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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Taxi driver42 on July 18, 2025, 10:51:53 am
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https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/air-india-cockpit-recording-suggests-captain-cut-fuel-engines-before-crash-2025-07-16/ (https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/air-india-cockpit-recording-suggests-captain-cut-fuel-engines-before-crash-2025-07-16/)
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Was it suicide?
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Probably just curious to see what would happen by turning the switches off.There are easier ways to top yourself.Maybe he was unhappy with his employer?
The other side is boeing have a habit of blaming the pilots then rolling back afterwards when it's been proven it's the fault of the plane.
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Just curious lol
He knew it would loose power
Too low to cut the power
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Yeah but how much power....
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Them Indians
I still think it was the plane not the captain
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i saw an interview with an american pilot and he definitely reckons suicide.
in asian culture it's the ultimate shame to top yourself.
apparently if you top yourself and pass it off as a dreadful accident well then you're gameball.
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Think about it .He picks up off the Rank drops at another rank .Told what to eat when to eat cant have a gargle .Pilot must be the most boring no Satisfaction Job in the World .Unlike us who do exactly the same job moving Fat Covered Bone He cant park up when he is pissed off ..They know yer man deliberately crashed into the Mountain .They think Malaysian Plane they never found was suicide pilot turned off tracker .Im surprised it dosent happen More .Samarathans recon a lot of them single passenger crashes on rural roads could be suicides .Must be strange for a Lad who has to have high educational ability to train as a Pilot to suddenly discover he is just a well paid Amazon Delivery Driver .No job satisfaction just daily drudgery .
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They get paid well, are well respected. Get to see the world for free, get to party with the flight attendants etc it's not that boring.
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Maybe burnt out ... all them layovers with pretty girls in cute uniforms anall...
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Ever fly aer dingus
Lots of granny age hostess ladies
Make me look young
Mutton dressed as lamb
Suppose u can't knock them up
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Ever fly aer dingus
Lots of granny age hostess ladies
Make me look young
Mutton dressed as lamb
Suppose u can't knock them up
Try Delta, even older if I remember well.
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Here's wat first came to me mind wen i herd this theory that " some cunt switched the fuel switches off " ....
Why the fuck would you have a " fuel switch off " switch on a bleedin aeroplane
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Here's wat first came to me mind wen i herd this theory that " some cunt switched the fuel switches off " ....
Why the fuck would you have a " fuel switch off " switch on a bleedin aeroplane
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If the engine goes on fire you can cut off the fuel supply to douse the fire no fuel no fire remember your Fire Triangle training .
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They get paid well, are well respected. Get to see the world for free, get to party with the flight attendants etc it's not that boring.
Thats the James Bond movie image of Pilots not the reality .They cannot eat the same meal as the Co pilot .They are regularly drink and drug tested .If they miss a day taking a sickie they will be stood down to local hops lose international flights and higher wages .Most Pilots do not earn Huge money .The Top paying Airline in the World is actually Aer Lingus .Lads working for American low cost carriers earn less than managers in Mc Donalds .If you have any serious health issue like high blood pressure diabeties or serious bad eyesight you are grounded .Nobody really respects Pilots they are just like busdrivers with wings .Taxi drivers and Coach drivers get tips from greatfull passengers .Have you ever given the Airhostess or Trolley Dolley two euro and said give that to the Driver ?
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Did he turn the fuel off?
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They say he did
But there's another case where the.plane thought it was on the runway and switched fuel off itself on one of them dreamliners
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He probably thought he was turning off the fog lights or something..Easy enough mistake..
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More likely the AC to save a few notes, MfH... being one of them immigrants anall...
I tried to tip a Ryanair flight attendant once and she didn't understand the concept at all, erm. It was back when one could pay for one's coffee in used notes. She didn't have change to hand so I told her to keep it as a gratuity. She ended up sending a (apparently) homosexual male colleague to compensate me with scratch cards to the value of the change. I explained that I didn't want them and told him that the pretty girl could either keep the relevant coins or they could scratch the cards and split any proceeds (probably less than a 38,456,325,674,987/1 chance with a top prize of stg£0.58 knowing that O'Leary cunt) between them. Not sure which option she/they ultimately exercised
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Defo not irish
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if somebody refuses a tip it usually means you're an absolute cunt and they want nothing off ye or antin to do with ye. i hadda disgruntled passanger during the lockdown who forced a dirty big tip on me. it's dreadful isn't she says what's going on. where's your safety mask incidentally. it's all a loada bollocks i says and she turned on me rantin and ravin. fare was 12 and she threw a 20 at me makin sure to tell me it wasn't a tip.
