Income subsidy

[mercenary for hire]

I think it's good that he gets to see this side of the busnesss John.After two or three years of earning a monkey a week after expenses for 80 hours he might see why many of us are all burned out.

At least VD has the enthusiasm to get the hours in.I won't be putting 10/15k back into this industry under the current circumstances.But I am optimistic for next year.

[Shallowhal]

But I am optimistic for next year.


Do tell about this new found optimism?

[mercenary for hire]

I'm always optimistic Hal.Things might get worse for a bit but eventually they'll open things back up we will have lost a few taxi drivers along the way.I still don't think there are anywhere near as many drivers as 2010.

At least this time we're getting paid to wait it out.

[dalymount]

Jeez MFH ,you dont there are as many drivers ? Every second car on the road is a fukin taxi from what I can see.THERE ARE STILL TO MANY FUKIN TAXIS.and that shower of cunts in the NTA looking for more,along with Kearns ,kelly and fukkin Ebbs

[mercenary for hire]

When you become a taxi driver all you see is other taxis.I can't remember the numbers but there definitely is not as many taxis compared to ten years ago.

Also we're more efficient because more of us are signed up to despatchers and apps.Not as many empty return runs and dead mileage compared to ten years ago.

The NTA would have all the statistics at their fingertips. They don't really care what the unions say IMO.

[Shallowhal]

All i'm looking for now is a year or two on the age limits for 10 yr old wanked out jammers!!

[Cool Boola]

horses 4 courses

[Jonno]

Im hearing but cannot confirm it yet .That income subsidies for self employed to return part time to their trade is being considered .You will be able to declare when you work and lose a bit of coin .It sounds complicated so they are also looking at you declare you are working restricted hours and they give you a % of your covid payment on top of what you earn ..Its only a discussion document at the moment .


Quote{However Fine Gael TD Jennifer Carroll MacNeill said  that the changes to the PUP reflect what people were earning prior to Covid-19 and this was being done in solidarity with workers.

She said that more nuanced payments are needed to keep the subsidy going for longer.

Ms Carroll MacNeill said that people getting the payments can do irregular work and maintain their PUP.

She said that the scheme has been extended until next April and the rates are expected to change again in February.

The Fine Gael TD said the payments cannot go on forever and while reducing them and graduating payments, the Government is also introducing stimulus measures for sectors including taxi drivers and the entertainment industry.}

Ah the increasingly popular word "nuanced". Has become the govt's weapon of choice in the more recent stages of the bubonic plague crisis.
It's a dangerous wee bastard, is that word. A wolf in sheep's clothing if you will. "Targeting and screwing" certain individuals would be more appropriate.

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[Jonno]

It's a good idea, although it'll be abused of course.

I want to go back working but I've no idea what I'm going back to.  Anytime I venture out (FN on, roofsign off), it looks dead.  Most of the other taxis I see are empty too. 

I'm getting a guaranteed €350/250 at the moment and it'd be a huge gamble to give that up forever because there's no going back (once you sign off, that's it).  It'd be nice to have a bit of a cushion for a few weeks.

It might all be moot though.  Level 3 is likely tomorrow and maybe level 4 after that.  We might be back in a lockdown by mid-Oct?

I think you can sign back on watty. I have a feeling I heard meehawl saying it the other day. Sure it wouldn't be fair if a fellow decided to stop his bluffing and went back out only to discover that he was making far less than 350, which I don't believe is the case, unless he's acting like a spoilt brat and insisting on only working 5 hours a day for 4 days. Needs must, and a genuine effort should be made by people to get out there. Imo.
Fair enough now that Dublin is level three there'll be feck all happening and a prolonged spell on the couch scratching the arse and sniffing the finger is all that can be done. 

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[mercenary for hire]

There's no moral obligation to get back behind the wheel.The government closed the economy down and damaged it possibly long term to save a few old people that probably would have died form the flu anyway.I'm not working 12+hours a day to be in the same position as I am now.Did it ten years ago when I had to and I definitely don't have to now.

When I eventually get stuck back in most in the road will be burned out but I'll be reasonably fresh.Taking me time.Fuk the taxi industry it will still be there when I'm ready.

[Shallowhal]

Very true MFH.....and all them driverless cars will probably be doin our jobs for us aswell...with a bit of luck!!

[mercenary for hire]

For me to get back on the road I'd need to spend a fair bit of money on repairs and pass my car out.Then insurance just to see if it might be busy.Not a chance.

[watty]

I think you can sign back on watty. I have a feeling I heard meehawl saying it the other day. Sure it wouldn't be fair if a fellow decided to stop his bluffing and went back out only to discover that he was making far less than 350, which I don't believe is the case, unless he's acting like a spoilt brat and insisting on only working 5 hours a day for 4 days. Needs must, and a genuine effort should be made by people to get out there. Imo.
Fair enough now that Dublin is level three there'll be feck all happening and a prolonged spell on the couch scratching the arse and sniffing the finger is all that can be done. 

I think you're right.  RC and I posted links on the first page of this thread.  The devil is in the detail though - no mention of the self-employed.

@ RC - you beat me to it.

Press release: Pandemic Unemployment Payment to remain open for new entrants (15 Sept)

- The Minister for Social Protection, Heather Humphreys, T.D., has today secured Government approval to keep the Pandemic Unemployment Payment (PUP) open to new applicants until the end of 2020.

- This means that anyone who loses their employment as a result of the pandemic after September 17th will be able to avail of the appropriate PUP rate.  It also means that anyone unfortunate enough to be laid off for a second time will be able to avail of PUP.

Interesting.  No mention of the self-employed.  And very generous to let people back on the PUP instead of the regular dole...

[Rat Catcher]

I think you can sign back on watty. I have a feeling I heard meehawl saying it the other day.

It was Dr. Leo who announced it. That Mehaul cunt couldn't give a fuck about the men on puppy dole. He wants to starve us to death while we sit on our backsides saving the wordeld.

Dr. Leo was great so he was.

[Jonno]

I think you can sign back on watty. I have a feeling I heard meehawl saying it the other day.

It was Dr. Leo who announced it. That Mehaul cunt couldn't give a fuck about the men on puppy dole. He wants to starve us to death while we sit on our backsides saving the wordeld.

Dr. Leo was great so he was.

Leo the lion is running the good ship Leinster House.

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