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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: john m on January 15, 2019, 04:21:55 pm
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What do you think will happen ....May loses her deal vote and the UK leaves with no deal .WTO insist on border Provos and Loyalists kick off in North and protests in Britain lead to street riots throughout the UK .7/1 a hard border in Ireland in 2019 with paddy power
May loses her vote and they delay Brexit ,open warfare in Britain as those who voted to leave feel they are being ignored riots all over the place british troops ordered on to the streets to keep law and order and like Belfast in the 70s Rubber bulletts fired by british soldiers against British citizens . Protests shut the channel tunnell 16/1 with Paddy Power .
Leo played it wrong he should of never taken sides .If he backs down now on the Backstop ,dont be surprised if you hear the government saying there is a real threat to Leos life .Dont think people in Ireland realize the anger on both sides in Britain and they are both looking for somebody to blame .
My guess May loses her vote and they leave with no deal .Hard border between Ireland and Ulster shit kicks off in north and Britain .Expect a few people to be killed in street riots looting and raids in Britain lead to troops on the streets .Either way it can only be bad or badder for the Brits with us getting fucked by both the Brits and EU .
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It mightn't be as bad as you think.
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It mightn't be as bad as you think.
Here I am agreeing you Rat,
It will not be thing atall atall
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I think your second option is about right.there's no doubt she wil loose,the meanungful vote,but if that does result in a second referendum,and the result is reversed,there will be anarchy on the streets,and rightly so because they did not uphold the will of the people. The politicians have hijacked democracy,in favour of their own agenda instead of doing their actual jobs,
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Is there not a valid case for checking back with the electorate... in the interests of democracy?
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They didnt respect our democracy when they sent us back TWICE to vote again till we got it right
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To be fair, we got it right in the end.
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Deal defeated now watch the EU try to get the Gay Foreigner to fudge the backstop a bullet in the head for the fucker if he sells out the North like Collins did .Looks like a no deal exit or a civil war in Britain .
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Why are those options presented as mutually exclusive? It might be worse than you think.
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DM, you are forgetting that what the British Public voted in was a poll, not a referendum. The UK government don’t have to actually listen to them at all.
However if there isn’t a deal there will be both chaos and calm in the UK, as some wanted this and some didn’t.
Maybe there migh5 be a second public poll
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DM, you are forgetting that what the British Public voted in was a poll, not a referendum. The UK government don’t have to actually listen to them at all.
However if there isn’t a deal there will be both chaos and calm in the UK, as some wanted this and some didn’t.
Maybe there migh5 be a second public poll
If there is no Brexit there will be civil war in Britain .If a second referendum there will be civil war .There is only one option left .Britain exercise their democratic right and leave on WTO terms any other outcome Britain will burn .There is another option .Britain gifts Ulster back to the Irish next week and let the Irish Army ,police and government deal with unification .No Ulster No Problem.
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Still doesn’t take away from the fact that it wasn’t a referendum, it was a poll, to gauge which way the public would like to go.
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Could you proffer an educated guess as to what day next week, erm... just I bought Mrs. Catcher a necklace up there for Christmas but it turned out to be one she already has so it needs changing and I'd rather go while they're still British so I can save a few notes buying stuff that's cheaper in Britain.
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Still doesn’t take away from the fact that it wasn’t a referendum, it was a poll, to gauge which way the public would like to go.
Your listening to too much BBC Vikki .The Government accepted the result and ignited article 50 they cant just say they were messing .Parliament has already voted to leave on 29th of March .The only way to stop it now is for another vote in Parliament to scrap article 50 and remain .That will lead to civil war GUNS and ARMED rebellion in Britain .This is an Omni fuckup .The Brits are not known for SURRENDERING
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I watch fuk all tele and I certainly don’t watch BBC,
what I’m trying to get across is that the public voted in a poll and not a referendum, there is a big difference.
If I created a poll on here, would that mean that the Irish government would have to listen??
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Could you proffer an educated guess as to what day next week, erm... just I bought Mrs. Catcher a necklace up there for Christmas but it turned out to be one she already has so it needs changing and I'd rather go while they're still British so I can save a few notes buying stuff that's cheaper in Britain.
Tessy has until Monday to bring back a new deal .Wouldnt be surprised to see a few scurries in the next few weeks but if the Brits backdown before the 29th London will burn the dissilusioned will take to the streets looting and robbing anything that is not nailed down.NF and British National Party could easy go Para millitary with guns and bombs .This is the Biggest issue facing Britain since Oliver Cromwell .
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I bought the necklace on the 20th December and the T&Cs state that returns must be made within 30 days which gives me 'till Sunday. I was hoping to go up in my shitebox nua but that's not being licensed 'till after the deadline and I need to keep the insurance on the old one to facilitate working for a living. I will be transferring it back on Sunday but we're going out for the younger not so young lad's birthday on that date. Given that I'll most likely be working late on Saturday night and I have to remove the meter, printer and roof sign from Mrs. Catcher's shitebox nua there's no way we'll have time for a trip up to Britain or the northern end of the ROI, as the case may be. I'll probably have to shoot up on Thursday morning and get a credit note with a view to returning with Mrs. Catcher at a later date so she can pick something she doesn't already have and I can play with my shitebox nua. How much of a risk do you reckon I'd be taking in accepting a Sterling credit note... the T&Cs are strictly no refund - exchange or c/n only.
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Even if there is a second referendum,what makes people so sure that the result be overturned ?
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I don't think they are so sure. It'd have to be marketed right... present a pretty dismal exit scenario as one alternative and forgetting all about it as the other, I guess.
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Even if there is a second referendum,what makes people so sure that the result be overturned ?
Second referendum will be a red rag to a bull.
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Yes I know that John,but what makes the people who want it like tony blair so sure the result would be overturned ,?
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You're glossing over the big issue here, erm... what about the necklace?
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Yes I know that John,but what makes the people who want it like tony blair so sure the result would be overturned ,?
Alastair Campbell or his ilk?
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I haven't a clue Wat yous are talking about :))
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300 notes worth of necklace, Octy.
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Non refundable.
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Ok Rodent the £ has gone up in value so a credit note would look ok especially if you decide to purchase a different bauble in future .You might also consider retaining the jewelery if it is Gold as Gold prices will surge if there is a no deal ..On the Brexit issue ,what are the chances of Martial Law in GB .
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Retaining it isn't an option as she has the same one, apparently I bought it for her and should have known... but hey ho!
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Retaining it isn't an option as she has the same one, apparently I bought it for her and should have known... but hey ho!
Have you ruled out getting a new lady friend who dosent have a necklace ?
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The following is a true story
Years ago I was in the bookies just getting a free coffee...... Wen this beautiful girl walked in..... Now I was in the bookies cause there was a few gangsters drug dealers in the pub.....and i reckon she was a moll....... Anyway She walks in and has this gold necklace on her and the golden pearls we'r the size of golf balls.....
She was stunning but probably a rite cnut..... Anyway wen I took me eyes off her arse and looked up at the cartoon next race....... There was a horse called necklace...... 10 seconds to go I ran up to the counter and put a tenner win on it to win ...... And it came in first at 50 to 1.....
A fortunate stroke of serendipity
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I have, erm. It's hard to imagine anyone else putting up with me... or me with them...
Glad to see you took my advice and went to work, Octy.
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I have, erm. It's hard to imagine anyone else putting up with me... or me with them...
Glad to see you took my advice and went to work, Octy.
I didn't ratti.... Painting wit me daughter.....
We'll she's painting beautiful and she never done it before......
I went out and put me roof sign on..... And bough toilet paper and chocolate and chickened out of work again.....
(https://i.postimg.cc/RJHBVvXt/DSC-0223.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJHBVvXt)
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Even if there is a second referendum,what makes people so sure that the result be overturned ?
Second referendum will be a red rag to a bull.
Red rag to a John Bull?
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I have, erm. It's hard to imagine anyone else putting up with me... or me with them...
