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Varadkar finally sees the light
« on: December 26, 2019, 04:16:46 pm »


Tourists find Irish nightlife 'disappointing', Taoiseach says



By Juno McEnroe


Ireland's drinking laws should be reviewed as visitors here often are left disappointed when premises serving alcohol shut down too early, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has said.

Mr Varadkar said the licensing laws needed to change, as he noted cities such as Madrid and Berlin where premises stay open all night and there has not been an increase in public order offences.


Asked by journalists if the licensing laws were archaic and needed change with tourists being asked to leave licensed venues at 11pm, Mr Varadkar responded:

“Yeah, I think they do. I don't necessarily think that we need to have the same licensing laws for everywhere. Suburban Dublin is different to town and rural areas are different again. So I think we do need to have a degree of local control around licensing.

But, you know, people who come to Dublin and come to other Irish cities and people go abroad from Ireland do say that our nightlife can be disappointing and that premises shut down too early.

“It's very different in Madrid or Germany or other places, you know where places can stay open all night. And that doesn't lead to increased levels of public order offences and can be better in terms of transport because instead of everyone rushing out in the streets looking for a taxi at the same time, that's spread over a longer period of time. And it's an area that I think we need change in.”

Representatives of licensed venues and festivals told an Oireachtas Committee recently that businesses were closing because of the restrictive drinking laws.

The committee was told that there are no specific provisions for the operation of nightclubs, late bars or other late-night entertainment outlets under the Licensing Acts. Therefor, nightclubs and late bars are allowed stay open beyond normal hours on the basis of the “special exemption order” mechanism, in which they have to apply with specific reasons.

Department of Justice officials told the committee that a public consultation on bar and nightclub hours was forthcoming.

Arts Minister Josepha Madigan is currently assessing late night opening hours, but for facilities and events such as galleries, poetry readings and music.

Two pilot projects are underway looking at how night mayors can help develop night activities in cities, including Cork.

But Ms Madigan’s officials say drink-serving hours are not part of this assessment.

Nonetheless, Mr Varadkar believes Ms Madigan is overseeing any changes on this:

“Minister Madigan is leading a group on this. And also we put out the idea of authorities appointing night mayors. And other things to reinvigorate our nightlife, which of course shouldn't be all about drink. You know, one of the weird things is that licenced premises, even if they have stopped serving alcohol, they can't stay open.

You know there may be people who still want to stay open and dance and so on and they're not allowed to, once you stop serving drink you have to close down I think within half an hour or so, so they are really archaic. I think we can do better for people who enjoy the night in Ireland and tourists and it is something that we are very much working on.

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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2019, 04:52:13 pm »
I've been sayin that since the 80's.

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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2019, 08:15:12 pm »
I’ve been saying it since they changed the laws about 8-10 years ago.
Places used to close at different times spreading out the work for night time drivers and resellers, whereas now everywhere closes at 2:30am

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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2019, 08:41:25 pm »
time to do away with that not being able to buy Arthur Scargill after 10pm gick as well.

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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2019, 06:58:23 am »
We need longer licensing hours as much as we need another famine !

Granted the offie should be the same as the pubs, and the ridiculous 12.30pm on Sundays and church holidays should go, but leave the rest alone, not like anyone takes any notice of it at all outside of any city bounds.

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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2019, 06:59:01 am »
I've been sayin that since the 80's.
Why do you think that Hal ?

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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2019, 11:22:53 am »
Dumb fuck thinks they should build a bridge between Norn Eireann and Scotland while here at home he wont build houses .

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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2019, 12:09:14 pm »
I've been sayin that since the 80's.
Why do you think that Hal ?

Wasn't that long ago that one TD wanted all the takeaways in town(Dame St in particular)to close before pub/nightclub closing time to stop people hanging around leading to fights etc.....closing times imo lead to binge drinking.....only in this fukin country when the lights flash there would be a queue 10 deep at the bar with cunts ordering 4 pints,4 G&T's,2 baby guinness and a whiskey chaser...and that was just for their burds.....but they decide to close the offies at 10pm to stop binge drinking.

