Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Belker on August 19, 2026, 01:10:13 am
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As I'm a horrendously lazy person I was slow to throw my hat in to the ring and switch to Tap A Taxi, as FN had been good to me fer the past 10 years on my FN Ambassador career, but the FN SAVER option changed everything fer me. I REFUSE TO DO JOBS AT 25% COMMISSION and all that is on offer from FN these days are SAVER jobs.
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Fair play.... on both counts i.e. being lazy and joining the cooperative society. Ours is a great job for lazy men provided you don't need to earn a lot and by definition I guess lazy men don't do a lot so don't spend a lot... once their Childers have flown the nest and the mortgage is paid, that is.
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Good man Belker hope it works out.
You may have to manage your expectations as they will take a while to get some work.
I wonder why they're expanding before they conquer Dublin. The US apps didn't do it that way.
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I think there's an element of panic. Hopefully it'll sort itself out and settle with a reasonable market share in due course. In any event lessons will be learnt along the way.
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There's a lot of conundrums to solve or navigate in such a venture. At €30/week it should be a no brainer for drivers but with no plan or even threat of closing membership at any prescribed time it's easy for men to adopt a wait and see approach... then you end up with the Chicken and Egg scenario... not enough drivers leads to clients waiting too long and drivers losing money travelling to cover work. While to you and me €1,740 (full year sub including sign up) is fuck all men with big mortgages and childers to feed and educate would need a return on that sort of investment sooner rather than later.. in fact, one migrant worker suggested that's like paying double for his taxi insurance. Also I find some of the newer drivers don't think in terms of covering costs - you or I might say sure that's 10 mins work on an Uber or Free Now ride and think no more of it - a lot will think more in terms of marginal profit and loss... even some who wouldn't be able to spell marginal contribution!
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It reminds me of I think it was Action couriers who had a full page Golden pages advert bigger than all their competitors and it had powerful racing motorbikes, trucks a cargo ship and a Jumbo.In reality they had a couple of lads on small motorbikes and a van.
I've no doubt drivers in other cities are looking for an alternative but if there's not enough work they'll quickly become a problem and cancel their subscriptions.
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Welcome to freedom ken .... im fucking delighted for you ....
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Anyone hazard a guess for the sweet spot target number of TaT drivers in Dublin, so that customer service was good? Clearly it would depend on amount of work availabe, but I think that if it got to 3000 drivers it would have critical mass, but then again that would only be about 20% of the total number of drivers in Dublin.
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There's a lot of conundrums to solve or navigate in such a venture. At €30/week it should be a no brainer for drivers but with no plan or even threat of closing membership at any prescribed time it's easy for men to adopt a wait and see approach... then you end up with the Chicken and Egg scenario... not enough drivers leads to clients waiting too long and drivers losing money travelling to cover work. While to you and me €1,740 (full year sub including sign up) is fuck all men with big mortgages and childers to feed and educate would need a return on that sort of investment sooner rather than later.. in fact, one migrant worker suggested that's like paying double for his taxi insurance. Also I find some of the newer drivers don't think in terms of covering costs - you or I might say sure that's 10 mins work on an Uber or Free Now ride and think no more of it - a lot will think more in terms of marginal profit and loss... even some who wouldn't be able to spell marginal contribution!
Yu dont half talk an absolute cunty load o bollix an nonsense rat ..... Just join up and giv it yur best shot ffs an stop promoting them uber parasitic scum suckin low life robbin cunts ...
Yis may not always agree wit me but ive always bean rite ....
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As I'm a horrendously lazy person I was slow to throw my hat in to the ring and switch to Tap A Taxi, as FN had been good to me fer the past 10 years on my FN Ambassador career, but the FN SAVER option changed everything fer me. I REFUSE TO DO JOBS AT 25% COMMISSION and all that is on offer from FN these days are SAVER jobs.
Ive never done a saver job or a fixed fare an i still get work off fn... i dont do uber anymore ... .... once yu do 1 saver you become a target for more .... same wit uber .... the more you comply the more they take .... then wen you stop doing them they punish you by cutting off work.
Thats not a partnership....
