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Our friends in the North
« on: March 01, 2021, 04:35:09 pm »
MON, 01 MAR, 2021 - 16:07
REBECCA BLACK, PA
Northern Ireland’s Justice Minister Naomi Long has expressed concern after First Minister Arlene Foster met with representatives of loyalist paramilitaries.

Mrs Foster led a DUP delegation last week to meet with the the Loyalist Communities Council to discuss tensions around the Northern Ireland Protocol.

She previously defended the move, insisting it was important to give a voice to all sections of the loyalist and unionist community.

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Loyalist signs in Dungannon, County Tyrone opposing the Northern Ireland Protocol (Liam McBurney/PA)
Sinn Féin MLA Linda Dillon raised the matter in the Stormont Assembly during questions for the Justice Minister, describing it as “inappropriate”.

Ms Long expressed her concern, describing it as a matter for her as a minister “when all ministers in the Executive have signed up to tackling the paramilitarism programme”.

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“That programme requires us all to ensure that where we wish to engage with at-risk communities, where we wish to hear the voices of those who may be vulnerable to paramilitary influence, that we do so through the appropriate legal mechanisms, that we don’t give any credence or validity to members of paramilitary organisations, irrespective of the community from which they emerge,” she told MLAs.

“I do believe that by giving a platform to people who are still in prescribed organisations or who claim to be, I think that is a matter of concern and sends out a worrying message to those in many parts of our community who still live under the coercive control of those same paramilitary organisations.”

Ms Long added: “I would appeal to all members of this house… to actually do work with the Department of Justice and right across the community to ensure that no paramilitary organisations have any influence whatsoever in the business either of this House, or in the business of running our communities outside.”

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Re: Our friends in the North
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2021, 04:39:18 pm »
Fuck them. We have the border where we want it, thanks to Dr. Leo. Chucky our law.

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Re: Our friends in the North
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2021, 04:44:47 pm »
Thanks to Dr Leo and his Boris deal we are heading back to the 1970s .I wonder will they reopen Werbough Street and Gardner Street Dole offices .Babs Paisley brusking off his oul lads Umberella and dog collar .

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Re: Our friends in the North
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2021, 04:53:53 pm »
It mightn't be as bad as you think... but the socialist republic of our (forefathers') dreams was never going to be achieved without some bloodshed. Chucky our law.

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Re: Our friends in the North
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2021, 04:59:18 pm »
Ask Boeing ,Lockheed Martin there is big money in violence .

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Re: Our friends in the North
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2021, 05:21:15 pm »
To be fair, the loyalists seem to be taking the new border quite well... so far. However, it would be folly to expect them to fuck off back to Scotland with no resistance, some degree of violent struggle is inevitable. Chucky our law.
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2021, 05:25:29 pm »
The irony of that Scotsmen in Scotland want independence while The kin of Scotsmen in Ulster will fight not to be Independent or removed from the Union .Remember the forcast British troops in Britain shooting British Citizens .

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Re: Our friends in the North
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2021, 07:28:16 pm »
The irony of that Scotsmen in Scotland want independence while The kin of Scotsmen in Ulster will fight not to be Independent or removed from the Union .Remember the forcast British troops in Britain shooting British Citizens .
A bit like being ejected from the Orange lodge  by your mate and fighting to get back in.

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Re: Our friends in the North
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2021, 10:49:49 am »
When Babs Paisley stands up in Westminster and calls for the removal of the border in the Irish Sea and the reintroduction of a land border .He can point to how Germany has fucked aside the European Ideal of Free Movement when it suits them ......German health authorities on Sunday designated the Moselle region of eastern France as a “high risk” zone because of the prevalence of coronavirus variants, and said tougher border restrictions would be imposed beginning Tuesday.

Germany has already imposed severe restrictions at some border crossings with the Czech Republic and Austria, drawing complaints about Berlin’s departure from a European Council effort to coordinate such measures.

During a European Council video summit on Thursday, Chancellor Angela Merkel told other heads of state and government that Germany’s measures were necessary and she insisted that the tighter rules were not disrupting commerce. Other countries have disputed that assertion.

