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Legal bill this
« on: March 02, 2021, 11:12:05 am »
A High Court judge has dismissed the lead challenge over the calculated grades process adopted for the Leaving Certificate 2020 exam in response to the Covid-19 pandemic.

A core issue in the case was whether the Minister for Education’s direction to remove school historical data in the calculated grades process was unlawful.

In his judgment today, Mr Justice Charles Meenan ruled the decision was not unlawful, arbitrary, unfair or irrational.

The lead action was taken by Freddie Sherry, who was a 2020 Leaving Cert student at Belvedere College, Dublin, and was heard over some five weeks before it concluded early last month.

The judgment is likely to have implications for some 60 other actions brought over calculated grades, which have been adjourned to March 10th.

Mr Sherry, of Newtown, Celbridge, Co Kildare, brought his case against the Minister for Education and Skills and the State.

He claimed the direction by the Minister last August to remove school historical records in the calculated grades process resulted in him being unfairly downgraded by 55 points in his Leaving Cert.

He said he was “hugely disappointed” his teachers’ estimated CAO points total of 542 for him was reduced to 487 under the process. His first course choice was pharmacy in TCD.

                 

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He claimed the Minister’s direction unlawfully interfered in the calculated grades process overseen by an independent steering committee.

The Minister and State denied the claims and maintained there was no reason to believe Mr Sherry would be in an improved position if historical school data was included.

They said students in Belvedere College received on average higher scores in 2020 compared to the 2017-19 period and there was no basis for any assertion Mr Sherry would have been treated more favourably in another category of school.

They argued, as the calculated grades process has been completed and CAO offers issued, any attempt to reinstate school historical data would be inappropriate or disproportionate as it would cast doubt on the results of significant numbers of students and their entitlement to college places.


THE LEGAL BILL WILL BE MORE THAN A FEW YEARS WAGES .

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Re: Legal bill this
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2021, 12:23:39 pm »
A High Court judge has dismissed the lead challenge over the calculated grades process adopted for the Leaving Certificate 2020 exam in response to the Covid-19 pandemic.

A core issue in the case was whether the Minister for Education’s direction to remove school historical data in the calculated grades process was unlawful.

In his judgment today, Mr Justice Charles Meenan ruled the decision was not unlawful, arbitrary, unfair or irrational.

The lead action was taken by Freddie Sherry, who was a 2020 Leaving Cert student at Belvedere College, Dublin, and was heard over some five weeks before it concluded early last month.

The judgment is likely to have implications for some 60 other actions brought over calculated grades, which have been adjourned to March 10th.

Mr Sherry, of Newtown, Celbridge, Co Kildare, brought his case against the Minister for Education and Skills and the State.

He claimed the direction by the Minister last August to remove school historical records in the calculated grades process resulted in him being unfairly downgraded by 55 points in his Leaving Cert.

He said he was “hugely disappointed” his teachers’ estimated CAO points total of 542 for him was reduced to 487 under the process. His first course choice was pharmacy in TCD.

                 

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He claimed the Minister’s direction unlawfully interfered in the calculated grades process overseen by an independent steering committee.

The Minister and State denied the claims and maintained there was no reason to believe Mr Sherry would be in an improved position if historical school data was included.

They said students in Belvedere College received on average higher scores in 2020 compared to the 2017-19 period and there was no basis for any assertion Mr Sherry would have been treated more favourably in another category of school.

They argued, as the calculated grades process has been completed and CAO offers issued, any attempt to reinstate school historical data would be inappropriate or disproportionate as it would cast doubt on the results of significant numbers of students and their entitlement to college places.


THE LEGAL BILL WILL BE MORE THAN A FEW YEARS WAGES .
He can afford it if  he's Sherry  Fitzgerald  stock, and then some.

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Re: Legal bill this
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2021, 12:52:29 pm »
TUE, 02 MAR, 2021 - 12:43
ANN O’LOUGHLIN
An appeal by John Waters and Gemma O'Doherty against a refusal to permit them to challenge the constitutionality of laws introduced in response to the Covid-19 pandemic has been dismissed.

They had appealed the High Court’s refusal to permit them bring their challenge and its award of costs of that hearing against them.