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Im on the Canal near the Flats beside the Chipper close to the Church with Big Dommo .We are walking Plato his 38 year old Jack Russell and we walk by a lad spinning for fish the next lad is ledgering the next lad has a float and maggott set up .About 2K worth of gear umberellas chairs .Not a single bottle of Cider in the water to cool down .Big Dommo Laughing his bollox off at all of them all the gear each thinking he has the right setup ,paying out money some even paying up front for a licence to catch fish ."What you laughing about I asked .He laughed those cunts thinking changing tack will help them catch the non existing Salmon of Knowledge .You want to know why Free Now are charging you 25% and Uber doing Discounted fares >Were they doing them before Halo or Tap existed .They are marketing them out of business . You were all happy enough when you thought you had an advantage .Fools and their Coin easily parted .The Punters want cheapest fares .You are being sold a Tricolour not a Functioning Taxi hailing App .Irish owned Irish Run .Jack and the Fucking Beanstalk Stuff .The Emperor has no new clothes .The Billygoat Gruff is charging you all to cross the Bridge and you were all warned .
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Im on the Canal near the Flats beside the Chipper close to the Church with Big Dommo .We are walking Plato his 38 year old Jack Russell and we walk by a lad spinning for fish the next lad is ledgering the next lad has a float and maggott set up .About 2K worth of gear umberellas chairs .Not a single bottle of Cider in the water to cool down .Big Dommo Laughing his bollox off at all of them all the gear each thinking he has the right setup ,paying out money some even paying up front for a licence to catch fish ."What you laughing about I asked .He laughed those cunts thinking changing tack will help them catch the non existing Salmon of Knowledge .You want to know why Free Now are charging you 25% and Uber doing Discounted fares >Were they doing them before Halo or Tap existed .They are marketing them out of business . You were all happy enough when you thought you had an advantage .Fools and their Coin easily parted .The Punters want cheapest fares .You are being sold a Tricolour not a Functioning Taxi hailing App .Irish owned Irish Run .Jack and the Fucking Beanstalk Stuff .The Emperor has no new clothes .The Billygoat Gruff is charging you all to cross the Bridge and you were all warned .
38 yer old jack Russell.... bmbl rofl
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Plato rofl
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Occi Big Dommo Got a Pushbike off the Butcher beside the Chipper when he closed because the Supermarket up the road had a Meat Counter .We use to call Eileen Buckley meat Counter next time were out drinking I will tell you why .Anyway back to the other Bike the one Big Dommo rode .The bottom of the Front Forks were painted white and the Rear bracket was also painted white .So he called the Bike the Minstrel after the 1977 Derby winner who had four white socks .Yeh the Dog was called Plato not after the Greek Philosopher just because he use to lick the dinner plates after the kids got fed .Nothing went to waste in Big Dommos Gaff .His Ma told him there were kids in Africa Starving any time he left food on his plate so he taught Plato to eat the leftovers .
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Anyone hazard a guess for the sweet spot target number of TaT drivers in Dublin, so that customer service was good? Clearly it would depend on amount of work availabe, but I think that if it got to 3000 drivers it would have critical mass, but then again that would only be about 20% of the total number of drivers in Dublin.
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Egg before Chicken before Egg before Chicken WHERE IS THE WORK ? You are looking at this all wrong First get the Work then Sell the App .Unfortunately Im Over Educated and above average Intelligence that is my Burden .Now I will tell you what I would of done and How .I would of Recruited All Drivers FREE no Sign Up costs no Freight .Give every driver Access to the App FREE .Get them to recruit Fares Get them to pony up a few notes to Advertise on their cars Decals for sale for the Price on Producing Them .QR codes in car to download the Passenger App .Encourage passengers to do it .
Now we have the Passengers and the Cars no waiting for a Taxi if every taxi is signed up and why not its FREE .Then after about 3 months setting Seeds .Drivers who want to remain pay to join anybody not interested gets Disconnected from the App .If people really believed in this they could of got Investors to cover the initial build out offered then small equity in return for investment .You wont sell an app if you dont have the Fares .Cart before the Horse .Halo did it with 4% initial offering in London .
Think what would of been needed a working App .Register on Line A passenger App register on line and every driver with a FREE Option to join .Instead 350 joining fee .That would exclude a lot of People from joining Pay Per Job would of encouraged lads to work prime times as no increase in Comission based on increase in Tarriffs . Small Quarterly Subscription on top to Stop the Bandits and pay the staff .