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They get paid well, are well respected. Get to see the world for free, get to party with the flight attendants etc it's not that boring.
Thats the James Bond movie image of Pilots not the reality .They cannot eat the same meal as the Co pilot .They are regularly drink and drug tested .If they miss a day taking a sickie they will be stood down to local hops lose international flights and higher wages .Most Pilots do not earn Huge money .The Top paying Airline in the World is actually Aer Lingus .Lads working for American low cost carriers earn less than managers in Mc Donalds .If you have any serious health issue like high blood pressure diabeties or serious bad eyesight you are grounded .Nobody really respects Pilots they are just like busdrivers with wings .Taxi drivers and Coach drivers get tips from greatfull passengers .Have you ever given the Airhostess or Trolley Dolley two euro and said give that to the Driver ?
That's factually incorrect:
https://baatraining.com/blog/airline-pilot-salary-how-much-pilots-earn/
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They get paid well, are well respected. Get to see the world for free, get to party with the flight attendants etc it's not that boring.
Thats the James Bond movie image of Pilots not the reality .They cannot eat the same meal as the Co pilot .They are regularly drink and drug tested .If they miss a day taking a sickie they will be stood down to local hops lose international flights and higher wages .Most Pilots do not earn Huge money .The Top paying Airline in the World is actually Aer Lingus .Lads working for American low cost carriers earn less than managers in Mc Donalds .If you have any serious health issue like high blood pressure diabeties or serious bad eyesight you are grounded .Nobody really respects Pilots they are just like busdrivers with wings .Taxi drivers and Coach drivers get tips from greatfull passengers .Have you ever given the Airhostess or Trolley Dolley two euro and said give that to the Driver ?
That's factually incorrect:
https://baatraining.com/blog/airline-pilot-salary-how-much-pilots-earn/
You were saying !At the entry level, pilots in countries like India might earn around €3,800 per year, while seasoned captains in the UK can command salaries exceeding €413,000 annually. This vast range underscores the diversity of opportunities within the aviation industry. Typically, most airline pilots can expect to earn between €45,000 and €150,000 per year.
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They get paid well, are well respected. Get to see the world for free, get to party with the flight attendants etc it's not that boring.
Thats the James Bond movie image of Pilots not the reality .They cannot eat the same meal as the Co pilot .They are regularly drink and drug tested .If they miss a day taking a sickie they will be stood down to local hops lose international flights and higher wages .Most Pilots do not earn Huge money .The Top paying Airline in the World is actually Aer Lingus .Lads working for American low cost carriers earn less than managers in Mc Donalds .If you have any serious health issue like high blood pressure diabeties or serious bad eyesight you are grounded .Nobody really respects Pilots they are just like busdrivers with wings .Taxi drivers and Coach drivers get tips from greatfull passengers .Have you ever given the Airhostess or Trolley Dolley two euro and said give that to the Driver ?
That's factually incorrect:
https://baatraining.com/blog/airline-pilot-salary-how-much-pilots-earn/
You were saying !At the entry level, pilots in countries like India might earn around €3,800 per year, while seasoned captains in the UK can command salaries exceeding €413,000 annually. This vast range underscores the diversity of opportunities within the aviation industry. Typically, most airline pilots can expect to earn between €45,000 and €150,000 per year.
It costs circa €120,000 to earn a CPL. Most use Ryanair and other budget airlines as stepping stones. The aim is to fly with middle eastern airlines who have deep pockets.
When I worked for Aer Lingus there was a general tenet of "Eight hours between bottle and throttle". Now, [Thirty years on], it's at least 24 hours. I used to drink with several pilots in Carthy's Drumcondra. By Jaysus could they lash them back when off duty.
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They get paid well, are well respected. Get to see the world for free, get to party with the flight attendants etc it's not that boring.