Glad to see you took my advice and went to work, Octy.
I didn't ratti.... Painting wit me daughter.....
We'll she's painting beautiful and she never done it before......
I went out and put me roof sign on..... And bough toilet paper and chocolate and chickened out of work again.....
(https://i.postimg.cc/RJHBVvXt/DSC-0223.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJHBVvXt)
I like thst one, the nicest so far, has a happy uplifting, innocence about it.
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There's a road down to rush or skerries that reminds me of this pic.
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There's a road down to rush or skerries that reminds me of this pic.
I think you're thinking of the Tellytubbies!!
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THE DISHONEST SCUM 7/1 a HARD BORDER with Paddy POwers ...Tánaiste Simon Coveney and Minister Shane Ross were talking privately at the end of press briefing without realising the microphone was still on:
Shane Ross: “Yeah. The border one, should I not have said that?” (This is a reference to a question Mr Ross was asked about whether a truck travelling from Scotland by boat to Larne could then proceed to the Republic without any checks. During the press briefing, he replied: “I would anticipate that there would be checks.”)
Simon Coveney: “Yes, but we can’t get into where they’ll be at this stage. They could be in the sea, they could be... But once you start talking about checks anywhere near the border, people will start delving into that and all of a sudden we’ll be the government that reintroduced a physical border on the island of Ireland.”
Shane Ross: “Yeah, but I didn’t know what to say.”
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ROSS TELLS THE TRUTH ...Tánaiste Simon Coveney has repeatedly said now is a time for Ireland to hold its nerve. He has asked us to trust our EU partners not to abandon us at this late stage in the Brexit process.
The minister and Taoiseach Leo Varadkar have also appealed to Opposition TDs and voters to trust the Government when it comes to the no-deal preparations.
Trust is not something we often associate with politicians, but these are extraordinary times. And, in reality, we have little choice but to hope that they are on top of the crises.
That is why Transport Minister Shane Ross's performance at a briefing on contingencies last night is so worrying.
Mr Ross appeared to let it slip that customs checks on goods travelling from the UK to Ireland are inevitable in the event of a hard Brexit.
My colleague, Philip Ryan, presented him with something most politicians know to avoid: a hypothetical question.
The minister was asked if a truck left Scotland and travelled by boat to Larne in Northern Ireland, could it then move south as is currently the case without any checks.
"I would anticipate that there would be checks," Mr Ross said before being cut off by the Tánaiste.
Later, the Transport Minister was asked by the 'Financial Times' whether a motorist travelling from Co Donegal to Co Derry would continue to be insured once they crossed into the North.
"Can I come back to you on that?" Mr Ross responded, before whispering to Mr Coveney "the answer to that is 'yes', isn't it?"
"Probably, depending on where they get their insurance," the Tánaiste told him before explaining that such a scenario will be dealt with in emergency legislation being worked on by the Government.
Given how carefully Mr Coveney and Taoiseach Leo Varadkar have worked to control the Brexit narrative, they are likely to feel sore about the performance by their Independent colleague.
Further explanation will now have to be provided as to what exactly the Government's thinking is on a Border, be that in the Irish Sea, at UK ports or on the island of Ireland.
Elsewhere during the press briefing, Mr Coveney hit out at those who "wish things away" but can't provide "any kind of convincing explanation for how you avoid Border infrastructure without regulatory alignment".
No doubt, he wishes Mr Ross's contribution away.
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All Freemasons swear loyalty to Satan............the Sigil of Baphomet. Doesn't matter whether you believe the cunt exists or not............they do believe.
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There's a road down to rush or skerries that reminds me of this pic.
Road to Skerries, I'd say... just before Argillan Castle... if it was the road to Rush it'd be cabbages rather than sunflowers.
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There's a road down to rush or skerries that reminds me of this pic.
Road to Skerries, I'd say... just before Argillan Castle... if it was the road to Rush it'd be cabbages rather than sunflowers.
Me yungone done it.... Bob copped it....
Was lambs in rush?
We used to get the train out to lambs and pick the strawberrys for the jam.....
The real old trains with the separate compartments and the strap you pulled to close the window up and down...... And the smell of diesel coming in the window and the sunshine blinking your eyes as it flickered tru the trees in and out.....
And then yu felt sick cause yu ate 5 kilos of strawberry.....
Ah great days
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Mate of mine who died recently used to describe the old trains they took to Mosney - probably still Billy Butlins back then. Reckoned he could identify with the Jews as he likened it to Auschwitz...
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Spent many a summer vacation... I mean holidays down in Rush...me ol man used to work in Traynors(motor factors) in the village in the 70's,brother used to pick tomatoes on one of the farms aswell....ah good times!!
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Was lambs in rush?
"We used to get the train out to lambs and pick the strawberrys for the jam.....
The real old trains with the separate compartments and the strap you pulled to close the window up and down...... And the smell of diesel coming in the window and the sunshine blinking your eyes as it flickered tru the trees in and out.....
And then yu felt sick cause yu ate 5 kilos of strawberry.....
Ah great days."
Van's only in the ha'penny place.
https://youtu.be/mn2CeHlKrTw
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Well the right honourable lady has prevailed as expected
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All Freemasons swear loyalty to Satan............the Sigil of Baphomet. Doesn't matter whether you believe the cunt exists or not............they do believe.
[/quote]had a Freemason in the car years ago. Told me no matter the profession the Mason's must believe in God. Only fools don't believe in God he says.. Was that the reason? Shower of cunts.. an him a fellow driver ..not even a tip or nutting.. ye think a Satanist would tip wouldn't ya
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here ye go weird al.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wauZpWDaqT4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wauZpWDaqT4)
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I often think about the people in the UK calling for a second referendum.the like s of Tony Blair,and others.lets say there was a second referendum,and the original result was overturned.do they seriously think the leave side are just going to accept that and walk away ? Not a fukking chance of it,there would be anarchy on the streets of Britian
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Google the treaty Germany and France are signing soon........Treaty of Aachen...........they think it's all over.........it is now
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Did they not sign that yesterday lippy ?
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Taoiseach now comming under pressure to abandon the backstop .If he does I sincearly hope he is shot dead as a traitor .He should now play big boys politics with the EU and tell them if they abandon Ireland and the backstop Ireland will leave and as members of the single currency the Euro would crash and that would be the end of both the Euro and the EU .He chose this path knowing the only way was to play hardball he could of tried to play both sides fairly but he didnt .There only ever was one real choice but our beggars were afraid to consider it .We joined the EU with Britain we should of left with them .If Veradkar backs down half of the seats in the upcoming european elections will go to anti EU candidates and FG will be wiped out at the general elections .2019 is begining to smell like 1919 with the blueshirts once again abandoning the North .Time to GET A GUN .This year is the 100 aniversary of the start of the Civil war it might also be the year that Civil War 11 starts as well .
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They did........my error. Was only told about it last night.....half asleep at the time.
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Taoiseach now comming under pressure to abandon the backstop .If he does I sincearly hope he is shot dead as a traitor .He should now play big boys politics with the EU and tell them if they abandon Ireland and the backstop Ireland will leave and as members of the single currency the Euro would crash and that would be the end of both the Euro and the EU .He chose this path knowing the only way was to play hardball he could of tried to play both sides fairly but he didnt .There only ever was one real choice but our beggars were afraid to consider it .We joined the EU with Britain we should of left with them .If Veradkar backs down half of the seats in the upcoming european elections will go to anti EU candidates and FG will be wiped out at the general elections .2019 is begining to smell like 1919 with the blueshirts once again abandoning the North .Time to GET A GUN .This year is the 100 aniversary of the start of the Civil war it might also be the year that Civil War 11 starts as well .
Only thing stopping a civil war, i'd say, is the effeminisation of men between 18-40. Anyone worth a wank left these shores yrs ago. Most men are too busy feeling guilty for having a cock to fight.
