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[Rat Catcher]

I know there's a shortage in terms of predicted requirements but I haven't heard of anyone who needs one not getting it in Ireland or in the UK. The UK put some sort of consortium of manufacturers together and your man that redesigned the Hoover developed one over there so they'll probably get to grips with what they need... and we have planeloads of stuff coming from China which (subject to testing) could meet our requirements.

[Bob Shillin]

Someone told me, that a nurse told them, that ventilators are single person use, and are scrapped after each patient has recovered or otherwise.

[Rat Catcher]

That seems highly unlikely to me. The Mother in Law was on a home ventilator for years so I'm reasonably familiar with how those ones are set up. I can't see any good reason for throwing the machine away, the filters and tubes would obviously be replaced.

[Rat Catcher]

Devil what I find amazing is the early School leaver Harris was an Inept useless Minister in Fact it was the threat of a No confidence vote in him triggered a General election but now he is the Go 2 Guy .Look at the figures for empty hospital beds as the Staff are all engaged in Covid Work .So obviously there is a huge lack of staff to cater for other patients .I suppose operating theatres are closed down .be interesting to see the sums did covid 19 cost the HSE more money or did they actually save money by keeping those beds empty .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-5zEb1oS9A

[Belker]

Devil what I find amazing is the early School leaver Harris was an Inept useless Minister in Fact it was the threat of a No confidence vote in him triggered a General election but now he is the Go 2 Guy .Look at the figures for empty hospital beds as the Staff are all engaged in Covid Work .So obviously there is a huge lack of staff to cater for other patients .I suppose operating theatres are closed down .be interesting to see the sums did covid 19 cost the HSE more money or did they actually save money by keeping those beds empty .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-5zEb1oS9A

 

[TheDevilHimself]

Devil what I find amazing is the early School leaver Harris was an Inept useless Minister in Fact it was the threat of a No confidence vote in him triggered a General election but now he is the Go 2 Guy .Look at the figures for empty hospital beds as the Staff are all engaged in Covid Work .So obviously there is a huge lack of staff to cater for other patients .I suppose operating theatres are closed down .be interesting to see the sums did covid 19 cost the HSE more money or did they actually save money by keeping those beds empty .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-5zEb1oS9A

It's a crazy world we live in   

[U Wha]

Well I'd  willingly sarafice all what John said to see the death of radio , and app dispatchers it's then, and only then will you believe they were never needed in the first place

DM just to clarify, most dispatchers were orginally established to meet the demand for cab services due to a severe lack of taxis. The taxi plate industry in Dublin at the time was a closed shop. It refused to enter negotiations on the issuing of new plates that were needed to meet the demands of a growing city and population.

That shortsightedness, fear of change and/or greed gave the dispatchers a foothold with the use of hackneys, where there was no restrictions on issuing new plates.

In addition dispatch or app work is not work stolen from taxis. It is private hire work which traditonally was covered by hackneys. So if one wanted to be bitchy about it taxi drivers covering dispatcher or app work is in fact taking the private hire work from hackneys.

Your idea that passengers dont need dispatchers might have some merit in a city centre. Much like black cabs and yellow cabs in London and New York.

These cities have thriving private hire dispatch industries. That for most part dont mix.

I also aree with what John M said about the demand in the suburbs where there is not a constant flow of taxis going past and almost no ranks to speak of.

I might suggest that we are all 'SPSV' drivers that choose to drive a particular type of licenced vehicle as in limousine, hackney or taxi. So none of us are really taxi drivers.

[dalymount]

U Wha explain this to me then. Why do taxi drivers act as though they were employees of these companies, rather then self employed drivers.. why do they permit these companies to offer discounts to the public on their behalf. Why do they agree to adhere rules instructingthem what to wear, what to charge, and worst allowing themselves to be chastised like school children in they step out of line. I have never in my life seen anything like it. And I STILL say these gangsters are not needed in the industry. Like you said in your first line Dublin might have suffered from a lack of taxis years ago pre dereg, but now there is more fukin taxis then there are people . Every second car on the road is a taxi, and the NTA want another 1600 probably because their was bent by the very scumbags you seek to defend

[U Wha]

I get your point that self employed drivers are actually the dispatchers customer. The passengers are the drivers customers.

