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Title: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: sore on October 27, 2017, 12:28:31 am

The pass mark has been reduced from 80% to 75% and module split introduced!!

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/taxi/latest-news-for-spsv-operators-2/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/taxi/latest-news-for-spsv-operators-2/)
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 27, 2017, 01:27:02 am
Not so bad. We're lucky the review was started before the economic recovery grew legs. Hopefully it'll be a while before it's revisited, perhaps after the next recession starts?
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 27, 2017, 08:46:59 am
Won't make a difference.5% is only one question.You either know yer stuff or you don't.Splitting the modules into different exams is pointless.The industry knowledge is the easy part.

They should have left it alone though,giving in to the whining fuks at Mytaxi and other despatch companies sets a bad precident.They don't have enough drivers because the service they provide is too expensive.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: john m on October 27, 2017, 09:00:10 am
Big Dommos Youngones youngfella had his Debs last Thursday he was the first one in Dommos family ever to pass the Inter Cert .He done the intercert applied .You know the one I mean, the one for thick kids just to let them say they passed some sort of test to prove that 13 years of education wasent wasted on them .Simplifying tests and exams seems to be the way we are going .Big Dommos oulfella once told me about a test he had .It was 1965 and he thought he had the pox .The pox Doctor who has an office across the road from the Rotunda Hospital gave him a test .He stuck an umberella needle up the eye of his flute now today you just piss in a bottle and the youngone in the office tests it there and then .Tests and exams just aint what the use to be .
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 27, 2017, 09:06:19 am
I'm confident that it's still tough enough to keep the mongs out.They'll simplify it again in a couple of years because 75% is too high for the cabbages.The worst thing about this is most of the fleet were too busy fretting over Uber rather than make any submissions on this issue.

By the way in case ya didn't know already it has been the tougher test that has been improving our income more than any other measure.This was the one to make submission on.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 27, 2017, 12:06:52 pm
They'll probably make the questions easier or make sure that a core set of questions that are known to relevant educators always appear. There's more than one way to dice a carrot.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 27, 2017, 12:14:20 pm
There are a few already that come up regularly.There must have been some negotiations with the testing company.More drivers won't have to re-sit at 75% pass rate so by breaking the exam in two portions they can charge a bit more for each half.Win win for the testers.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: john m on October 27, 2017, 12:16:39 pm
Most of the answers are in the questions .
Q1 How do you get from Dail Eireann on Kildare Street to Arus An Uchtarain on Chesterfield Avenue ?
Q76 .On what Street is Dail Eireann
Q 94 .On what street is Arus An Uchtarain .

 With drivers calling for clearer route maps on their apps why do you need to know anything about anywhere .The test should be simplified if you can use a satnav lift a suitcase and make small talk you should get a psv .
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 27, 2017, 12:21:19 pm
Shut up Erm it's kunts like you and Ken we need less of in this business.So busy wanking over Uber yer not keeping an eye on what really matters.Saps.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: john m on October 27, 2017, 12:25:40 pm
Shut up Erm it's kunts like you and Ken we need less of in this business.So busy wanking over Uber yer not keeping an eye on what really matters.Saps.

Your in a job that requires less ability than a courier .If you cant find your way you ask the passenger unlike a cardboard box that cant direct you .The real idiots in this game are the ones who think that they are somehow special  .
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 27, 2017, 12:30:58 pm
I'm not special just better prepared for my job than you are.Lads like you aren't cut out for self employment ,that's why there should be minimum standards for drivers.Too many pot washers not enough Chefs....
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: The Liffey Lip on October 27, 2017, 12:59:52 pm
If they allow primary kids who can't read or write "graduate" into second level...why not let fellas who drive a car for reward think they're special too? Yrs ago "special" meant slow or retarded...pity it had to be finessed up into a form of achievement.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: mercenary for hire on October 27, 2017, 01:17:41 pm
I still use the old meaning.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 27, 2017, 01:23:57 pm
I don't think small talk ought to be mandatory, erm. Some clients prefer awkward silence, others want to work/think, etc...
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: john m on October 27, 2017, 01:42:00 pm
Rodent .If you score 100% on the industry part of the test because you know what sticker goes where or what window you can tint or how many lego bricks you can fir in the boot of an occy .Does that count for 50% of the overall mark meaning that a 50% pass rate on the geography test will get you a pass or do you need to achieve 75% in each part of the test .
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 27, 2017, 01:49:59 pm
75% each. Surely that's enough without a small talk requirement. Punters only want to get from A to B safely.