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All Freemasons swear loyalty to Satan............the Sigil of Baphomet. Doesn't matter whether you believe the cunt exists or not............they do believe.
had a Freemason in the car years ago. Told me no matter the profession the Mason's must believe in God. Only fools don't believe in God he says.. Was that the reason? Shower of cunts.. an him a fellow driver ..not even a tip or nutting.. ye think a Satanist would tip wouldn't ya
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Weirdo....you can't believe in Satan if you don't believe in God. The top honchos have several secret rituals the others are never shown. Eyes Wide Shut.......
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In 2012 I got a gig off Roys site to address Chief Account managers from most of the Multi Nationals at Microsofts HQ in Sandyford .Where I predicted Brexit and suggested if Britain Left we too should leave with them .Ireland as a nation are scum of the earth we have cheated fiddled robbed every other cunt in Europe of tax revenues and without Britain to have our backs Europe are going to shit in our mouth.
Ireland is an illusion most people think our national colour is Green when it is officially Saint Patricks Blue but in reality our national Colour is Grey ,Grey is either a light shade of Black or a dark shade of white and thats the way Irish governments operate with Both the EU and International investors whatever you want we can interpret it as blackish or witeish and see absolutely no difference if it suits you .
The Eu reminds me of a mental institution Ireland are locked up for being Robbing Cheating low life Cleptomaniacs .Germany still have delusions of grandure with a superiority complex the French have delusions of grandure with an inferiour complex .Italy are bone idle Maffiosi while the Greeks are just bone idol.Poland are running from the Russians Spain for a country of its size dosent really exist at all and the rest are just make weights .Britain were the Hospital Orderlies who decided enough is enough .
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You not think we paid for any of it, John? How about fishing waters worth 200 billion back in the late 90's? How about the 42% of collective European banking debt your kids have weighing on their shoulders? Our biggest ever mistake was turning our backs on the skills that made us Irish.....farming, fishing and rearing livestock and horses.
The Danish spent 2 yrs here studying our piggeries.........which were then shut down by Haughey and Goodman INC....... and they made trillions from their "own" Danepak bacon industry.
You see our traditional skill-sets as being a blast from the past but we were highly regarded for them..now everyone in the EU thinks we're spineless sycophants. It was the Irish who sold Ireland out..........and Leo was in Brussels learning the Marxist trade-craft at the time.
A French Sociologist remarked on our "post-colonial personality".....a national inferiority complex. Nowt wrong with shovelling shite if you can make a bob from it.
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Fish dont have passports so thats a red herring .Jap and Russian factory ships are harvesting fish before they ever reach international fishing grounds .Unlike most other post colonial Islands we were loved by the Brits and Yanks who needed the North for theor Radar stations to monitor Russian Ship movements now with Satalites they dont need us ,Watch the Game of thrones on Paddies Day Our Sodomite will gladly go and meet with Trump who if he had his way would shoot him for his discusting life choice but Veradkar has absolutely no respect for other persecuted gay or LGBTQ people in America who are victimised by Trumps regime .Is it any wonder nobody respects us when we chose that as our leader .Thankfully the Irish never elected him Taoiseach and never will .Cant see FG doing well in next election .After the euphoria of look at how progressive we are we have a Gay Taoiseach people are beginning to realize what a totally useless bastard he really is .The country is falling apart .Drug Wars ,Homelessness ,Soup Kitchens hospital waiting lists Trillion dollar hospitals ,Schools falling down ,Firetrap buildings .Veradkar needs to tread softly this country is only waiting for a spark to ignite the whole kip .I was at the tax march with my old man in the 70s when some drunk carrying a rolled up newspaper start chanting Lynch out lynch out and that was the spark that brought him down public opinion changed with that chant we got Charlie and then he start selling the country inch by inch .We never complained because we thought we were getting free money cheap council houses to buy medical cards free universities FFS we even got Ryanair what more could we want .This time round there are no goodies to hand out to the Plebs .Time to GET A GUN France ,Greece Germany have seen street violence cant see how we avoid it if the EU decides to backstab us on the bsckstop .The bomb in Derry last week was addressed to all to let them know .They are not gone away .
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Fish dont have passports so thats a red herring .Jap and Russian factory ships are harvesting fish before they ever reach international fishing grounds .Unlike most other post colonial Islands we were loved by the Brits and Yanks who needed the North for theor Radar stations to monitor Russian Ship movements now with Satalites they dont need us ,Watch the Game of thrones on Paddies Day Our Sodomite will gladly go and meet with Trump who if he had his way would shoot him for his discusting life choice but Veradkar has absolutely no respect for other persecuted gay or LGBTQ people in America who are victimised by Trumps regime .Is it any wonder nobody respects us when we chose that as our leader .Thankfully the Irish never elected him Taoiseach and never will .Cant see FG doing well in next election .After the euphoria of look at how progressive we are we have a Gay Taoiseach people are beginning to realize what a totally useless bastard he really is .The country is falling apart .Drug Wars ,Homelessness ,Soup Kitchens hospital waiting lists Trillion dollar hospitals ,Schools falling down ,Firetrap buildings .Veradkar needs to tread softly this country is only waiting for a spark to ignite the whole kip .I was at the tax march with my old man in the 70s when some drunk carrying a rolled up newspaper start chanting Lynch out lynch out and that was the spark that brought him down public opinion changed with that chant we got Charlie and then he start selling the country inch by inch .We never complained because we thought we were getting free money cheap council houses to buy medical cards free universities FFS we even got Ryanair what more could we want .This time round there are no goodies to hand out to the Plebs .Time to GET A GUN France ,Greece Germany have seen street violence cant see how we avoid it if the EU decides to backstab us on the bsckstop .The bomb in Derry last week was addressed to all to let them know .They are not gone away .
No Irish Sea then? A white elephant more like.........bomb in Derry was to coincide with the centenary some soap-box Paddies seem to be celebrating. We had nothing.......problem is now we have a few with something that the entitled cunts all want.....Yugoslavia........Sorry mate, I have to kill you before you kill me.
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Lip as long as paddy was getting his anastetic delivered every week from the dole and a rent allowance and a few days cash in hand everything was grand .Cheap drnk from Lidil and Aldi and poweder from the Kinihans had become the new anastetic .Emigration has cleared out the hinterlands .Iread of a housing shortage in Ireland there is no such thing plenty of houses its just nobody wants to live in a field miles away from an Off licence .I must go into my files and see if I can Find my address to Microsoft .It foretold a lot of what happened .I also remember the Night I was on Prime Time and told Alan Aherne that the ECB would print money he told me I was wrong that they were not allowed do that then they printed and bought up trillions of euro denominated debt .Thing is I am a taxi driver he was a Professor of Economics and advisor to the government ,only one of us was Correct the other one advised bertie and cowen .Bombs in Derry were a recruiting card for the New IRA unemployed kids who think they would have a better future in a United Ireland will flock to the Flag just for the excitement toescape their White Lightning Marlboro fueled dreary lives .Irish Politics is made up of the three losing sides in the Civil War there has to be a fight to decide on a winner the emergence of SF as a political power has broken the Status Quo either Ff or FG have to dissapear both of them will merge FF are trying to prepare for a united Ireland by merging with the SDLP dont be surprised to see Leo roll over on the Border thinkg with a view to snuggling up to the Unionists in a future united Ireland .
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The Yanks were worried the Russians had access to the Mediterranean back in the late 80's..........they stirred up national sentiment amongst Serbian and Bosnian Christians by moving Muslims everywhere within the Yugoslav provinces........ we' have been told we are to take in a million refugees by 2030.....pure coincidence............the next Provo leader will be a transgender mong with all the conviction of a cannabis-smoking android......least of our worries. Even the Proddies in the North have stopped burning Fenian and Papist effigies........EU flags and Palestinian emblems..............they have it copped.
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Here you go Lip My Address to Microsoft in 2012 ...