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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2019, 12:25:30 pm »
The publican lobby is in action but young people are smoking and snorting the day of the pub is over its an occasional outing now not a way of life .Greedy money grabbing publicans while off licence prices dropped and sales moved to supermarkets the publicans tried to maintain their margins by increasing prices at will .When I start drinking the price of a pint in every pub was the same now it can be nearly double .Back in the day Publicans spent big on decoration and maintenance now they wont wash the windows .Even GAA clubs dont open the bar mid week.

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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2019, 12:27:08 pm »
This is good for us if it happens.Staggered hours mean less pressure on night drivers at closing time.Less hungry bastards having to sell people to sell drink to from their boot at a 60% mark up...Less lads picking and choosing their jobs and trying to charge more than the metered fare.Less chance of the NTA opening the flood gates again so wide...more revenue for the government to pay for all the 24 hour ambulances and cops.Probably won't happen though.

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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2019, 12:51:27 pm »
They should make the Chinese stay open 'till the last man leaves the last pub to close in every town. Personally I doubt Dublin publicans want to do away with closing time. Where closing time is of less consequence you just get different groups going in to the bar at different times. For example, I often go to my local well after 23:00 'cos I know there's no hurry to leave but if I'm going for a pint in Kyles up above in Dublin I'll be in by 21:15 'cos I know they'll stop serving shortly after 23:32. From the publican's point of view it probably makes more sense to keep all the drinking classes on the same timetable as turnover doesn't necessarily increase by staying open later but overheads do.
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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2019, 03:42:12 pm »
They should make the Chinese stay open 'till the last man leaves the last pub to close in every town. Personally I doubt Dublin publicans want to do away with closing time. Where closing time is of less consequence you just get different groups going in to the bar at different times. For example, I often go to my local well after 23:00 'cos I know there's no hurry to leave but if I'm going for a pint in Kyles up above in Dublin I'll be in by 21:15 'cos I know they'll stop serving shortly after 23:32. From the publican's point of view it probably makes more sense to keep all the drinking classes on the same timetable as turnover doesn't necessarily increase by staying open later but overheads do.
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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2019, 10:56:52 am »
I've been sayin that since the 80's.
Why do you think that Hal ?
Wasn't that long ago that one TD wanted all the takeaways in town(Dame St in particular)to close before pub/nightclub closing time to stop people hanging around leading to fights etc.....closing times imo lead to binge drinking.....only in this fukin country when the lights flash there would be a queue 10 deep at the bar with cunts ordering 4 pints,4 G&T's,2 baby guinness and a whiskey chaser...and that was just for their burds.....but they decide to close the offies at 10pm to stop binge drinking.
So if we were to get longer licencing hours and the Lights didn't Flash anymore.
What exactly do you think the outcome fer Paddy the Irishman would be, Hal ?

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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2019, 11:03:58 am »
Verooka just wants the bars to open later cause hes probably an alcoholic.....
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Re: Varadkar finally sees the light
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2019, 11:45:40 am »
I've been sayin that since the 80's.
Why do you think that Hal ?
Wasn't that long ago that one TD wanted all the takeaways in town(Dame St in particular)to close before pub/nightclub closing time to stop people hanging around leading to fights etc.....closing times imo lead to binge drinking.....only in this fukin country when the lights flash there would be a queue 10 deep at the bar with cunts ordering 4 pints,4 G&T's,2 baby guinness and a whiskey chaser...and that was just for their burds.....but they decide to close the offies at 10pm to stop binge drinking.
So if we were to get longer licencing hours and the Lights didn't Flash anymore.
What exactly do you think the outcome fer Paddy the Irishman would be, Hal ?
They have 24 hour drinking in UK, but pubs, clubs, nightclubs can choose to close at anytime thy wish. Usual the local pubs still close at their normal times, but if resellers want to continue drinking they move to another establishment

 


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