Advice Please

[Jonno]

It was one line on the last page of one of the newsletters.  Blink and you'll miss it.  It didn't say 'you must'... it was more of a 'you should'...

I'm in the same boat as you (I think).  I had one more DD payment on my insurance so I thought why bother?  And I have elderly parents so the taxi would have got me through the Garda checkpoints if it came to it.  The roofsign is in the boot since mid-March but my taxi was 'official' all that time.  I can print off receipts from my tamper-proof meter proving that I didn't take a fare since Mid-March.

It's all a bit watery, them putting something at the bottom of a newsletter that not every driver probably reads, or receives, or gives two shits about. So I would not imagine there'd be any legality behind that stuff...

So anyway you didn't renew your insurance? I did, in July. Actually it would be fairer to say I didn't tell my friendly broker not to renew it. As you know it is standard procedure that they will automatically renew unless you specify otherwise.
In short, since I ceased working in mid march, I remained fully (taxi) insured, didn't return no daisies to nobody, applied for and received the pup and as far as I can see that's the way it was meant to be done.

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[Justin Time]

Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.

There's no reactivation fee.

Do yor NCT then you have a three month window in which to decide what to do.

Youre throwing a spanner in the works now

How have I got 3 mths to decide? when my licence is up mid Aug.
Some on here said you will have to pay 500 if u let it lapse!

[Justin Time]

It was one line on the last page of one of the newsletters.  Blink and you'll miss it.  It didn't say 'you must'... it was more of a 'you should'...

I'm in the same boat as you (I think).  I had one more DD payment on my insurance so I thought why bother?  And I have elderly parents so the taxi would have got me through the Garda checkpoints if it came to it.  The roofsign is in the boot since mid-March but my taxi was 'official' all that time.  I can print off receipts from my tamper-proof meter proving that I didn't take a fare since Mid-March.

It's all a bit watery, them putting something at the bottom of a newsletter that not every driver probably reads, or receives, or gives two shits about. So I would not imagine there'd be any legality behind that stuff...

So anyway you didn't renew your insurance? I did, in July. Actually it would be fairer to say I didn't tell my friendly broker not to renew it. As you know it is standard procedure that they will automatically renew unless you specify otherwise.
In short, since I ceased working in mid march, I remained fully (taxi) insured, didn't return no daisies to nobody, applied for and received the pup and as far as I can see that's the way it was meant to be done.

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I was a directive from the Whatchamacallit.

When I initially phoned my Insurance Co. last March about reducing my payments and getting the car onto domestic Insurance, they told me to contact the NTA.

So I called them and they said, you must return the green daisies,which I did.
 
Two weeks later I get an email from them saying, you should return the daisies AND your insurance cert!!

Phoned them about this, and told them I already sent in the daisies do you now want the Insurance Certs as well,(per your email ) I was told, "hold the line please".

She comes back and says you dont have to send in the cert. I asked her again was she sure, because I dont want any hassle when I go back to work to be told,you didnt return the cert so ,,,blah ,blah......

Anyhoo, she puts me on hold again, then comes back and  says "well, you dont have to send the cert in, but if it makes you more comfortable to do so,you can".

I mean For F**ks Sake!!!

Clueless!

[Jonno]

It was one line on the last page of one of the newsletters.  Blink and you'll miss it.  It didn't say 'you must'... it was more of a 'you should'...

I'm in the same boat as you (I think).  I had one more DD payment on my insurance so I thought why bother?  And I have elderly parents so the taxi would have got me through the Garda checkpoints if it came to it.  The roofsign is in the boot since mid-March but my taxi was 'official' all that time.  I can print off receipts from my tamper-proof meter proving that I didn't take a fare since Mid-March.

It's all a bit watery, them putting something at the bottom of a newsletter that not every driver probably reads, or receives, or gives two shits about. So I would not imagine there'd be any legality behind that stuff...

So anyway you didn't renew your insurance? I did, in July. Actually it would be fairer to say I didn't tell my friendly broker not to renew it. As you know it is standard procedure that they will automatically renew unless you specify otherwise.
In short, since I ceased working in mid march, I remained fully (taxi) insured, didn't return no daisies to nobody, applied for and received the pup and as far as I can see that's the way it was meant to be done.