Good Morning and thank you for the opportunity to address you .Its not often that somebody who proudly boasts I LEFT SCHOOL WHEN I WAS TWELVE BEFORE THEY COULD EDUCATE THE INTELLIGENCE OUT OF ME . Gets a chance to address such an esteemed audience .I responded to this online request .
Dear all
Everytime I come to Dublin I have a very entertaining trip from the Airport as the driver has a view on everything. I run conferences and in September it will be at Microsoft. I need a key note speaker (15Min's max) who can talk about the Ireland and the Irish economy.
You know of anybody?
Please let me know
Regards
Laurie Beagle
So here I am and I hope that what I say will entertain and give you some food for thought .
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Once again Ireland are among the first to agree to something without knowing all the facts .We agreed to the bank guarantee then a bailout and now the ESM .
We have no idea what the terms and conditions of access to the ESM will be....... what the coupon on monies will be.... or what political niceties will have to be met .Our agreeing to sign up to the fiscal treaty and the ESM without all the facts is a bit like getting married and then deciding if you like your partner
There is nowhere in the Fiscal Treaty where it states that Irelands deal will be changed .We got our cash and signed up to a deal .The best we can hope for is that access to future funding will be provided by the ESM .
We will have to contribute to the fund .So we will need to borrow money to put into a fund so we can borrow money from the fund.
Ireland ,Greece ,Portugal have all got their deals and there is no going back .A few tweaks and twitches will be applied but the basic deal will remain the same .
Irelands politicians have proven that the parish pump has always decide fiscal or political direction and now that the troika have neutered, muzzled and gotten a choke chain on us they will not let us off the lead to run free and spoil everything for the rest of Europe If anything the government will try to curry favor and apply a toxic budget to give the impression that they are more European that the other litter runts and all they will get in return is a rub of their tummy.
Irelands debts. are too unstable for the ECB to allow us to refinance them through the ESM .We have yet to deal with our mortgage black hole and the special purpose vehicles that hide billions of banking debt NAMA being the bastard lovechild of wayward lenders .
The other big cloud on Irelands horizon is banking union which might result in a bank transaction tax and possibly a unified corporate tax rate .
Why would other Eurozone nations agree to finance their opposition on unfavourable terms for themselves?.
Irelands reduced corporate tax rate is protected by treaty but IF cheap funding via the ESM is only available to those who meet the conditions of the ESM and one of the conditions is tax harmonisation .Then there is a political decision to be made .
The Dept. of finance may have some big decisions to make .They will need to get out the old abacus and do the sums and try to calculate how many jobs and how much wealth will disappear if the imposition of a bank transaction tax and corporate tax harmonization are the price of access to future funding at reduced rates from the ESM ,while in the Taoiseachs office they will need to measure up the political consequences of such surrender of sovereignty.
There is also the possibility that the UK will decide its time for them to get out of the EU .This then presents a problem and an opportunity for Ireland. Do we go as well ?
Undoubtedly the UK would be granted access to the European free trade zone .If we went with them we too would have access for geopolitical reasons .This would allow Foreign Direct investment into Ireland continue as we would still have free access to the European markets for our produce.
The ECB are aware that the UK are not as enamoured with Europe as some nations are, and they are also aware of the historic bonds between Ireland and the UK.
If possible they will not allow Ireland to re designate the promissory notes or other monies loaned to Irelands banking system from the sovereign debt .
Why have the Troika been so hard on Ireland and why did they insist on Ireland paying off all bond holders ?
..Let me return to the biggest Sovereign debt problem that Ireland has .Bank debt and especially the Anglo Irish Promissory note .The Minister for Finance decided in closed session to guarantee all deposits and bond holders in Irish banks .This has been described as madness but lets just for laughs believe for a few minutes that everybody in that room when the decision was made was reasonably intelligent .Then we need to ask what could of been the logic behind such a guarantee ?. I would suggest that .The minister had been convinced that the problem was one of liquidity and not toxic debt .By implementing a bank guarantee backed by the Sovereign it might of been expected that funds from other European banks would flood into the Central bank of Ireland .
Remember at this time Ireland was the poster boy of European Economic Greatness with a very low debt to GDP ratio and this money could have been made available to Irish banks at a low coupon .This would of had the effect of allowing the banks to refinance bonds and try to trade out of their difficulties while masking the toxic dept problem from Eurozone overseers .
Irish banks have benefited regularly from government largess.The SSIA savings scheme was introduced by Charlie Mc Creevie some years earlier to take money out of an overheating economy . Any other minister would of increased taxes to achieve this.It resulted in Irish banks being cash rich and this money on deposit was used to leverage up their capital and this cash bonanza is what fuelled the Celtic Tiger .
It is possible to draw the conclusion that the severity of the troikas policies in Ireland are a way of punishing Ireland for trying to pull a political stroke in offering the bank guarantee to create cash flow into Irish banks and as far as they were concerned mask the problems at the expense of other Euro Member Countries.
Ireland fired a warning shot across the bows of Europe and it went un noticed. They signalled their closeness to the UK ...During the recent Presidential election campaign .The leading parties candidate Gay Mitchell suggested that Ireland should consider re-joining the Commonwealth and the historic visit of Queen Elizabeth to Ireland and the monumental handshake between Martin Mc Guinness and the Queen spoke volumes for Anglo Irish relations .
Mr Mitchell is an astute politician and such a remark should never have been allowed go unchallenged .Was he signalling that Ireland have options ?. Trying to ride two horses at once .We have seen that there are two rules in Europe one for the big boys and one for the rest .Europe was good for Ireland in the past but now we need to look to the future .An honest debate has to take place and we need to decide if the reality of European Union membership matches up to the peoples aspirations of Europe .
Ireland is at a crossroads in its political evolution .It is coming of age and now has to choose if it will embrace European Federalism and all that, that might involve? Or take a different road .
We must have politicians that will stand strong and defend our natural resources especially our most precious natural resource our right to set our own tax rates. This includes corporate rates .Foreign Direct Investment is the lifeblood of the Irish economy. It is the oxygen we breathe and without it we will perish .The road that Ireland chooses to travel must always recognise this truth.
The single currency dangles by a tread .I sometimes wonder if it is a currency or just a rumour.Frau Merkel makes a remark and the value of the Euro soars or falls even though the fundamentals have not changed .The Mario brothers who use to be characters in a computer game have been replaced by the Mario brothers ,Monti and Dragi who are characters in a game of brinkman ship.What trust can people have in a single currency that can collapse by a few wrong words by a few well placed people .What would happen if the Mario Brothers and Frau Merkel went to dinner and when the bill came one of them reached into their pocket to get cash to tip the waiter and found a crumpled up 10€ note in their trousers pocket and was heard to make the comment .”This bloody Euro is useless” He was referring to its structure being made of paper as opposed to the Aussie dollar being plastic .The world financial system would race into turmoil .
If or when the UK decide to exit the European Union then Ireland may become pivotal .The exit of the UK would not be seismic .In fact many other European Union countries might welcome the exit of the naughty child as the UK have never really embraced the project whole heartily .The UKs ultimate decision will be based on IF the banking transaction tax is imposed upon them or just on Euro zone members .They would possibly prefer to remain within the union but there is a wild card scenario .If the UK could convince Europe that if they exit they might take Ireland with them .This would be catastrophic for the Euro Single currency if one of its members were to leave voluntarily . The UK might offer to finance Ireland until it can return to the bond markets .This might be enough to prevent the introduction throughout Europe of the banking transaction tax which would destroy the British financial system and at the same time empower Ireland to insist on maintaining their low corporate tax rate.
If Britain leaves and we go with them then we as a Sovereign Nation could default on some of our non Sovereign banking debt and put our self in a position where we could afford to finance our self as billions of Euro of interest repayments per annum would disappear.
