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Public Area => Sports and Gambling => Topic started by: john m on November 20, 2017, 11:46:48 pm
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Kelly has Leo on the ropes Department of justice confirm that Franny Fits did know that the gards were trying to shaft the whistelblower Mc Cabe in 2015 so she lied to the Dail.Kenny lied to the Dail and Leo lied to the Dail .You cant have a government that lies and GETS CAUGHT .If Kelly goes for the jugular this government might collapses .FF might decide to vote no confidence now that SF are leaderless .
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What price now Rodent Franny Fits ordered to address the Dail and tell the truth order of business to be changed to allow the Lynch mob have a go at her .
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Was it Watergate where they said it wasn't the crime that did for Nixon, it was the cover-up?
Crucial question is whether the TD's, esp the Independents, have enough service to get their big, fat, juicy pensions?
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im on @150/1 FG are in a mess FF might withdraw their support SF are leaderless ,ruraldrink driving post office closures homelessness and Brexit all traditional FF bread and butter issues .If FF smell blood then its game over .Fran did a deal with Leo to not run in the leadership contest in return for the FG presidential nomination that deal is now dead Leo might fuck her under the bus if he thinks it might save him .Watch Canny of the Alliance he is FF cuckoo in the nest .
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Tánaiste acknowledges 2015 email
21 Nov 2017 23:11
Tánaiste Frances Fitzgerald has told the Dáil that she was told by her department last Thursday that they had located an email in relation to the legal strategy of the former garda commissioner, which was sent to her on 15 May 2015.
She also told the house that the Taoiseach had spoken to Sergeant McCabe by telephone this evening in the last two hours and 'had a conversation with him about some of the issues in the email'.
Tánaiste: 'neither I nor the Department of Justice had any hand, act or part in the legal strategy of the former commissioner' pic.twitter.com/crg1E0DsEl
She said the email - which was circulated to members of the Dáil this evening - highlighted a disagreement that had arisen between the legal teams at the Commission representing Sgt McCabe and former garda commissioner Nóirín O'Sullivan.
She said the email indicated that counsel for An Garda Síochána has raised an allegation of a serious criminal complaint against Sgt McCabe, which had previously been made.
Ms Fitzgerald said the email stated that Sgt McCabe had always denied this.
The email released this evening in the #dail @rtenews pic.twitter.com/VLjU2h6DBa
The email said that counsel for Sgt McCabe objected to this issue being raised and asked if the Garda Commissioner had authorised this approach.
Ms O'Sullivan's authoritisation was confirmed in the email, although this was understood to be subject to further legal advice.
Ms Fitzgerald said this matter was already on the public record from the opening of the Disclosure's Tribunal.
She said the concluding point in the email advised that the Minister had no function and she said she could have no role in questioning the evidence given by a third party.
Ms Fitzgerald also insisted that she had no hand, act or part in the legal strategy against Sgt McCabe.
She added that said she learned of the details that emerged in May 2016, which emerged from leaked transcripts.
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The Latin word Alibi, I was elsewhere, springs to mind. Leo seems always to have one....attending gay parades is a clever alibi indeed.
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The Latin word Alibi, I was elsewhere, springs to mind. Leo seems always to have one....attending gay parades is a clever alibi indeed.
Leo wasent by her side last night ,lets see if SF put down a motion of no confidence in Fran if they do then the government have two choices let the vote proceed and trow her ovrboard or what is normal they reject the motion of no confidence and replace it with their own motion of confidence in her but to put the gun to FF heads they might instead of putting a motion in favour of Fran down for a vote FG might put down a vote of confidence in the entire government this would force a general election if FF dont abstain or vote confidence ,
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150/1 about there being a general election, erm? Go away out of that you lying cunt. It's as sure as night follows day. General elections are held every 5 years at the outside.
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150/1 a december 2017 election you were with me when i put the bet on .the issue is do we live in a Republic or a Banana ,The gards gave falsw evidence against one of their own ,how can an ordinary decent criminal expect justice if the gards cant be trusted .If no politician has a problem with that we are fucked .
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You didn't specify any time limit in this thread. 150/1 seems fair for 2017.
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The Latin word Alibi, I was elsewhere, springs to mind. Leo seems always to have one....attending gay parades is a clever alibi indeed.
Leo wasent by her side last night ,lets see if SF put down a motion of no confidence in Fran if they do then the government have two choices let the vote proceed and trow her ovrboard or what is normal they reject the motion of no confidence and replace it with their own motion of confidence in her but to put the gun to FF heads they might instead of putting a motion in favour of Fran down for a vote FG might put down a vote of confidence in the entire government this would force a general election if FF dont abstain or vote confidence ,
Bigger picture is staring you in the face....again.
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SF doing the maths deciding if they will put down a motion of no confidence in Fran they have until 4.30 this afternoon to try to get a motion debated and enough time if the government falls for an election before christmas .Mary Lou had a great observation this morning that the e mail was actually sent before the case started not after it started .The big issue I think for SF is can they get into government in the republic to counterbalance the DUP in the UK ,If they think the answer is yes then they will go for it .
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The SF heirs apparent haven't got what it takes to counter the Brits or their lapdogs, the DUP. Surprised Pearse has ruled himself out of the race all the same. He's a very capable and competent man. Maybe he knew it would be unwise to try going against the grain whereby having a pair of baps and subscribing to Hello! magazine are mandatory to running every organisation.
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Doing some back of the envelope stuff .All the independent alliance TDS should lose their seats .PBFP WILL LOSE AT LEAST 2 joan collins and geno labour no gain possibly BURTON wont stand .so the math is simple if SF can get between 18 and 28 TDs they are guarenteed to be in government .IF they think they can get that many they will push Fran in the hope FF backs them and if they do then the supply and confidence is broken as FF will have voted against a government minister .Its now a numbers game has nothing to do with FRAN .