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I was a directive from the Whatchamacallit.

When I initially phoned my Insurance Co. last March about reducing my payments and getting the car onto domestic Insurance, they told me to contact the NTA.

So I called them and they said, you must return the green daisies,which I did.
 
Two weeks later I get an email from them saying, you should return the daisies AND your insurance cert!!

Phoned them about this, and told them I already sent in the daisies do you now want the Insurance Certs as well,(per your email ) I was told, "hold the line please".

She comes back and says you dont have to send in the cert. I asked her again was she sure, because I dont want any hassle when I go back to work to be told,you didnt return the cert so ,,,blah ,blah......

Anyhoo, she puts me on hold again, then comes back and  says "well, you dont have to send the cert in, but if it makes you more comfortable to do so,you can".

I mean For F**ks Sake!!!

Clueless!

Yeah that wouldn't fill you with confidence in their wider competencies.
Was it worth your while going to domestic use? I didn't bother me hole because back in march the ins. Co. said the fuckin door stickers n'all would have to come off!

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[dalymount]

I was told the week before last that mine was restored and that was reflected within the online register. Then I got an email saying I had to have stickers that weren't taken off put back on and produce some sort of undefined document indicating that insurance has been reinstated. I rang the halfwitted morons - call answered in 3 mins 42 seconds thanks to Watty keeping the riff raff at bay - today and they said the email applies so I have to follow that procedure and someone will ring back "in the next few days" to go through the incorrect advice I was given after listening back to the relevant call.

I rang Axa and they're totally confused - in fact their taxi personnel are engaged in a meeting to ascertain what, if anything, they can do about the current mess - i.e. men looking for taxi insurance with no intention of operating taxi services - as I type.

well I know a few who NEVER sent back their dasies,at all and avoided all this shite

Was there some sort of dictate issued to drivers at the beginning of all this saying we had to return daisies or we were still considered as working, therefore not entitled to claim pup? Cos neither I, nor anyone I know got any communication from anyone in that regard.

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no there was nothing of that nature issued to drivers.what was relayed to drivers was,if you were going to reduce your cover,then you must return your dasies,for the reason that you are no longer operating a taxi for the period od suspension,and therefore had no entitlement to keep them on the car.rat made this point numerous times

[Shallowhal]

Was there some sort of dictate issued to drivers at the beginning of all this saying we had to return daisies or we were still considered as working, therefore not entitled to claim pup? Cos neither I, nor anyone I know got any communication from anyone in that regard.

It all started with the insurance companies offering to reduce cover to SD&P with the caveat that you must contact the NTA to break the driver link....and that's were the NTA started playing stupid,once you reduced your insurance cover you were obliged to suspend your licence as it was no longer covered for SPSV use...once you suspended it the emails started asking licence holders to remove the tamperproofs and send them to Galway....along with the SPSV licence cert(no insurance cert was requested to be returned to anyone)at no time did AXA or the NTA request that door decals be removed...although i'm surprised that the latter didn't tbh.
There was never any mention of PUPayments being stopped if you didn't do any of the above.

[Theoneandonly]

Was there some sort of dictate issued to drivers at the beginning of all this saying we had to return daisies or we were still considered as working, therefore not entitled to claim pup? Cos neither I, nor anyone I know got any communication from anyone in that regard.

It all started with the insurance companies offering to reduce cover to SD&P with the caveat that you must contact the NTA to break the driver link....and that's were the NTA started playing stupid,once you reduced your insurance cover you were obliged to suspend your licence as it was no longer covered for SPSV use...once you suspended it the emails started asking licence holders to remove the tamperproofs and send them to Galway....along with the SPSV licence cert(no insurance cert was requested to be returned to anyone)at no time did AXA or the NTA request that door decals be removed...although i'm surprised that the latter didn't tbh.
There was never any mention of PUPayments being stopped if you didn't do any of the above.

Nothing to do with the covid payment, the NTA mentioned in one of it's leaflets that if you don't have taxi insurance you can't have a Taxi, therefore if you reduced your premium you must terminate your licence ... red tape bullshit that I  for one ignored

[Jonno]

Was there some sort of dictate issued to drivers at the beginning of all this saying we had to return daisies or we were still considered as working, therefore not entitled to claim pup? Cos neither I, nor anyone I know got any communication from anyone in that regard.

