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Public Area => Sports and Gambling => Topic started by: john m on March 11, 2019, 01:42:00 pm
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Day one : Ballyward in the last @3/1 Mullins only entry in the race has a good record in it .
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Whats the rules... highest level stakes profit / lowest level stakes loss wins?
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betting to a tenner stake you choose SP or Board Price .Dont forget Powers offering stake back as a freebie if your pony finishes in the first 4 to a tenner stake .
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No chance of PP taking a tenner... for competition purposes there should be no specials. Keep it simple - how about a mythical €10 win or €5 each way per selection at SP or early/board price, as many selections as you like, no multiples... well, maybe a placepote?
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Ok does the horse have to be running at cheltenham ?
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No chance of PP taking a tenner... for competition purposes there should be no specials. Keep it simple - how about a mythical €10 win or €5 each way per selection at SP or early/board price, as many selections as you like, no multiples... well, maybe a placepote?
You wont believe this Rodent .The biggest betting event on earth and Paddy has cut the price on Ballyward from 3/1 to 5/2 after a small bet .
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I do believe it, erm. It's all very well giving stakes back when they only accept bets from dedicated losers!
Yes, horse has to be running at Cheltenham, Tues - Fri inclusive.
As many mythical €10 singles or €5 each way bets as you want - no multiples.
Early/board prices must be from http://oddschecker.com (http://oddschecker.com) and must state bookmaker and be correct at time of posting - No Exchange prices.
One Placepote per day per poster to the value of a mythical €50 - the €50 will be divided by the number of lines to the nearest cent to calculate unit stake.
All bets settled under Rules Of Racing - no double result, no BOG, no bookmaker bonuses/offers of any kind.
Selections to be posted at least 15 mins before the scheduled off time.
Will that do?
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Bouva dair 9/4 for the champion .Apples Jade hangs right when jumping and Larina the third fav has beat very little in her races
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Day one : Ballyward in the last @3/1 Mullins only entry in the race has a good record in it .
How many has he got earlier? How many is Paddy on? Keep going with them..........the nephew will make a few quid if he's still as thin as he was last yr....
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One Placepote per day per poster to the value of a mythical €50 - the €50 will be divided by the number of lines to the nearest cent to calculate unit stake.
Are Tote Quadpots allowed ?
If so then I am in fer a mythical 50 Euro worth of my 105.60 Placepot and Quadpot on today/Day 1.
If Not, then I'm in fer a mythical 50 Euro worth of my 86.40 Placepot.
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I'll have a Tenner on Apples Jade @ 2/1 (generally available) and a Tenner on Ballyward @ 3/1 with Unibet and Blacktype.
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Vision D'Honneur 14/1 in the 1.30. Putting a fiver ew on it myself....expecting to lose but hoping.....
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Tuesday:
13:30 Fakir D'oudairies
14:10 Duc Des Genievres
14:50 Minella Rocco
15:30 Apple's Jade
16:10 Benie Des Dieux
16:50 Springtown Lake
17:30 Ballyward
Placepot (8 lines):
13:30 18
14:10 3, 5
14:50 4, 16
15:30 8
16:10 2
16:50 11, 7
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Not a bad start, Rats....place? I was nowhere anyway.....
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Nowhere, LL. Lucky I'm not betting 'till Friday.
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Just caught I see...ah well. Power cut here...
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I once got a €50 tip!
Is that the biggest tip?
Is that what this thread is about?
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Josies Orders @10/1
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Ballyandy...no idea and too lazy to check price...5 ew.
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I'll have Fifty worth of my placepot today, Day 2.
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Wednesday
13:30 Battleoverdoyen
14:10 Topofthegame
14:50 Uradel
15:30 Altior
16:10 Tiger Roll
16:50 Band Of Outlaws
17:30 Envoi Allen
Placepot (16 lines)
13:30 2, 7
14:10 2, 10
14:50 17, 22
15:30 1
16:10 13
16:50 3, 17
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Just seen Big Dommos probation officer in the best dressed Mare at Cheltenham she was wearing the same frock she wore to his funeral .
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Wednesday
Placepot (16 lines)
13:30 2, 7
14:10 2, 10
14:50 17, 22
15:30 1
16:10 13
16:50 3, 17
Ya need to be picking about 5 in races like the Coral cup,
I'm still hanging in there by the 'skin of me teeth' !
2 Fav's unplaced so far.
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Chapman tipped up the Winner of the Coral this morning @40/1
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Ordinary World Place betting without Altior .
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Before the race Altior is a terrible price 4/11 to jump round and win somebody had 100K to win 40 Insane .
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KEN have you ever seen a worse book 4/11 fav 4/1 second fav and the rest of the field under 33/1 .
