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April 29 2021 06:42 PM

Ireland is “stealing” tax revenues from other EU countries, a Nobel Prize-winning economist has said.

Joseph E. Stiglitz, a professor at New York’s Columbia University, repeated past accusations against the government, calling Ireland a ‘bad neighbour’.

“Much of the tax revenue that Ireland gets is a result of stealing tax revenue from its neighbours - from other members of the EU,” Mr Stiglitz told a webinar on Thursday.

He said there were “flaws” in Ireland’s “negative” tax regime.

“They take away a lot of revenue from the other countries, and they get a little revenue for themselves. It is not the kind of thing which good neighbours do to their neighbours, so I think, at one time or another, the EU would have had to address this issue anyway,” Mr Stiglitz told a virtual event organised by the German Friedrich Ebert Stiftung think tank.

Last week the minister for finance defended Ireland’s tax policy, saying the 12.5pc rate was “fair” and within the bounds of “healthy tax competition”.

Mr Stiglitz’s comments come as talks on a global minimum corporate tax rate heat up, with a deal expected by July or October.

And US plans to repatriate multinational profits and tax them at 21pc could make Ireland’s 12.5pc rate irrelevant, if they are agreed by Congress
                   

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Treasury secretary Janet Yellen has sent a similar proposal to the Organisation for Cooperation and Development (OECD), which is leading global corporate tax talks.

EU economy and tax commissioner Paolo Gentiloni said the American plan is “an important tool” to press for change at EU level.

“To be honest, we need, in Europe, also this kind of driver because we know the difficulties,” said Mr Gentiloni. “We have an unanimity rule on taxation and I am quite optimistic that this global boost will allow us also to overcome internal difficulties.”

“I think that the discussion will be an interesting one in the next weeks, but the American position is really changing the game.”

He said public opinion and increasing pressure by MEPs “could create new conditions to make progress in some files where we were not able to progress in the last five or 10 years”.

The European Parliament this week suggested removing national vetoes on tax, in light of an upcoming European Commission proposal on a digital levy.

It is one in a long line of MEP resolutions on taxation that are putting additional pressure on Ireland’s corporate tax regime. A resolution adopted by an overwhelming majority of MEPs earlier this year named Ireland on a list of international tax havens.

A strategy paper on business taxation, due to be published this week, has been delayed until next month.


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Re: Yizzer only the scum of the fucking earth says nice Nobel Winner
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2021, 10:54:34 pm »
He didnt say scum....Ya misread that...Paolo Gentiloni said the American plan is trying to use  “an important tool”or importing bigger tools but the Irish have too many big tools and the EU want Ireland to spread a fair share of them with the Germans....Get it right / :))next time
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2021, 11:07:35 pm »
Leo made us enemy number one when he tried to do a side deal with Boros and not give a fuck about the rest of the EU .Every cunt and his mother are going to be scrambling for tax dollars Joe Biden the so called Irish President of America is going to fuck up our thieving ways .

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2021, 11:40:38 pm »
We were allowed the tax scam since the early 90s. It was to be a ten-year deal with the E.U. The Micks argued that we needed something because of our peripherality...thirty years on! 8)

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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2021, 04:14:40 pm »
To be fair, it was Dr. Leo who moved the border to the Irish sea and got rid of Arlene Foster. Chucky our law.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2021, 04:50:13 pm »
Emm... Wernt  the irish responsible for paying back 40%
Of Europes Bank debt after the gfc I heard ........?
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/ireland-to-have-highest-debt-per-head-in-europe-this-year-1.4503652

We get further into debt and Spain and Italy and these former soviet dumps get billions off our pension fund an get our kids more and more into debt........ An rte Keep telling us how great the country is doin...... YOU irish are so dumb  ::sleep...
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2021, 05:16:15 pm »
If you are going to get into debt, doing so when interest rates are zero or negative is probably a good time to do it?
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2021, 06:39:10 pm »
If you are going to get into debt, doing so when interest rates are zero or negative is probably a good time to do it?

That wont last .The European Stability Mechanism is suspended at the moment but the ECB will have to stop buying national debt and the only country on the face of the earth that has enshrined the agreement into their constitution through the Stability Mechinism we voted for will be shafted  .I see Paggo failed to put in his docket for European Recovery funds on time so we will lose out on 200 million as he hasent been told by Microsoft,Apple or Google what his tax policy is yet .