Thats the James Bond movie image of Pilots not the reality .They cannot eat the same meal as the Co pilot .They are regularly drink and drug tested .If they miss a day taking a sickie they will be stood down to local hops lose international flights and higher wages .Most Pilots do not earn Huge money .The Top paying Airline in the World is actually Aer Lingus .Lads working for American low cost carriers earn less than managers in Mc Donalds .If you have any serious health issue like high blood pressure diabeties or serious bad eyesight you are grounded .Nobody really respects Pilots they are just like busdrivers with wings .Taxi drivers and Coach drivers get tips from greatfull passengers .Have you ever given the Airhostess or Trolley Dolley two euro and said give that to the Driver ?
The pilots might not get tips but they get a round of applause which we don't get. :-[
I think they do get respect, if your daughter told you she was dating a pilot would you think, fair play or why are you dating a loser like that? get out of my sight, a fuckin pilot, where did I go wrong?
will they ever be replaced by A.I. and if they are, would you ever fly again?
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Here's wat first came to me mind wen i herd this theory that " some cunt switched the fuel switches off " ....
Why the fuck would you have a " fuel switch off " switch on a bleedin aeroplane
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???
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If the engine goes on fire you can cut off the fuel supply to douse the fire no fuel no fire remember your Fire Triangle training .
The mind boggles johnny ... them airplane tings are full o robots an computers to make decisions ...an it alledgedly allowed sum alledged lunatic to switch off the fuel on take off? Mad shit
... ? Anyway bring on the flyin robots .... if it is murder / suicide its not the first time
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Watch: Plane catches fire during take-off (https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c0k7l3p6vdno) (Video)
This is the moment a Delta Airlines flight was forced to return to Los Angeles airport after one of the engines caught fire during take-off.
Video footage shows the Boeing 767-400 aircraft during its ascent over LA, with fire emerging from the left engine. The plane, which was heading to Atlanta, then circled around and landed safely on the runway.
"Delta flight 446 returned to Los Angeles shortly after departure following an indication of an issue with the aircraft's left engine," an airline spokesperson told the BBC.
Be careful if you get on a plane in the next week or two. Don't they say bad things happen in three's :o :o :o
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Watch: Plane catches fire during take-off (https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c0k7l3p6vdno) (Video)
This is the moment a Delta Airlines flight was forced to return to Los Angeles airport after one of the engines caught fire during take-off.
Video footage shows the Boeing 767-400 aircraft during its ascent over LA, with fire emerging from the left engine. The plane, which was heading to Atlanta, then circled around and landed safely on the runway.
"Delta flight 446 returned to Los Angeles shortly after departure following an indication of an issue with the aircraft's left engine," an airline spokesperson told the BBC.
Be careful if you get on a plane in the next week or two. Don't they say bad things happen in three's :o :o :o
Jus dont get on a Boeing.... how many whistle blowers have died so far ? I tink every one them ....poor cnuts
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remember the lufthansa fella.
he locked the captain out of the cockpit and flew the plane in to a mountain.
and malaysian mh370. that was definitely a suicide job as well.
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Jus dont get on a Boeing.... how many whistle blowers have died so far ? I tink every one them ....poor cnuts
I heard they're rebranding and their new slogan is "Boing*, Boing, Splat" oops
* Dictionary: to move in a quick, sudden manner : spring, bounce
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if somebody refuses a tip it usually means you're an absolute cunt and they want nothing off ye or antin to do with ye. i hadda disgruntled passanger during the lockdown who forced a dirty big tip on me. it's dreadful isn't she says what's going on. where's your safety mask incidentally. it's all a loada bollocks i says and she turned on me rantin and ravin. fare was 12 and she threw a 20 at me makin sure to tell me it wasn't a tip.