I believe that we are fast approaching decision time for the Euro and the equation is simple .The majority of monies loaned to European banks emanated from Germany .The German government have bullied Sovereigns to transfer bank debt onto the sovereign to try to guarantee repayment .The Spanish baulked at this proposal and put pressure on Germany to change its policy .If the ECB become the lender of last resource for distressed Sovereigns then the Germans will have to fund the ECB .This is not what they want to do .How much will it cost to save the single currency against how much will the German pensioner, business, and state stand to lose if it falls apart ?.The future of the Single currency will depend on these calculations. The Germans are a pragmatic people who claim to have invented gunpowder but at the same time gave us printing and I believe in their final analysis they will opt to save the currency.
If the Germans do decide to fund the ECB then we must accept the terms and conditions of the fiscal Treaty 80% debt to GDP and the 3% Structural Deficit .This then presents a new set of problems it guarantees austerity for Europe for decades unless there is massive growth. Greece will be sacrificed as soon as this system is up and running as a warning to others .Great care on the timing of a Greek expulsion will be taken as Europe knows that a small puff of wind that can extinguish a match can also fan a flame .
Already we have seen cuts in welfare payments and cuts in government spending and Pensions being paid later in life.This will mean that people will work longer and opportunities for younger workers to enter the workforce will be delayed. This could have some serious social repercussions . To prevent unrest among the young we must consider a universal youth guarantee .We must guarantee all youth a job opportunity or job training .This should be a two way requirement before you qualify for unemployment payments .Consideration of transferring the amount that would be paid as welfare benifits to the person who provides on the job training as part of a wage should also be considered .
Printing of money and bond purchasing by the ECB will be necessary for years and ultimately a rapid increase in inflation will result .As I see it the Emperor has no clothes .Germany will have to agree to the ECB buying up bonds and printing money as most of the monies loaned to European banks is German savings and much of it is insured against default by German insurers either way they pay .
We must also keep watch on other regions where events could lead to fiscal turmoil .The Middle East is a powder keg and one wrong move could ignite the whole region .China are beginning to peruse claims on other Sovereign territories .
In conclusion .
It is essential to Irelands future that we put the protection of Foreign Direct Investment at the heart of our political agenda .I believe that our low tax rate is safe .Property deflation has made this an ideal time for overseas investors to secure premises at affordable rates and the massive reduction in domestic prices has alleviated wage demands making Ireland one of the most desirable locations in the European Union for Foreign Direct Investors .
A reorganising of social contracts in Europe is being undertaken. Unemployment benefit ,Pensions and access to medical services are under review.
An issue which I have heard opined on many occasions is that of workers associated with some overseas companies who are accompanied by their spouses who are not allowed to take up employment in Ireland .I believe that Ireland should change its visa policy to allow those who come here on short term work visas who are accompanied by a spouse receive a family work visa allowing both partners work .This would remove the strains placed on families especially families where both have desirable skills but can not work .This change in Employment policy should allow companies recruit the best and brightest to come to Ireland to work for them especially in research and development projects .This is the time to take up this issue with government .They need you .
So the next time you take a taxi .Remember that the driver has possibly listened to more radio that Mr average ,read more books and newspapers as he waits between jobs ,listened to more people’s opinions than the average politician and there may be a lot of wisdom in what he has to say .On the other hand ........”we’re here NOW”.
John Mc Grath
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All very well composed, and I'm sure delivered with your inimitable aplomb.........and here we are now.........where are we? We're teetering on the brink of an abyss...you mentioned property tax whilst the chimps were watching water charges.......well I've been told, not asked, told, by a fat Lithuanian bird to stop throwing bread down for the crows.......you see how they regard us, John? My reply is, and always will be, totally unpostable..........she will be getting therapy for at least a yr after it. A smattering of German always comes in handy when you're dealing with Eastern Europeans....that and mad, blue eyes with a shaved head.
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Lip The Irish Gimps havent noticed the shifting sands ,Since Brexit the German Economy recorded its first quarter or stagnant groth two quarters is officially a recession .Now the game has changed if Britain leave without a deal then German Imports to the UK will incur tarriffs and hit the German economy hardest but in turn it will impact the Euro .Trump will react to the weak euro with tarriffs on German Cars and then Germany will wobble .Go take a look at Deucha Banks share price over the last three years .Germany has loaned too much money to the ECB which in reality dosent actually exist outside an office in France ,Most of the Sovreign Bonds held by the ECB are worthless the ECB is NAMA for grown ups .The outcome of Brexit and the Backstop will be decided by Germany ,Leo was played in the hope that the UK would back down but May was to smart for them as I posted in anothertread 7/4 FF to be the biggest party after the next election if you could get on is worth a few grand of your pension savings .This is no longer about Britain or Irish borders its about German Industry and ultimately the Euro currency .
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Again ill say it ,listen to Luke recite for what died the sons of Roisen.one sentence alone from the poem says will German French ,or Dutch inscribe t h e epitaph of Emmet,when we've sold enough of Ireland to be but strangers in it.thats just one line alone
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Again ill say it ,listen to Luke recite for what died the sons of Roisen.one sentence alone from the poem says will German French ,or Dutch inscribe t h e epitaph of Emmet,when we've sold enough of Ireland to be but strangers in it.thats just one line alone
If your depending on a Dublin Drunk for your political education you are in trouble I would think Ireland has the lowest overseas ownership of Property in Europe .The Russians and Yanks and Chinease own most of London The Jews own New York Arab Money owns Paris .Apart from Insurance companies owning a few office blocks and appartment blocks there is little of value in Ireland .More Irish people own overseas properties than foreigners own Irish properties .
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John im very disappointed you choose to describe Luke Kelly in such terms.regardless of your feelings in relation to the sentiments expressed within the poem ,its a very derogatory way you have chosen to describe our most celebrated baladeer of all time
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he drank himself to death fuck him llike that mc gown clown the image they present of Ireland isan insult .
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Luke died on 30 th Jan of a BRAIN TUMOUR ,and not drink as you wrongly state.I had many a chat with Luke,and he was an absolute gentleman
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Again ill say it ,listen to Luke recite for what died the sons of Roisen.one sentence alone from the poem says will German French ,or Dutch inscribe t h e epitaph of Emmet,when we've sold enough of Ireland to be but strangers in it.thats just one line alone
A very poignant line, Dalyer. Like Behan, he was too intelligent for the arseholes he surrounded himself with. However, if you take his early death along with so many who died before their time........it does beg the question....are the idiots worth saving for the sake of your own sanity?
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About 3 years ago,I had Jimmy (Lukes brother) and auld Tom Craan in the car .we all went back to Jims place and had a great session singing Lukes songs all night.most of the songs Luke sang were written by ewan mccoll ,kirsty mccall father.Luke was also a great friend of Peggy Seeger
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Look around you Dalyer.........in 20 yrs we'll all be aliens in our own land............and the fuckers who did it will have been Irish to a man and woman.
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Thi k that process is well and truly started lippy,its born out of fear of the immigrant council of Ireland.our politicians are afraid to say a word about foreigners
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Listening to the Polish Prime Minister calling us Tax cheating scum of the earth .Its all right for me to Call the Irish Government low life tax dodging scum but its not nice when the Polish Prime Minister puts the boot in especially after we took in hundreds of thousands of Poles when they needed work .You would never find an Irish Taoiseach putting the boot in on the Brits who took in millions of Irish who needed work just to keep the Poles and other Europeans Happy over Brexit now would you ?
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Most of them cam here to learn English and there was a rumour we were all Catholic. Personally, I think they came here to learn the rules and to bring them home with them..............they'll find out in time what the plan was.
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If you want to know anything about wefare entitlements dont ask an Irish man,ask a foreigner
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If you want to know anything about wefare entitlements dont ask an Irish man,ask a foreigner
There is no limit to Paddys ignorance .
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Here is a thought .The Irish Government and the Brits issue National ID cards that allow free entry at the border after they fir a barrier like the old one at the toll bridge on the M50 .That guarentees free movement on the Island and on line customs clearance .Problem Solved .And big brother in control .