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Sounds exciting.
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Capo Di Tutti Capi needs to be elected first.
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Capo Di Tutti Capi needs to be elected first.
no need for a conductor if you dont have a gig . the 1 oc news MARY lou goes for it .No confidence motion in Fran then Leo must decide does he put down a motion of confidence in her first to force FF hand if she loses then a general election is on ,
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SF just announced a no confidence motion in Fran ....now what does Big MICK Do lol lol lol lol lol lol.must root out that bookies docket just in case .
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You live in hope alright. No appetite for an election...it's all about Zeitgeist.
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Ms McDonald said it was time for the Tánaiste to step aside.
Attention will now turn to Fianna Fáil who are in a confidence and supply arrangement with Fine Gael. If they seek Ms Fitzgerald’s resignation it could spark a general election in the days before Christmas. lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
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A Long Shot .Mick tells Leo the gig is up .Leo goes on the Radio or Telly says .That the constant sniping from SF and numerous votes of confidence put down by them and defeated is leading to instability and delay in important government work .To provide strong government especially in the lead up to Brexit Leo has decided to call a general election for the Friday before Christmas .(This gets the Irish Government off the hook when it comes to objecting to Phase two of the Brexit negotiation going ahead as they can say there was no irish government in place at the time .Then I can claim me few grand in time for the Leopardstown Races .
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Sounds exciting.
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long shot rodent but Leo might decide now is the time to actually be elected taoiseach ,its a numbers game unless there is a cupboard full of skeleton hidden somewhere .My best guess is Leo goes for it ,better to be seen as leading than having been pushed .
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I hope your right John M, but I really doubt it, the news broke just a little too late in the year.
The Dail breaks fer their 4 week Chrimbo holiday in just 3 weeks time and the next debate on
the subject isin't till the 29th Nov.
No way are Irish politicians giving up their Chrimbo break fer anything as trivial as a General Election !
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P.P. aren't even quoting fer a 2017 election. Their betting is 1/3 2018, 9/4 2019, Etc.
No quote offered fer 2017 ??
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/irish-politics/next-irish-general-election/date-of-election (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/irish-politics/next-irish-general-election/date-of-election)
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/irish-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2106837 (http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/irish-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2106837)
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you couldnt make a market Ken the TDS would have inside info .My ace in the hole is not FF its Sean Canny of the Independence Aliance if one of the alliance jumps ship the rest of the rats might head for high ground .its about a 7/4 shot Ken no more .If you see TDs loading boxes of prepaid envelopes into the boot of the Audi its game on .
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Even Money Ken if it goes to a vote O Callighan says FF will not vote confiidence in Fran .
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Even Money Ken if it goes to a vote O Callighan says FF will not vote confiidence in Fran .
@ John M, it's not Even Money, it's about a 100/1 shot.
How your misses lets you out in the morning with cash in your pocket is a mystery to me !
I would take more of your money off you on an Even Money bet, or even at 7/4,
or even at 10/1. But I feel guilty enough already after stealing a Deuce off you this year.
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http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/politician-labelled-disgraceful-after-calling-11575819 (http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/politician-labelled-disgraceful-after-calling-11575819)
A former Ulster Unionist politician was involved in a spat on social media after describing Taoiseach Leo Varadkar as “the Indian”.
John Taylor, who now calls himself Lord Kilclooney, was replying to a post on Twitter that quoted Simon Coveney wanting a united Ireland in his “political lifetime”.
He tweeted: “Simon Coveney is stirring things up. Very dangerous non statesman like role! Clearly hoping to undermine the Indian.”
In other posts explaining the tweet the life peer claimed the offensive nickname was “shorthand for poof an Indian surname which I could not spell”.
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Even Money Ken if it goes to a vote O Callighan says FF will not vote confiidence in Fran .
@ John M, it's not Even Money, it's about a 100/1 shot.
How your misses lets you out in the morning with cash in your pocket is a mystery to me !
I would take more of your money off you on an Even Money bet, or even at 7/4,
or even at 10/1. But I feel guilty enough already after stealing a Deuce off you this year.
This government is finished Ken the issue now is when is the election ?As I posted earlier the EU /Germany would be obliged if Leo and Mick could arrange for a general election in December as this would mean that there would be no authoritative Irish voice to protest the moving on to phase two of the Brexit negations and both major parties would have cover later on by saying there was an election at the time so they relied on their EU colleagues to steer the negations .Its a coin flip Kenneth depending on what they have been told to do by the EU .If the game is straight the election will be on Friday 21st or 28th EU would like friday the 14th .If Leo is to play the game .Expect him to come out today and say something like .This deplorable political stunt by FF /Sf is undermining the operations of the government in the run up to very important Brexit decisions and that he wont accept this and has decided for the good of the country to dissolve the government and go to the country .
I wouldnt take 10s but my docket is at least live and im getting a run for my money .
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Seems Leo has her back which should alert her to the very real prospect of the door very soon! Gargles are on John M after all.
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Singles only. Applies to the year in which the next Irish general election takes place.
2017 10/1
2018 1/14
2019 8/1
2020 16/1
2021 or later 33/1
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Singles only. Applies to the year in which the next Irish general election takes place.
2017 10/1
2018 1/14
2019 8/1
2020 16/1
2021 or later 33/1
Death by bookmaker.
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Fuck it you got to put your money where your mouth is latest betting 2017 3/1
2018 1/5
2019 10/1
2020 25/1
2021 or later 33/1
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Next government FG/SF /Lab coalition
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Leo won't be getting a majority and Micheál would be doing well to take 4 extra seats. So, what shape will this new rainbow coalition take? Can you see Mary-Lou and Dr Verruca teaming up............... rofl
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Alan Shuttlecock to retake his seat with General O'Duffy's grandson to re-enter the fray in Rathgar.