There should be a lot more attention paid to a driver's ability to drive within the rules of the road. You wouldn't believe the number of licensed taxis that raced passed me on the Quays up above in Dublin las night while I was travelling at the maximum permissible speed of 30 kilos/hour. We desperately need investment in enforcement to rid the trade of these illegals. SPSV drivers should get double the penalty points awarded to private motorists in respect of breaches of the rules of the road.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Shallowhal on October 27, 2017, 01:50:56 pm
I don't think small talk ought to be mandatory, erm. Some clients prefer awkward silence, others want to work/think, etc...

Ermy should have the Samaritans phone number tattooed on the back of his head so!!
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Tony on October 27, 2017, 02:11:37 pm
I don't think small talk ought to be mandatory, erm. Some clients prefer awkward silence, others want to work/think, etc...

Ermy should have the Samaritans phone number tattooed on the back of his head so!!

 rofl
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: IrishTim1 on October 29, 2017, 12:17:30 am

The pass mark has been reduced from 80% to 75% and module split introduced!!

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/taxi/latest-news-for-spsv-operators-2/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/taxi/latest-news-for-spsv-operators-2/)

Thats a load of bollox, I failed 4 tests with scores over 75%, will these parasites be refunding me the costs of those tests.
Module slit as well? How are the Unions not up in arms over this.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Rat Catcher on October 29, 2017, 03:51:51 am
The unions sit on TAC, it's them that approved it. I guess it's hard not to when they've been busy telling anyone that'll listen that we've lost 20,000 men to better paid jobs since 2009. Which one do you subscribe to?
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Taxi driver42 on October 29, 2017, 05:33:08 am
Talking to  a guy in gym yesterday
Pakistan lad
Failed 3 times and paid 500 for a course that last s a month
Hoping to get it forth time
Asked me if I had any advice

Lol told him to buy a motorbike
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: john m on October 29, 2017, 10:43:52 am
If you are already at the top  of taxi driving and have completed an area test and then completed the Certified drivers test making you the cream de la cream of taxi drivers and you even got the Failte Ireland sticker .Do you still have to complete the Industry Knowledge part of the test again ,again ,or could you just do the Geography part of the test as you have clearly previously passed on a  few occasions  the Industry Knowledge .
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Taxi driver42 on October 29, 2017, 03:25:00 pm
U just do knowledge for different area
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: IrishTim1 on November 01, 2017, 12:57:15 am
The unions sit on TAC, it's them that approved it. I guess it's hard not to when they've been busy telling anyone that'll listen that we've lost 20,000 men to better paid jobs since 2009. Which one do you subscribe to?

They're full of shit, they didn't lose anyone to better paying jobs as such. Most left the game because it was impossible to earn a living, because the economy was stagnant and there were too many drivers and too many renters.
I was one of them, I'm now seriously thinking about putting a couple of wats on the road, maybe drive one and rent the other because the economy is picking up. If I found a better job I wouldn't even be considering getting back into it.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 01, 2017, 11:57:03 am
The vast majority were dormant licences not being renewed because Kathleen Doyle increased the renewal fee from €3 to €250.

Which union do you subscribe to?
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: The Liffey Lip on November 01, 2017, 12:10:57 pm
Talking to  a guy in gym yesterday
Pakistan lad
Failed 3 times and paid 500 for a course that last s a month
Hoping to get it forth time
Asked me if I had any advice

Lol told him to buy a motorbike

Recruiting you for ISIS and you never flinched....you're in.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: john m on November 01, 2017, 12:27:42 pm
42 GYM ......
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Theoneandonly on November 05, 2017, 04:40:18 pm
I'm confident that it's still tough enough to keep the mongs out.They'll simplify it again in a couple of years because 75% is too high for the cabbages.The worst thing about this is most of the fleet were too busy fretting over Uber rather than make any submissions on this issue.

By the way in case ya didn't know already it has been the tougher test that has been improving our income more than any other measure.This was the one to make submission on.