People seem to forget Taxi Apps sell the Passengers back to the Drivers if you have no passengers you have nothing to sell .Aiken Promotions Book the Band before they try sell the tickets . Not sell the tickets and then see if they can get a band to play.
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I kinda agree with John M. Subscriptions are not appealing unless you're full time.The sad thing is many of us aren't for various reasons.Full coverage is possible if the lads aren't paying while the app is offering nothing.
I dunno how or if the coop can facilitate pay per job but it's essential to getting the success of the other apps.
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How many drivers have they actually got using the app in dublin, I know they said they had something like 1500 at one point but a lot of them could be lads like me who have downloaded the app but havent signed up as members yet.
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Occi Big Dommo Got a Pushbike off the Butcher beside the Chipper when he closed because the Supermarket up the road had a Meat Counter .We use to call Eileen Buckley meat Counter next time were out drinking I will tell you why .Anyway back to the other Bike the one Big Dommo rode .The bottom of the Front Forks were painted white and the Rear bracket was also painted white .So he called the Bike the Minstrel after the 1977 Derby winner who had four white socks .Yeh the Dog was called Plato not after the Greek Philosopher just because he use to lick the dinner plates after the kids got fed .Nothing went to waste in Big Dommos Gaff .His Ma told him there were kids in Africa Starving any time he left food on his plate so he taught Plato to eat the leftovers .
You shud be writin for a livin johnny .... modern day strumpet city sort o ting .... lol
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I kinda agree with John M. Subscriptions are not appealing unless you're full time.The sad thing is many of us aren't for various reasons.Full coverage is possible if the lads aren't paying while the app is offering nothing.
I dunno how or if the coop can facilitate pay per job but it's essential to getting the success of the other apps.
Merch you get one chance to launch .Think it was a Jewish Mother told her Son Albert doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result gathers no moss or something like that .This app followed other failed effords but it was selling a Tricolour not work not a Solution to an Issue .They didnt even understand the Issue like I said I have above average Intelligence so saw the issue .PASSENGERS do not want to WAIT ,THEY WANT Service .THEY DO NOT WANT TO OVERPAY .booking fees digital fees .Ronseal have a great slogan DOES EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS ON THE CAN ! Simple .So Problem was PASSENGER needs NOT Driver NEEDS .So what they Shilled was this App is not UBER or FREE NOW Drivers Cheered but that was a solution to a different Problem .The Problem was Passengers wanted a service ,Solve that Problem you win .Im down the Flats with an Old Mate of Mine Big Dommo he loves an arguement .One Night we are sitting on the Stairs with a Block of Calvita Cheese and a few cans of Lidil Cider .I say to him ." Dommo you are a very clever man but can I say something to you ? You spend so much of your time winning or trying to win battles but you never win any Wars .You need to Focus on the destination not the road you travel " The idea was to win back OUR Customers we lost them originally because we didnt move with the times lads even objected to taking cards when that was what the customers wanted . THE CUSTOMER COMES FIRST ,LAST ,and ALWAYS . Build it and they will come .If we provided the best Service we could win back customers .Excluding drivers with a 350 entrance fee made this effort a non runner .Idea was good app run by drivers for drivers implimentation was not worthy of a secontry School entry to the Young Scientists .
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Anyone hazard a guess for the sweet spot target number of TaT drivers in Dublin, so that customer service was good? Clearly it would depend on amount of work availabe, but I think that if it got to 3000 drivers it would have critical mass, but then again that would only be about 20% of the total number of drivers in Dublin.
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Egg before Chicken before Egg before Chicken WHERE IS THE WORK ? You are looking at this all wrong First get the Work then Sell the App .Unfortunately Im Over Educated and above average Intelligence that is my Burden .Now I will tell you what I would of done and How .I would of Recruited All Drivers FREE no Sign Up costs no Freight .Give every driver Access to the App FREE .Get them to recruit Fares Get them to pony up a few notes to Advertise on their cars Decals for sale for the Price on Producing Them .QR codes in car to download the Passenger App .Encourage passengers to do it .
Now we have the Passengers and the Cars no waiting for a Taxi if every taxi is signed up and why not its FREE .Then after about 3 months setting Seeds .Drivers who want to remain pay to join anybody not interested gets Disconnected from the App .If people really believed in this they could of got Investors to cover the initial build out offered then small equity in return for investment .You wont sell an app if you dont have the Fares .Cart before the Horse .Halo did it with 4% initial offering in London .