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2021, 06:57:26 pm »
BRITS JUST TOLD DR LEO TO STICK HIS BORIS DEAL UP HIS HAIRY HOLE ...


The British government has unilaterally said the grace period for post-Brexit supermarket agri-food movements from the rest of the UK to Northern Ireland "will continue" until October.

The move was announced in the House of Commons this morning by Northern Ireland Secretary Brandon Lewis.

He added that certification requirements will then be introduced in phases alongside the roll out of a digital assistance scheme.

Businesses in Northern Ireland have been pressing for an extension to avoid a cliff-edge plunge into extra bureaucracy linked to the Northern Ireland Protocol.

Mr Lewis said: "As part of the pragmatic and proportionate implementation of the Northern Ireland Protocol, the government is taking several temporary operational steps to avoid disruptive cliff edges as engagement with the EU continues through the Joint Committee.

"These recognise that appropriate time must be provided for businesses to implement new requirements, and support the effective flow of goods between Great Britain and Northern Ireland."

However, the move has been criticised by the Irish Government and the European Commission.

Taoiseach Micheál Martin said he was "disappointed" with the British government's "unilateral action".

He said: "Issues relating to the protocol should be resolved by the UK and EU working together, through the Joint Committee.

"We have worked continuously in support of efforts to find sensible means of implementing the Protocol that respond to challenges identified.

"We will continue to do so, but unilateral action undermines the trust necessary to reach agreement.

"I call on the British Government to engage urgently with the European Commission, and to work towards agreed outcomes."

The European Commission said the UK's unilateral action "amounts to a violation" of the provisions within the protocol and the "good faith" obligation under the Withdrawal Agreement.

Commission vice-president Maros Sefcovic will use a call with David Frost, the new co-chair of the EU-UK Joint Committee, to "inform him that the European Commission will respond to these developments in accordance with the legal means established by the Withdrawal Agreement and the Trade and Co-operation Agreement".

A European Commission statement said: "This is the second time that the UK Government is set to breach international law.

"This also constitutes a clear departure from the constructive approach that has prevailed up until now, thereby undermining both the work of the Joint Committee and the mutual trust necessary for solution-oriented co-operation."

It was "disappointing" the UK had taken the action without informing the EU, the commission said.


Checks on goods at Northern Ireland's Irish Sea ports were agreed between Northern Ireland and the EU, to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland and keep the region following the bloc's trade rules.

That has caused some disruption to Irish Sea trade and prompted a backlash from unionists who fear it threatens Northern Ireland's place in the UK internal market, with the DUP aiming to undermine the protocol.

Mr Lewis said: "For supermarkets and their suppliers, as part of the operational plan the UK committed to at the UK-EU Joint Committee on February 24, the current Scheme for Temporary Agri-food Movements to Northern Ireland (STAMNI) will continue until October 1.

"Certification requirements will then be introduced in phases alongside the rollout of the Digital Assistance Scheme."

He said further guidance will be provided later this week on parcel movements from Great Britain to Northern Ireland, to provide necessary additional time for traders beyond 1 April.

"Guidance will also be set out to help address practical problems on soil attached to the movement of plants, seeds, bulbs, vegetables and agricultural machinery," Mr Lewis said.

The first of the grace periods had been due to expire at the end of March. Supermarkets would have had to produce Export Health Certificates for all shipments of animal products.

Under the terms of the protocol, which governs the movement of goods in and out of the region post-Brexit, all non-prohibited agri-food goods arriving from GB require an EU export health certificate (EHC) declaring that they pose no risk.

They are a consequence of a Brexit deal that has resulted in Northern Ireland remaining in the EU single market for goods, while the rest of the UK has left that regulatory zone.

There are hundreds of different types of EHCs, with different forms for different products and some products having multiple certificate versions.

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A UK government spokesperson said: "We are committed to meeting our protocol obligations in a pragmatic and proportionate way, but there have been challenges that are having a direct, and often disproportionate, impact on lives and livelihoods, including an unacceptable disruption to the flow of critical goods.