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An Taoiseach mentioned the need to manually inspect all goods/produce crossing the border to ensure it meets EU regulations. That's particularly relevant where livestock or foodstuff is concerned. Plenty of jobs for Dept of Agriculture inspectors, I guess. A while back Bertie suggested a blind eye approach where free movement is maintained with minimal physical checks carried out. The solution may lie in a combination of the two.
From the British perspective, Mr. Rees-Mogg hit the nail on the head a little while back. All they need to do is nothing, just tell the EU they're happy enough for goods/produce to move freely into Britain from ROI.
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An Taoiseach mentioned the need to manually inspect all goods/produce crossing the border to ensure it meets EU regulations. That's particularly relevant where livestock or foodstuff is concerned. Plenty of jobs for Dept of Agriculture inspectors, I guess. A while back Bertie suggested a blind eye approach where free movement is maintained with minimal physical checks carried out. The solution may lie in a combination of the two.
From the British perspective, Mr. Rees-Mogg hit the nail on the head a little while back. All they need to do is nothing, just tell the EU they're happy enough for goods/produce to move freely into Britain from ROI.
Brilliant stroke if theydid then its up to the Gay Foreigner and his buddies in the EU to come up with a solution for goods coming the other way .
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Sunday express reckons the EU will blink first over the backstop
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The EU talk a great game.we'll see how much they support Ireland and the backstop when the brits start making demands to remove it.I believe they will drop us like a hot potatoe
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Dollymount they cant drop the backstop end of and thats the problem that cannot be solved .Either the UK ignores the Belfast Agreement or the EU ignores The Good Friday Agreement .The EU are pressuring the UK so that the EU are not the ones that break the agreement .Its first to blink and the Brits wont blink .The EU hoped by pushing the Backstop they would force the Brits to stay in but the Brits might just leave and then its fuck you time for the EU .If Leobacks down the New IRA will shoot him stone dead as a TRAITOR .Britain has been pushed into a corner I cannot see them backing down its not what they do If it was the French they would squeel like pigs appologise and beg for forgiveness as I said watch the Germans they will decide the outcome .Probably decide to grant the UK access to the free market until there is a final deal .That keeps both sides in the status quo until there is a deal.
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I know you dont agree,but I still see the biggest threat to the EUs very existence coming from France in the event of time.you dont accept Le Penn has a chamce in hell of ever being elected you have said many times.but with the pressure Macron is under to resign at the moment,and Le Pen leading the polls currently,you have to admit there is a chance.if she does get elected ,she will ballot for a French withdrawal,and she wont be faced with the same problems with any backstop
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If at some stage in the future,the EU collapsed (and I hope it does ) what would be the case with all the money we owe them would we still have to pay it back ?
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If at some stage in the future,the EU collapsed (and I hope it does ) what would be the case with all the money we owe them would we still have to pay it back ?
There is no such thing as the ECB it is if you like an off balance sheet vehicle like NAMA most of the government bonds they hold are worthless >If the EU goes tits up then the German banks who bankrolled the ECB lose everything .Unlike America who can defend the Dollar with an army if you dont repay the ECB they will send you a strongly worded letter .On Le Pen at the moment she has 13% support in France she was so unelectable that the French opted for a totally unknown and his party last time ,Next election in france willsee the return of the old guard .As I tried to explain protest parties only get 1 shot at it .Like Gallagher in the Presidential 8 years ago or Casey he hasent a chance of winning a European seat .You have seen it in Ireland Workers Party ,Aintoch Eireann,Greens who once had 5 seats even Labour who once had 31 seats Even Dessie O Malleys crowd had enough seats to go into government they were wiped out .Its just the way politics is when people think the extremes can get power they vote against them.
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Actually there is no such thing as the Euro or the E.U or the left or the right or democracy or society or Eire or equality or or any of that nonsense ..
this is all just a way of dividing and subdividing everyone and conquering and setting people against each other upon any lines they can come up with .
Invisible Fascist rulers ....................... rant over oops
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Can politicians become AI?
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Its all about money always has been always will be .Had a Joe Walsh Saturday pick up Sandymount Gaff worth about two million ,Then Nuttley gaff worth nearer 3 million then Foxrock back of the Racecourse Gaff worth at least 5 million then on to Rathmichael another multi million gaff .Passengers happy enpough to talk to you as a taxi driver but I doubt they would want you in their golf club
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Its only worth that if youre willing to pay it .. a year or three theyll be worth fuckall again
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When the next recession comes the rich just stop spending their money while the average joe will have their gaffs repossessed....again.
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In my humble opinion the EU will bow to the brits and concede on the backstop.this will prove to all you people who love Barnier,Junker,and Tusk that Ireland is nothing more then a pawn in a very complicated chess game.they donf give a fukk about us.time to leave,or as John would say get a gun
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Dollymount .I was looking on the interweb last night saw Your crowd are 14/1 to win a European seat in upcomming Euro elections With the brits out and an extra seat in Leinster that might be worth a score .If Leo caves as I said I think he will get Assassinated as a TRAITOR .
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Dolymount I can only see one way out >May goes Nucler and sorts the whole lot for good .She calls a general election and says if she wins the election then her members vote for her deal if they dont agree then they should not stand as Conservatives .This avoids a second referendum a no deal withdrawl and a Civil War in Britain that could make the norths troubles look loke childs play Not since Cromwell have Britain been this Divided .If she loses then its Corbyns Problem ,TIME TO GET A GUN.
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Well considering how pro EU this country is,I would be surprised if we DID win a seat.however I dont gamble,so ill leave the betting to your good self John
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Well considering how pro EU this country is,I would be surprised if we DID win a seat.however I dont gamble,so ill leave the betting to your good self John
As I posted before Protest vots get one chance and if we see shortages or price increases after March then they might get a good protest vote 14/1 would seem value Two sitting MEPs are not standing again .
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1922 Committee runs the Tory party and they're backing May..........or she's backing their amendment.
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If I was a brexeteer MP, I would accept mays deal because it offers me everything I want.it stops free movement of people,it take back control of their laws,their money and their borders
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If I was a brexeteer MP, I would accept mays deal because it offers me everything I want.it stops free movement of people,it take back control of their laws,their money and their borders
Mays deal gives them nothing like that .They must Agree to remaining in a customs Union to protect the North so that means they must accept EU rules and regs pay a fee to the EU and if the Irish border is open then EU citizens can just walk over from Ireland to the UK .May is a remainer and is trying to get a brexit deal that keeps the UK in the EU in all but name .
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Well you might be right,but she says it offers all the things I pointed out in my last post.its so confusing
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Well you might be right,but she says it offers all the things I pointed out in my last post.its so confusing
Game of Chess with many gambits.
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I think they would accept a TIME LIMITED. period in the backstop,that migjt be a runner
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There's a deal done behind the scenes, Dalyer. I don't think Leo is being honest with the peasant public.
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Ya reckon a deal has been done already lippy ?
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John I know may is a remainer like you said,but I think she is only luke warm on remain just like Corbyn is luke warm on leave
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Guessing so. The bullshit being played out for the chimps is too convoluted.
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If the British Prime Minister's (Taoiseach's) deal had got through their parliament (Dail/Seanad) it would have been the stroke of the century.
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Told you before Dollymount watch the Germans Mister Merkel has been very quiet so far .May is a closet Remainer and Corbin is a Closet Brexiteer .Mays problem is she knows remaining is best for the UK economy but leaving mends a wound in her party .Corbyn has no intention of helping the Conservatives so is sitting quiet the fact that he is a Brexiteer doing nothing gets him the result he desires .German economy was stagnent last quarter another quarter of no growth and the German economy goes officially into recession .The Downside of German Recession is bollox falls out of the Euro making Dollar denominated inports like oil more expensive and countries who borrowed in Dollars will have to spend more Euro to repay their debts .Now trow Brexit in on top of that lot and we will have another recession in Europe only this time with ECB interest rates @.25%there is no room to fight it off bu lowering bank interest rates or printing more Euro and If Donny T decides to introduce tarriffs on European cars ie German and French the game is up for the Single Currency .If it suits the Germans they willshop us but that then sends out a message that there is no unity in the EU and undermines the Euro .In other words Dollymount this is actually a currency War since the last recession faith in the Euro has declined as the ECB just printed more money that really has no worth .Ask yourself the USA are guarentores of the Good Friday Agreement yet they have no input into this debate defending the agreement ,the Americans dont give a fuck which currency loses out the £ or the Euro either way the Strenght and realiability of the Dollar which is backed up by Military might wins .Leo was just a rear gunner in the Euro team against Reese Mogg who plays outside Right for the pound .