In their judicial review proceedings against the State and the Minister for Health, with the Dáil, Seanad and Ceann Comhairle as notice parties, the duo had sought to have various legislative measures declared unconstitutional and flawed.

The three-judge Court of Appeal, comprised of the President of the Court of Appeal Mr Justice George Birmingham, Ms Justice John Edwards and Ms Justice Caroline Costello today dismissed all grounds of their appeal.

Mr Justice Birmingham said the approach taken by the High Court "was the correct one". He added that while the case was "controversial and tendentious" no serious legal issue that would justify the granting of permission had been raised.

The applicants, he said, claimed "to know better than the government and the Oireachtas" and they dismissed internal and international advice concerning the pandemic available to the Government.

Their proceedings, the judge said, failed to raise issues of substance. They had "chosen rhetoric over substance and fiction and distortion over fact" and failed to meet the threshold of establishing an arguable case, the judge concluded.

The decision was delivered electronically and none of the parties were present in the Four Courts complex when the judgment was handed down.

The appeal was opposed by the respondents and the notice parties.

Original case

Last year, Ms O'Doherty and Mr Waters sought to challenge legislation including the 2020 Health Preservation and Protection and Other Emergency Measures in the Public Interest Act; the 2020 Emergency Measures in the Public Interest Act Covid-19 Act and the 1947 Health Act (Affected Areas) Order.

     

They claimed the laws, and the manner in which they were enacted, are repugnant to several articles of the Constitution including concerning the rights to travel, bodily integrity and the family, and amounted to an “unprecedented suspension” of constitutional rights.

Last May, Mr Justice Charles Meenan refused to grant them leave and said their claims were not arguable.

They had not provided any expert evidence or facts to support their view the laws were disproportionate or unconstitutional.

The manner in which the Houses of the Oireachtas dealt with the laws, introduced by a caretaker government and voted on by an incoming Dáil and outgoing Seanad, was not something a court could interfere with, he said.

The laws are constitutionally permissible, he held.

The proceedings should have been brought via plenary hearing, involving hearing oral evidence, and not judicial review, he held.

John Waters and Gemma O'Doherty's submissions

In their submissions to the appeal court, Ms O’Doherty and Mr Waters argued the High Court's decision refusing them permission to bring their challenge against the laws was wrong and that they didn't get a fair hearing before the lower courts.

Mr Waters argued that the Court of Appeal should set aside a High Court judgement that was "deeply tainted." He said the challenge was brought against laws that were "made off the hoof".

Michael Collins SC, with Patrick McCann SC for the Minister and the State, said the applicants' appeal should be dismissed.

While this was an appeal against a refusal to grant leave, their issue was against a decision made by the government, based on medical and scientific advice, against the threat to public health and lives caused by the international pandemic.

Some of their submissions to their case were appalling and offensive, counsel said. Counsel said they have made many wild and general assertions, which he said were not supported by any reports or evidence.

Francis Kieran Bl for the notice parties said the appeal should be dismissed as their claim was non-judiciable, and nothing had been put before the court that would allow them "climb the high legal walls" required for their arguments to succeed.

Counsel added that some of the applicants’ submissions were "Bermuda Triangle stuff".


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Re: Legal bill this
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2021, 02:50:49 pm »
I'd love to bring a case against her for her annoying voice...and being an annoying cunt!!

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Re: Legal bill this
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2021, 02:53:49 pm »
I'd love to bring a case against her for her annoying voice...and being an annoying cunt!!


Her and Sineads Old Boyfriend are going to be bankrupted by this case .Judges laughed it out of Court chances are they will get hit with both sides Costs ...OUCH .

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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2021, 03:19:47 pm »
I'd love to bring a case against her for her annoying voice...and being an annoying cunt!!
She is quoted as saying " It's a loada bollocks M'lud"!! 8)

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Re: Legal bill this
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2021, 05:41:26 pm »
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The applicants, he said, claimed "to know better than the government and the Oireachtas"

The funny thing is this particular pair of spacers do actually believe they know better than Govt. Worse than that, they believe they're intelligent and popular, even when they suggest that "FF/FG appointed" counters allocated 93.26% of their votes to SF!
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