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Ya need to be picking about 5 in races like the Coral cup,
Indeed... still, I tipped 5 winners out of 7 races... not sure that pleases me, I was hoping Friday will be my good day as that's when I'll be having a few pints and betting...
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Ya need to be picking about 5 in races like the Coral cup,
Indeed... still, I tipped 5 winners out of 7 races... not sure that pleases me, I was hoping Friday will be my good day as that's when I'll be having a few pints and betting...
Nice tipping Rodent .I only had one bet Josies orders E/w no value in Altiors race 4/11 fav 4/1 Min and no better than 20/1 available on the rest of the field .Matt The Mouth Chapman tipped up the winner of the Coral on the morning line @40/1 .Iwas going to lay tiger @1/1 but there was no takers .
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I despise Matt Chapman. He comes across as a complete and utter idiot.
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I despise Matt Chapman. He comes across as a complete and utter idiot.
He is more of a cunt than that
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I'll have Fifty worth of my placepot today, Day 2.
I make that 8 winning lines out of 1080, Ken.
Stake per line = 5c
Return = 17.16 (42.90 dividend * 0.40)
Loss = 32.84
Correct?
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My totals so far is:
Tuesday
Singles -20.00 (1 winner @ 5/1)
Placepot -50.00
Wednesday
Singles +91.14 (5 winners @ 4/1, 4/11, 5/4, 7/2, 2/1)
Placepot -50.00
Loss = 28.86
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I'll get back to the erm's tomorrow... unless he (or someone else) does it in the interim.
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Two fallers yesterday -20
one loser today -10
overall -30
In real money im down about 86 yoyo .Lost 200 in the last yestyerday but got a bit back laying Apples jade ,had a small e/w on Josies Orders no value in the next two and didnt go near the bookies bumper .
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My Loss so far is actually 18.86. I miscalculated the singles on Tuesday, 1 winner @ 5/1 out of 7 selections gives a loss of 10.00 not 20.00 as posted above.
Anywaysanall, to add to that:
Thursday
13:30 Real Steel
14:10 First Assignment
14:50 Footpad
15:30 Paisley Park
16:10 Siruh Du Lac
16:50 Lust For Glory
17:30 Rogue Angel
Placepot (16 lines)
13:30 6
14:10 3, 6
14:50 5
15:30 10, 13
16:10 1, 12
16:50 1, 7
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Paisley Park is no price for a small gamble so Petit Mouchoir 5ew...33/1.
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The romantic in me Faughen in the stayers if he was at his best he would win this by a mile BUT !
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I despise Matt Chapman. He comes across as a complete and utter idiot.
He is more of a cunt than that
Ladies love him...men always call those types "cunts".
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1.30 Chelters..........
Defi du Seuil....score win........
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For the purpose of our competition all bets are a mythical €10 or €5 e.w. so we'll settle that as a mythical €10 win.
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Just trying it on. 11/4 and Boyles took it, nay bother....always pays to lose a few first.....
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I'm banned from all sports with Boyles.
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I'm banned from all sports with Boyles.
Is that competing or betting ?
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You must have thought you were allowed win?
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Just trying it on. 11/4 and Boyles took it, nay bother....always pays to lose a few first.....
All part of the plan for Friday.............. :-X
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My Grandnational horse Abolitionist runs his prep race in this hurdle Oh land abloom 5ew @66/1
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Betting, STC.
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Did number 7 win the 3rd race today?
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4th... No. 6 won.
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I'll have Fifty worth of my placepot today, Day 2.
I make that 8 winning lines out of 1080, Ken.
Stake per line = 5c
Return = 17.16 (42.90 dividend * 0.40)
Loss = 32.84
Correct?
Close !
108.00 stake, return 34.32 to .10c stake = 73.68 loss on the 108. stake.
On a Fifty euro stake the 73.68 loss multiplied by Fifty and divided by 108 = 34.11 loss.
And add on the 70 notes lost on Tuesday and I'm down 104.11.
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Cheltenham Tote Placepot, Day 4.
1/30. 3, 4, 5, 9, 12.
2/10. 2, 5, 7, 19, 21.
2/50. 1, 3, 4, 6, 12, 13, 16.
3/30. 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13.
4/10. 4, 6, 11, 15, 20, 24.
4/50. 3, 5, 8, 14, 18, 19.
5x5x7x6x6x6 = 37,800 lines @ .001323 cent per line is 50.00 stake.
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Triumph – Pentland Hills and Hannon (both small e/w)
County – Western Ryder and Storm Rising (ew)
Albert Bartlett – Nadaitak e/w
Gold Cup – Elegant Escape (e/w 4 places)
Grand Annual – Le Prezien (e/w)
Martin Pipe – Early Doors (e/w) and If You Say Run (ew)
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Plus a Tenner on Rhinestone SP in the 2.50.