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Im just looking through a few constituencies .The Loonie Left Gino Kenny gone Joanna Tuffy in his place .Joan Collins gone Cathrine Ardagh in .Ross to lose Mc Grath IA +1 Ff . Halligan AI out +1 FF Thats 3 for FF Cork Mick Barry PBP gone ?Posh Doc in Galway Gone Canny Gone ? another one for FF Adams SF wont take two in Louth +1 FF .There wont be a lot in it .If I got good odds I would back the Draw both Big parties to get the same .Boxer Moran should also lose in Westmeath .The King makers will be SF .Best bet available at the moment FG/SF 25/1 with the Patrick Power betting Emporium .
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25/1 for a very good reason John. Can you imagine W.T.'s party in bed with Arthur Griffith's new Shinner all-female party?
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Alan Shuttlecock to retake his seat with General O'Duffy's grandson to re-enter the fray in Rathgar.
No I had Mick in the motor one night he was on his way to the launch of his old enemy's book Gay Mitchell he says he is finished with Politics ,to quote him the fun has gone out of it ..Alan wont stand the party dont want or like him plus now that Leo has the big Chair his ego/Ambition would be unrequited ,He made a big thing of clearing his good name down the four gold mines so I suppose a gown and wig is his preferred seat now .If I were a betting man and not an investor I wouls say court of criminal appeal .
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25/1 for a very good reason John. Can you imagine W.T.'s party in bed with Arthur Griffith's new Shinner all-female party?
Yes .
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Doubt it man...really do. He purportedly cannot stand overbearing females. On the other hand, Fine Gael translated means the tribe of the Irish, and We Ourselves might fit into the narrow narrative espoused by all Fine Gaelers from the past..."The true party of a neo-liberal, conservative Irish man".
The forum for females in politics seems to transcend party loyalties so maybe if Lucinda makes a comeback, herself and the Knocklyon bombshell could work something out?
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The Serpant once raised up in the Dail after FF delivered the budget .Hissing and Spitting Mick drawled in his best Limerick Tinkers Accent .The Minnnnnister For Finnnnnance has delivered a right cunt of a budget (poetic Licence ) But the bollox dosent care the country is fucked its like a car parked above on a couple of cinder blocks its going nowhere fast .(Typical noonan tell us that its going nowhere then tell as what rate its standing still ) Any hoo he then said Albert didnt give a bit of a fuck if the car was going nowhere as long as he was allowed to sit in the drivers seat .Dont mind all the anamosity spite and hatered between Leo and Repunsel she will let down her hair and leo will use it to climbe to the top of his Ivory Tower .Id say they both buy their make up in the same Booths in Blanchardstown .
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Just heard Ming was arrested in Brussels for trying to crash an EU defence meeting convened on the quiet....Leo selling our Irish hoops down the neutral swannee...
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Just heard Ming was arrested in Brussels for trying to crash an EU defence meeting convened on the quiet....Leo selling our Irish hoops down the neutral swannee...
I did post .After Brexit when Leo/Mick .Fulvio the Exterminator or whoever becomes taoiseach will have a decision to make .Respect Mastricht and follow European Instructions or Respect the Good Friday agreement and Respect the Irish People .This will lead to civil unrest on the Island Of Ireland .Now Ireland Does not have a standing army that can defend the State we also have a dysfunctional Police service .We cannot invite the Army of another country in to help defend the state but if we were members of a standing EU army or Nato then we could invite our allies to barrack here and imply that we had military might in reserve as we could call on our ALLIES .Irish neutrality will be sacrificed in practice but not in principle as it already is by rendition flights through Shannon and arms movement.
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Fat Lad in Clondalkin must find that docket ,,,,Singles only. Applies to the year in which the next Irish general election takes place.
2017 13/8
2018 3/10
2019 14/1
2020 25/1
2021 or later 33/1
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Irish neutrality was signed away when we took the 100 billion in subvention for our waters, estimated value 200 billion in 2001. That said, Nice and Lisbon twice, reinforced the notion that we could never shake a stick at Merkel and her rathaus knaves or Mitterand's rent boys.
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Now watch the shit hit the Fan Tessy May just said that there was a possibility that NI could stay inside the Eu trading Union .DUP will be fucking furious .As I posted this is more to do with what the EU wants than FRANS LIES .
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Latest Betting ...Singles only. Applies to the year in which the next Irish general election takes place.
2017 5/4
2018 8/15
2019 20/1
2020 33/1
2021 or later
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5/4 in a two horse race is a big outsider I think Fran might walk ten its up to leo to let her .
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Even Money Ken if it goes to a vote O Callighan says FF will not vote confiidence in Fran .
@ John M, it's not Even Money, it's about a 100/1 shot.
How your misses lets you out in the morning with cash in your pocket is a mystery to me !
I would take more of your money off you on an Even Money bet, or even at 7/4,
or even at 10/1. But I feel guilty enough already after stealing a Deuce off you this year.
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2017 10/11
2018 10/11
2019 20/1
2020 33/1
2021 or later
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I trust we'll be convening in Toners for you to collect and plot the next coup.
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I trust we'll be convening in Toners for you to collect and plot the next coup.
Goes without saying but dont put the donkey before the cart its up to the Germans if there will be an election Mick and Leo are probably in the Shelbourne Bar waiting for Rodrick the bar man to tell them they are wanted on the phone out in the lobby some foreign sounding bird wants to shout at them .
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Listning to mister veradkur on the news .I think he wants an election but I just had a phone call asking for a lend of my ladders .so fingers crossed .
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Listning to mister veradkur on the news .I think he wants an election but I just had a phone call asking for a lend of my ladders .so fingers crossed .
My local young councillor is on the mooch already. Small man with bumfluff and FF diehard. You know there's no age limit on training to be a hedge-fund manager, John? Think your talents are wasted trying to educate rump steaks. You might be good at it...
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Eminem(Mickey Martin) has offered Leo an out....no election if Franco goes.
