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Offline watty

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Greens new target is brake disc & tyre dust
« on: July 11, 2019, 05:40:32 PM »
Forget your electric taxis.  We'll be giving people piggy-backs to earn a crust before too long  ::fds

Electric cars WON'T end air pollution: Government warns that brake dust and tyre particles from all vehicles could soon 'have a greater public health impact than exhaust fumes'

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Damaging levels of pollution will still be released into the atmosphere even if electric cars become widespread, a Government report has warned.

Brake, tyre and road surface wear all contribute to dangerous emissions - regardless of the type of vehicle used.

Plastic debris created from this wear and tear also contributes as much as 28 per cent of the total microplastics added to the ocean worldwide.

It's The Daily Mail so it may or may not be true!
The Air Quality Expert Group's Non-Exhaust Emissions from Road Traffic report said that the best way to reduce emissions is to lower the overall volume of traffic.

Other green ideas detailed in the report include lowering the motorway speed limits and creating emissions limits for brake pads and tyres.

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Re: Greens new target is brake disc & tyre dust
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2019, 05:53:03 PM »
Pretty much stating the obvious in concluding that "the best way to reduce emissions is to lower the overall volume of traffic". Most motor manufacturers have some sort of interest in "mobility solutions" that aim to do that without impacting on their bottom lines.

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Re: Greens new target is brake disc & tyre dust
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2019, 05:57:50 PM »
P.S. Reducing speed limits could significantly reduce emissions from tyres and brake pads... if speed limits were enforced.

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Re: Greens new target is brake disc & tyre dust
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2019, 05:58:51 PM »
Professor Luke O Neill in his book "Humanology" maintains that autonomous vehicles will eliminate traffic and parking problems. Have the book on Kindle and am too lazy to try to find the appropriate reasoning which I have forgotten.
Is anyone aware of his reasoning? People will still have to travel in cars/vehicles. Or was it just parking that he thinks will be eliminated?
"Ring the bells that still can ring, forget your perfect offering, there is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in". LC

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Re: Greens new target is brake disc & tyre dust
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2019, 06:06:01 PM »
I haven't read the book but it seems obvious that autonomous vehicles can improve efficiency in allocation of road space. Variable speed limits have proven that to some extent e.g. the deployment of "safety cars" on the M25 in London to enforce limits when temporarily lowered to prevent tailbacks. I guess we must assume that autonomous vehicles will obey the rules of the road at all times and follow traffic sensitive route allocations and/or restrictions as appropriate.

Similarly, in simple terms, if you remove the driver from a saloon taxi/hackney/clapped out shitebox masquerading as a limousine you increase it's passenger accommodation potential by 25%.
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Re: Greens new target is brake disc & tyre dust
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2019, 06:06:18 PM »
You're the one with the book - you tell us  ;D

Presumably he thinks people will share their personal car.  But I wonder how many people would want to share their car at 7.30am on their way into work.  Or hang around after work waiting for their neighbours to turn up so they can drive them back home again in their personal car.

And who's gonna spend 30k on a robocar so they can drive their freeloading neighbours into town (assuming they like them in the first place).

The contrarians argue that robocars might make things worse.  People will 'drive' their robocar into town and tell it to drive around in circles while they do their business.  Multiply that by 1,000 people and you've got gridlock!

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Re: Greens new target is brake disc & tyre dust
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2019, 06:12:18 PM »
We are heading for 4 corners Europe ,China .India USA big trade wars .India and china wont give a fuck about environment so the rest cant afford to play on their own .The solution is simple there are tomany people expelling carbon monoxide in their breath so reduce the population we need a war to protect the environment kill about 3 or 4 billion people .Less people means less cars and less congestion so less emissions .

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Re: Greens new target is brake disc & tyre dust
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2019, 06:13:52 PM »
The whole aim of "mobility solutions" is to change how people think, WD. Irish (in the broad sense) taxi drivers are doing more than our fair share in promoting mobility solutions for Daimler/BMUU.

 


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