"That is why, as part of our new operational plan for supermarkets and their suppliers, underpinned by the Digital Assistance Scheme to enable goods to be moved in accordance with the protocol in the most streamlined way possible, we will extend the existing arrangements to October to reflect the reality that it takes time to adapt and implement new requirements."

DUP Stormont Agriculture Minister, Gordon Lyons, sparked controversy on Friday night when he announced he had ordered officials to halt work on planned permanent facilities to carry out inspections on goods from Great Britain.

Rival politicians have accused Mr Lyons of stunt politics and have insisted he does not have the authority to act unilaterally on issues considered significant or controversial.

Sinn Féin, the SDLP and Alliance parties have made clear such decisions can only be taken by the Executive as a whole.


The Northern Ireland Retail Consortium welcomed the news.

"The retail industry welcomes the extension of the grace periods in both time and scope, even if it is unilaterally, to allow us to continue to give Northern Ireland households the choice and affordability they need.

"We now have short-term stability, one of our four key asks. But there is still much to be delivered," said chief executive Aodhán Connolly.

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Re: Our friends in the North
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2021, 09:57:19 am »
THEY DIDNT EVEN GIVE LEO A REACH AROUND AS THEY RIGHTLY FUCKED HIM AND HIS BORIS DEAL .(When does the shooting start )

Loyalist paramilitary organisations have told UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson they are withdrawing support for Northern Ireland’s historic peace agreement.

The outlawed groups said they were temporarily withdrawing their backing of the Belfast/Good Friday accord amid mounting concerns about the contentious Northern Ireland Protocol governing Irish Sea trade post-Brexit.

However, they stressed that unionist opposition to the protocol should remain “peaceful and democratic”.

The 1998 agreement that loyalist paramilitaries endorsed 23 years ago ended decades of violence and established devolved powersharing at Stormont.

UK ministers are facing a backlash from unionists who fear the post-Brexit protocol threatens Northern Ireland’s place in the UK internal market.

The DUP and other unionist parties are pushing for the protocol to be ditched, claiming it has driven an economic wedge between the region and Great Britain which undermines the union.


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A letter sent to Mr Johnson by an umbrella body representing the paramilitaries said their stance in respect of the Belfast Agreement would continue until the protocol was amended to ensure “unfettered access for goods, services, and citizens throughout the United Kingdom”.

It added: “If you or the EU is not prepared to honour the entirety of the agreement then you will be responsible for the permanent destruction of the agreement.”


           

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The development came as the UK Government took unilateral action on Wednesday to extend a grace period that has been limiting the volume of red tape associated with moving agri-food goods from GB into Northern Ireland.

The EU criticised the UK Government move to extend the exemption period, which was due to run out at the end of the month, until October, claiming it risked breaching the terms of the protocol.


Goods arriving into Northern Ireland from GB have been subjected to added processes and checks since the Brexit transition period ended on December 31.

That bureaucracy is set to intensify significantly when the grace period ends, as from that point supermarkets and other retailers will require EU export health certificates for agri-food products brought in from GB .

Taoiseach Micheál Martin has also accused the UK government of “undermining trust” over Northern Ireland’s EU special trade status guaranteed under Brexit.

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The Taoiseach expressed his dismay at the move. He said the ongoing problems should be worked on by the joint EU-UK joint committee set up to deal with them.

“We have worked continuously in support of efforts to find sensible means of implementing the Protocol that respond to challenges identified,” the Taoiseach said.

“We will continue to do so, but unilateral action undermines the trust necessary to reach agreement. I call on the British government to engage urgently with the European Commission, and to work towards agreed outcomes,” Mr Martin added.

Now, the letter to the Prime Minister was written by David Campbell, chairman of the Loyalist Communities Council. Mr Campbell has penned a similar letter to Irish premier Micheal Martin.

The LCC represents the Ulster Volunteer Force, Ulster Defence Association and Red Hand Commando, which were responsible for many deaths during 30 years of conflict.