And a Tenner on Double Whammy in the 4.10 at SP.
And a Tenner at SP on Coolanly in the 5.30.
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Friday
13:30 Sir Erec
14:10 Monsieur Lecoq
14:50 Commander Of Fleet
15:30 Bellshill
16:10 Caid Du Berlais
16:50 Not Another Muddle
17:30 Dallas Des Pictons
Placepot (16 lines)
13:30 12
14:10 4, 21
14:50 4, 6
15:30 3
16:10 4, 24
16:50 7, 18
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Nice 20/1 winner to start on top of 2 yesterday..........Cross-Guns tonight with the big boys in poker....
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Nice 20/1 winner to start on top of 2 yesterday..........Cross-Guns tonight with the big boys in poker....
Well done Lip, don't be foolish and give it away 2nite
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Cheers, but it's a only tiny money anyway....5ew on both horses....so half the divvy which is approx 65 profit...added on to yesterday's which was touching 300....minus the previous 2 days losses of approx 70 quid....all excluding my other tiny ew bets on others to come....I'll be delighted if I have a ton at the end of it...all a bit of banter..............that's all Stoney (Mr).
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Lost 62 yoyo over the 4 days .No bet today
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Lost 62 yoyo over the 4 days .No bet today
Brother of mine who is a rather large gambler fave me a bit of advice on Cheltenham a few years back.
All horses are in tip top shape , all trying , best off staying clear of this meeting, lost a couple of quid this week but by and large I usually don't back at Cheltenham meet.
Like to think I know more about Footie than horse's anyway.
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Lost 62 yoyo over the 4 days .No bet today
Brother of mine who is a rather large gambler fave me a bit of advice on Cheltenham a few years back.
All horses are in tip top shape , all trying , best off staying clear of this meeting, lost a couple of quid this week but by and large I usually don't back at Cheltenham meet.
Like to think I know more about Footie than horse's anyway.
Its not a meeting I like to much scamming .When bookies are paying 150K+ for a pitch for 4 days you know who is winning .Cheltenham and Galway could compete with Anglo or NAMA for stroking .
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Lost 62 yoyo over the 4 days .No bet today
Brother of mine who is a rather large gambler fave me a bit of advice on Cheltenham a few years back.
All horses are in tip top shape , all trying , best off staying clear of this meeting, lost a couple of quid this week but by and large I usually don't back at Cheltenham meet.
Like to think I know more about Footie than horse's anyway.
Its not a meeting I like to much scamming .When bookies are paying 150K+ for a pitch for 4 days you know who is winning .Cheltenham and Galway could compete with Anglo or NAMA for stroking .
Wer in the wrong business Urs. Should have been bookies
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So how much did you all lose.
I lost nothing as I didn’t bet on anything
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Midlands National.............Chef D'Oeuvre 5ew............today.
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Cheltenham Tote Placepot, Day 4.
1/30. 3, 4, 5, 9, 12.
2/10. 2, 5, 7, 19, 21.
2/50. 1, 3, 4, 6, 12, 13, 16.
3/30. 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13.
4/10. 4, 6, 11, 15, 20, 24.
4/50. 3, 5, 8, 14, 18, 19.
5x5x7x6x6x6 = 37,800 lines @ .001323 cent per line is 50.00 stake.
32 winning lines @ .001323 = .042336 cent worth of the 11,701.20 placepot = 495.38 return.
Less the 50 stake and the other 30 lost yesterday plus the 104.11 lost on first Two days I'm up 311.27 fer the 4 days.
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Fulham are crap but Liverpool got a great draw in the Champions league I wonder will some players be focusing on that liverpool @1/5 look one to lay for a small bit
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My total:
Tuesday
Singles -10.00 (1 winner @ 5/1)
Placepot -50.00
Wednesday
Singles +91.14 (5 winners @ 4/1, 4/11, 5/4, 7/2, 2/1)
Placepot -50.00
Wednesday
Singles +8.75 (2 winners @ 11/8, 9/2)
Placepot -50.00
Friday
Singles -70.00
Placepot -50.00
Loss = 180.11
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Anyone beat Ken? If he won it's probably my fault for framing the rules in such a way that he could manipulate the mathematics rather than tip horses. LL clearly gave the best tips by a long way!
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Anyone beat Ken? If he won it's probably my fault for framing the rules in such a way that he could manipulate the mathematics rather than tip horses. LL clearly gave the best tips by a long way!
Well with 4 days of racing and 7 races a day, if I was to bet on all the races I’d have put a tender on each race so I’m up €280. Ken still wins.
