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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #60 on: September 30, 2019, 09:54:16 am »
Ochy, sorry to hear about the 2 ladies in your life , I'm sure the one next door will see sense, tell her your a cross dresser and it was your earring. If all else fails you could always go out and but a telly !
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« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2019, 10:54:57 am »
Ochy, sorry to hear about the 2 ladies in your life , I'm sure the one next door will see sense, tell her your a cross dresser and it was your earring. If all else fails you could always go out and but a telly !

Thanks mr crow....yur the only bloke on here who has a heart and empathy and niceness.....theres a couple others but the rest are all hardened criminals type who,d  rob the eye out of yur head ..... ::fight
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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #62 on: September 30, 2019, 10:58:08 am »
Ochy, sorry to hear about the 2 ladies in your life , I'm sure the one next door will see sense, tell her your a cross dresser and it was your earring. If all else fails you could always go out and but a telly !

Thanks mr crow....yur the only bloke on here who has a heart and empathy and niceness.....theres a couple others but the rest are all hardened criminals type who,d  rob the eye out of yur head ..... ::fight
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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #63 on: September 30, 2019, 11:35:35 am »
Get a room lads .

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« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2019, 01:48:02 pm »
Get a room lads .

Get a fukin life lads!!

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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #65 on: September 30, 2019, 02:53:07 pm »
 AUTONOMY

42. Autonomy as a part of the power process may not be necessary for every individual. But most people need a greater or lesser degree of autonomy in working toward their goals. Their efforts must be undertaken on their own initiative and must be under their own direction and control. Yet most people do not have to exert this initiative, direction and control as single individuals. It is usually enough to act as a member of a SMALL group. Thus if half a dozen people discuss a goal among themselves and make a successful joint effort to attain that goal, their need for the power process will be served. But if they work under rigid orders handed down from above that leave them no room for autonomous decision and initiative, then their need for the power process will not be served. The same is true when decisions are made on a collective basis if the group making the collective decision is so large that the role of each individual is insignificant. [5]

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« Reply #66 on: September 30, 2019, 02:53:45 pm »
 43. It is true that some individuals seem to have little need for autonomy. Either their drive for power is weak or they satisfy it by identifying themselves with some powerful organization to which they belong. And then there are unthinking, animal types who seem to be satisfied with a purely physical sense of power (the good combat soldier, who gets his sense of power by developing fighting skills that he is quite content to use in blind obedience to his superiors).

44. But for most people it is through the power process—having a goal, making an AUTONOMOUS effort and attaining the goal—that self-esteem, self-confidence and a sense of power are acquired. When one does not have adequate opportunity to go through the power process the consequences are (depending on the individual and on the way the power process is disrupted) boredom, demoralization, low self-esteem, inferiority feelings, defeatism, depression, anxiety, guilt, frustration, hostility, spouse or child abuse, insatiable hedonism, abnormal sexual behavior, sleep disorders, eating disorders, etc. [6]

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« Reply #67 on: September 30, 2019, 05:21:45 pm »

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.....theres a couple others but the rest are all hardened criminals type who,d  rob the eye out of yur head ..... ::fight
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And then swear on oath that you were born blind.... ::fds

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« Reply #68 on: October 01, 2019, 04:24:44 pm »
 SOURCES OF SOCIAL PROBLEMS

45. Any of the foregoing symptoms can occur in any society, but in modern industrial society they are present on a massive scale. We aren’t the first to mention that the world today seems to be going crazy. This sort of thing is not normal for human societies. There is good reason to believe that primitive man suffered from less stress and frustration and was better satisfied with his way of life than modern man is. It is true that not all was sweetness and light in primitive societies. Abuse of women was common among the Australian aborigines, transexuality was fairly common among some of the American Indian tribes. But it does appear that GENERALLY SPEAKING the kinds of problems that we have listed in the preceding paragraph were far less common among primitive peoples than they are in modern society.

46. We attribute the social and psychological problems of modern society to the fact that that society requires people to live under conditions radically different from those under which the human race evolved and to behave in ways that conflict with the patterns of behavior that the human race developed while living under the earlier conditions. It is clear from what we have already written that we consider lack of opportunity to properly experience the power process as the most important of the abnormal conditions to which modern society subjects people. But it is not the only one. Before dealing with disruption of the power process as a source of social problems we will discuss some of the other sources.

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« Reply #69 on: October 01, 2019, 04:25:28 pm »
 47. Among the abnormal conditions present in modern industrial society are excessive density of population, isolation of man from nature, excessive rapidity of social change and the breakdown of natural small-scale communities such as the extended family, the village or the tribe.