Think what would of been needed a working App .Register on Line A passenger App register on line and every driver with a FREE Option to join .Instead 350 joining fee .That would exclude a lot of People from joining Pay Per Job would of encouraged lads to work prime times as no increase in Comission based on increase in Tarriffs . Small Quarterly Subscription on top to Stop the Bandits and pay the staff .
People seem to forget Taxi Apps sell the Passengers back to the Drivers if you have no passengers you have nothing to sell .Aiken Promotions Book the Band before they try sell the tickets . Not sell the tickets and then see if they can get a band to play.
Im out in taxi today after a month off ..... fn and bolt are completely dead .... not 1 offer .... ive got 1 job off of tap 28 quid ..... hopefully itll pick up in Sept
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Do you see My point Merch .Treating the Symptom Lads want an Irish Taxi App not UBER not Free Now .Thats a symptom, the Disease Is in latin Customer evaporatus .The Customers are gone .So get them back .Vera paid 30 for her spray n tan then 140 for her hairdo .She isint walking out to the Mainer to get a taxi she is going to App she wants a Car clean reliable and instant .You only need to give her that she is your customer for life .You let her down on the way home she forgets about the Great service you offered earlier .Nearest car will oblige driver not doing loops looking for you .If it was only costing a lad the price of the PUC he would not mind he didnt have to rank waste time .One extra job per shift would cover the PUC .PLEASE THE CUSTOMER .Big Paddy Clancy had the Cheapest winsow washing round lost all his customers by using dirty water and rags .Its not always about price SERVICE ,Reliability thats why the Big Two offer Bobo during peak times to keep the CUSTOMER HAPPY they dont give a fuck about the drivers .
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They've a big enough fund to be able to pivot (even temporarily) to pay per job. Once it gets a decent bit of coverage and work they can decide then what to do.Anyway running an app is a tough task for mostly newbies.Might take a while to figure it all out.
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They've a big enough fund to be able to pivot (even temporarily) to pay per job. Once it gets a decent bit of coverage and work they can decide then what to do.Anyway running an app is a tough task for mostly newbies.Might take a while to figure it all out.
I would think the Members bought into the model they bought into and people who dropped out would make their way to the Black Cloak brigade saying they were defrauded this is not what they signed up to and any change they demand their share is reinstated or bought out as the terms and conditions no longer apply .You know how this game works .?
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If there's not enough work on it for everyone it won't succeed. If the passengers don't have cover it wont succeed.Compromises will be made.I just treat it like any other app.Coop means nothing to me.If there's a job near me I'll cover it enthusiastically..
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Cover what
Fixed fare?
Is Tap actually worth joining
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Cover what
Fixed fare?
Is Tap actually worth joining
Think if you read through this tread it might help you decide .I wouldnt but Im against ALL apps .
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My TAT number is the the mid 1900's and a Cork colleague who joined 3 day before me, his number was 22 less than mine, so to hazard a guess TAT is at almost 2000 members and signing about 7 new drivers a day ??
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Nice one.... it's looking good.
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My TAT number is the the mid 1900's and a Cork colleague who joined 3 day before me, his number was 22 less than mine, so to hazard a guess TAT is at almost 2000 members and signing about 7 new drivers a day ??
That's very impressive if we are approaching 2000 drivers, I'm very glad to see that the momentum seems to be continuing. Despite the naysayer(s) this is the first real attempt to take back the business, and should be supported, albeit while continuing to get what some individuals need from the other apps, just write off an extra Sat night hour @ €27.70, and if there is an easy "on the drip" option for the €300. Be prepared for some "f$ck us up" tactics from the billionaire Trumpian apps now.
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...... and if there is an easy "on the drip" option for the €300. .....
I was thinking the same Harry, if they proposed E170 a month fer the first 6 months and then E120 a month after that they might entice a few more rather than hitting them with a first day E300 start-up.
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My TAT number is the the mid 1900's and a Cork colleague who joined 3 day before me, his number was 22 less than mine, so to hazard a guess TAT is at almost 2000 members and signing about 7 new drivers a day ??