I wouldn't be an unpleasant passenger. I know what to expect from Ryanair and, as such, I'm generally more than happy with the service and I certainly wouldn't waste any unpleasantness on the staff. Furthermore, I've never had a gratuity refused in any other situation although I did once draw criticism from locals I was dining with in a provincial Italian restaurant who suggested that in the particular type of family run restaurant a tip could be viewed as an insult and for future reference it'd be far more polite to give the tip to one of the kids who were running about the place. However, others in our party assured me they wouldn't take offence as they'd be aware that foreigners often leave gratuities to acknowledge good service. In the Ryanair situation I think they are just unaccustomed to passengers offering gratuities and just assumed I done so because they had no change... which is true but I didn't adopt a reluctant tone... It was just an amicable solution to the particular problem, in my mind. I don't generally tip flight attendants, not sure why but I don't.
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Another plane crashed into college campus today in Bangladesh. The Air India one also crashed into college campus!! Also apparently its not easy to toggle the fuel switches, they are spring loaded and you have to perform another manoeuvre before you can cut it off. But the pilot denied that he switched off as recorded in the box. I think Boeing is trying to slide its way out if this, they aren’t being transparent.
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I read one suggestion that they may have switched off the wrong engine which has, apparently, happened before on similar aircraft.
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I read one suggestion that they may have switched off the wrong engine which has, apparently, happened before on similar aircraft.
Alledgedly.... the cockpit recording tingy recorded the captain askin the copilot why he switched off both engine fuel supplies an the copilot Alledgedly denied it ....
But who knows untill its made public ...
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https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/air-india-cockpit-recording-suggests-captain-cut-fuel-engines-before-crash-2025-07-19/ (https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/air-india-cockpit-recording-suggests-captain-cut-fuel-engines-before-crash-2025-07-19/)
This account says it was the captain that snuffed everyone ... which counters wat i read earlier...
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India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB), which is leading the investigation into the crash, said in a statement on Thursday that "certain sections of the international media are repeatedly attempting to draw conclusions through selective and unverified reporting." It added the investigation was ongoing and it remained too early to draw definitive conclusions.
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Another plane crashed into college campus today in Bangladesh. The Air India one also crashed into college campus!! Also apparently its not easy to toggle the fuel switches, they are spring loaded and you have to perform another manoeuvre before you can cut it off. But the pilot denied that he switched off as recorded in the box. I think Boeing is trying to slide its way out if this, they aren’t being transparent.
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The FDR will show if the fuel cutoff switches were disengaged.
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anybody else love air crash investigation.
there was one when an airliner was cruising along at night when all of a sudden this mad psychadelic light show appeared out the window. then all the engines stopped. they didn't know if they were being abducted by a flying saucer or what the story was. they managed to get the engines going but then they couldn't see out the window at all for some reason.
turns out they had flown in to a volcanic cloud. millions of tiny particles were ricocheting off the plane creating flashes of light and the particles choked the engines and sandblasted the front window and all the paint off the plane. the light show phenomenon is known as st. elmo's fire.
i was lookin at a programme today about a b-17 flying fortress that sustained a direct hit from a flak cannon to the cockpit. took the front of the plane off and killed the bombadier and co-pilot instantaneously. the cockpit was gone but the captain was able to fly the yoke by pulling at the severed aileron cables. amazing stuff.
(https://i.postimg.cc/43QmBQZY/FB-IMG-1753139941168.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jWCxjNDT)
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Great programme. Makes you realise how inept pilots are. If the automated systems fail they're about as much use as a lifejacket in the middle of the Atlantic ocean.
The odd one that manages to exercise a remedial level of competence is hailed a hero!
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I used to watch them but it only brings home how close to death you are if one link in the maintenance chain is weak...
An old mate of mine used to be glued to those air crash programs but he developed a phobia of flying and now needs Xanax(or something similar)to get on the plane.Sometimes the less you know the better.
I fly a fair bit like most of us and I keep thinking every time I get home safely I've used up one of my chances and statistically the more you fly the higher the chances are of being burned alive on the side of a mountain.
Oh I watched Lockerbie recently and it was a good series but that one when I was a kid always the one stat stuck out.The thoughts of a 747 landing in front of your gaff in bits is terrifying.Enjoy yer holidays lads..
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there was one about a 747 cargo plane that caught fire and broke in half mid flight.
in the manifesto was a box of discharged oxygen canisters from a military base or sumtin. what they didn't know was that the canisters were'nt fully discharged and they were still venting sizable quantities of oxygen. they were stowed in a cargo area in the belly of the plane that didn't have any fire suppression system. they reckon a toaster or sumtin short circuited creating a tiny spark. the thinking was at 35000ft there's no oxygen for any fire to even start...