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Here is how I see it .The shinners were dealt a pair of 5s Fg 9.deuce FF 10 4 ..on the flop nobody improved so the shinners upped the bet to no confidence thinking that FG would accept the challenge and up the bet by putting down a counter bet of a confidence vote in FRAN FF abstain the government wins the vote .But FF then called and raised by saying they wont support FRAN so now both big boys are pot committed waiting on the river card SF still have best hand as their motion is still down FF cant fold now if they do Mick is Finished FG are pot comitted if they sack FRAN they lose if they even accept FRANs resignation FF can shit in Leos Mouth any time they like .The only way is to turn the river card and play out the game .The joker has not yet been played Alan Kelly knows more than he has showing he continues to ask questions in the Dail that nobody wants to answer .My gut is A general election Leo needs one and if Martin dosent get one he is finished .
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Jaysus, Kafka would be in ha'penny place if you were his editor...
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Some lads get their jollies watching Sky Sports others watch the porn channel I get off watching Oireachtas TV .That 10/1 that Pathrick Power betting Emporium was offering yesterday morning didnt last long . lol lol lol
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I believe people who study the behaviour of others within a certain environment is called Epigenetics. Metacognitively speaking, you are just watching people do what you really want to be doinh....which is why I watch Ron Jeremy movies.
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I come from the school of why and what .When I see somebody doing something I ask WHY then I ask myself WHAT would I do only when both these lines disect can you understand the reason .
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You want to be an usher...I want to be able to have sex with women who don't want anything in return...bisect....not disect...
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You want to be an usher...I want to be able to have sex with women who don't want anything in return...bisect....not disect...
No disect is correct you must cut right through the crap to understand it just comming across it and thinking you understand it is what catches the fool out .
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Bisect is where 2 forces meet and cross each other. Dissection involves opening up a cadaver for a sample of tissue. You need bisection in Maths for 2 opposing forces to engage.
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disect dig down into the crap sort of like looking for a diamond in a goats shit infested arse .In our game why did they stop transfer of licences and introduce a moritorium ,why did they alloy you to incorporate your plate .Why unlike every other form of public transport are all taxies not accessible .Why did they allow a death transfer .Dont just look at it try to disect it pull it to pieces .Governmet want a bespoke door to door transport provider just like they wanted a door to door bespoke letter delivery service but unlike the post office they want somebody else to foot the bill .Now look at what happened to the post office costs kept increasing and other service providers came into the industry driverless letters ie e mails took a huge slice out of the profits .This game will go the same DHL will be mirrored wit the likes of Mytaxi or UBER or others providing the vehicles and the drivers will drive deliver pizza ,post or people the government dont give a fuck who provides the service as long as there is a service and they get their share .Interesting line by Kelly he wants all drivers aligned to a dispatcher and a cashless service .Lets see how long before Ambassador rated drivers are offered a dispatch plus company vehicle deal from Peugeot/Daimler as long as they have a plate .Only the big mator manufacturers could cover the costs of this type of scheme forcing out the bit players from the dispatch game .All the ingredients are there in the taxi review bill.
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Economics...dividing a pizza you bought for a fiver into as many parts as possible for a profit....Kosher Nostra.
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150/1 a december 2017 election you were with me when i put the bet on .
If you are on 2017 @ 150/1 John M, then you need to 'Hedge' out fast @ 4/6 on 2018
with a very small saver on 2019 @ 50/1.
Current betting is;
4/6 2018.
11/10 2017.
50/1 2019.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/irish-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2106837 (http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/irish-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2106837)
Personally I can't see a December election, our politicians just won't go out in the cold and wet to campain,
neither will they give up their Chrimbo holidays to form a new government, get on the 4/6 'Saver' Fast !
My guess is that it will be 50/1 2017,
1/100 2018 and 25/1 2019 by next Wednesday.
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I really hope you bring this one home John M and gain some serious Bragging rights
and also get to call it Quits on that poxy Deuce I stole off you.
BUT HEDGE @ 4/6 !
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P.P. aren't even quoting fer a 2017 election. Their betting is 1/3 2018, 9/4 2019, Etc.
No quote offered fer 2017 ??
It will be interesting to see how PP react if there is a 2017 election seeing as
no quote was offered fer a 2017 election in their market.
The old bookmaking Adage was; "If you can't win, then ya can't Lose !".
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I really hope you bring this one home John M and gain some serious Bragging rights
and also get to call it Quits on that poxy Deuce I stole off you.
BUT HEDGE @ 4/6 !
Cant hedge Ken if Leo wins this high pissing contest then Martin wont be able to not support the next budget so not certain of a 2018 election
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P.P. aren't even quoting fer a 2017 election. Their betting is 1/3 2018, 9/4 2019, Etc.
No quote offered fer 2017 ??
It will be interesting to see how PP react if there is a 2017 election seeing as
no quote was offered fer a 2017 election in their market.
The old bookmaking Adage was; "If you can't win, then ya can't Lose !".
were offering 16/1 2017 untilthe middle of October then when Noreen went over board they removed it im sure they thought the issue was settled .My hedge of backing December was to cover my bet that O Sullivan would be Garda Commissioner on December 31 my thinking was if she was gone the Government lost their shield and the shit would fly .
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I really hope you bring this one home John M and gain some serious Bragging rights
and also get to call it Quits on that poxy Deuce I stole off you.
BUT HEDGE @ 4/6 !
Cant hedge Ken if Leo wins this high pissing contest then Martin wont be able to not support the next budget so not certain of a 2018 election
Can't Hedge or Won't 'Hedge' ?
If'n ya has a Tenner @ 150/1 a 2017 election (which I reckon won't happen).
Then have 900 to win 600 @ 4/6 on a 2018 election and Win a Monkee+ either way,
with a very small Saver on a 2019 election.