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The USA co guarantors of the good Friday agreement ?
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The USA co guarantors of the good Friday agreement ?
YES .Watch the stock market today a lot of US business report their last quarter earnings .If they are shite and the Market dropps 1000 points that weakness will tell the EU to put the boot in on Brexit ..
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After tonights votes in the house of commons ,the British govt now have a strong mandate to go back to Brussels,and seek changes to the backstop.we'll see now how loyal they will be to Ireland,I guarantee they will hang us out to dry.I hope the people of this country bare this in mind,and vote with their feet to elect a member of the Irexit freedom party
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Nothing changed with that vote its non binding just like the actual referendum .But the American economy dosent look like it is impacted by the China Crisis strong Dollar .Now which currency gets punished the Euro or the pound .EU stand strong Euro stays Strong Brits Crash out pound crashes Absolutely no reason for the EU to back down .Brits dont mind a Crash Out pound drops by about 10% the cheaper pound allows more exports even with WTO tarriffs British exports will be cheaper than they were before the Brexit vote .British Business will survive ,Irish trade with the UK will be desimated .The Gay Foreigner played his hand badly every government job he had he made a mess of how he ever got the Taoiseachs job says a lot about FG .The Irexit freedom party provided they dont run a raving racist must have a chance of a seat in the Dublin constituency no chance anywhere else .
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Dublin 4 seats so you need 20% to get elected Shinners take 1 .FG do ok in poshville take one FF ,Greens ,Inde Labour Irexit all in the mid ten % .Greens or Labour whoever gets the highest first prefrence should be in play for the last seat FF will throw funds at Dublin .Big advantage for Irexit is the local elections are on the same day so every protest voter who come out on single issues might go for the protest party .I would make Irexit Freedom party with the right candidate about an 11/4 shot .Betfair offering 14/1 .
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Reducing everything to a bet is a bit tedious, John.....any wonder you only have to work 13 hrs a fortnight.
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What the EU say in public,and what they say in private are two different things.if it becomes more beneficial for the EU ,to hang Ireland out to dry in favour of a new deal with the brits,they will do it in a heartbeat,and wont think twice about it.do tou seriously think the EU give a fukk about Ireland ? we are only a pawn in their ongoing game of chess and I suspect this will become apparent in the event of time
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Project Fear: increased prices for fruit and veg leading to heart-disease and cancer etc etc.....manipulating the con.
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I think they would accept a TIME LIMITED. period in the backstop,that migjt be a runner
No it won't, Coveney ruled that out on Day 1.
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What the EU say in public,and what they say in private are two different things.if it becomes more beneficial for the EU ,to hang Ireland out to dry in favour of a new deal with the brits,they will do it in a heartbeat,and wont think twice about it.do tou seriously think the EU give a fukk about Ireland ? we are only a pawn in their ongoing game of chess and I suspect this will become apparent in the event of time
Confused? Not the only one Dalyer............
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-backstop-and-its-possible-alternatives-901050.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-backstop-and-its-possible-alternatives-901050.html)
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The 'North' is a Tinderbox just waiting to explode, the Proddies hate the Catholics and the Catholics hate them back just as much.
It won't take much to set fire to that Tinderbox, even a few years back when they changed the times of the Union Jack being flown over Stormont, it was enough to bring the Proddies out on to the streets to Riot.
The Queen's visit a few years later brought the Republicans out on the street to Riot.
So they don't need a really big excuse to Riot !
If there is a Hard border, then the Republicans will Riot and Riot Nordie style.
If there is Not a Hard border, then the Proddies will Riot and Riot Nordie style.
Either way, there will be Riot's !
I'm just glad I'm way down South here and let 'em at it !
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And now the Septic Tanks/Bastarding Yanks have got their Oar in;
30 Jan 2019 08:08
A resolution has been introduced in the US Congress opposing the return of a hard border on the island of Ireland.
Irish-American Congressman Brendan Boyle is behind the move.
He said that now was the time for the US Congress to make it clear that it stands in strong opposition to a hard border.
After introducing the resolution in the House of Representatives, Congressman Boyle said: "One of the great foreign policy achievements of the 20th century was the Good Friday Agreement.
"It eliminated the hard border that then existed between Northern Ireland and the rest of Ireland. Now Brexit threatens this."
Congressman Boyle warned that a hard border would end the free flow of people between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, something which he said had proved fundamental to promoting peace and unity.
Earlier, he tweeted his response to the latest Brexit developments in the British parliament writing: "After agreeing to the Irish backstop, Theresa May’s government has now reneged on it. Why would anyone negotiate with her now?"
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Ken in the same way as you describe riots taking place whichever way the border goes hard,or none,there would be riots in the streets if brexit was overturned through a second referendum.the leave side would never accept it
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Ken in the same way as you describe riots taking place whichever way the border goes hard,or none,there would be riots in the streets if brexit was overturned through a second referendum.the leave side would never accept it
Yep ! And they will Riot and Riot Nordie style !
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And now the Septic Tanks/Bastarding Yanks have got their Oar in;
30 Jan 2019 08:08
A resolution has been introduced in the US Congress opposing the return of a hard border on the island of Ireland.
Irish-American Congressman Brendan Boyle is behind the move.
He said that now was the time for the US Congress to make it clear that it stands in strong opposition to a hard border.
After introducing the resolution in the House of Representatives, Congressman Boyle said: "One of the great foreign policy achievements of the 20th century was the Good Friday Agreement.
"It eliminated the hard border that then existed between Northern Ireland and the rest of Ireland. Now Brexit threatens this."
Congressman Boyle warned that a hard border would end the free flow of people between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, something which he said had proved fundamental to promoting peace and unity.
Earlier, he tweeted his response to the latest Brexit developments in the British parliament writing: "After agreeing to the Irish backstop, Theresa May’s government has now reneged on it. Why would anyone negotiate with her now?"
Brits leaving the EU is about currency .The Yanks make billions in foreign exchange especially in the petro dollar as every drop of oil is paid for in Dollard .That is why the Saudies can do what they like as long as they only accept payment in Dollars for their oil .Iran and Veneswela are talking about accepting Euro or Chinease money Libya were thinking of accepting other currencies .there use to be only two reserve currencies ie money that was accepted in any country .That was the Pound the Dollat then the Yen the Swiss Franc the Euro China or Russia never were accepted but they will be soon and the power of the mighty Dollar will wain .Since the Crash in 2008 people recognise all money is a fraud as central banks can just printmore .What we are watching is a Currency War between the Euro and the Pound for supremicy on world markets .The ECB and the Bank of England are both bankrupt they issued more currency than they have assetts for with fiscal easing the problem is now they need to get those bonds sold to international investers or the whole lot collapses .If the EU cast Ireland under the bus then the message is there is no unity in the EU so the Euro collapses just like if California was left out of the USA the Dollar would collapse .Anybody that thinks the Gay Foreigner or his Culchie sidekick are brave little boys standing up to the Brits need think again they re only puppets for the EU who would love to see the British Pound put in its place Think about the Pound what is it backed up by Britain no longer has an Empire makes nothing and is in trillions of pounds of Debt .As it says on the pound .I promise to pay the bearer one pound ,one pound of what printed paper .This is a currency war but nobody can mention it as saying so would collapse both currencies .You hardly think bitcoin and the blockchain and other crypto currencies were invented just for show .Think about a 25 year old kid got a job 7 years ago never recieved any hard currency in wages paid straight into their bank they buy stuff pay by card never handle cash they wont give a fuck what type of money is paid into their card account as long as they can spend it .So what we have here is World War 111 between the Euro(Germany )and the pound (England ) to settle old scores at the moment Germany are winning D Day is 29th March 2019 .Brits know the Euro is Fucked Italy ,Greece even Ireland can never repay what they owe and when interest rates increase Greece will be in the Shit again and Italy wont /cant pay then Spain defaults on payments .