However Like I said the dispatchers/Apps meet a particular demand. People tend to make the least effort possible, as in calling a dispatcher or pressing a buttons on an app while sitting in comfort until the taxi arrives. So the dispatchers and apps are here to stay.

Your ideological and puritanical mindset about taxis being taxis and that drivers should only operate by way of a hail or off a rank is fine and you are entitled to that belief. Taxis dont have to work with dispatchers or apps but most choose to and remember when they do they are taking private hire work not street or rank work.

Also from an economical and business point of view you must meet the customers needs. Passengers 'want' the convenience of the dispatchers or apps. Nothing we can do about that.

As for drivers accepting discounts and 'rules' from the apps they are prepared to accept that in exchange for the perception of consistency of work from the dispatchers and apps. Ideally drives would show
 solidarity and negotiate with one voice. They had that once pre dereg and look at what happened as a result. Also as you point out yourself spsv drivers are not employees so a true union mentality is hard to foster. It would be like shop keepers uniting against wholesalers, it wouldnt really work as they are competitors and are self interested. It is the same for spsv drivers.

[john m]

Two great posts u Wha  .Absolutely to the point .

[dalymount]

I totally respect your point of view, but I will NEVER  accept that dispatchers are vital to the industry.

One major reason alone is, the fact that taxis can operate without them, but they cannot operate without taxis, and inspite of that fact, taxi drivers have over power , and control of THEIR industry, to these would be employers.

As far as I'm concerned, the only function of a taxi dispatch firm is to provide work to the drivers who pay them to do so.

How dare they tell drivers what to charge, what to wear, and this is the one I can NEVER get my head around.

Drivers are paying them to provide  work right ,?
I a particular job arises, and the driver doesn't fancy it , (say ) it's haevly discounted, these people actually DISCIPLINE that driver for giving back that job.how dare they do that.

There are two other points I'd make.do you deny that there is constantly work going out the back door to base controllers cronies ?

Point two is the bully boy tactics employed by some of the drivers who work with these companies, to protect the areas they work particularly hotel pickups .I have withness these tactics being used against an independent driver who dared to pick up at a hotel by the drivers of a certain swords based company who continuesly camp illegally in the car parks of a lot of Dublin hotels.there is loads more but what's the point.the NTA enforcement have been aware of it for years ,but will do FA about it

[Theoneandonly]

That seems highly unlikely to me. The Mother in Law was on a home ventilator for years so I'm reasonably familiar with how those ones are set up. I can't see any good reason for throwing the machine away, the filters and tubes would obviously be replaced.

If used at home it was more likely a bipap machine which uses a mask rather than a ventilator which require intubation, either way only the tubing/mask needs to be replaced for new patients, thankfully is has been shown corona virus does not survive standard sterilization procedures

[silverbullet]

That seems highly unlikely to me. The Mother in Law was on a home ventilator for years so I'm reasonably familiar with how those ones are set up. I can't see any good reason for throwing the machine away, the filters and tubes would obviously be replaced.

If used at home it was more likely a bipap machine which uses a mask rather than a ventilator which require intubation, either way only the tubing/mask needs to be replaced for new patients, thankfully is has been shown corona virus does not survive standard sterilization procedures

I agree. My Mam had a nebulizer which worked in that way.
A hospital ventilator requires induced coma for intubation.

[Rat Catcher]

It was tubes the mother in laws one had. I think they went up her nose... still have some (sterile packed), great for bleeding brakes. I remember an acquaintance was kipping on the couch one night... over breakfast he says what's that fucking machine that's making the racket in the hall... Ms breathing machine, says I... thank fuck I didn't unplug her, says he, you shoulda told me before you went to bed 'cos I kinda thought it was some sort of air puffier for your OCD.

[Belker]

Two great posts u Wha  .Absolutely to the point .

Totally accurate, to the point, totally agree.