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cant bet on a 2018 election Ken If the government falls then its December if the government dosent fall then John MC guinness who fucking hates Micks shadow and would drown the bastard in a cup of his own kids piss will challenge Martin for the FF leadership there will be so much infighting in FF they will have to rebuild and that will force them to stick with the confidence and supply arrangement until Leo decides its time to kick them .The only bet is 2017 I cant make a case for any other date that I could bet on .
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If ya do really have this bet @ 150/1, then call me or PM me or email me,
and I will walk you through the process of how to make a Monkee+ out of it,
regardless of the result.
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If ya do really have this bet @ 150/1, then call me or PM me or email me,
and I will walk you through the process of how to make a Monkee+ out of it,
regardless of the result.
I dont want a monkey Im all in .
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cant bet on a 2018 election Ken If the government falls then its December if the government dosent fall then John MC guinness who fucking hates Micks shadow and would drown the bastard in a cup of his own kids piss will challenge Martin for the FF leadership there will be so much infighting in FF they will have to rebuild and that will force them to stick with the confidence and supply arrangement until Leo decides its time to kick them .The only bet is 2017 I cant make a case for any other date that I could bet on .
OK, Stick it out ! I reckon that you will lose your lot, call me and
you'll be a Monkee Quids in 'Guaranteed' !
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If ya do really have this bet @ 150/1, then call me or PM me or email me,
and I will walk you through the process of how to make a Monkee+ out of it,
regardless of the result.
I dont want a monkey Im all in .
I can Respect that !
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Fook PP !
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I just got in Joe and went to a PP office and asked fer 6 Ton to win 4 on a 2018 Election.
I was offered a pox Deuce @ 4/6, I declined their offer.
Went to another PP office and asked fer 3 Ton to win Two, after being told by PP staff
that the price was 4/6. I was then told that it was now 4/9 !
I didn't think miz ugly mug would alarm so many Bells after so many years !
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IM smelling cordite ,it looks like they are setting FRAN up .A second memo has turned up that says somebody told somebody something about something but did FRAN tell something that someone told so did the cabinet know the story when they voted confidence in the commissioner .
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PP drifted the 4/9 '2018' out to 4/7 and cut '2017' from 13/8 to 11/10,
after refusing miz me 6 to win 4 yesterday.
Still well worth a gamble @ 4/7, but I'm not going out to be refused a second time.
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PP drifted the 4/9 '2018' out to 4/7 and cut '2017' from 13/8 to 11/10,
after refusing miz me 6 to win 4 yesterday.
Still well worth a gamble @ 4/7, but I'm not going out to be refused a second time.
Cant see value in 4/7 2018 .If the soldiers of destiny dont take them out now after being marched up to the top of the hill they will need time to lick their wounds might have to regroup for 18 months just to regain any credit ability .Saying that if FG have them on the ropes Leo if they back down might see it as a weakness and pull the plug early in the new year .
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The betting is back to 4/9, 13/8 again,
They must be reading my posts !!
lol
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Have a look out the window John M, it's pissing rain and freezing cold.
Politicians don't like campaining in pissing rain and cold conditions.
Neither do they want any upset to their Chrimbo holiday break.
The 2017 election ain't gonna happen.
Fook PP fer refusing me miz small few quid.
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Dont know Ken young people ie SF voters dont like their false tan getting wet rural honest to god early rising hard working middle class voters will do their duty .Im sure the number crunchers are profiling constituencies as we type trying to forcast the result If they both think they can do well then who knows .I have a live docket that was dead in the drawer last week and im getting good entertainment value out of it .But it would be nice to trouser 3K .
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Ya gotta get outta that bet John M, even @ 4/9, have 9 Ton to win 4 (with a Nifty '2019+' Saver @ 12/1) and have something to show fer it.
Ya won't get it all on in one PP shop, so spread it around, have 180 to win 80 in 5 different PP offices, that should keep you 'Under the Rader' !
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8/15 now, I'll happily have 750 to win 4 if I thought de Kounts would lay me.
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'Three's On' now fer a 2018 Election, prob still a good price !
I tried to Play at 4/6, but they were a step ahead of me !
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I would have to reread the constitution Ken but I think there is a provision that requires an election within 20 working days excluding weekends and bankholidays but I am not certain .Check before you bet .
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I offered my advice, you didn't take it.
I really hope you Win, but I doubt it.
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I offered my advice, you didn't take it.
I really hope you Win, but I doubt it.
Its only a score Ken Im getting plenty of Milage out of it ....CANT SEE HOW MARTIN CAN BACK OFF SHE AND THE GOVERNMENT VOTED CONFIDENCE IN NORIEN O SULLIVAN AND THEY KNEW ..The person who wrote the email did not recall writing it. The minister he wrote for does not recall reading it.
If we are to have an election "over one email" as has been stated repeatedly over recent days, let’s take a close look at that email and what it tells us about how the role of the Department of Justice and its minister in this sorry affair.
The email was written by Michael Flahive, an assistant secretary in the Department of Justice.
He explains in the email that he had taken a call from Richard Barrett, Deputy Secretary General in the Office of the Attorney General.
He wrote that Mr Barrett had told him that the garda commissioner’s legal team had raised a very serious criminal allegation that had been made against Maurice McCabe.
He presumed this was being raised so that the garda commissioner could argue that it was relevant to his motivation.
He wrote that counsel for Sgt McCabe had objected and asked if this approach had been authorised by the garda commissioner.
He said Mr Barrett had told him the garda commissioner’s authorisation had been reaffirmed.
Finally he said he and Mr Barrett had agreed that neither of their bosses, the attorney nor the minister, "had a function" in relation to the evidence that a party to a Commission of Investigation may adduce.
This was hot breaking news. This was no junior official passing on title-tattle. This was one of the most senior figures in the AG’s office who immediately realised that the minister needed to know what had just happened.