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If you just done a tenner a race you woulda been up €19.89 (at SP, more if you took the guaranteed prices) with very little outlay if you followed my selections. As it happens you broke even by not backing anything. Ken's win is more down to manipulation of the mathematical flaws in the competition rules. In the real world the minimum unit stake on a placepot is 10p so 37,800 lines is beyond the reach of most punters.
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^ not sure how you would have done following LLs tips... if he (or someone else) doesn't add it up in the meantime I'll do it tomorrow or Monday. Not the first time he's come good at Cheltenham though... for me, as a punter, Cheltenham was always a losing affair until a few years back when I followed LLs selections and made a few quid. If memory serves, MMW has had a good year or two as well but he didn't participate in our competition this year.
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I’d look at what the experts were saying and probably back the 2nd most common horse and do it each way so I probably would have won something. But would still be down money.
The Erm must have lost the house, haven’t heard from him
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^ not sure how you would have done following LLs tips... if he (or someone else) doesn't add it up in the meantime I'll do it tomorrow or Monday. Not the first time he's come good at Cheltenham though... for me, as a punter, Cheltenham was always a losing affair until a few years back when I followed LLs selections and made a few quid. If memory serves, MMW has had a good year or two as well but he didn't participate in our competition this year.
No, not worth adding up. I can't match 3 ton plus winnings but my bets were all 5ers except for the Pasley Park one which I won almost 300 on.....all told, in the real world, I was up less than 120 Euro...end of story. The virtual one here is irrelevant, in reality. You've some memory Rats,,,,,,,,,,,,,Carlito Brigante, c/o Mick Ryanair.............his other jockey threw himself off at the 3rd last, I think.........won at 22/1........Think Mouse Morris trained another that yr too...can't recall its name.........that tip came from a fellow who was a chiropractor in Dublin I was attending........he turned to drink I heard.
Coral Cup 2011 (had to look it up).
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Cheltenham Tote Placepot, Day 4.
1/30. 3, 4, 5, 9, 12.
2/10. 2, 5, 7, 19, 21.
2/50. 1, 3, 4, 6, 12, 13, 16.
3/30. 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13.
4/10. 4, 6, 11, 15, 20, 24.
4/50. 3, 5, 8, 14, 18, 19.
5x5x7x6x6x6 = 37,800 lines @ .001323 cent per line is 50.00 stake.
32 winning lines @ .001323 = .042336 cent worth of the 11,701.20 placepot = 495.38 return.
....... Ken's win is more down to manipulation of the mathematical flaws in the competition rules. In the real world the minimum unit stake on a placepot is 10p so 37,800 lines is beyond the reach of most punters.
Your right Stephen I did manipulate the forum rules a tad, unwittingly at first, but when I saw the stake flaw in the rules, I did exaggerate it to the hilt. oops
Still my last day bet shows the true value of the placepot if you are willing to invest big money. If I had done that bet fer the minimum Tote requirement of .10c per line then the stake would have been 3780. Euro and the return would have been 36,120.98 !
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^ not sure how you would have done following LLs tips... if he (or someone else) doesn't add it up in the meantime I'll do it tomorrow or Monday. Not the first time he's come good at Cheltenham though... for me, as a punter, Cheltenham was always a losing affair until a few years back when I followed LLs selections and made a few quid. If memory serves, MMW has had a good year or two as well but he didn't participate in our competition this year.
Had a good first 3 days and blew nearly it all on the last day,main bets on the Friday were Sir Erek (broke leg) and Kemboy (fell at the first).
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It's over, as The Big O declared........took her to the Dubs and Tyrone match only for Tyrone to put manners on Dublin.....the road to hell is paved with good intentions....she wants to go to Breffni Park next weekend to see them play Cavan...
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Your right Stephen I did manipulate the forum rules a tad, unwittingly at first, but when I saw the stake flaw in the rules, I did exaggerate it to the hilt. oops
Still my last day bet shows the true value of the placepot if you are willing to invest big money. If I had done that bet fer the minimum Tote requirement of .10c per line then the stake would have been 3780. Euro and the return would have been 36,120.98 !
If we applied the rules strictly as written your return would have been zero as your unit stake to the nearest 1c would be 0c. However, it's only a bit of fun and I could get what you were demonstrating. I think we'll go back to a starting bank for future competitions, probably with a 10c min unit stake on placepots?
I've never seen so many runners on gold cup day before... nearly every race had 20+ declared so I guess it was a fair assumption that the placepot dividend would be substantial but what if every favourite placed and the dividend was a couple of ton? Big investment = big risk.
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Agreed, but I would love to play fer 3 or 4K per day but I'm not willing to possibly (but unlikely) lose up to 15K on the week.
Also agreed Tote placepot forum rules should be in line with actual rules and have the same minimum unit stake.
But I will pick out a few bumper big stake placepots next year (outside of the forum competition) just fer a birra fun.