The main loyalist and republican armed groups signed up to principles like commitment to non-violence during discussions which led to the signing of the Belfast Agreement in exchange for early release of prisoners.

The letter says: “We are concerned about the disruption to trade and commerce between Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom that is occurring, but our core objection is much more fundamental.”

It said during the Brexit negotiations the Government and the EU said it was paramount to protect the Belfast Agreement and its built-in safeguards for the two main communities in Northern Ireland.

The letter said the operation of the protocol “repeatedly breaches those objectives”.

Mr Campbell insisted the LCC leadership is determined that opposition to the protocol should be “peaceful and democratic”.

“However, please do not under-estimate the strength of feeling on this issue right across the unionist family,” he adds.

“The only time I can remember such unanimity of opposition was following the imposition of the Anglo-Irish Agreement in 1985.

“Accordingly, I have been instructed to advise you that the loyalist groupings are herewith withdrawing their support for the Belfast Agreement until our rights under the agreement are restored and the protocol is amended to ensure unfettered access for goods, services, and citizens throughout the United Kingdom.

“If you or the EU is not prepared to honour the entirety of the agreement then you will be responsible for the permanent destruction of the agreement.”

The protocol is designed to prevent the imposition of a hard border on the island of Ireland by keeping Northern Ireland following EU trade rules.

It has caused disruption to some goods travelling from the rest of the UK as suppliers have struggled to overcome extra red tape.

Police have noted growing discontent in unionist communities.

Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) Chief Constable Simon Byrne previously warned of a “febrile” atmosphere and urged people to step back from the brink of violence.

Inspection staff at ports were temporarily withdrawn from duties earlier this year in response to sinister graffiti, but they later resumed their work after police insisted there was no credible threat against them.

Last week, Stormont’s DUP Agriculture Minister Gordon Lyons stopped preparatory work on building permanent Irish Sea trade checks at the ports.

That move, the legality of which has been disputed by executive colleagues, did not impact ongoing checks, as those are happening at temporary port facilities.


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Re: Our friends in the North
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2021, 03:14:39 pm »
Excellent. I guess all their members released under the Agreement will be checking back into Her Majesty's Prison Service.

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2021, 12:46:47 am »
GOOD HARD BOLLOK KICKING FOR BORIS  when does the shooting start ?

US president Joe Biden is “unequivocal” in his support for the Belfast Agreement, the White House has said, following London’s surprise move to extend the grace period for post-Brexit checks on some goods entering Northern Ireland from Britain.

“It has been the bedrock of peace, stability and prosperity for all the people of Northern Ireland,” presidential spokeswoman Jen Psaki said of the agreement when asked by The Irish Times in Washington about the dispute over the operation of the protocol.

Under the protocol, checks should commence in April on some goods moving from Britain to Northern Ireland. However, in a unilateral move, the British government this week said it would extend the grace period until October, a decision that has escalated tensions between London, Brussels and Dublin.

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London does not expect the arrangements for the inspections to be completed by October. Instead, senior sources said the checks would be partially rather than fully operating by then. The British government believes that the construction of the posts needed for the checks – suspended by the DUP minister Gordon Lyons last weekend – should continue.

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Downing Street on Thursday defended the controversial decision, which prompted threats of legal action from Brussels, insisting it was not in breach of international law.

Prime minister Boris Johnson’s spokesman said the government remained committed to the protocol and that it had this week informed “at official level” the European Commission and the Irish Government of its move.

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The EU and Ireland were only told on Tuesday that the unilateral action was being considered for Wednesday. It is understood both strongly cautioned against proceeding in such a manner.

The Government is to seek an urgent meeting with the Friends of Ireland Group in the US Congress about London’s move. It was agreed at a meeting of the Cabinet’s Brexit subcommittee on Thursday that Minister for Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney would reach out to the influential bipartisan group on the issue.

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Ministers at the committee meeting, which is chaired by the Taoiseach, are understood to have expressed concerns that unionists were exaggerating the impact of the protocol on Northern Ireland.

 


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