warranty. This limitation includes the High Voltage Power Train Components and the Lithium Ion High Voltage Battery.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 24, 2025, 05:27:30 pm
Still, not sure what use a warranty is if it takes the cunts 3 months to source a part...
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: watty on August 24, 2025, 05:36:14 pm

The warranty policy for Electric & Hybrid Vehicles used for Private Hire is 3 years/100,000 kms (whichever occurs sooner). All exclusions as listed on page 3 apply, as do all terms and conditions listed within this warranty statement. Please note, to be eligible the vehicle must be registered by an MG Dealer as a Private Hire Vehicle with MG using the Private Hire Vehicle Registration Form. Failure to do so may void your warranty. This limitation includes the High Voltage Power Train Components and the Lithium Ion High Voltage Battery.


I'd be amazed if such a document existed.  I'd imagine they just cut and pasted the UK version and turned the mileage numbers into kilometres...  And presumably we're taxis or PSVs instead of Private Hire Vehicles?
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 24, 2025, 06:12:38 pm
It does mention taxi under the same Private Hire heading, seemingly an afterthought, but I suspect you're right i.e. copied from the UK site.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 25, 2025, 09:34:40 pm
Got a once new inverter coolant pump for the Yaris for €60 from Border Spares up above in Monaghan. Another €40 for 5L of coolant - only needed 1.3L and the stuff I drained out probably would have done but the manufacturer specifies using new coolant so that's what my OCD made me do - from Malone's Toyota in Drogheda plus an hour "labour" and she's back in showroom condition with no DTCs or dashboard warning lights illuminated.

My OCD didn't stretch to paying the €494 main stealer price for a new pump but I woulda opted for a spurious one - autodoc.ie have one for €91 (€82 if Ken borrowed me his Free Now discount code which I'm sure he woulda) - if time wasn't a factor. Just unfortunate that my own vacation overlapped with the younger not so young lads. I might get the autodoc one for it's next service anyway... next service is never far away with a Toyota, I guess.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 26, 2025, 03:43:06 am
..... - autodoc.ie have one for €91 (€82 if Ken borrowed me his Free Now discount code which I'm sure he woulda) - if time wasn't a factor. ....
I dunno what my Free Now discount code is ?
But if ya ever want it then just tell me where to find it and I'll pass it on.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Belker on August 26, 2025, 03:55:31 am
Oh, just an aside while I think of it, Ken... I asked about them menthol cigarettes that you like in Turkey last week... the tobacconist told me it's illegal to sell them over there... same as here.
Thanks fer thinking of my Menthol cigs Stephen, but after 5 years I have about come around to the everyday chore of useing the Menthol flavour card inserts in to each box.

Fer any other Menthol cigarette smokers I find the best flavour card is the Aroma Queen Menthol, they cost about 80 cent each and seemingly only available in Maxol service stations.

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Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: watty on August 26, 2025, 10:18:33 am
The link is for Spain (I think) so why is it in English?  But I guess it's the same procedure

https://www.free-now.com/es-en/drive/taxi/driver-perks/ (https://www.free-now.com/es-en/drive/taxi/driver-perks/)

Quote
8% off car parts
Need to repair or maintain your vehicle? As a FREENOW driver, you get an exclusive 8% discount at AUTODOC, Europe’s top auto parts store. We're making it even easier to keep your taxi running smoothly.

Here's what you get:
• 8% off selected items
• No limit on how many times you use the code
Only a €50 minimum spend
• New code every month

How to claim your discount:
1. Tap the button below to go to the AUTODOC page.
2. Copy your unique voucher code.
3. Add items to your basket.
4. Paste the code at checkout in the 'I have a promo code' section.
5. Complete your order.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Rat Catcher on August 28, 2025, 04:36:07 pm
On the Android app it's Menu -> Freenow Loyalty... Ken. Then if you scroll down, under Gold, you should see 10% off Vehicle Components. (6% for bronze, 8% for silver)... click on that and your discount code is there. I haven't read the T&Cs so I wouldn't screenshot it or anything like that, I assume it's intended for your personal use... but sure we could always say I ordered a bit for you or something if questions were asked!

I'm not going to bother ordering the pump for the Yaris unless it fails again, anyway. My thinking is that the way it failed wasn't critical so should the once new one fail in a similar way going forward there'd be no great rush to replace it. It seems that the actual fault with the pump was with it's integral speed sensor. A quick look at the partially drained reservoir bottle revealed that coolant was circulating prior to disassembly and a bench test comparison between the faulty one and the once new one concluded no noticeable (by ear / feel) difference in the actual speed of rotation. Further testing revealed full continuity from all relevant connecting cables to the relevant connections on the power supply ECU / fuse/relay box so the fault had to be either in the power supply ECU or (as seems to be the case) the sensor within the pump. Hence I've drawn a line under it as adequately repaired regardless of using a 2nd hand component.

Just for reference (as I know a lot of you drive hybrids) the symptoms in this case were an orange engine management light and an orange check EV system light being constantly shown on the dashboard together with the EV Mode and Eco Mode options being disabled and the cruise control system being disabled. I don't think the younger not so young lad noticed anything other than the lights but in addition to the disabled systems it was also evident that the car stopped using it's EV mode almost immediately after moving off so was (presumably) using more petrol than normal as well. The fault code given by my OBDeleven (now licensed by Toyota as well as VAG and BMW) was P314A - Inverter Coolant Pump Speed Signal.
Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: Panel on October 02, 2025, 01:55:52 am

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Title: Re: Hold strong Rc
Post by: silverbullet on October 02, 2025, 04:04:30 pm

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