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Great to download and watch on a flight. I've never come across them on any of the inflight movie systems!
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I used to watch them but it only brings home how close to death you are if one link in the maintenance chain is weak...
An old mate of mine used to be glued to those air crash programs but he developed a phobia of flying and now needs Xanax(or something similar)to get on the plane.Sometimes the less you know the better.
I fly a fair bit like most of us and I keep thinking every time I get home safely I've used up one of my chances and statistically the more you fly the higher the chances are of being burned alive on the side of a mountain.
Oh I watched Lockerbie recently and it was a good series but that one when I was a kid always the one stat stuck out.The thoughts of a 747 landing in front of your gaff in bits is terrifying.Enjoy yer holidays lads..
My house was under the flight path leading to runway 16/34 all during the 70s, 80s.
Runway 10/28R was developed later ['89 I think].
We felt as though we could touch the undercarriage of some of the aircraft. It was a sight to behold when a 747/100 passed over. Waving like maniacs at the faces at the windows.
The noisiest ones were the Boeing 707 and the BAC 1-11, operated by both Aer Lingus and Ryanair. British Airways Tridents were ear-splitting, but which were hush-kitted in later years.
(https://i.postimg.cc/7Zw9HvsP/RUNWAY.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That would drive me nuts SB.When I lived up beside Ongar the planes were particularly loud even though it's a 40 euro taxi from the Airport.Apparently there's on resident up there bombarding the the authorities with thousands of complaints a year over the noise.
I can't remember where we were flying to but one year I could actually pick out my road up there from the plane we were so close.
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That would drive me nuts SB.When I lived up beside Ongar the planes were particularly loud even though it's a 40 euro taxi from the Airport.Apparently there's on resident up there bombarding the the authorities with thousands of complaints a year over the noise.
I can't remember where we were flying to but one year I could actually pick out my road up there from the plane we were so close.
Around the time the new runway was proposed East/West 10/28R IIRC, the residents around Portmarnock were apoplectic.
They came up with the acronym UPROAR
United Portmarnock Residents Oppose Airport Runway it stuck with me. Still, Aer Rianta had their way simply by insisting aircraft flew with hush-kits.
BAC 1-11 aircraft were frequently fitted with engine hush kits to reduce noise, allowing them to continue operating under stricter noise regulations. These kits, primarily designed for the Rolls-Royce Spey engines, helped the aircraft meet Stage 2 noise limits. While hush kits were effective in reducing noise, the BAC 1-11s were still known for being quite loud, even with the modifications.
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Are all Indian Planes Jumbos ?
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anybody else love air crash investigation.
there was one when an airliner was cruising along at night when all of a sudden this mad psychadelic light show appeared out the window. then all the engines stopped. they didn't know if they were being abducted by a flying saucer or what the story was. they managed to get the engines going but then they couldn't see out the window at all for some reason.
turns out they had flown in to a volcanic cloud. millions of tiny particles were ricocheting off the plane creating flashes of light and the particles choked the engines and sandblasted the front window and all the paint off the plane. the light show phenomenon is known as st. elmo's fire.
i was lookin at a programme today about a b-17 flying fortress that sustained a direct hit from a flak cannon to the cockpit. took the front of the plane off and killed the bombadier and co-pilot instantaneously. the cockpit was gone but the captain was able to fly the yoke by pulling at the severed aileron cables. amazing stuff.
([url]https://i.postimg.cc/43QmBQZY/FB-IMG-1753139941168.jpg[/url]) ([url]https://postimg.cc/jWCxjNDT[/url])
You would have loved this one about the BAC 1 -11, a type of aircraft I worked on in the late 80s/90s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ngy17JM71OI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ngy17JM71OI) :o
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Are all Indian Planes Jumbos ?
LOL - Jumbo is of Swahili origin, but I like the cut of your gib! 8)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/xdfkvW4F/Screenshot-20250722-125912-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YvPqkyk1)
Transatlantic tranny lol
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check out green dot aviation on youtube.
irish chap who does air crash investigation videos.
bleedin brilliant.