The email was sent to the secretary general, the assistant secretary in charge of crime and security, and a senior official in the Policing Section as well as the minister’s private secretary, at three minutes to five - just one hour after counsel for the garda commissioner had reaffirmed his instructions at the commission.
It was forwarded on to the minister and her political advisers just seven minutes later.
While the email correctly revealed that there had been a row at the commission, the account of what the row was about is a garbled version of what had actually taken place.
The explanation for this is that its author did not want to refer to the nature of the criminal complaint for confidentiality reasons but knew that by referring to the fact that it was the case considered by the Independent Review Mechanism, the minister would know what was at play.
In any case, the person who had passed on this information was not cc’d on the email so if something was lost in translation the original source would not have been in a position to correct it.
The key questions are this: Why would Richard Barrett be in such a rush to let the minister know about this development if she was powerless to intervene? Could it be that while he believed that there was little she could do to stop the garda commissioner from introducing any evidence at a private inquiry, that the minister may want to respond to this development politically?
Remember, the information was also passed to the minister’s political advisers.
The minister was being told that the garda commissioner was taking issue with the garda whistleblower’s motives.
This was despite the Guerin Report finding him to be a man of integrity who was a dedicated and committed member of An Garda Síochána.
The Taoiseach had apologised to him on the floor of the Dáil. The minister had met Sgt McCabe and his wife, and publicly stated that she "deeply regretted" what they had been put through at the hands of the State.
If some new information had now been uncovered that showed that he didn’t deserve their support, it would have had serious implications for Government policy.
Surely the Taoiseach and Cabinet colleagues would need to know if the man they had - belatedly - been publicly backing to the hilt turned out to be motivated by a grudge?
There were now seven people in the Department of Justice besides the minister who should have had serious concerns about what was transpiring at the O’Higgins Commission, seven very senior people who now understood that a serious criminal complaint was being introduced in a private inquiry to challenge Sgt McCabe’s motives for making allegations.
Despite this the Department of Justice says that while the Tánaiste is recorded as having "noted" the contents of the email "there was no oral discussion or briefing with her about it".
Given how politically toxic the issue of how Sgt McCabe had been treated by the State had already proven to be, the apparent radio silence about this revelation beggars belief.
No further legal opinion was sought.
No other options of actions open to the minister were explored.
The minister met then commissioner Noirín O’Sullivan the day after she received it and did not mention it to her.
Instead the email was simply filed away and forgotten about while the garda commissioner was allowed a free hand in a legal attack on Sgt McCabe that almost destroyed him.
When the details of the commissioner’s legal strategy were leaked 12 months later, the Tánaiste gave no indication that she had been in any way aware of the garda commissioner’s approach.
If she had by then simply forgotten, there were seven senior officials in her department who could have reminded her.
At the time the minister expressed concern that the transcripts had been leaked and refused to be drawn on the appalling vista they revealed.
While others demanded to know the full story, the minister to whom the garda commissioner is accountable strongly defended her right to claim privilege over the instructions she had given to her legal team.
She continued to express full confidence in the commissioner.
The failure to include this key email in the documents sent to the Disclosures Tribunal is a serious matter.
The shifting sands under the reported timeline for the discovery of this email raises yet more questions.
It is now beyond doubt that at least nine people should have known the information the Taoiseach put on the record of the Dáil for two days running was not correct.
We are told that a tenth person, current Minister for Justice Charlie Flanagan, didn’t bother to ask about the contents of the email when its existence was reported to him by a secretary general who was simultaneously announcing his departure from his post.
There is no doubt that this was a cock-up of catastrophic proportions.
The Disclosures Tribunal will now have to consider whether there was also a conspiracy, and if so, who was part of it.
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What's the story with the papers Leo gave Mehaul? Is it a case of a deal being done and a few blank A4 pages giving FF an exit strategy... in the light of certain documentary evidence it seems prudent to allow the tribunal proceed to blah blah blah before blah blah blah?
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get in there Ken ...Date Of Next Election Hide
Singles only. Applies to the year in which the next Irish general election takes place.
2017 10/11
2018 4/5
2019 20/1
2020 50/1
2021 or later
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The constitution and Joe Costello..........where would you get this???? Netflix me bollocks.
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told you i could smell cordite they just shot FRAN.
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Dead woman walking the minute Leo backed her. Mr Kelly would want to take a step back now...Charlie from Portlaoise is after him...dangerous animal...a Portlaoise solicitor.
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Leo just lost all creditability Mick martin will shit in his mouth at every leaders questions ,Alan Kelly will gun for Flanagan election before Paddys day FF big winners ,If Leo is wise he will call an election he is on a loser now just like me .
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Leo just lost all creditability Mick martin will shit in his mouth at every leaders questions ,Alan Kelly will gun for Flanagan election before Paddys day FF big winners ,If Leo is wise he will call an election he is on a loser now just like me .
Can't see Eminem stirring it now as he's on his 3rd election as leader if it is called. He won't get a fourth if the polls are owt to go by.
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Ya gotta get outta that bet John M, even @ 4/9, have 9 Ton to win 4 (with a Nifty '2019+' Saver @ 12/1) and have something to show fer it.
Ya won't get it all on in one PP shop, so spread it around, have 180 to win 80 in 5 different PP offices, that should keep you 'Under the Rader' !
28 Nov 2017 12:12
"Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has written to Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin confirming that Tánaiste Frances Fitzgerald has offered her resignation and he has accepted it."
FFS John M, I gave you advice and opportunity to hedge outta that bet,
I'm really pissed off that you ignored my advice.
And I'm also pissed off with PP fer refusing miz 6 to win 4 on a 2018 election,
it's 1/25 now !
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/irish-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2106837 (http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/irish-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2106837)
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Ken there was no hedge Powers wouldnt lay two tenners . The price hit 4/5 last night and I tried with 6 accounts to get on but was informed my account had reached the maximum stake even though I had no bets on it .BTW you need to tell me how you want to be paid your 202 I dont like posting Cash or Check .
