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« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2020, 01:11:47 am »
Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world

Is that you johnny  ???
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« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2020, 01:16:59 am »
Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world

Yuv a good point about Sweden charmer ....they appear to have roughly the same ammount of cases and deaths as us ....at the moment but they have twice our population so I wonder how they will explain that .....
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« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2020, 01:22:07 am »
Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world

Yuv a good point about Sweden charmer ....they appear to have roughly the same ammount of cases and deaths as us ....at the moment but they have twice our population so I wonder how they will explain that .....
we appear to have the same amount of cases and deaths  as they do but yet we have only half their population . I wonder how we will explain that ?
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« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2020, 01:27:43 am »
Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world

Yuv a good point about Sweden charmer ....they appear to have roughly the same ammount of cases and deaths as us ....at the moment but they have twice our population so I wonder how they will explain that .....
They won't. ABBA has been banned off RTE in case it might lead to Paddy hearing the word Sweden. This is a bleedin scam and takedown. How many weeks more of this madness before you think things take a turn for the irreparable. Start thinking of Varadkar as pure evil personified/lying khunt and you're well on your way to waking to fk up

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« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2020, 01:30:29 am »
Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world

Yuv a good point about Sweden charmer ....they appear to have roughly the same ammount of cases and deaths as us ....at the moment but they have twice our population so I wonder how they will explain that .....
we appear to have the same amount of cases and deaths  as they do but yet we have only half their population . I wonder how we will explain that ?
They won't explain because they're not being asked by a corrupt and complicit media. And the only people asking about it, Waters and O Doherty are being painted as social pariahs with dumbfk Paddy wanting them arrested. We deserve what we get.

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« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2020, 09:51:56 am »
How are you finding business at the moment, CSD.... and what are you learning from clients i.e. are the journeys largely covered within essential/permitted travel guidelines?

We’ll have a lot to learn from many countries around the world as time progresses. That will be a job for the civil service, the unelected bureaucrats in Europe and the WHO. In the meantime we cannot underestimate the importance of following the advice of our local Govt. They and their experts know how quickly or slowly we can afford to allow the virus spread, most particularly in accordance with HSE front line capacity.

New Zealand is probably the most interesting case in terms of slowing the spread. In fact its stringent restrictions on movement and borders have come as close as is probably reasonably possible to stopping rather than slowing the spread. With a similar population to Ireland it has only recorded 1,129 cases and 19 deaths.

Sweden might not seem like a great example with 20,302 cases and 2,462 deaths compared to Ireland’s 20,253 cases and 1,190 deaths. However, as noted above, its policy has been focussed on a faster spread with a lot of eggs in the community immunity basket which may become increasingly relevant going forward. It has issued most of the social distancing advice as us i.e. work from home where possible, only travel where essential, etc and it has placed a ban on gatherings of 50 or more people. Obviously, with significantly higher alcohol prices than us it doesn’t share our pub/cafe culture and didn’t opt to close those businesses.

So, what can we learn from Sweden? Sweden’s tax to GDP ratio is c.44% compared to our 22%. Higher taxation facilitates greater redistribution of wealth, increased pension provision and greater investment in public services like education and healthcare. All of those factors could contribute to being better prepared going forward.

If we look at Denmark we find a country with a similar tax to GDP ratio as Sweden in the same geographical area and similar cultural traits. Denmark’s population is c.55% of that of Sweden and it has experienced 9,008 coronavirus cases with 443 deaths, both figures obviously significantly lower on a per capita basis. The fact that Denmark implemented more stringent “lockdown” measures than Sweden suggests that such measures do work, at least as a method of rationing demands for healthcare and funeral services.

The case for significantly higher taxation is probably clear at this stage but who knows what else we might learn. What would the fake media say if doctors start prescribing Dettol and Domestos transfusions become commonplace on our hospital wards?
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« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2020, 10:42:47 am »
we appear to have the same amount of cases and deaths  as they do but yet we have only half their population . I wonder how we will explain that ?

Appearances can de deceptive. We have a similar number of cases but our death rate is significantly lower. We have 1,190 deaths and they have 2,462. If we do the math we find that their death rate is more than double ours and that our death rate is less than half of theirs. Hardly similar?

Denmark, on the other hand, has experienced 443 deaths. Doing the math again, that is less than half of our death rate and our death rate is more than double that rate. Factor in the fact that Denmark has a higher population than us (c. one million higher) and the math becomes more interesting. Delving a bit deeper into our calculators we find that Denmark has a tax to GDP ratio of 45% compared to our 22%. The math here tells us that our tax to GDP ratio is less than half of that in Denmark or Sweden (c.44%) and that the Danes and the Swedes tax to GDP ratios are more than double ours.

