kids killing kids

[Belker]

I'm getting confused with the court proceedings, boy B has had all his Garda interviews shown to the jury, but none of boy A's interviews which I'm guessing there were loads of have been shown to the jury and now the prosecution team have finished with their case.
Why were boy A's interview tapes not shown to the jury ?

I am well aware that this is a highly sensitive case and all involving minors, I'm just putting my thoughts on the case out there.

[john m]

I'm getting confused with the court proceedings, boy B has had all his Garda interviews shown to the jury, but none of boy A's interviews which I'm guessing there were loads of have been shown to the jury and now the prosecution team have finished with their case.
Why were boy A's interview tapes not shown to the jury ?

I am well aware that this is a highly sensitive case and all involving minors, I'm just putting my thoughts on the case out there.

Boy A never gave any statement he is a phyco .The Case is really about  A is guilty and Boy B is trying to get off with Murder by trying to play the innocent patsy of boy A .

[Belker]

That would make sense, it will be interesting to see what his defence will be today ?

[stonethecrows]

That would make sense, it will be interesting to see what his defence will be today ?

They will probably try a "Mental Issue" card

[john m]

That would make sense, it will be interesting to see what his defence will be today ?

Having read most of the court reports .The school copy with the rules of their club found in Boy Bs house is enough evidence to suggest that they both planned it ..We dont know the personalities of the kids Im sure Phycs and Social workers will put their tuppence worth into it .I remember kid A was battered .He might be going to play the self defence card saying she attacked him and it was a fight that excited him and yes he sexually assaulted her yes he killed her but it was sporadic and not planned .That would be manslaughter not Murder .Its a tragic case for everybody involved .

[stonethecrows]

That would make sense, it will be interesting to see what his defence will be today ?

Having read most of the court reports .The school copy with the rules of their club found in Boy Bs house is enough evidence to suggest that they both planned it ..We dont know the personalities of the kids Im sure Phycs and Social workers will put their tuppence worth into it .I remember kid A was battered .He might be going to play the self defence card saying she attacked him and it was a fight that excited him and yes he sexually assaulted her yes he killed her but it was sporadic and not planned .That would be manslaughter not Murder .Its a tragic case for everybody involved .

And of course Boy B did bring the unfortunate girl to meet Boy A, be interesting to see if that makes him an accessory to the crime

[john m]

both are charged with murder judge might not let the jury return any other verdict .Murder must have malace a forethought and from the evidence I read they are both guilty they planned it bit like two blokes going out to do a shooting the driver is as guilty as the triggerman ,be interesting to see what the defence come up with .All I can see as a defence is he and her went for a bit of sex she panicked he panicked and lost control if they can convince the court of that then its not murder its manslaughter .for boy A and boy B might get a walk .

[The Liffey Lip]

That would make sense, it will be interesting to see what his defence will be today ?

They will probably try a "Mental Issue" card

Usually only works for females. Our history is shameful in this regard...Men's own fault for not keeping a diary of domestic abuse inflicted on them. Reporting your Mrs for abuse is sadly not done by so-called traditionalist males and then they're mystified when they end up potless or in stir.

[Octavia1]

both are charged with murder judge might not let the jury return any other verdict .Murder must have malace a forethought and from the evidence I read they are both guilty they planned it bit like two blokes going out to do a shooting the driver is as guilty as the triggerman ,be interesting to see what the defence come up with .All I can see as a defence is he and her went for a bit of sex she panicked he panicked and lost control if they can convince the court of that then its not murder its manslaughter .for boy A and boy B might get a walk .

Depends.... We had a judge recently say to a serial sexually offender taxi driver.... He could drive his Taxi but not to have any one at arms lenght in the front in case he got the fiddlin urge........  Whilst that is world's away from cold blooded premeditated  rape and butchery......... I would expect it to be advantageous for  the perpetrators if they possess a tan

[john m]

Defence are summing up .No defence being offered ? Based on what I read Boy A gets life but probably in Dundrum a fucking nutjob .Boy B if they bought his story that he was a patsy might get off but the school Copy they found in his gaff where they wrote down the rules of their club and the fact he didnt go straight to the Garda when Anna was reported missing means he was complisit so Guilty as well .

[Dr. Martin Gooter Bling]

parents of both suspects could be in a world of shite after for putting Ana's parents through a trial.
the parents of the kids that murdered jamie bolger were ran out of the area.

[john m]

parents of both suspects could be in a world of shite after for putting Ana's parents through a trial.
the parents of the kids that murdered jamie bolger were ran out of the area.

I thinkits obvious A is guilty I wonder if the trialis just to establish the Guilt or Innocence of B .Shocking for all families involved no parent bread a kid to be a killer .

[Dr. Martin Gooter Bling]

the only sympathy you can have is for the girl's parents.
if the two suspects had of told the truth and pled guilty from the start then it would be a different story.

[john m]

the only sympathy you can have is for the girl's parents.
if the two suspects had of pled guilty from the start then it would be a different story.

Dont know Doc I read all the PUBLISHED evidence .What Im seeing is Boy B is trying to claim he didnt know yer man was going to kill her so he cannot be guilty of murder .it might of suited his case better for both to plead inocent .If A had of pleaded guilty then he could of said B knew but as both pleaded inocent he was never going to say he knew I was going to murder her .At first I thought B might be a patsy but they found a copy book with the rules of their secret club that could be interpreted as planning and that would make both Guilty .The evidence that was not published might be more obvious .

[silverbullet]

both are charged with murder judge might not let the jury return any other verdict .Murder must have malace a forethought and from the evidence I read they are both guilty they planned it bit like two blokes going out to do a shooting the driver is as guilty as the triggerman ,be interesting to see what the defence come up with .All I can see as a defence is he and her went for a bit of sex she panicked he panicked and lost control if they can convince the court of that then its not murder its manslaughter .for boy A and boy B might get a walk .

Depends.... We had a judge recently say to a serial sexually offender taxi driver.... He could drive his Taxi but not to have any one at arms lenght in the front in case he got the fiddlin urge........  Whilst that is world's away from cold blooded premeditated  rape and butchery......... I would expect it to be advantageous for  the perpetrators if they possess a tan

They do.