That's very impressive if we are approaching 2000 drivers, I'm very glad to see that the momentum seems to be continuing. Despite the naysayer(s) this is the first real attempt to take back the business, and should be supported, albeit while continuing to get what some individuals need from the other apps, just write off an extra Sat night hour @ €27.70, and if there is an easy "on the drip" option for the €300. Be prepared for some "f$ck us up" tactics from the billionaire Trumpian apps now.
Is theire much work??
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...... and if there is an easy "on the drip" option for the €300. .....
I was thinking the same Harry, if they proposed E170 a month fer the first 6 months and then E120 a month after that they might entice a few more rather than hitting them with a first day E300 start-up.
Ide o paid €3000 knowing wats at stake .... apes quibblin bout a lousy € 300..... incomprehensible stupidity ..... sum yu are paying more than that in discounts to uber an lyft every month an are about to pay alot more ...
I warned yis uber wud start turning the screw down the road wen yis started takin them " discount " jobs an i was called an idiot .... im bean proven rite yet again ... I warned yis they will go 50% plus an i was told I was a fukin idiot ... ive a grand here if any yu dummies want to take a wager ?
Yis wer on here sayin the discounts are the same as the meter "sure they miten be as bad as ya tink " an i told yis they'd increase the discount on drivers but the passanger discount wud remain the same ... im rite again ..... in fact not only wer yu all rong ... now yisser given out fuk about uber extracting more and more of yur earnings .... you created the situation an niw yur given ou fuk .... pissin meself laffin
I dont tink any one o yous dummies realise wat uber has bean plannin for yers .... they are paying journalists to campaign for more taxis to reduce yur earnings tru dilution..... flood the market wit taxis then completely destroy it as a viable business .... get you dopes to retire first then work desperate immigrants to 100 hrs a week before they are forced out aswell ..... then they will pay more to oirish corrupt media to campaign for uber ride an put pressure on the queers in kildare street to bring in uber ride ..........
Yu idiots are assisting them in the destruction of yur own industry helping uber to doo so ....
Ya fell for the stickers , the priority medals , the bonuses the doughnuts an now yur gettin a large portion up the hole ...... I warned yis all these yers an thankfully ive prepared meself an dont need me taxi anymore .....
Heres me final warnin an prediction.... if tap fails its over ..... I told yis wen fixed fares came in last yer that yis wer all unemployed if did them fukin discounts .....
Thers nuttin more annoying than a cnut tellin ya " I told ya so " .... especially a mad cnut ..... but yisser are bringing it on yisser
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I TOLD YA SO
Yous oirish are so so dumb
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The number of drivers using apps has dropped since the last survey in 2024...
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/NTA-Taxi-Driver-Presentation.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/NTA-Taxi-Driver-Presentation.pdf)
"57% of drivers are affiliated with an app provider, decreasing from 66%" (2024 --> 2026)
(https://i.ibb.co/C5ND8VTg/taxi-app-use.jpg)
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The number of drivers using apps has dropped since the last survey in 2024...
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/NTA-Taxi-Driver-Presentation.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/NTA-Taxi-Driver-Presentation.pdf)
"57% of drivers are affiliated with an app provider, decreasing from 66%" (2024 --> 2026)
(https://i.ibb.co/C5ND8VTg/taxi-app-use.jpg)
https://www.lyft.com/blog/posts/an-update-for-drivers-now-the-lyft-fee-is-capped-every-month (https://www.lyft.com/blog/posts/an-update-for-drivers-now-the-lyft-fee-is-capped-every-month)
In fairness ta lyft ... yill "ONLY" be payin 30% ... O:-)
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Mmm, but it seems to be representative of c.900 drivers surveyed, would that apply uniformly accross the 27k+ drivers ?
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27k+ includes limo drivers, idle drivers, etc... probably less than 18k licenced taxis.
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Do it again in Feb 27
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Not hurting them too much yet, but a little maybe. If TaT can get supply to always match demand........"It doesn't hurt when it begins, but as it works its way on in the pain gets stronger, watch it grin"
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Not hurting them too much yet, but a little maybe. If TaT can get supply to always match demand........"It doesn't hurt when it begins, but as it works its way on in the pain gets stronger, watch it grin"
Hopefully ur right
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2078 on the Crofton!
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Fuk sake another Piranha in the tank... Leave some work for the rest of us RC.
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Quadapping scum I am now!