Brexit outcome

[Rat Catcher]

If the British Prime Minister's (Taoiseach's) deal had got through their parliament (Dail/Seanad) it would have been the stroke of the century.

[john m]

Told you before Dollymount watch the Germans Mister Merkel has been very quiet so far .May is a closet Remainer and Corbin is a Closet Brexiteer .Mays problem is she knows remaining is best for the UK economy but leaving mends a wound in her party .Corbyn has no intention of helping the Conservatives so is sitting quiet the fact that he is a Brexiteer doing nothing gets him the result he desires .German economy was stagnent last quarter another quarter of no growth and the German economy goes officially into recession .The Downside of German Recession is bollox falls out of the Euro making Dollar denominated inports like oil more expensive and countries who borrowed in Dollars will have to spend more Euro to repay their debts .Now trow Brexit in on top of that lot and we will have another recession in Europe only this time with ECB interest rates @.25%there is no room to fight it off bu lowering bank interest rates or printing more Euro and If Donny T decides to introduce tarriffs on European cars ie German and French the game is up for the Single Currency .If it suits the Germans they willshop us but that then sends out a message that there is no unity in the EU and undermines the Euro .In other words Dollymount this is actually a currency War since the last recession faith in the Euro has declined as the ECB just printed more money that really has no worth .Ask yourself the USA are guarentores of the Good Friday Agreement yet they have no input into this debate defending the agreement ,the Americans dont give a fuck which currency loses out the £ or the  Euro either way the Strenght and realiability of the Dollar which is backed up by Military might wins .Leo was just a rear gunner in the Euro team against Reese Mogg who plays outside Right for the pound .

[dalymount]

The USA co guarantors of the good Friday agreement ?

[john m]

The USA co guarantors of the good Friday agreement ?

YES .Watch the stock market today a lot of US business report their last quarter earnings .If they are shite and the Market dropps 1000 points that weakness will tell the EU to put the boot in on Brexit ..

[dalymount]

After tonights votes in the house of commons ,the British govt now have a strong mandate to go back to Brussels,and seek changes to the backstop.we'll see now how loyal they will be to Ireland,I guarantee they will hang us out to dry.I hope the people of this country bare this in mind,and vote with their feet to elect a member of the Irexit freedom party

[john m]

Nothing changed with that vote its non binding just like the actual referendum .But the American economy dosent look like it is impacted by the China Crisis strong Dollar .Now which currency gets punished the Euro or the pound .EU stand strong Euro stays Strong Brits Crash out pound crashes Absolutely no reason for the EU to back down .Brits dont mind a Crash Out pound drops by about 10% the cheaper pound allows more exports even with WTO tarriffs British exports will be cheaper than they were before the Brexit vote .British Business will survive ,Irish trade with the UK will be desimated .The Gay Foreigner played his hand badly every government job he had he made a mess of how he ever got the Taoiseachs job says a lot about FG .The Irexit freedom party provided they dont run a raving racist must have a chance of a seat in the Dublin constituency no chance anywhere else .

[john m]

Dublin 4 seats so you need 20% to get elected Shinners take 1 .FG do ok in poshville take one FF ,Greens ,Inde Labour Irexit all in the mid ten % .Greens or Labour whoever gets the highest first prefrence should be in play for the last seat FF will throw funds at Dublin .Big advantage for Irexit is the local elections are on the same day so every protest voter who come out on single issues might go for the protest party .I would make Irexit Freedom party with the right candidate about an 11/4 shot .Betfair offering 14/1 .

[The Liffey Lip]

Reducing everything to a bet is a bit tedious, John.....any wonder you only have to work 13 hrs a fortnight.

[dalymount]

What the EU say in public,and what they say in private are two different things.if it becomes more beneficial for the EU ,to hang Ireland out to dry in favour of a new deal with the brits,they will do it in a heartbeat,and wont think twice about it.do tou seriously think the EU give a fukk about Ireland ? we are only a pawn in their ongoing game of chess and I suspect this will become apparent in the event of time

[The Liffey Lip]

Project Fear: increased prices for fruit and veg leading to heart-disease and cancer etc etc.....manipulating the con.

[Belker]

I think they would accept a TIME LIMITED. period in the backstop,that migjt be a runner

No it won't, Coveney ruled that out on Day 1.

[The Liffey Lip]

What the EU say in public,and what they say in private are two different things.if it becomes more beneficial for the EU ,to hang Ireland out to dry in favour of a new deal with the brits,they will do it in a heartbeat,and wont think twice about it.do tou seriously think the EU give a fukk about Ireland ? we are only a pawn in their ongoing game of chess and I suspect this will become apparent in the event of time

Confused? Not the only one Dalyer............

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-backstop-and-its-possible-alternatives-901050.html

[Belker]

The 'North' is a Tinderbox just waiting to explode, the Proddies hate the Catholics and the Catholics hate them back just as much.

It won't take much to set fire to that Tinderbox, even a few years back when they changed the times of the Union Jack being flown over Stormont, it was enough to bring the Proddies out on to the streets to Riot.
The Queen's visit a few years later brought the Republicans out on the street to Riot.
So they don't need a really big excuse to Riot !

If there is a Hard border, then the Republicans will Riot and Riot Nordie style.
If there is Not a Hard border, then the Proddies will Riot and Riot Nordie style.

Either way, there will be Riot's !
I'm just glad I'm way down South here and let 'em at it !

[Belker]

And now the Septic Tanks/Bastarding Yanks have got their Oar in;

30 Jan 2019 08:08
A resolution has been introduced in the US Congress opposing the return of a hard border on the island of Ireland.
Irish-American Congressman Brendan Boyle is behind the move.
He said that now was the time for the US Congress to make it clear that it stands in strong opposition to a hard border.
After introducing the resolution in the House of Representatives, Congressman Boyle said: "One of the great foreign policy achievements of the 20th century was the Good Friday Agreement.
"It eliminated the hard border that then existed between Northern Ireland and the rest of Ireland. Now Brexit threatens this."
Congressman Boyle warned that a hard border would end the free flow of people between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, something which he said had proved fundamental to promoting peace and unity.
Earlier, he tweeted his response to the latest Brexit developments in the British parliament writing: "After agreeing to the Irish backstop, Theresa May’s government has now reneged on it. Why would anyone negotiate with her now?"

[dalymount]

Ken in the same way as you describe riots taking place  whichever way the border goes hard,or none,there would be riots in the streets if brexit was overturned through a second referendum.the leave side would never accept it