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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2021, 07:04:32 pm »
Govts can take the long view.  Germany only finished paying off it's World War ONE debts in 2010!  There were several reasons why it took so long but neither debtor or creditor nations were in a rush for it because...  it's nice to be nice  :P
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2021, 10:01:54 am »
The European Commission will pressure Ireland to address “aggressive tax planning” in national plans for spending its chunk of the bloc’s €750 billion Covid-19 economic recovery funding, The Irish Times understands.

Ireland is due to get hundreds of millions of euro in grants and loans over the next three years as part of the stimulus plan, but must submit a plan for how it will spend the cash that must be signed off by the commission.

Member states must commit to using the money for investments that strengthen their economies for the future, particularly in digitalisation and green initiatives, in order to get the nod.

But the commission will also insist that governments agree to implement a longstanding list of recommended reforms, known as “country-specific recommendations”, for their spending plans to be signed off on and the cash released.

This would include measures to “close loopholes in their tax codes, modernise/digitalise tax administration, and promote a culture of compliance”, according to a commission document.

European economy commissioner Paolo Gentiloni has confirmed that tax reforms are on the commission’s wish list when it comes to Ireland’s national recovery plan, in a written answer provided to Sinn Féin MEP Chris MacManus seen by The Irish Times.

“It is important to strengthen the fight against tax avoidance and close loopholes that can lead to situations of double non-taxation,” Mr Gentiloni wrote.

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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2021, 10:29:03 am »
Id give that Mr. Gent ...a kick up his oli rofl
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2021, 10:54:18 am »
To be fair, it was Dr. Leo who moved the border to the Irish sea and got rid of Arlene Foster. Chucky our law.
I'm not with you Stephen on this one, the more I think and read about 'Chucky our Law' the less I want it. If the polling day ever comes then it will be a Yes that I put in the ballot box, but I hope never to see that ballot box because I know the trouble that it will cause regardless of the result.

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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2021, 11:03:57 am »
Id give that Mr. Gent ...a kick up his oli rofl

Mr Boola the penny is dropping Ireland have no friends left .We fucked with Brexit and the EU now is payback time .Leo thought getting a Backstop deal would win him votes in the General election ,it didnt but it has opened a can of worms in Ulster and Europe .The China Cough is the issue now but as I posted all along Brexit and tax will fuck us up .Our Scumbag tax cheating robbing government will have to face the Judge and the probation act is off the table .Paggo was late applying for the funding as he could not lay out our tax policy we lost 200 million in late fees .Paggo waiting on Google,Apple ,Intel,Facebook to tell him what to think .

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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2021, 11:15:16 am »
Just because someone won a Nobel prize (with the exception of peace keeping) does not rate them too highly in my book. Alfred Nobel's family started the many Nobel prize funds many years back to remember his legacy, Alfred was an 18th century Swedish inventor, engineer and chemist and he left a very wealthy estate behind him when he died in 1896. The one 'Great' invention that made him so wealthy was DYNAMITE !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Nobel

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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2021, 11:38:18 am »
Stiglitz is probably the only Socialist Economist to win the prize .When he says you are dirt it carries weight .When its in his New York Times Colum then American tax payers start asking questions .Trump called out the Irish Tax Haven and Irish American President Joe from Mayo will close it . Irish Taoiseachs thinking a Bowl of SHAMrock lets you rob yankee Dollars from the Yanks .

What we have been up to .Every Apple phone made in China delivered from china to different distributors all over the world is billed as being distributed from Ireland and is then liable for tax at minimum rate in Ireland and not in the country it was actually sold in .Same with our knowledge box all Apple profits are put through a company in Ireland .lets say Apple earn 1 million a year they pay Ireland 12% Corporation tax minus deductions in reality they pay less than 2% .Now their cash is tax paid and they can invest it anywhere in the world .They probably buy government bonds paying very low interest but then they put the value of those bonds as an asset on their balance sheet and that sends their share price up . The money never comes back to the US the US gets no tax on it .What is being proposed by Biden is that Apple ,Google and every other US company will have to pay the difference between the tax they have already paid in other countries and the US tax rate on earnings and the EU are saying that these companies must pay tax in the country they sell the service ,So if Facebook sell Renault 10 million worth of advertising in france then that income was earned in france so the French are entitled to the tax at their rate and Facebook cannot launder the money through their Irish office by sending out an Irish Reciept .

If these changes come in whats the advantage of having your HQ in Dublin where the cost of living is higher than Portugal or most other EU countries and dont mind that bollox Irish are well educated .The only Irish working in Google are the Cleaners or Security or canteen staff .

 


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