It's being reported that many prospective taxi drivers having passed the test(s) are being kept at bay either by extortionate insurance quotes or the inability to even obtain a quote, dumbing down the test will have no bearing on this

Ps. Will those who achieved a score between 75% and 80% previosly now retrospectively receive pass standard? This seems only fair.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: mercenary for hire on November 05, 2017, 05:05:14 pm
Yeah I'm sure there are a few being kept out by insurance.But you need a clean licence with PSV experience to get a reasonable quote for yer own policy.Renting is the only realistic entry point (unless you've got 20k sitting in the bank for a mini wat).I'm fairly sure it costs new lads with clean licences about 3k to go on a renter's policy although I'm open to correction as usual.

So here's another problem...if a driver is capable enough to get through the new test maybe he/she realised it's actually a shit job and not worth breaking yer bollox to clear a 500 a week after expenses.I know I wouldn't come near this industry if I had to rent.The only solution is get more morons that don't mind working 60 or 70 hours a week to scrape by.How do we get more morons?Make the test easier.What could possibly go wrong?

Anyway I'm out for a few pints amd some grub I hope I don't have to walk far for a taxi home..
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Jack Meoff on November 05, 2017, 06:08:57 pm
Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 07:14 am
A Dublin City Councillor is warning that the city risks returning to a taxi shortage because of rocketing insurance premiums.

Fianna Fáil's Paul McAuliffe says that taxi drivers are being forced to leave the industry.

He says he has already been inundated by complaints from many Dublin residents who have been left waiting for "Well we've seen increasingly over the past three years the cost of car insurance increase, but those in the taxi industry have been particularly impacted," he said.

"The real issue now is that we're being increasingly getting taxi drivers who are coming to us saying that they can't enter the market because insurance companies will not insure them.

"This week alone, I've had two people contacting me saying that they just cannot get a quote."
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 05, 2017, 07:54:02 pm
Taxi drivers are a huge risk for insurance companies. As a group we have no respect for the rules of the road. Only last night I was driving down O'connell St at the maximum permissible speed of 30 kilos/hour and was passed by 17 taxis, 17 reckless morons racing down that small stretch of road with impunity. Insurance premiums will continue to increase until some politician makes the Gardai get up off their fat lazy arses and enforce the law.

Apps have a part to play, too. Taxis meandering down roads, completely out of control, while their drivers focus on tiny screens is commonplace in suburbia these days.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: mercenary for hire on November 06, 2017, 07:59:10 am
Do ya still need a clean licence to apply for yer PSV?...We had no penalty points up until a few years ago which I'm sure plays a part in increased policies and possibly excluding new entrants.

Bottom line is the insurance industry used to have 20000 PSV holders paying small premiums now they need to charge more to fewer(12000?) drivers to cover the taxi/limo book.

Took me ten seconds to find a taxi lastnight.We need to teach our new batch of snowflakes how to find a taxi late at night.The days of standing off the main road and expecting multiple taxis to be on standby begging for business won't be back anytime soon.Just because the apps don't work it doesn't mean there are no cabs available.Maybe the NTA could do a video tutorial for passengers about how to put yer arm in the air?How to walk away from the 200 people on the rank on New year's and get a cab on the quays?
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Rat Catcher on November 06, 2017, 12:10:33 pm
When they say clean licence they generally mean no endorsements. PSV licences shouldn't be issued or renewed to any driver with penalty points and PSV/HGV drivers should get double penalty points.... and the rules of the road should be enforced to ensure penalty points are issued where earned. Even at that there's still going to be staged crashes involving taxis that impact on insurance premiums.

Almost a whole generation has been deprived of the craic to be had queuing for a taxi late at night. Punters used to love queuing, the youngsters still love queuing to get into disco bars... many a young man got his end away on foot of chatting up young ladies in queues. I daresay babies, some long term relationships and even marriages resulted.
Title: Re: SPSV Entry Test dumbed down
Post by: Belker on November 07, 2017, 11:46:40 am
Almost a whole generation has been deprived of the craic to be had queuing for a taxi late at night. Punters used to love queuing, the youngsters still love queuing to get into disco bars... many a young man got his end away on foot of chatting up young ladies in queues. I daresay babies, some long term relationships and even marriages resulted.

Loving It !  rofl