EV Grant 2021

[Rat Catcher]

In his 2021 Budget, and in recognition of the important role played by small public service vehicles (SPSV) in making public transport more sustainable, Minister Ryan committed €15m to assisting the SPSV industry in transitioning to fully electric and zero-emission capable wheelchair accessible vehicles. The means by which this money is being made available to the industry is the Electric SPSV (eSPSV) Grant Scheme 2021. The scheme is funded by the Department of Transport and administered by NTA.

Further information about the eSPSV Grant Scheme 2021, including how to apply, can be found here. https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi/forms-and-guides/

To view the Department of Transport’s press release in relation to launch of the scheme, visit: gov.ie – Launch of Electric SPSV Grant Scheme 2021 (www.gov.ie) https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2f0f5-launch-of-electric-spsv-grant-scheme-2021/

Guides:

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Information-Guide-for-eSPSV21-Grant-Scheme-2.pdf

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/eSPSV21-Grant-Letter-Terms-Conditions.pdf

[Rat Catcher]

Fair play to Minister Ryan. Minister Ryan is great so he is...

[Shallowhal]

Sleepy Joe Eamo!!

[taxi1990]

why is it just wheel chair taxis that have to be fully electric? what about the saloons?

[john m]

why is it just wheel chair taxis that have to be fully electric? what about the saloons?

Because they know no self respecting taxi driver would pony up to drive a WAT can you imagine the effect of pulling around a litf would have on the battery .This grant is a political window-dressing exercise .BUT as we pointed out a Corporate body (my Taxi )might take up the offer and put a fleet for rent on the road .Might even say they should be allowed inside any Corden to pick up or drop off invalids .WATCH THIS SPACE .

[silverbullet]

why is it just wheel chair taxis that have to be fully electric? what about the saloons?

At 2.1, I read that it's both vehicles.

The aim of the Scheme is to increase the uptake of fully electric SPSVs and zero-emission capable
wheelchair accessible SPSVs. ?

[taxi1990]

why is it just wheel chair taxis that have to be fully electric? what about the saloons?

Because they know no self respecting taxi driver would pony up to drive a WAT can you imagine the effect of pulling around a litf would have on the battery .This grant is a political window-dressing exercise .BUT as we pointed out a Corporate body (my Taxi )might take up the offer and put a fleet for rent on the road .Might even say they should be allowed inside any Corden to pick up or drop off invalids .WATCH THIS SPACE .

The only wheelchair taxi I see for sale in Ireland, can only do 200-300 km on a full charge. what use is that? you could work for only a couple of hours on a saturday night, then go home around 12

[taxi1990]

why is it just wheel chair taxis that have to be fully electric? what about the saloons?

At 2.1, I read that it's both vehicles.

The aim of the Scheme is to increase the uptake of fully electric SPSVs and zero-emission capable
wheelchair accessible SPSVs. ?

Taxis should be exempt from having to be electric as the batteries just aren't near good enough at the moment. If you could drive them as long as a diesel I would have no problem driving one but the distance you get with them is rubbish. I wonder how long we have until they force us to go electric? maybe we should be encouraged to go hybrid rather than fully electric.

[john m]

Its just Bolloxology .First there is a limited supply of EV and ELECTRICITY .After we build those Data Centers for Microsoft and Facebook that use as much power as Ballyfermot  we will be importing Electricity which will make it more expensive and running an EV will be as expensive as running a diesel over its lifetime when you include servicing and part renewal .

[Rat Catcher]

I wouldn't do 200 kilos on a full shift very often. The trouble is that's what it does when it's new in the box... what will it do a few years down the road?

[Rat Catcher]

Will saloon ESPSVs be available to new entrants?

[Shallowhal]

Will saloon ESPSVs be available to new entrants?

I think that's a big fat yes!!

4 Who can avail of the Scheme?
4.1 The Scheme is available nationwide to:
(a) persons (individuals or companies) applying for new SPSV licences; and
(b) existing SPSV licence holders who wish to upgrade their current vehicle with a
replacement EV,
subject, in each case, to a maximum of ten (10) successful Applications in the case of any
Applicant.
An Application may be rejected if the Applicant has had a prosecution or complaint (in respect
of SPSV operation) upheld against them within the 24 months preceding the application or such
is received or pending while the application is in progress.

[Rat Catcher]

That's not conclusive. New licences might be restricted to E/Part E WAVs in accordance with NTAs current temporary moratorium on the issue of saloon plates.

[U Wha]

Will saloon ESPSVs be available to new entrants?

thought I read existing licence holders somewhere but the guidance sheet says new applicants for wheelchair electric. I think the non Wav is for existing plate holders only.

I was in touch with a dealer who had one of the nissan NV200 electric wheelchairs advertised. He said at moment its almost a non runner getting a electric WAV conformity agreed and the costs are prohibitive €50 to €60k at the moment. Said manufacturers have no interest in committing what battery supplies they have to anything other than mass produced main stream EV's.

Wrong again.... anyone can apply for up to ten plates but existing plate holders retiring old vehicles will get a larger grant than new entrants.

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Information-Guide-for-eSPSV21-Grant-Scheme-2.pdf

[taxi1990]

Will saloon ESPSVs be available to new entrants?

thought I read existing licence holders somewhere but the guidance sheet says new applicants for wheelchair electric. I think the non Wav is for existing plate holders only.

I was in touch with a dealer who had one of the nissan NV200 electric wheelchairs advertised. He said at moment its almost a non runner getting a electric WAV conformity agreed and the costs are prohibitive €50 to €60k at the moment. Said manufacturers have no interest in committing what battery supplies they have to anything other than mass produced main stream EV's.

Wrong again.... anyone can apply for up to ten plates but existing plate holders retiring old vehicles will get a larger grant than new entrants.

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Information-Guide-for-eSPSV21-Grant-Scheme-2.pdf

Why is the dealer selling them if there is no market for them?