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Irish lives matter
« on: June 23, 2020, 03:08:38 pm »
Daniel Wissert added a new photo to the album Irish Lives Matter too (1625) — in Ireland (country).
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The Irish slave trade began when 30,000 Irish prisoners were sold as slaves to the New World. The King James I Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.
Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.
From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.
During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.
Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle.
As an example, the African slave trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African slaves, not tainted with the stain of the hated Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.
African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (50 Sterling). Irish slaves came cheap (no more than 5 Sterling). If a planter whipped or branded or beat an Irish slave to death, it was never a crime. A death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than killing a more expensive African. The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master’s free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women (in many cases, girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company.
England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish slaves for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.
There is little question that the Irish experienced the horrors of slavery as much (if not more in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is, also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry. In 1839, Britain finally decided on its own to end its participation in Satan’s highway to hell and stopped transporting slaves. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded THIS chapter of nightmarish Irish misery.
But, if anyone, black or white, believes that slavery was only an African experience, then they’ve got it completely wrong.
Irish slavery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2020, 03:13:11 pm »
listen to these characters.
like listening to ken talkin.
The Black Irish of Montserrat Irish accents in the Caribbean

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2020, 03:43:02 pm »
listen to these characters.
like listening to ken talkin.
The Black Irish of Montserrat Irish accents in the Caribbean

A lot have red hair too, not just redheads! 8)

This would explain the predilection of Irish guys wearing cutaway shorts:

https://www.historyireland.com/uncategorized/the-redlegs-of-barbados/

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2020, 03:55:49 pm »
A beautiful woman on an airplane, headed to a nymphomaniac convention.

A man boards an airplane and takes his seat. As he settles in, he glances up and sees the most beautiful woman boarding the plane. He soon realizes that she is headed straight toward his seat. A wave of nervous anticipation washes over him. Low and behold, she takes the seat right beside his. Anxious to strike up a conversation, he blurts out, "So where are you flying to today?"

She turns and smiles and says, "To the annual Nymphomaniac Convention in Chicago."

Whoa! He swallows hard and is instantly CRAZED with excitement. Here's the most gorgeous woman he's ever seen, sitting right next to him, and she's going to a meeting of nymphomaniacs! Struggling to maintain his outward cool, he calmly asks, "And what's your role at this convention?"

She flips her long hair back, turns to him, looks into his eyes, and says, "Well, I try to debunk some of the popular myths about sexuality."

Really", he says, swallowing hard, again. "And what myths are those?"

She explains: "Well, one popular myth is that Nigerian men are the most well-endowed, when, in fact, it is the Native American who is most likely to possess this trait. Another popular myth is that Frenchmen are the best lovers, when actually the Irish who romance women best, on average."

Very interesting" the man responds.

Suddenly, the woman becomes very embarrassed, and blushes. "I'm sorry," she says, "I feel so awkward discussing this with you, and I don't even know your name."

The man extends his hand and replies, "Tonto.......... Tonto Murphy."
He who fears he will suffer, already suffers because he fears.

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2020, 04:07:52 pm »
I see somebody flew a plane across the burnley stadium last night with a big banner saying white lives matter to.it caused a bit of trouble apperently.

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2020, 04:08:25 pm »
laffin.
I love when Trigger comments on Del and Rodney's Batman and Robin costumes.
"You're alright. But Del don't look nothin' like Tonto."

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2020, 04:23:30 pm »
The trigger one I liked best was,when they were having a seance upstairs in the pub.auld Elsie pratrige the medium is describing this person coming through.long blond hair lots of jewellery,etc del thinks its his mother ,trigger buts in jimmy savile ?

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2020, 04:30:50 pm »
I see somebody flew a plane across the burnley stadium last night with a big banner saying white lives matter to.it caused a bit of trouble apperently.
Why in God's name should this cause trouble, FFS if the blacks are allowed get this message across , why cant the whites ?

As I said before the message should be :

ALL LIVES MATTER
He who fears he will suffer, already suffers because he fears.

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2020, 04:38:50 pm »
I totally agree STC but apperently it greatly upset the burnley captain,and some others

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2020, 04:52:02 pm »
Because white people are not singled out by police
White people do not suffer discrimination
White people do not suffer from racism

Saying "White lives matter" is saying we are all treated the same, that isn't true.
Saying "Black lives matter" is saying we should all be treated the same.

I realise I may as well be talking to the wall but fuck it!

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2020, 05:14:29 pm »
white people suffer discrimination from other white people all the time.

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2020, 05:58:28 pm »
listen to these characters.
like listening to ken talkin.
The Black Irish of Montserrat Irish accents in the Caribbean
Can't be bothered looking it up, but I think I remember a sex scandal there.
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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2020, 06:53:57 pm »
Because white people are not singled out by police
White people do not suffer discrimination
White people do not suffer from racism

Saying "White lives matter" is saying we are all treated the same, that isn't true.
Saying "Black lives matter" is saying we should all be treated the same.

I realise I may as well be talking to the wall but fuck it!
You really need to travel.

As for talking to the wall, take a trip to Jerusalem.

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Re: Irish lives matter
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2020, 09:17:32 pm »
listen to these characters.
like listening to ken talkin.
The Black Irish of Montserrat Irish accents in the Caribbean
Can't be bothered looking it up, but I think I remember a sex scandal there.


Pitcairn island.

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