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You got a good run for your score, erm. Unlucky.
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Ken there was no hedge Powers wouldnt lay two tenners . The price hit 4/5 last night and I tried with 6 accounts to get on but was informed my account had reached the maximum stake even though I had no bets on it .BTW you need to tell me how you want to be paid your 202 I dont like posting Cash or Check .
Whatever suits you, Postal order is prob easiest, I'll PM you my Addy.
I really hate taking your hard-earned off you on a 'Rob-job' but you
can't decline and neither can I decline your payment.
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Ken there was no hedge Powers wouldnt lay two tenners . The price hit 4/5 last night and I tried with 6 accounts to get on but was informed my account had reached the maximum stake even though I had no bets on it .BTW you need to tell me how you want to be paid your 202 I dont like posting Cash or Check .
Whatever suits you, Postal order is prob easiest, I'll PM you my Addy.
I really hate taking your hard-earned off you on a 'Rob-job' but you
can't decline and neither can I decline your payment.
You took the bet I lost your 202 is on its way .The inside info I had was Noonan was pushing the County Council for a Pilot scheme .Ross had other ideas I recon he knew if he said yes then FG would then say "Sure Shane there is no need for the new drink driving limits now that lads can get the lift home " Ross had that request on his desk a long time and did nothing with it until his junior minister said they needed to do something to help the publicans if FG had of agreed in the beginning to back the new drink drive limits in return for rideshare Ross might of agreed with Noonan .
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Gambling is a mugs game.......especially when it involves politics. Chinaman only gambles on animals.
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I only lost a few quid to Paddy and Ken, Leo lost his bollox .The Brexit meeting that he was so worried about will sign his deathwarrent .Apart from promoting Gay rights and advertising coloured stockings when it came to politics he was found out .If he capitulates on the Border issue he and his party are gone FF majority government early next year .If he was a politician proper he would of went for a general election NOW then played the No SURRENDER card on the border issue right in the middle of it and then been seen as the Queen who stood up to the Queen .What we learned yesterday is Ireland are going to Roll Over on the border issue and let Phase 2 of the Brexit talks continue without the promised deal on the border . Martin was aware that we were going to roll over and he didnt want an election as he would also of had to play hard ball and the Germand dont want that now when Leo chickens out of using the veto Martin can call him a gutless bitch accuse him of typical blueshirt appeasement once again and the field is set for the 2022 version of 1922 ,with hands shaking the Barley all over the island .When it comes to cute whore politics FF are still the masters they played Leo he is damned if he does and damned if he dosent As I suggested many times GET YOURSELF A GUN .
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Johnny boy, if the Stickies in RTE keep spouting this anti-Brit shite, we could end up being unloved not only by Comrade Angela, but also by Oberstabsgefreiter Teresa.
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Johnny boy, if the Stickies in RTE keep spouting this anti-Brit shite, we could end up being unloved not only by Comrade Angela, but also by Oberstabsgefreiter Teresa.
Nobody in the EU is going to help Leo out the Irish are looked on as parasites in Europe we are robbing tax revenue from everybody but what the EU cant tolerate is not cheating robbing sculduggery what offends them is we got caught and put the spotlight on them .Now that Taoiseach Noonan and his tampon Kenny have run for the exit .Leo is fair game at least Martin knows the rules of the game you never see him showing off what colour stockings he is wearing I dont think Martin would even admit to having feet .
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You took the bet I lost your 202 is on its way.
@ John M, If I may offer a consolation prize, come the New year or Mid Jan when things
cool off in the Taxi biz, get yourself on the Air coach to Cork fer a day and meet up with
myself and Korky (Corkonion) fer a few tipples and a birra grub 'Free Gratis'.
The usual agenda is a Wednesday 3pm or 4pm start, pub crawl around the cities Smoking
pubs ending up in a late nite chinese sit-down restaurant and then we can pour you back
on the Air coach to Dooblin fer 11pm or Midnight, but there are Conditions.
Firstly You are Not allowed to put your hand in your pocket fer any Drink or Food on the day
and Secondly No talk of Politics is allowed.
P.S. Bring Rats with ya fer the Craic !
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I might add that the T-bone steak in Tung-Sing on 'Pana' is only to die for !
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You took the bet I lost your 202 is on its way.
@ John M, If I may offer a consolation prize, come the New year or Mid Jan when things
cool off in the Taxi biz, get yourself on the Air coach to Cork fer a day and meet up with
myself and Korky (Corkonion) fer a few tipples and a birra grub 'Free Gratis'.
The usual agenda is a Wednesday 3pm or 4pm start, pub crawl around the cities Smoking
pubs ending up in a late nite chinese sit-down restaurant and then we can pour you back
on the Air coach to Dooblin fer 11pm or Midnight, but there are Conditions.
Firstly You are Not allowed to put your hand in your pocket fer any Drink or Food on the day
and Secondly No talk of Politics is allowed.
P.S. Bring Rats with ya fer the Craic !
Im on the bus thanks for the invite im sure the Rodent will travel ...looking forward to it .
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Sounds like a plan... haven't been in the real capital in years.
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Best to stay overnight in my opinion...no joke that journey with a barrel of beer and a Chinese in the gut. Plenty of good BnB's and hotels in Cork city.
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Probably right... Drive down & Travelodge?
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Im on the bus thanks for the invite im sure the Rodent will travel ...looking forward to it .
Sounds like a plan... haven't been in the real capital in years.
Excellent !
I was talking to Korky yesterday and he is Game ball too.
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11 o clock train arrive early afternoon wander about meet Ken and the possee go for dinner gargle tell each other lies find a late bar then Mc Donalds first train back to the smoke .Hotel Lip what do you think we are Middleaged or something .
