Border required on the Irish Sea?

[john m]

There will be no border in the Irish sea Leo will get Quinn to build a wall .The Good Friday allows any Irish Passport Holder work or reside in the UK its a loophole that means come to Ireland and qualify for an Irish Passport then fuck off and live in Britain .The way to plug that loophole is a United Ireland and the UK can Dump the North and it wont be part of the UK so the dual residency freedom of movement crap goes with the United Ireland .900,000 new Irish passports issued over the Last 3 years how many holders are already in the UK ?

What about the British Citizens(rejects) that reside in Norn Iron? Would they be forced to become “Oirish” or whatever the joined up country might be called OR be compensated for having to move to the “UK”

Brits wouldnt give a fuck Norn Eireann is a barrier to Brexit if it suits them they will dump it .The real reason they hold on to it is the same one they hold on to the Falklands If you draw two straight lines from the edges of the British Part of Ireland straight up to the north pole then Britain have a teritorial claim on that part of the arctic .

[dalymount]

The ICTU are well aware there are people working here in our restraunts,hotels,cafes,etc working for WELL below the minimum rate,yet they have not uttered one word in condemnation of this utter exploitation of these people

[john m]

John
Is there such a thing as a minimum rate of pay ?
Is it applicable to all workers who qualify for it ?
Is it illegal for an employer not to pay it  ?-
If the answer is yes to the above,then employers are breaking the law if they dont respect it.

See there you go again not understanding .Are the Brits banning Self Employed people coming to pick Fruit ?The new rules only apply to EMPLOYERS .Are self employed people in Britain entitled to Claim Welfare .

[john m]

The ICTU are well aware there are people working here in our restraunts,hotels,cafes,etc working for WELL below the minimum rate,yet they have not uttered one word in condemnation of this utter exploitation of these people

I doubt there are many if any people working for less than minimum wage in this country .If you have evidence post it or is this the same as African Rapist Taxi Drivers and Muslim terrorists .All bollox .

[dalymount]

No John,its not bollox.do you not remember the infamous Irish ferries incident years ago .that set a precedent for employers at the time,and its still going on to this day.do you seriously believe all foreign workers here are being the correct rate ?

[john m]

No John,its not bollox.do you not remember the infamous Irish ferries incident years ago .that set a precedent for employers at the time,and its still going on to this day.do you seriously believe all foreign workers here are being the correct rate ?

Again your confused .Irish Ferries was a Philipino registered company and they met the Standards of the country their employees were employed in .The Minimum wage only applies to workers employed in this state are you suggesting that seafarers should be on flexi rate and paid the rate of the country in which waters they are sailing .Should they clock in and out as they cross time zones .Hard cases make bad examples .Try again .

[john m]

The ICTU are well aware there are people working here in our restraunts,hotels,cafes,etc working for WELL below the minimum rate,yet they have not uttered one word in condemnation of this utter exploitation of these people

Dont get me started on Unions .They insisted on breaks for Miners who hit Donkeys with sticks to make them move faster but wouldnt look for a drink of water for the Donkey who was doing most of the Work .

[dalymount]

So if what you say is correct that Irish ferries were outside our,jurisdiction at the time and the minimum rate did not apply ,why was there mass protest about it by ICTU ,the only one they ever organised to protect the welfare of low paid workers who were beinh exploited.as far as I remember one wonam  in particular was the subject of this protest,and she was awarded a large sum of money in compensation

[john m]

So if what you say is correct that Irish ferries were outside our,jurisdiction at the time and the minimum rate did not apply ,why was there mass protest about it by ICTU ,the only one they ever organised to protect the welfare of low paid workers who were beinh exploited.as far as I remember one wonam  in particular was the subject of this protest,and she was awarded a large sum of money in compensation

Did she ever get it?Same with the Turkish Builders in Clondalkin They got Blackmail money and the sack .

[dalymount]

As far as im aware she did get it,but that is not the point .the fact that she was awarded it in the first place,is an admission of guilt on the part of irish ferries

[john m]

Read the EU services Directive and the ECJ Judgement .There is no legal requirement for employers to pay local rate to persons employed in another European Country but working in a different country from the one they are employed in .

[dalymount]

John there is a minimum rate of pay existent in ALL member states of the EU.in the case I mentioned,this rate was nether being ovserved,or honoured by the employer irish ferries.

[john m]

John there is a minimum rate of pay existent in ALL member states of the EU.in the case I mentioned,this rate was nether being ovserved,or honoured by the employer irish ferries.

Why would it be observed the Workers were employed in a country outside of the EU The ECJ ruled in favour of Irish Ferries .

[dalymount]

They did not rule in favour of Irish ferries,they ruled in favour of the Filipino lady who was duly awarded a large sum of money

[john m]

They did not rule in favour of Irish ferries,they ruled in favour of the Filipino lady who was duly awarded a large sum of money

Check it out ECJ ruled against the original ruling .