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If/when we all decide to go electric what is going to happen to the Oil producing nations !
Sounds like good cause to have another Word War
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After tonights votes in the house of commons ,the British govt now have a strong mandate to go back to Brussels,and seek changes to the backstop.we'll see now how loyal they will be to Ireland,I guarantee they will hang us out to dry.I hope the people of this country bare this in mind,and vote with their feet to elect a member of the Irexit freedom party
Christy Brown would!
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They have to have a world war every so often soto quell the population
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What the EU say in public,and what they say in private are two different things.if it becomes more beneficial for the EU ,to hang Ireland out to dry in favour of a new deal with the brits,they will do it in a heartbeat,and wont think twice about it.do tou seriously think the EU give a fukk about Ireland ? we are only a pawn in their ongoing game of chess and I suspect this will become apparent in the event of time
Confused? Not the only one Dalyer............
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-backstop-and-its-possible-alternatives-901050.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-backstop-and-its-possible-alternatives-901050.html)
Last time bothering posting on a subject I thought Dalyer gave a fuck about.......
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I do care greatly lippy,but I dont understand what you mean ?
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May just been shown the Butt end of Europes Bollox and told to kiss it by the European Parliament .Hard border now looks odds on .
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Wont happen John,the EU will blink first,and in doing so,will hang Ireland out to dry.do you seriously think they will uphold Irelands claim for to keep the backstop if the brits crashing out would do detrimental damage to the EU economy ?
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DO I NEED TO SHOUT IT OUT IRELAND DOSENT FUCKING MATTER ITS ALL ABOUT CURRENCY If the EU blink the Euro is finished simple as Nobody gives a fuck if you have to pay a few pence import tax on an onion or if hundreds of Irish Catholics or Protestants get killed .Its all about CURRENCY STABILITY AND TRUST .Britain have just made a huge mistake they have refused to release Veneswelas Gold to its elected government .The issue that brexit is really about is Currency Trust .Britain is Insolvent so is the EU more money loaned out than all the currency that actually exists .Britain is a busted flush it is dead but not yet buried .Look at all the other busted flush empires .Turks,Greeks,Egyptians ,Mongels ,Spanish all third world economies swamped with debt .The poor dumb fuck voting in Newcastle thought he was voting for the return of coalmining and ship building or car building .Britain like us only makes shite and sandwiches .
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I do care greatly lippy,but I dont understand what you mean ?
Neither does anyone else !
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May just been shown the Butt end of Europes Bollox and told to kiss it by the European Parliament .Hard border now looks odds on .
Wont happen John,the EU will blink first,and in doing so,will hang Ireland out to dry.do you seriously think they will uphold Irelands claim for to keep the backstop if the brits crashing out would do detrimental damage to the EU economy ?
It would seem to me that ye are both saying the same thing.
The Hard border is looking increasingly likely whether it be a No-deal Brexit or the EU sell us down the Swanee, personally I think the Brits will crumble and go fer the 2nd referendum and Mrs May will be shown the Door, she thought she was the next Maggie Thatcher, but she wasn't even close.
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I do care greatly lippy,but I dont understand what you mean ?
Stirring it, Dalyer. This place is too quiet.
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DO I NEED TO SHOUT IT OUT IRELAND DOSENT FUCKING MATTER ITS ALL ABOUT CURRENCY If the EU blink the Euro is finished simple as Nobody gives a fuck if you have to pay a few pence import tax on an onion or if hundreds of Irish Catholics or Protestants get killed .Its all about CURRENCY STABILITY AND TRUST .Britain have just made a huge mistake they have refused to release Veneswelas Gold to its elected government .The issue that brexit is really about is Currency Trust .Britain is Insolvent so is the EU more money loaned out than all the currency that actually exists .Britain is a busted flush it is dead but not yet buried .Look at all the other busted flush empires .Turks,Greeks,Egyptians ,Mongels ,Spanish all third world economies swamped with debt .The poor dumb fuck voting in Newcastle thought he was voting for the return of coalmining and ship building or car building .Britain like us only makes shite and sandwiches .
That's s bit more lively. Well done, John.
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And now the Septic Tanks/Bastarding Yanks have got their Oar in;
30 Jan 2019 08:08
A resolution has been introduced in the US Congress opposing the return of a hard border on the island of Ireland.
Irish-American Congressman Brendan Boyle is behind the move.
He said that now was the time for the US Congress to make it clear that it stands in strong opposition to a hard border.
After introducing the resolution in the House of Representatives, Congressman Boyle said: "One of the great foreign policy achievements of the 20th century was the Good Friday Agreement.
"It eliminated the hard border that then existed between Northern Ireland and the rest of Ireland. Now Brexit threatens this."
Congressman Boyle warned that a hard border would end the free flow of people between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, something which he said had proved fundamental to promoting peace and unity.
Earlier, he tweeted his response to the latest Brexit developments in the British parliament writing: "After agreeing to the Irish backstop, Theresa May’s government has now reneged on it. Why would anyone negotiate with her now?"
Brits leaving the EU is about currency .The Yanks make billions in foreign exchange especially in the petro dollar as every drop of oil is paid for in Dollard .That is why the Saudies can do what they like as long as they only accept payment in Dollars for their oil .Iran and Veneswela are talking about accepting Euro or Chinease money Libya were thinking of accepting other currencies .there use to be only two reserve currencies ie money that was accepted in any country .That was the Pound the Dollat then the Yen the Swiss Franc the Euro China or Russia never were accepted but they will be soon and the power of the mighty Dollar will wain .Since the Crash in 2008 people recognise all money is a fraud as central banks can just printmore .What we are watching is a Currency War between the Euro and the Pound for supremicy on world markets .The ECB and the Bank of England are both bankrupt they issued more currency than they have assetts for with fiscal easing the problem is now they need to get those bonds sold to international investers or the whole lot collapses .If the EU cast Ireland under the bus then the message is there is no unity in the EU so the Euro collapses just like if California was left out of the USA the Dollar would collapse .Anybody that thinks the Gay Foreigner or his Culchie sidekick are brave little boys standing up to the Brits need think again they re only puppets for the EU who would love to see the British Pound put in its place Think about the Pound what is it backed up by Britain no longer has an Empire makes nothing and is in trillions of pounds of Debt .As it says on the pound .I promise to pay the bearer one pound ,one pound of what printed paper .This is a currency war but nobody can mention it as saying so would collapse both currencies .You hardly think bitcoin and the blockchain and other crypto currencies were invented just for show .Think about a 25 year old kid got a job 7 years ago never recieved any hard currency in wages paid straight into their bank they buy stuff pay by card never handle cash they wont give a fuck what type of money is paid into their card account as long as they can spend it .So what we have here is World War 111 between the Euro(Germany )and the pound (England ) to settle old scores at the moment Germany are winning D Day is 29th March 2019 .Brits know the Euro is Fucked Italy ,Greece even Ireland can never repay what they owe and when interest rates increase Greece will be in the Shit again and Italy wont /cant pay then Spain defaults on payments .
Studied your post hard since last night..........goes back to Kissinger holding the Iranians over a barrel in relation to controlling oil prices back in the 70's....Dollar is it.........resistance is futile...........
The actual quote which is attributed to Mayer Amschel Rothschild is: Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws! .