48. It is well known that crowding increases stress and aggression. The degree of crowding that exists today and the isolation of man from nature are consequences of technological progress. All pre-industrial societies were predominantly rural. The Industrial Revolution vastly increased the size of cities and the proportion of the population that lives in them, and modern agricultural technology has made it possible for the Earth to support a far denser population than it ever did before. (Also, technology exacerbates the effects of crowding because it puts increased disruptive powers in people’s hands. For example, a variety of noise- making devices: power mowers, radios, motorcycles, etc. If the use of these devices is unrestricted, people who want peace and quiet are frustrated by the noise. If their use is restricted, people who use the devices are frustrated by the regulations. But if these machines had never been invented there would have been no conflict and no frustration generated by them.)

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Re: The Unabomber Trial: The Manifesto
« Reply #70 on: October 01, 2019, 04:32:16 pm »
I'm really starting to like Ted's Manifesto !

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« Reply #71 on: October 02, 2019, 04:09:00 am »
I'm really starting to like Ted's Manifesto !

No 48 brilliant.....I friggin hate leaf blowers....cople months back I went down to the gardeners supervisor bloke an tapped him on the shoulders.........now on this mornin  I was bein awoken at 8.30 in the mornin by 3 fukin leaf blowers run by a pakistani, an 2 retarded looking polish blokes......
Anyway I was feeling very violent an up for it like I was steaming inside like yosemite Sam .....I really did say to meself ...rite this is it .....kill them all then do yurself in ya need to neutralise this situation with biblical vengeance......
Anyway I tapped the cnut on the shoulder an said " wer do yu live" ?
"Sorry" ? He said
" wer do yu live" I said ..." ide like to go over to yur garden in the morning and use one them fukin yokes an wake you up at all hours of the morning " an then ide like to shove it up yur hole ......
" no need to be like that we only doing our job"
" Like wat " I said
" I'm asking you a question.....how wud yu like to be  woken up  in the mornin by that noise "
" wer just doing our job man" he said wit the 3 immigrant tards surrounds me takin off ther ear muffs an tryin to do a rouse throwing few shapes.......
" listen"  i said
" do yu not realise its fukin July......an yur blowing leafs around that have prematurely fallen because  global warming an of burning petrol an them fukin tings run on petrol can yu not see the fukin irony? an you blow the leaves off the path onto the grass an wen yur gone they blow back again and the whole ting is completely and fukin utterly
Futile and a waste of fukin time and money " an on top of that I cant fukin sleep......
"Do you not fukin realise yur breaking the law aswell wit the noise level of them fukin tings ....do you not know how to use a fukin rake or a brush an get some fukin exercise for fuk sake....I was roaring me head of but the relief was bein felt down to me toes ....." fook off with your noisey cnutin
Fukin useless shite "
Packed up they did there an then .......drove off in ther van ....

Have to say I felt fukkin wonderful......

Another ting that annoys me .....
Umbrellas.........I fukin hate umbrellas

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« Reply #72 on: October 02, 2019, 04:10:09 pm »
.....Another ting that annoys me .....
Umbrellas.........I fukin hate umbrellas
What's the problem with umbrellas Octy ?

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« Reply #73 on: October 02, 2019, 04:11:16 pm »
 49. For primitive societies the natural world (which usually changes only slowly) provided a stable framework and therefore a sense of security. In the modern world it is human society that dominates nature rather than the other way around, and modern society changes very rapidly owing to technological change. Thus there is no stable framework.

50. The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.

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« Reply #74 on: October 02, 2019, 04:11:56 pm »
 51. The breakdown of traditional values to some extent implies the breakdown of the bonds that hold together traditional small-scale social groups. The disintegration of small-scale social groups is also promoted by the fact that modern conditions often require or tempt individuals to move to new locations, separating themselves from their communities. Beyond that, a technological society HAS TO weaken family ties and local communities if it is to function efficiently. In modern society an individual’s loyalty must be first to the system and only secondarily to a small-scale community, because if the internal loyalties of small-scale communities were stronger than loyalty to the system, such communities would pursue their own advantage at the expense of the system.

52. Suppose that a public official or a corporation executive appoints his cousin, his friend or his co- religionist to a position rather than appointing the person best qualified for the job. He has permitted personal loyalty to supersede his loyalty to the system, and that is “nepotism” or “discrimination,” both of which are terrible sins in modern society. Would-be industrial societies that have done a poor job of subordinating personal or local loyalties to loyalty to the system are usually very inefficient. (Look at Latin America.) Thus an advanced industrial society can tolerate only those small-scale communities that are emasculated, tamed and made into tools of the system. [7]

 


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