It all started with the insurance companies offering to reduce cover to SD&P with the caveat that you must contact the NTA to break the driver link....and that's were the NTA started playing stupid,once you reduced your insurance cover you were obliged to suspend your licence as it was no longer covered for SPSV use...once you suspended it the emails started asking licence holders to remove the tamperproofs and send them to Galway....along with the SPSV licence cert(no insurance cert was requested to be returned to anyone)at no time did AXA or the NTA request that door decals be removed...although i'm surprised that the latter didn't tbh.
There was never any mention of PUPayments being stopped if you didn't do any of the above.

I knew that alright. Somebody else alluded to that in an earlier comment. It spooked me for a second. There's too much shite around this. In typical fashion, as always, the taxi driver gets the most convoluted, shitty, tortuous treatment and hoops to jump through in order to just get what most others breeze over.

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[john m]

Have any of you considered .You signed on for the Covid Coin as Taxi drivers who could not Social distance in line with government best guessing . if you now lapse your licence are you in fact actually unemployed as you no longer are a licenced taxi driver .How many of you have full filled the other qualifying criteria of being available for other work ie have any of you registered with any agency or applied for any jobs .Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .

[Shallowhal]

Very true Jonno.....when you're obliged to carry a first aid kit that you're not trained to use,there's drivers out who can't even affix their D stickers the correct way on their roofsigns ffs.....let's not get started on stickers.....again!!

[Shallowhal]

Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .

There was a line added to the criteria since Leo spoke in the last couple of days.

"are genuinely seeking work"

[john m]

Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .

There was a line added to the criteria since Leo spoke in the last couple of days.

"are genuinely seeking work"

I have applied for about 40 jobs since lockdown through Jobs .ie and indeed .No great demand for Fat old men .

[Jonno]

Have any of you considered .You signed on for the Covid Coin as Taxi drivers who could not Social distance in line with government best guessing . if you now lapse your licence are you in fact actually unemployed as you no longer are a licenced taxi driver .How many of you have full filled the other qualifying criteria of being available for other work ie have any of you registered with any agency or applied for any jobs .Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .

The government narrative seems to be sneaking a bit away, since yesterday, from where it started out regarding conditions for claiming puppy.
From the beginning, I was under the impression that the 350 was to mitigate the damage done to ones trade until such a time as ones trade came back to a reasonable level as to keep one afloat, or until the period of pup ended (now pushed out till 2021).
I don't recall hearing any minister saying months ago that we were expected to be job seeking (notwithstanding the fact that a few hundred thousand others just lost their jobs)- as if we had given up our careers altogether! I've shed blood sweat and tears for years to get to this point in my life. I ain't going back to work for the man anymore. Been there done th.....
And if Leo or Heather mentions a fukkin Fas scheme at any point, so help me god I'll do time.


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[silverbullet]

Why are you doing a suitability test of you're not working.

Because my licence it up in mid August. If I don't get passed out I will lose my licence.

There's no reactivation fee.

Do yor NCT then you have a three month window in which to decide what to do.

Youre throwing a spanner in the works now

How have I got 3 mths to decide? when my licence is up mid Aug.
Some on here said you will have to pay 500 if u let it lapse!

I was told by phone that they're waiving the restoration/reactivation penalty as result of the Covid.
I have my NCT from June so have up till September to go through the LRA.
The licence is currently lapsed, but I'm not worried.

Still have the daisies on the car and the roof sign in the hall and getting the PUP.

[Shallowhal]

Think about it are you still meeting the criteria to claim the coin .

There was a line added to the criteria since Leo spoke in the last couple of days.

"are genuinely seeking work"

I have applied for about 40 jobs since lockdown through Jobs .ie and indeed .No great demand for Fat old men .

I applied for a couple locally but as of today i'm under the medical care of my GP for at least 6 weeks,so any heavy lifting or physically activity is out...should i be on disability?

But as Jonno says,i've invested in the last 20years driving a joe and through no fault of my own my biz has been fuked up but go and shovel shit from tomorrow...or else!!