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Any man who gets a card from PP can afford a hotel.
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11 o clock train arrive early afternoon wander about meet Ken and the possee go for dinner gargle tell each other lies find a late bar then Mc Donalds first train back to the smoke .
If ye are staying overnight then the Rochestown park hotel; @ 94Euro.
https://www.booking.com/hotel/ie/rochestownpark.en-gb.html?aid=375006;label=city-douglas-gb-_P_YsiEJaqi_tpIiYBAt8QS100529757531%253Apl%253Ata%253Ap1%253Ap2%253Aac%253Aap1t4%253Aneg%253Afi%253Atikwd-26126252387%253Alp1007835%253Ali%253Adec%253Adm;sid=7384ed8b6833983ffff39e676ea03e46;aer=1;all_sr_blocks=12629302_88545363_0_42_0;bshb=2;checkin=2018-01-17;checkout=2018-01-18;dest_id=-1502438;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;hapos=6;highlighted_blocks=12629302_88545363_0_42_0;hpos=6;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;spdest=ci%2F-1502438;spdist=0.9;srepoch=1512322850;srfid=8d03c132db056e482e85e560763e062f265b2cb1X6;srpvid=dea77c50abf10562;type=total;ucfs=1&#hotelTmpl (https://www.booking.com/hotel/ie/rochestownpark.en-gb.html?aid=375006;label=city-douglas-gb-_P_YsiEJaqi_tpIiYBAt8QS100529757531%253Apl%253Ata%253Ap1%253Ap2%253Aac%253Aap1t4%253Aneg%253Afi%253Atikwd-26126252387%253Alp1007835%253Ali%253Adec%253Adm;sid=7384ed8b6833983ffff39e676ea03e46;aer=1;all_sr_blocks=12629302_88545363_0_42_0;bshb=2;checkin=2018-01-17;checkout=2018-01-18;dest_id=-1502438;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;hapos=6;highlighted_blocks=12629302_88545363_0_42_0;hpos=6;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;spdest=ci%2F-1502438;spdist=0.9;srepoch=1512322850;srfid=8d03c132db056e482e85e560763e062f265b2cb1X6;srpvid=dea77c50abf10562;type=total;ucfs=1&#hotelTmpl)
Or Briarville B&B in South Douglas; @ 40Euro.
http://www.briarvillebandb.com/ (http://www.briarvillebandb.com/)
http://www.briarvillebandb.com/bed_breakfast_rates.html (http://www.briarvillebandb.com/bed_breakfast_rates.html)
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Both of the above are inbetween Korkys home and mine so we could all share a taxi in and out,
(and both have free parking).
But whatever way ye want to work it yereselves, is fine with us. The details are a minor issue.
And John M, there won't be any McDonalds on any menu, remember that I am covering ALL your
food and drink costs in Cork on the day, Rats and Korky can buy their own BUT I'M COVERING YOURS.
I met Korky in person over the weekend and he is all on fer it, so may I throw out Wed 17th Jan,
if that suits everyone ?
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Ill turn up anytime if Rodent is allowed out then we are good to go .
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Anytime suits me, erm. That Briarville B&B looks OK, cheaper than the train!
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Sorted .I wonder if Anto or the Lip are going to join us .
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Korky just confirmed the 17th Jan is OK with him,
so we are 'All Good to Go' !
Let us know yere travel plans and we will do our upmost
best to accommodate ye.
@ John M, It is a prerequisite of the invite that you do not put
your hand in your pocket fer any Food or Drink on the day.
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Sorted .I wonder if Anto or the Lip are going to join us .
You did mention another beano in the capital? Count me in for that if yerself and Rats and Frankie etc are up for it..after Stephens' Day is okay for me. Can't travel to Cork for medical reasons Johnny..which I told you on the blower. However, due to your advanced age I cannot see you being able for 2 liver-busting sessions. And, rumour has it, Rats is a pipe and slippers man.
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I'm not much of a drinker these days. One or two nights a week down the local does me. Six pints of slimming beer is a walk on the wild side!
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Right, we're booked into the Briarville on the 17th... should be down around 2ish. Maybe kick off with a steak lunch?
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4 oulfellas sitting around telling lies and swamping pints .Sounds like an episode of last of the summer wine .
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What do yis tell the Wives/husbands....listen I'm heading down to Cork to meet these lads who claim to drive taxis I met on the internet?...Sounds dodgy.
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Why would I start talking to her after all these years .
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You're not too far off the stage where she couldn't give a flying fukk who you're meeting, where or when, MfH. You're out of her hair for the night...
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Hopefully things don't get that bad but who knows,..
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Right, we're booked into the Briarville on the 17th... should be down around 2ish. Maybe kick off with a steak lunch?
Happy Days !
Myself and Korky will collect ye in a Taxi at whatever time suits and head fer the city.
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4 oulfellas sitting around telling lies and swamping pints .Sounds like an episode of last of the summer wine .
Sounds like an ideal day out to me !
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Visions of 2 naïve auld Dubs being piggy-backed in the middle of nowhere with "Duelling Banjos" ringing in their ears...getting out alive and reassuring each other that "nobody gets to hear about this".
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Getting out alive sounds good. The way the erm sinks porter going round for round is akin to suicide!
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Only joking. Cork is a good spot for a session...lively but not as frenetic as Dublin and a bit cheaper. Wish I could head down but I'd be a legal risk with me back issues.
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Getting out alive sounds good. The way the erm sinks porter going round for round is akin to suicide!
Now ya tell me that !
AFTER I'm after agreeing to cover his gargle bill !
lol
Ye will be coming in from the North and Douglas is on the Southside of Cork,
so ye should have little or no traffic problems if ye come in through the Tunnel.
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You took the bet I lost your 202 is on its way .
I got that, Thanks John M. I won't cash it till 2018, most Gamblers are a horrendously
superstitious lot where cash and bets are concerned.