All of that boring stuff that underlies the impression you got from appearances. It seems to suggest that more stringent "lockdown" restrictions could have more than halved the death rate in Sweden, brining it significantly below our death rate.
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« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2020, 11:09:08 am »
Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world
I don't know where to start, what complete and utter claptrap ....
Try this for starters: Sweden doing ok? my hole they are

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-29/is-sweden-s-lack-of-coronavirus-lockdown-a-fatal-mistake/

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« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2020, 11:16:55 am »
Feckin hell. She's the only one standing up to Police State tactics and Paddy rounds on the resistance. Yiz'll get what you deserve. How long more will you stay under house arrest before you all realise you've been conned. The laws that have been introduced are draconian. Unnecessary and hopefully unconstutional. There's no lockdown in Sweden and they've done just as well as us. Are you going to wait till your queing up at soup kitchens before you realise to fk what's going on here. Varadkar and the rest of his quisling government want to take us over the cliff economically. They're part of a globalist death cult that wants to turn us into China. If Trump goes down the lights go out on the world
I don't know where to start, what complete and utter claptrap ....
Try this for starters: Sweden doing ok? my hole they are

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-29/is-sweden-s-lack-of-coronavirus-lockdown-a-fatal-mistake/

Deaths  1M population
Sweden 244
Ireland  241
USA      186
UK        384


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« Reply #54 on: April 30, 2020, 11:20:34 am »
Yeeee HAWWWWW How deee partners .Look at Texas USA big population low death rate its simple all you need is to corrupt how you count the dead .You cannot compare any two countries as every country has a different way of counting the Casualties ,Britain only counts HOSPITAL deaths they were not including people who died outside hospitals as they said they had not be diagnosed and if they were they would of been hospitalized .Big Dommo is using the Motor Mart index the price of used cars will come down as widows sell their dead husbands pride and joy .Probably a more accurate measure .

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« Reply #55 on: April 30, 2020, 11:21:21 am »
Deaths  1M population
Sweden 244
Ireland  241
USA      186
UK        384



Denmark 76 (Seventy-Six)
New Zealand 4 (Four)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
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« Reply #56 on: April 30, 2020, 11:37:06 am »
Strange as it may seem you are partially right to some - however insignificant - extent, erm. Comparisons across geographical areas will become relevant or more relevant when officials and statisticians can account for such discrepancies.

However, there's nothing surprising in a lot of what we are seeing, setting New Zealand aside as an exceptional case. It's clear that those with higher tax to GDP ratios have more options when it comes to controlling the rate of spread. With our low ratio we were caught flat footed. Minister Harris had to sprint from hospital to hospital with eviction notices in hand and we had to slow the spread twice so far. To avoid that going forward we will (or would) require very significant increases in taxation. Obviously, we should be looking at Denmark's conservatively controlled spread and (in the fullness of time) Sweden's community immunity gamble. Either way we should (but won't) aim for a grown up economy with a tax to GDP ratio in excess of 40%.
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« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2020, 11:59:31 am »
Where do you get 22% for Irish tax rate .We operate a much wider tax taking apparatus than basic income tax we have one of the highest tax rates on Fuel,Alcohol ,VRT,VAT in the world our notional tax  is in excess of 50% .The problem is where our tax is wasted .I see figures for the Toll Bridges and Toll roads are so low that the Government Income Guarentee Scheme has been triggered and tens of millions of Euro will be handed over to PPPs partners .Dublin Bus and Irish Rail are recieving tens of millions in subsidies to run ghost busses as the contract says if they do not provide the service they will be fined on a daily rate .700 million in folding notes going to be paid over to private hospitals for beds that wont be used .I even hear from one of my sources the Government are still paying a well known hotel full rates to retain 15 rooms that they always have available for visiting diplomats even though the hotel is closed and has limited staff .

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« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2020, 12:04:29 pm »
OECD - latest published figure. Could be lower now given the downward trend.

https://www.oecd.org/tax/revenue-statistics-ireland.pdf

In 2018, Ireland had a tax-to-GDP ratio of 22.3% compared with the OECD average of 34.3%. ... The corresponding figure for the OECD average was a slight increase of 0.1 percentage point from 34.2% to 34.3% over the same period. The tax-to-GDP ratio in Ireland has decreased from 30.8% in 2000 to 22.3% in 2018.
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« Reply #59 on: April 30, 2020, 12:11:02 pm »
Whats the tax rate for GNP .

 


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